From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #23 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, June 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 023 Re[2]: (mobility) techno music Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music (mobility) early underground Re: (mobility) early underground Re: (mobility) All Time (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #21 Re: (mobility) early underground Re: (mobility) All Time Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music Re: (mobility) All Time Re: (mobility) What is techno? Re: (mobility) What is Kraftwerk? Re: (mobility) old compilations Re[2]: (mobility) All Time Re: (mobility) What is Kraftwerk? Re: (mobility) Moby interview Re: (mobility) techno / kraftwerk - Re: (mobility) What is techno? Re: (mobility) What is techno? (mobility) SUMMER VACATION YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music Re: (mobility) What is techno? Re: (mobility) sugar is sweeter (mobility) very short Run On review (mobility) rolling stone RE: (mobility) rolling stone (mobility) Tour Dates??? Re: (mobility) SUMMER VACATION YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (mobility) Porcelain ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:33:23 -0700 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music Hey Bart & others, I think it was you who helped me out with the information on the SMART E's. I've been looking ALL OVER for that friggin CD of theirs and I can't find it anywhere. I've found "Sesame's Treat" on various compilations, but not their album/cd. Any suggestions from anyone on how to get this would be appreciated. Somone on the list said the album wasn't half bad especially a few songs were great. STILL wondering who did the "'C' IS FOR COOKIE" song. Anyone remember that? - Jayson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (mobility) techno music Author: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 06/21/1999 9:31 PM Daniel Cerman wrote: >.....but it's difficult for me to say whether wink's "Are You There?" is a classic. "Are you there?" is defenately a weird and minimal song, but I don't think it's a classic. I'm thinking more of "Higher state of consciousness"...... >It's funny... "Get Ready For This" really took off in the pop world >years after it was released. It was an old song when many people >thought it was new. Yes, a few years after its release in the Netherlands "Get ready for this" finally made it to the US. Bart np: Nomad - Just a groove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:56:48 PDT From: Steve Giles Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music A pawn shop near me had it a year ago, and I almost bought it. They literally have piles of unorganized CDs out on the floor, so I'll scour them on my next weekly visit and see if it's still there. Please don't get your hopes up though, it's been a year! If you're looking for it physically (as opposed to online) the cover is all yellow w/ Sesame's Treat on the cover in blue or black letters, and there's 4 or 5 mixes, inc. a Joey Beltram one. The back is yellow, too. - -Steve >From: jgmagnus@bkb.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music >Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:33:23 -0700 > > > Hey Bart & others, > > I think it was you who helped me out with the information on the >SMART > E's. I've been looking ALL OVER for that friggin CD of theirs and I > can't find it anywhere. I've found "Sesame's Treat" on various > compilations, but not their album/cd. > > Any suggestions from anyone on how to get this would be appreciated. > Somone on the list said the album wasn't half bad especially a few > songs were great. > > STILL wondering who did the "'C' IS FOR COOKIE" song. Anyone remember > that? > > - Jayson > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Re: (mobility) techno music >Author: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET >Date: 06/21/1999 9:31 PM > > >Daniel Cerman wrote: > >.....but it's difficult for me to say whether wink's "Are You There?" is >a >classic. > >"Are you there?" is defenately a weird and minimal song, but I don't think >it's >a classic. I'm thinking more of "Higher state of consciousness"...... > > >It's funny... "Get Ready For This" really took off in the pop world > >years after it was released. It was an old song when many people > >thought it was new. > > >Yes, a few years after its release in the Netherlands "Get ready for this" >finally made it to the US. > > >Bart >np: Nomad - Just a groove > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:17:39 EDT From: SCHRAGIN2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) early underground Does anyone else here have the moby "early underground" CD? It has an early version of "Go" and a great tune called "drug fits the face". adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:08:12 EDT From: JGMagnus@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) early underground Yup. I got that. it's a great MOBY cd. Good remixes on the CD. - - jayson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:27:28 +0900 From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) All Time You know, I feel kind of stupid sayig this but most of the people you guys listed I have never even heard of. Maybe I would have heard their song, but never heard of them. I guess I am not as hard core as some of you guys. On top of Little Fluffy Clouds and Halcyon +On +On, I think, Faithless - Insomnia has to be way up there. And who ever said New Order - Blue Monday, well you're right that must be up there too. Later. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:42:30 PDT From: A.M. Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #21 >From: "Stegenga, Scott" >Musique Non Stop - Kraftwerk or People are People by Depeche Mode. > >Sorry, I sound old, but they're both all-electronic, right? If Blue Monday doesn't qualify as "techno" due to the live instruments, what about Soft Cell - Sex Dwarf? All electronic number that I danced to when I was a twelve year old goth kid in the 80's. A more recent one would have to be (as far as the rave scene) was Wink's "Higher State of Consciousness". I was at a party where he was spinning when he premiered that song and everybody got all psycho. It was fun. I think that Deep Forest song from '92 was pretty big, at the time. Also FSOL's "Papua New Guinea". Andrew _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:08:35 EDT From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) early underground yeah i have it, and i know that rollingstones here in norridge should have a copy of it ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:11:45 EDT From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) All Time maybe i'm alone on this, but i think a lot of meat beat manifesto is pretty classic, also spahn ranch - vortex, and if anyone has ever listened to metro la, it is also pretty good. i also must say i'm very happy about this list right now, because everyone is sharing thier opinions on music and all very interesting. andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:23:50 EDT From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music I have Smart E's Sesame's Treet remix single. It is on cassette, and it has three mixes and the radio edit of the song. If anyone wants a copy, let me know. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:25:59 EDT From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) All Time Yes, New Order's "Blue Monday" is a classic, as is "Bizarre Love Triangles" and "True Faith." I am partial to "Touched By the Hand of God." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:09:23 EDT From: Proxia@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) What is techno? what other genre would you put Kraftwerk in though ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:42:00 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) What is Kraftwerk? Proxia@aol.com wrote: >what other genre would you put Kraftwerk in though ? Depeche Mode = New Wave / Synth pop Kraftwerk = Kraftwerk, it's really hard to capture it in a genre... Music magazines I read usually call it "German synthesiser music" which I think is a bit vague. It's like calling Techno "Detroit synthesiser music"..... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:42:38 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) old compilations Tim wrote: >All this talk about "old" techno has got me going back and listening to all >my original cds. I discovered techno, as well as Moby, through >compilations. I've never bought that "Rave 'Til Dawn" cd but I thought I'd >recommend a few other ones. In Europe we had sooooo many techno compilations! I'm only 18 and so I had a very hard time tracking the releases from 1990-1991-1992 down. I was only 10 in 1991 so I couldn't start looking for them until +/- 1995 (the year in which I discovered Moby with EIW and Underwater!) But I have 2 compilation series complete now: - - Techno Trance (vol. 1-10) - - Turn up the Bass (vol. 1-25)!! The Turn up the Bass series coveres almost al electronic music (New Beat, House, Acid, Hiphouse, Deep House, Freestyle House, Techno, Italo House, Mellow House, Gabber and everything in between) from 1989 till 1993. This is not a "best of" compilation, but vol. 1 was actually released in 1989 and volume 25 in 1993. Techno Trance is more Techno orientated and goes from 1991 till 1995. (vol. 1 released in 1991..etc.) It's a shame these 2 compilation series were only released in Holland and Beligium (I think) and are loooooooooong out of print and impossible to find now. (I haven't seen one in 2 years..) In Holland we also had great compilation series like: Move the House, Houseparty, Rave the City, Now Dance. I like compilations released in the year that the tracks were 'hits' best. 'The history of..' and 'the best of' - -compilations often give you only the very 'obvious' tracks not offering unknown tracks & artists. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:46:41 -0700 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) All Time What about 808 State??? I think I have some REALLY old stuff from them. (it seems as though it is old) - Jayson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (mobility) All Time Author: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 06/21/1999 4:16 PM Let's not forget New Order's Blue Monday, Electribe 101's tell Me When the Fever Ended. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:41:13 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) What is Kraftwerk? Bart wrote, "German synthesiser music" in my book i'll call them: the inventors of tekno-musik (with the Residents) kees ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby interview Hey guys I dont know if anyone has seen this yet but it has a full realvideo interview with Moby on it and its pretty cool. I enjoyed it go check it out! Bri http://www.bugjuice.com/moby/moby_nest.html === _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:39:05 EDT From: Proxia@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) techno / kraftwerk - In a message dated 6/22/99 9:43:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, frankz@dds.nl writes: << in my book i'll call them: the inventors of tekno-musik >> see this is what i thought kraftwerk ... the ones who began the techno / electronica moviment ... i mean the old jazz people like "mile davis" and "herbie hancock" these 2 have also been said to have started the techno movement ... i mean with there odd use of electronic synthizisers ... i mean the genre TECHNO is so vast i mean i mean portishead [ which is in the style of trip hop ..] is still a form of techno if you look at it right ... right ?!!! i mean it uses some of the basic elements and so forth .. well anyway i think kraftwerk were won of the beginners of the techno movement ... though there were others who had a more dancy sound to um ... l ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) What is techno? - --- BFle123456@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have a mix of CJ Bolland's Sugar is > Sweeter? > > yes I have three I think Bri === _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:25:11 EDT From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) What is techno? In a message dated 6/22/99 10:02:45 AM Central Daylight Time, bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com writes: << Does anyone have a mix of CJ Bolland's Sugar is > Sweeter >> i have a mix by armand van heldon, it's not bad andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) SUMMER VACATION YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Well, when are we gonna get rowdy? anyway, i got good news. OLLY'S MOM EMAILED ME!!! She thanked me for reminding everyone to thank SPIN for doing an article on S&O and thank MTV for showing S&O and urging them to put it back on! She said Liam was in LA talking to the MTV folks. ROCK! In the meantime, EVERYONE KEEP WRITING TO MTV AND SPIN !!!!! WE NEE DS&O BACK ON MORE THAN ANYTHING!!!! SUMMER IS HERE SCHOOL IS OVER! YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok, maybe you do...... anyway, MTV has now put the new CHEMICAL BROTHERS video in rotation! It's called "Let Forever Be", and its WILD!!!!! Its really good tho, and since its in rotation, well, LETS BOMBARD THE TRL PAGE WITH REQWESTS!!!!!! Cum on folks, If MTV won't play MOBY, and they won't play S&O on TRL like we tried to get them to do, at least they have an actual GOOD VIDEO by an actual GOOD GROUP in ROTATION. Not just on AMP, not just on 120 MINUTES, but in ACTUAL ROTATION. It was on SPANKIN NEW MUSIC yesterday. Please, go to the TRL page, and then go to shows then go to TRL, then "Play My Song", then vote for "Let Forever Be" by the Chemical Brothers, (their new album is out today and it is PHAT!!!), and write in the comments "PLAY SIFL AND OLLY!!!! WE NEED IT BACK NOW!!!!!!" oh yes, goingpostal@spinmag.com right! now go do your part! "can i finally peel my bowling ball with this thing YES! you can finally strip away the hard marble exoskeleton and reveal the tender pulpy inside!"-Olly "dude, you know the problems I've been having being tender and pulpy!"-Sifl === "I LOVE CHESTER! YOU IDIOT!"-anonymous Caller From The Public SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:44:48 EDT From: UsEr835024@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) techno music ill take a copy =) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:10:28 EDT From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) What is techno? Bri, What mixes do you have of Sugar is Sweeter? I want to get my hands on a few mixes; that is the best song. If possible, could I arrange a way by which I could get a copy of your mixes. If I can, feel free to email me at flem98@aol.com Thanks . . . .Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:23:15 EDT From: Proxia@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) sugar is sweeter whats up with the sudden CJ bolland craze ? did all you guys see the video on M2 or something or on AMP and you think hes the next big thing ? Or is it just all the talk of what techno is that got people thinking of older great techno artists ? i dont see what the big deal is about whats techno ... i mean if you like it groove if not dont . but why get all out of shape about stuff ... just sit back and relax to the soothing sound of music in general . 0 pp ll ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:38:30 -0500 From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) very short Run On review Tastyfresh writes about "Run On": ?. - -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:55:57 -0500 From: Ade Subject: (mobility) rolling stone maybe this has already been mentioned (i've had to only skim the list the past few weeks) but there's a mini article/interview w/ Moby in the June 24th issue of Rolling Stone (the one w/ Jar-Jar Binks on the cover). he mentions talking to his fans on the Internet (which is us), and I thought that was pretty cool. cya. - --Ade. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:00:31 -0500 From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: RE: (mobility) rolling stone There's also a feature article/interview on the site. Be sure to keep the whole link.. http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?afl=&NewsID=8 065&navchoice=cage&LookUpString=1603 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:19:24 -0600 From: Daniel Redmond Subject: (mobility) Tour Dates??? OK, Play's been out for about a month now in the US...any word on tour dates yet? Rumors, confirmed, anything! For some reason, I doubt that Moby is coming to Boise (maybe because the boise concert scene stinks, but i digress) and i need to make plans... later daniel "Asche zu asche, und schtaub zu schtaub" - Rammstein ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:17:35 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) SUMMER VACATION YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 to Paul: Oh Paul, man, yo are so funny, keep doing this, yo'll become an Olly :-) frankz (uhuh!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) Porcelain I *loooove* 'Porcelain'. Was just listening to one of the only decent local radio stations here and they played 'Porcelain'. I just think that song is simply beautiful and if Moby performs it live during his upcoming tour I am just going to cry while he plays it. I love this radio stations cuz they are actually playing a couple songs off of 'Play' in their regular rotation lately. Also I updated my website with new pictures. I only had one picture of Moby when he was here dj'ing and it turned out very blurry...oh well. I'll get better ones when his tour heads this way. I also have picture from when I saw Gus Gus, Mark Farina, Joi, DSCI4 Tour (Trace, Fierce & MC Ryme Tyme), and Paul van Dyk. As well as many older pictures from Underworld, Dubtribe, Asian Dub Foundation, Richie Hawtin, Doc Martin, Paul Oakenfold, Dave Seaman, etc. Check em out and let me know what you think or sign my guestbook! Thanks. The link is below....enjoy! :) Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html slurb@scn.org ...::::i'm a tree that grows hearts::::... ..........::::(((my love)))::::........... ....::::one for each that you take::::.... ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #23 ***************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.