From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #418 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, May 26 1999 Volume 01 : Number 418 Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) RE: re:(mobility) stuff (mobility) Run On singles? Re: (mobility) animal products in alchohol(with"moby"in text ^_^) RE: (mobility) VEGANISM (OFF TOPIC _AGAIN_) (mobility) Re: not come with a bonus CD Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) (mobility) quick on play (mobility) The interview Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) (mobility) Desperately looking for Fonts Re: (mobility) quick on play Re: (mobility) Play and wanting MORE (mobility) season in hell RE: re:(mobility) stuff RE: (mobility) Re: not come with a bonus CD Re: (mobility) Play and wanting MORE....peace and understanding... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:01:02 EDT From: RBlumschei@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) Hello there, It has been a while since I've listened to that album. I agree that both versions are better than only the import. Especially the remade version of a track from the Voodoo Child album. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:08:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: RE: re:(mobility) stuff At 01:18 AM 5/25/99 -0600, you wrote: > Hmmm, ants have a religion? I'd be very interested to learn more >about this! > pickle > kitty@unm.edu > "If you let your spirit out, where would it go?" ..hi somebody else i know from the List, asked me this same above question... it supposes, that you could yo spirit let go YOUR-Self? or...from what? 'your spirit' is a contradictory phrase, cause if the spirit goes, you goes... ..so, it's not 'it' ...it's YOUR spirit, so where will You go... It's not something ELSE than me... in fact this question stamps on all Rules that Wittgenstein wrote down about Logic In fact, the question should be: If you go, where would you go? Implicizing that ppl would understand from this: after you died... But there are also meditation-techniques, which i described in my signature about listening into intuition and mayby yes maybe into meditation and clairvoyance.... that's all extension of spirit... my spirti has been all over the world, although I rarely move my ass who made that thing up anyway? since it was quoted... Oh ANTS, ANTS, sorry! So, if you asked: if you let your spirit extend beyond yourself, where would it go to? Then i would have said, at the moment to you... because i love writing about this subject, and i want everybody to know... Ants is my new discovery... just half a year ago or so, when Hollywood came with that stupid Movie (i didn't see it yet, but I want to!) i dont know what it's theoretically, but i thought a form of 1984 or so.... not good! Just in that same week i developped my theory that Ants are the crown of creation... (and not US) if not Viruses... but that's a different story... Ants are evolutionally speaking FAR FAR ahead of us... Just a few weeks ago the ants-family were even front-page news! The quality newspaper of this country wrote that an article in Science (not what you'd call gossip!) had stated that ants did Agriculture way, way about 2 million years ago! Or maybe even 2 million years before men even exists... they still do that, grow their own mushrooms, the point is, they use different ones at the same time... that is for being more resistant to diseases... and...have you ever heard of WAR in an ants-mountain? Yes,it's true...disabled ants get killed, ant a lot of females too (redundant) but no-one tells the others what to do! They just ACT, all these millions of millions of ants, in that mountain, as ONE organism that's their religion. They are ONE... Isn't that what ALL religions of menkind tell you, that if you give up YOUR-self, for the WHOLE, then everything would be okay, you'd have no more selfish Ego, you'd need no more Freud, or other stuff that makes you even more sick... and best of all you don't need no Catholics! The BEST thing of ants, they dont wear crosses! Compared to ants, humans are pathetic Okay, some asshole Lamarck or so, invented genetic zoologism, + another word i cant find.... sort of nomenclatura of the animal kingdom, and Mammals, this is animals who bare living breed, animals with mammals, so to speak... they all produce milk, in a sort of way, which is protein, which means DNA... So, i'm not advocating Darwin so much, i think he thought very religious too, but see, what have we got with that terrific DNA of ours? I think Lions are the best of the mammals, they never work, they live in small families, mostly four or five males - one older male, and four younger than 4.... with 5 or 6 women... they do all the work, they give the food to the men and the children (could be up to ten)... ONLY the eldest male gets access to the ladies, so the strongest genes will survive... I'm not saying this is GOOD or something, but how do you wanna change that with RELIGION? and still we keep thinking that WE are the INTELLIGENCE.... that WE invented the WORD! That this universe was here for our nice view... So Darwin thought too (or he had to) that man was the Ultimate Animal but why should we? we aint ALL Logic is against it and Logic, dear kitty, is my religion From a Darwinistic standpoint, so it is called, ants are far far ahead of us! (but most convinced biologists will disagree with you, when you tell them, because in fact, they are still christians, who believe that Man is the center of the Universe, which he isn't...Otherwise i would have known by now!) Take ALL the BOMBS of the nato, plus UN too, and kill all Humans on the earth, then you would still have ants Otherwise Take all bombs of the earth and kill all ANTS, then there will be nothing left... except viruses, next time... :-) You know something: in Dutch the word 'Logic' sounds like: 'did I lie?' I never lie when i lie i get tired when i speak truth i get nrg! my philosophy gets further and further and further, but what i'm after is Integration.... that's my main word for tonighgt sight sihgt ______________________________ "Get Angry About What We Are Doing To This Planet & Its Inhabitants" Moby, E.I.W.-remixes, 1996 frankz@dds.nl http://huizen.dds.nl/~frankz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:31:51 -0700 From: Anthony Colorez Subject: (mobility) Run On singles? Hey! how the hell is everyone?? I haven't posted anything in ages. um, anyway at amazon.com they have two (U.S. versions I think)run on singles for $10-11, but no track listing, will anyone please tell me what the track listing is? are they worth getting? I still haven't gotten a copy of "play" yet, so I don't even know what run on sounds like. oh well. bye. thanks for any info. for you guys that like moby's EOE, and gmotfotw you might want to check out the soundtrack from "the THIN RED LINE". the 3rd track on there is comparable to "gmotfotw" or "alone". an instrumental master piece. in my opinion anyway. has anyone heard this? - -Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:25:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) animal products in alchohol(with"moby"in text ^_^) At 12:32 PM 5/25/99 -0700, you wrote: >believe all the beer makers listed are brittish most of 'm are Belges ______________________________ "Get Angry About What We Are Doing To This Planet & Its Inhabitants" Moby, E.I.W.-remixes, 1996 frankz@dds.nl http://huizen.dds.nl/~frankz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:25:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: RE: (mobility) VEGANISM (OFF TOPIC _AGAIN_) At 02:51 PM 5/25/99 -0700, you wrote: , and health problems >that lead me to an organic & macrobiotic vegan diet. > >but wrong list!! sorry! yo still have them? ______________________________ "Get Angry About What We Are Doing To This Planet & Its Inhabitants" Moby, E.I.W.-remixes, 1996 frankz@dds.nl http://huizen.dds.nl/~frankz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:25:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) Re: not come with a bonus CD At 06:09 PM 5/25/99 -0600, you wrote: >Hytinic@aol.com wrote: >> Since Moby's last two (studio, at least) CDs have come w/ an extra disc >> (import versions, I mean), is there any word of PLAY coming with something >> extra? this is what i call materialistic egotistic never-enuff capitalism... I want to inform you that Moby told me that he WROTE (when are you ever gonna start?) 200 = two-hundred! moto-fucking songs, and that he ended up with these 18 now on Play, Play them and find out why! not the other 182... he THREW THEM AWAY Try make your own fucking cd! It's like sitting in the Best restaurant of the country, and after a COPIOUS meal, you ask for a free icecream???! ______________________________ "Get Angry About What We Are Doing To This Planet & Its Inhabitants" Moby, E.I.W.-remixes, 1996 frankz@dds.nl http://huizen.dds.nl/~frankz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) At 10:56 PM 5/25/99 -0500, you wrote: Maybe I'm just insane.... but I'm gonna say what's on my mind anyway >;) > >-Aaron go on! this is what this list was invented for! ______________________________ "Get Angry About What We Are Doing To This Planet & Its Inhabitants" Moby, E.I.W.-remixes, 1996 frankz@dds.nl http://huizen.dds.nl/~frankz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:39:46 -0500 (CDT) From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) quick on play i got play today. listened to it twice at work and played seven songs on my radio show tonight. all i can say is that i wish moby cut about 9 songs and extended the other 9. all the songs are good, some are great! however, there are a few "demo" sounding songs and just plain pointless ones. i'm too tired to go into detail and no one really reads album reviews unless they have the album anyway, or at least have an opinion about it already. play is great, just a bit fat around the middle. oh, and let's all have a moment of silence for the death of techno moby. only one real techno song, and it's soooo good! why moby why? ugg, i need to go to bed. [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:31:36 PDT From: "Michael Matos" Subject: (mobility) The interview Here's a link to the article I wrote for City Pages based on the interview I posted last week. Enjoy. Matos http://www.citypages.com/databank/20/964/article7605.asp _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:20:41 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights (The Album) nO YOU'RE NOT INSANE. i AGREE, BUT i AM INSANE, SO MAYBE YOU ARE!? i SAID IT BEFORE AND i'LL SAY IT AGAIN - aNIMA i LOVE ON THE u.s. VERSION, BUT THEN i LOVE mY LOVE WILL NEVER DIE ON THE u.k. VERSION. overall I love the u.s. because of it's variety when listened to in it's entirety, in one go. TMB P.S. i'D LOVE TO JOIN THE VEGAN/CHRISTIAN DEBATE/DISCUSSION ON ANOTHER LIST TYPE THING, BUT i CAN'T COZ I'M GOING AWAY FOR OVER A MONTH (LUCKY FOR SOME!) - IT'S WORK UNFORTUNATELY. On Tue, 25 May 1999 22:56:07 -0500 Aaron Conroy wrote: > With all the discussion lately I decieded I needed to clarify the subject a > bit. I noticed everyone on the list when talking about AR seems to prefer > the U.K. double CD version over the U.S. version. I have both and I prefer > the U.S. version, but perhaps for a reason most of you don't consider > important. I find my self pulling the U.S. version out lots more because I > like listening to whole CDs and even though there are some pretty violent > mood swings, to me the it is the better listen from start to finish, no > contest. Dead Sun and Someone to Love set the tone right away, the album > builds to TWIRFMR, Alone and Face It sit side by side at the Climax of the > Album, then the rest of the album lets you come down ending with A Season > In Hell. In fact it is one of my favorite albums to listen to in its > entirety and I really don't like much rock. I suppose If you could only > own one or the other the U.K. Limited version is the smart choice because > of the larger number of songs and the Little Idiot CD isn't a bad listen > either. Well I won't ramble any longer but is anyone else with me on this > one? Maybe I'm just insane.... but I'm gonna say what's on my mind anyway > ;) > > -Aaron > > > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:08:46 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Desperately looking for Fonts Hello, I am still looking for 2 particular fonts for my WinAmp skins: - - The new Moby font (as on the Honey, Run On and Play titles) - - A child-like handwritten scribbly font PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE If you have one (or both) PLEASE send them to: eijck@iae.nl (fonts can be found in the 'Fonts' folder in the Windows directory) PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE--PLEASE (yes, I'm that desperate...) thanks Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:08:59 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) quick on play theShackofXaq wrote: >i got play today. listened to it twice at work and played seven songs on >my radio show tonight. I'm glad to hear that Moby is getting some airplay. I only hear Moby on the radio in the Netherlands when he's doing an interview and other pro- motional stuff.. They never play Run On (or am I just listening to the wrong station (3FM)?) >play is great, just a bit fat around the middle. oh, and let's all have a >moment of silence for the death of techno moby. only one real techno >song, and it's soooo good! why moby why? I'm still hoping for a side project of Moby with some techno and ambient. I don't want to sound like too much of a 'style purist' , I really like Play, but I do mis Moby's house/techno traxx (like in Oil1 on ILTS)... Bart np: Guns 'n' Roses - Paradise City ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:37 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Play and wanting MORE >>Hytinic@aol.com wrote: >>> Since Moby's last two (studio, at least) CDs have come w/ an extra disc >>> (import versions, I mean), is there any word of PLAY coming with something >>> extra? Then Kees (not the Frankz) wrote: >this is what i call materialistic egotistic never-enuff capitalism... So what?! Half of the world is a materialistic egoistic capitalist. The 'never-enuff' attitude can (to a certain extend) even be a good thing. For example: - -Because people wanted to calculate formulas that were getting more and more advanced and difficult, they invented calculators which were more reliable and much faster than man. Because people still wanted more, these calculators evolved into computers. Computers which you use to write these flames on. ISN'T THAT IRONIC? We have come so far with the 'never-enuff' attitude that it is too late to say: ,,that's enough, let's stop here" because the human race would probably die out within 50 years then... [this is in general.. nothing to do with Play] IMO if we should deside to stop wanting more, we should have done that like 3000 years ago, when it was not to late and we weren't in this vicious cycle in which we are now... So please don't condemn anybody for wanting more, because over the years a large part of mankind has both culturally and economically been forced to want more. It's OK to not agree with everyone, but please state your opinion in a polite manner, acting agressively only causes the other party to feel hurt or to be agressive too. I'm sorry the above has little to do with Play or Moby but I felt like saying it. Another thing: When we all first heard that Moby was working on a new album and that it was about to be released A LOT OF PEOPLE asked if it would be a 2CD. At that time it wasn't entirely certain what it would be, but it would most likely be a single disc. ALL THOSE PEOPLE were told in a friendly manner that it probably would be a single disc. NOBODY flamed them for secretly hoping for a 2CD. Now, after its release, if you only mention the word 2CD you'd better start thinking about an asbestos suit to protect you from all the flames. Why? When I joined this list 3 months ago this seemed like a friendly internet community, but after all these flamewars the past 3 months I'm not so sure any more...Perhaps I'm wrong...PROVE ME WRONG! 'bring back my happiness' Bart van Eijck eijck@iae.nl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 04:25:02 -0700 (PDT) From: NEXT IS THE PP GANG Subject: (mobility) season in hell rock! heard "a season in hell" on the rado last night! rod richardson was doing a fill in for some reason and he played it. it was cool to hear a cd i payed with my own cash on the radio. rock! bye! === "You don't work for JARGON SCOTT, do you?"-Olly SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:22:27 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: re:(mobility) stuff > From a Darwinistic standpoint, so it is called, ants are far far ahead of > us! > (but most convinced biologists will disagree with you, when you tell them, > because in fact, they are still christians, who believe that Man is the > center of the Universe, which he isn't...Otherwise i would have known by > now!) > Man - It looks like you have studied everything in this FREAKIN world, OTHER than Christianity. Christians do not believe that man is the center of the universe. You seem to have a lot of anger maybe? Not quite sure I want to know, but you have a lot of negativity towards alot of things........ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:26:09 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: not come with a bonus CD > Try make your own fucking cd! It's like sitting in the Best restaurant of > the country,and after a COPIOUS meal, you ask for a free icecream???! > Man - why dont you chill the fuck out? You have had a remark for everything that EVERYONE has said. Can you actually tell me that you didnt love the EIW double remix CD? Come on let some of us wish and dream!!! Oh, I am sorry. That is probably a fundamentalist point of view huh? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:05:51 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Play and wanting MORE....peace and understanding... Yes, Bart I do agree with much of what you are saying, but where we have got to, just emphasises that the capitalism we have at the moment, causes suffering to others and the environment. Just because we have progressed technologically doesn't mean we did it in the right way. It's not so easy to see the suffering it has caused because we don't really suffer physically, compared to the rest of the majority, third world. Greed and selfishness is negative and basically that's what capitalism thrives on. Sustainability and community is positive. It'll never be utopia, but trying to change what we have got for the better,is surely a good thing. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear Moby's view on this, since he is concerned with the environment and animal welfare, etc. TMB On Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:37 +0200 Bart van Eijck wrote: > >>Hytinic@aol.com wrote: > >>> Since Moby's last two (studio, at least) CDs have come w/ an extra disc > >>> (import versions, I mean), is there any word of PLAY coming with > something > >>> extra? > > Then Kees (not the Frankz) wrote: > >this is what i call materialistic egotistic never-enuff capitalism... > > So what?! Half of the world is a materialistic egoistic capitalist. > The 'never-enuff' attitude can (to a certain extend) even be a good thing. > For example: > -Because people wanted to calculate formulas that were getting more and > more advanced and difficult, they invented calculators which were more > reliable and much faster than man. Because people still wanted more, these > calculators evolved into computers. Computers which you use to write these > flames on. ISN'T THAT IRONIC? > > We have come so far with the 'never-enuff' attitude that it is too late to > say: > ,,that's enough, let's stop here" because the human race would probably > die out within 50 years then... [this is in general.. nothing to do with > Play] > IMO if we should deside to stop wanting more, we should have done that > like 3000 years ago, when it was not to late and we weren't in this vicious > cycle in which we are now... > > So please don't condemn anybody for wanting more, because over the > years a large part of mankind has both culturally and economically been > forced to want more. It's OK to not agree with everyone, but please state > your opinion in a polite manner, acting agressively only causes the other > party to feel hurt or to be agressive too. > > I'm sorry the above has little to do with Play or Moby but I felt like > saying it. > > Another thing: > > When we all first heard that Moby was working on a new album and that it > was about to be released A LOT OF PEOPLE asked if it would be a 2CD. > At that time it wasn't entirely certain what it would be, but it would most > likely be a single disc. ALL THOSE PEOPLE were told in a friendly manner > that it probably would be a single disc. NOBODY flamed them for secretly > hoping for a 2CD. Now, after its release, if you only mention the word > 2CD > you'd better start thinking about an asbestos suit to protect you from all > the > flames. > > Why? > When I joined this list 3 months ago this seemed like a friendly internet > community, but after all these flamewars the past 3 months I'm not so > sure any more...Perhaps I'm wrong...PROVE ME WRONG! > > 'bring back my happiness' > > Bart van Eijck > eijck@iae.nl > > > > > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V1 #418 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.