From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #58 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 058 (mobility) t h o u s a n d (mobility) my top ten of the 90's (mobility) question... RE: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s Re: (mobility) Spin's top 90 of the 90's Re: (mobility) OLDSKOOL! nasa tape giveaway, smart e's! Re: (mobility) t h o u s a n d (mobility) Top ten of the 90's (mobility) Moby Nile Re: (mobility) my top 10 of the 90's (mobility) Bart's top 10 of the 90's (mobility) My Top 10 albums of the 90s.. (mobility) already time for the best of the 90's? (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #57 RE: (mobility) Tuscon, AZ RE: (mobility) Boston ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) t h o u s a n d On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, alive in the fields wrote: > ps. I'm going to see Moby in detroit on aug. 31st with a bunch of closet > Moby fans. Just look for the group of late teens trying to dance fast enough > when Moby breaks out Thousand. At least I hope he breaks out Thousand. What > a challenging song to dance to. I have see nary a man try, and he who I did > see attempt almost died trying to wiggle it more than just a little bit to > the ludicrous number of beats per minute. Yeah. Rock. Speaking of 'Thousand'; I have a query about that song and was wondering if maybe some of you more "studied" fans of Moby could answer. Okay, I was listening to "Rare" today and 'Thousand' came on and I got to thinking, did Moby write 'Thousand' because he was honestly inspired and had a vision to write this song exactly as it was or do you think he just had an urge to do sort of a "gimmick" type song with a hook, what with the guiness record for fastest song and all? What do you think? (i hope that made sense....it's 2:30 in the morning *hehe*) Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:50:10 -0700 From: kevin kopplin Subject: (mobility) my top ten of the 90's I've decided I'm going to give this a go too, since I love both music and being opinionated... listed alphabetically garbage - garbage less than jake - losing streak nirvana - nevermind radiohead - ok computer rancid - let's go red hot chili peppers - blood sugar sex magik smashing pumpkins - siamese dream sublime - sublime violent femmes - add it up (yeah, it's a bunch of old stuff, but it's all great and the copyright date is 1993 so I assume it counts) weezer - pinkerton damn, there's so many I missed... it's not easy narrowing it down to ten kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:55:41 -0700 From: kevin kopplin Subject: (mobility) question... just something that popped into my head after thinking about "play" making the Spin Top 90 list... if I remember correctly, EIW was named one of Spin's albums of the year in... 94 I think? either I'm wrong, or this doesn't make sense... if EIW was one of the best albums (theoretically one of the best ten, then, I think) how can it not make the top 90? how can that album not make every list, period? it's absolutely wonderful... just some random thought... maybe I'd sound more coherent if I got some sleep. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:18:10 -0400 From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s Just saw Frank Black the other night...he was very good, as usual (that was the eighth time I've seen him, I think). So here goes, in no particular order (I think there are 15 here instead of ten) Red House Painters - Red House Painters (rollercoaster cover) Catherine Wheel - Chrome The Pixies - Trompe Le Monde Sugar - Copper Blue/Beaster Moby - Play/Everything is Wrong Beastie Boys - Check Your Head Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister Blur - Parklife Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists The Charlatans - Up To Our Hips KMFDM - Naive The La's - The La's My Bloody Valentine - Loveless Paw - Dragline Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation - -----Original Message----- Top Ten of the 90s The best CD of the last ten years is (imho).... Frank Black - Teenager of the Year ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:27:43 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) Spin's top 90 of the 90's - --- TronicaFan@aol.com wrote: > Hey there! > So "Play" is considered by Spin magazine to be one > of the pinacle releases of > the last 10 years. Therefore, I put this question > to anyone who wishes to > answer. Aside from the releases by Moby, what would > be in your top 10? > > -Riley 1)Vast 2)The The-empty 3)Tribe called Quest- Midnight maurader 4)Cirrus-1999 5)Cowboy Junkies- Trinity Sessions Ill finish later. Bri === _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) OLDSKOOL! nasa tape giveaway, smart e's! I just wish that a tour like that could happen again, Ive asked some artist that were on the tour over the past few years and no one seem convinced that it could happen again. But sometimes wishing gets you no where. Bri - --- jerry garcia wrote: > your very welcome. glad to know someone else on the > list caught that tour. everyone really put forth a > great effort. i think they didn't want to be > upstaged > by the other acts. i saw the tour in san francisco > and > i got the long sleeve t as well(black with the moby > move logo). but it's long since gone. :( > > peace-christian > === _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 9:08:59 EST From: Adekunle Olonoh Subject: Re: (mobility) t h o u s a n d > Okay, I was listening to "Rare" today and 'Thousand' came on and I got to > thinking, did Moby write 'Thousand' because he was honestly inspired and > had a vision to write this song exactly as it was or do you think he just > had an urge to do sort of a "gimmick" type song with a hook, what with the > guiness record for fastest song and all? I've wondered that before as well. Good question. I think I've heard somewhere that a big part of it was just to push the limits. He heard some other song that was changing it's BPM count and got as high as a few hundred or something and thought it sounded cool and said, "hey, why not a thousand?" I'm sure someone else knows the story better than I do, and I may be way off anyway. It's a pretty cool song nonetheless--I think "power" may be the evident key word. I've heard people say it's kickass live, and I think that's what I'd look forward to if I ever got to a Moby show. Peace. np: Undernourished, "Manipulated" - --Ade. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:13:01 -0500 From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: (mobility) Top ten of the 90's In no order, but of equal importance, and excluding Moby... 1. Smashing Pumpkins - 'Siamese Dream' (modern american rock at its best) 2. Jeff Buckley - 'Grace' (My eyes still tear up on some songs here, even before he died) 3. Radiohead - 'OK Computer' (pinnacle of art rock) 4. Oasis - '(What's The Story) Morning Glory?' (britpop returns!) 5. Bob Dylan - 'Live 1966 - The Concert at Royal Albert Hall' (quite possibly the best live rock album ever) 6. Beastie Boys - 'Check Your Head' (best fusion of the 60's, 70's and 80's) 7. Belly - 'Star' (Tanya Donnelly is so underappreciated) 8. Peter Murphy - 'Deep' (goth never died when he went solo, it just got better) 9. Manic Street Preachers - 'Everything Must Go' (the beautiful end of Britpop) 10. Mercury Rev - 'Deserters Songs' (makes you seriously consider taking drugs. I still won't, but... you know.) and my list goes to eleven 11. The Stone Roses - self-titled (yes it was released in 1989, but this is quite possibly the album of my existence, it defines everything I listen to. Nothing compares to its sheer simple brilliance. And I'll stop sounding like a fluff now. Thank You.) - --------------------------------------------- Scott Stegenga Tunes.com (formerly JAMTV/RollingStone Network) ...same company, more stuff... 312-642-7560 x109 http://www.tunes.com http://www.rollingstone.com http://www.thesource.com http://www.downbeatjazz.com http://www.rsradio.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:03:24 -0700 From: "Cottier, Darryl" Subject: (mobility) Moby Nile Niles is just not the best venue, in Tempe I played there last week and it is semi small, sound depends on what they bring in but it tends to bounce off the walls alot, but if place is packed the people will stop that. Not a good place to watch an artist. Darryl Cottier - - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:55 PM To: at INTERNET Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Arizona! why.. what's wrong with the niles theatre? i live in tucson, so i don't know much about the venues in tucson. plov - - > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: Re: (mobility) my top 10 of the 90's you REALLY like mutations by beck, i bought it expected it to be very good, as i loved both Mellow Gold and Odelay, however, i found this new CD to be very bad...i dunno, maybe it's just me...i'd defiatly put beck up there in great artists of the 90's but not mutations... what you you all think? - -Dan - ---JRDYM77@aol.com wrote: > > my top 10 for the 1990s would have to include yet is not limited to > > Sinead O'Connor, Universal Mother & Gospel Oak > PJ Harvey, To Bring You My Love > Cyndi Lauper, Sisters of Avalon > Frente, Marvin the Album > the cranberries, To The Faithful Departed > Marilyn Manson, Mechanical Animals > eels, electro-shock blues > Moby, Everything is Wrong > Bjork, Homogenic > k.d. lang, All You Can Eat > Ani Difranco, Dilate & Living in Clip > Beck, Mutations > soundtrack, Pi > > thank you for hearing me :) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:48:24 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Bart's top 10 of the 90's >Hey there! >So "Play" is considered by Spin magazine to be one of the pinacle releases of >the last 10 years. Therefore, I put this question to anyone who wishes to >answer. Aside from the releases by Moby, what would be in your top 10? > >-Riley My top 10 would be: 01- Moby - Everything is wrong 02- Leftfield - Leftism 03- Metallica - (the black titleless album) 04- The Aloof - Sinking 06- Faithless - Sunday 8pm 07- Air - Moon Safari 08- KLF - The White Room 09- K's Choise - Cocoon Crash 10- Guns 'n' Roses - Use Your Illusion 1&2 Can't wait until the release of Leftfields 2nd. album! Does anybody know when this is? Bart np: MV & B - Limits ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:24:37 -0500 From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: (mobility) My Top 10 albums of the 90s.. How about we just say top 10 (or so) albums period!...and I will add Moby because he is important. i have thought about this list for a few days now so here it is. Mind you these are in no particular order...they are just the top of my list... SISTERS OF MERCY/FIRST LAST AND ALWAYS followed closely by "some girls wander...", nothing like smooth baselines, early syth, and aldrich's voice...the rhythmic din of the sister's baselines and tone..., there are very very few bands I will see live now a days but the sisters are one of them. MINISTRY/THE MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO TASTE great songs, ground breaking ways, this album is supplemented by ministry's live album..."In case you didn't feel like showing up..." for the real raw emotion in the songs. "thieves" alone is an anthem for industrial music. MOBY/MOVE The first moby album I bought and still my favorite, not only does it have those wonderful ambient songs it has the best version of the best moby track"all that i need is to be loved", but honestly it is hard to pick just one moby album/single/song. JANE'S ADDICTION/NOTHINGS SHOCKING I am a heavy electronic music fan but jane's is amazing and this album, even though most of the material was written years before it was recorded captures the band at their best, if you own one jane's record this is it, but any of them you can't go wrong with, "Kettle wistle" is a good one for an overview of the band. EARTHCRISIS/FIRESTORM The hardest most militant vegan straightedge hardcore record ever made and still the best, even though the straightedge hardcore scene is nothing like it was in it's hayday (1991-early 1995) this record still holds true. Plus I am from syracuse so I am a bit biased. SKINNY PUPPY/TOO DARK PARK Ok, I know alot of puppy fans think this record is a bit weak compared to their earlier stuff but I think it is the best, such industrial strength and dark solid emotions in the songs. NINE INCH NAILS/PRETTY HATE MACHINE I have always had a love/hate relationship with NIN...between the chessy teeny bopping "hate your parents/my life is pain " cliches trent seems to dig, to the pure style and layers of some of the more avant garde NIN tracks. "pretty hate machine' was i think one of the first industrial(ish) records that brought industrial and really electronic music into the mainstream. Broken and fixed are also good to see the progression of NIN, and the downward spiral is the only true industrial/alternative/pop/top 40 record of an value, the record is worth itself if only for the track(s) "a warm place" and "hurt", the new stuff "the day the world went away" is just amazing and I can not wait for "the fragile" to come out. All in all if you look past the sideshow and fashion victims of NIN you see musical perfection (at times). NIN is the only other band i seriously collect besides moby. MINOR THREAT/FUGAZI and YOUTH OF TODAY/SHELTER all four of those bands are amazing in their own rights, but the period of minor threat's transition into fugazi and vis-versa for youth of today into shelter are some great early hardcore. Minor threat's salad days and fugazi's song number one 7inches are amazing, Youth of today's last single into Shelter's "quest for certianty"...oh my god! THE CURE/DISINTEGRATION oh my! big long deep symphonic masterpieces. I am not a huge cure fan but this record is amazing and breathtaking. BEASTIE BOYS/LICENSED TO ILL we all know it, we all love it and I bet we all can sing/rap (whatever) at least one track from this album. Phat baselines, oldskool feel and the groundwork the the b-boy's musical journeys. THE PRODIGY/EXPERIENCE I know many consider "music for a jilted generation" the quintesential prodigy album but i always have leaned towards this one. It feels better to me and is probably has one of the best song orders of any album. PORTISHEAD/LIVE IN NYC I like all of this bands music for the most part, but this record combines so many elements into such a great whole. TRICKY/PRE-MILLENNIUM TENSION I like this album so much for it's complexity it is hard to talk about it. "christiansands" is am amazing track VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO (the one with Warhol's banana on it) This album is from the late 60s, but sounds like it was recorded (musically) from last year...point is it always sounds current. EVERY electronic/goth/pop/rock band owes it's roots to this record and band. They really set the stage for modern underground music. They did for "alternative" what the beatles did for pop/mainstream. Sorry to ramble on so long but I had to expand my reasons. - --- Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 - --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:24:13 -0700 From: danny legare Subject: (mobility) already time for the best of the 90's? off the top of my head: not in any order: slowdive- souvlaki massive attack- mezzanine hole- live through this moby- play underworld- dubnobasswithmyheadman/beaucoup fish nine inch nails- downward spiral bjork- debut st.etienne- foxbase alpha jane's addiction- ritual del habitual dead can dance- into the labyrinth more to come- should have a formal list in about....3 months or so... and for songs- don't even get me started.... yikes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:28:02 EDT From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #57 hey, i'm seeing moby on 30th this friday (woohoo!). is anyone else coming to the boston show? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:53:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Tuscon, AZ OK. sorry about the gender confusion. All makes sense now. I see that "PLOV" and I automatically assume it's Chris from SF. - Jayson - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:43 PM To: at INTERNET Subject: RE: (mobility) Tuscon, AZ sorry.. i meant that i don't know much about the venues in PHOENIX. i don't know much about the ones in tucson, either.. but that has no context to what i meant earlier. and.. i'm not a HE. just thought i'd clear a few things. there is an A at the end of my first name, so Michael is not it.. it's Michaela. just for all u confused ppl out there. plov - -----Original Message----- From: but not _the_ frankz To: mobility Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 8:49 AM Subject: (mobility) Tuscon, AZ >Jayson! >> >> the statement below makes no sense at all. >> >> KEES! Maybe you can make some sense out of it! >> If he lives in Tucson, wouldn't he know about Tucson? >> Must be a typo. (just kidding Kees! I luv ya!) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET >> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:55 PM >> To: at INTERNET >> Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Arizona! >> >> >> why.. what's wrong with the niles theatre? i live in tucson, so i don't >> know much about the venues in tucson. > >well Tuscon IS in Arizona, right? > >..and if you dont live in Tuscon, how could you know? > >Kees, >-- > >--------------- > "I'm livin' in Limbo!" > [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:00:00 -0400 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Boston BOSTON: July 30th at Avalon on Landsdown Street. Doors open at 10pm. You can buy the tickets at the door (it's not sold out, I checked). Avalon is RIGHT BEHIND Fenway Park (where the Red Sox play) so it would be impossible not to find your way there. Just ask anyone in Boston for directions! email me if you want to meet up: jgmagnus@bkb.com - Jayson - -----Original Message----- From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 4:27 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Subject: (mobility) Boston Please! Someone, anyone who knows something, anything about the Boston show around the 26th please tell me/the list! I really want to know as I may finally have a chance to se him! By the way, Plov, look! I am not the only one who made that special mistake... 3rd line, 2nd word... Later. AJ > the statement below makes no sense at all. > KEES! Maybe you can make some sense out of it! > If he lives in Tucson, wouldn't he know about Tucson? > Must be a typo. (just kidding Kees! I luv ya!) ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #58 ***************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.