From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #114 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, September 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 114 Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Re: (mobility) Scooter??? (mobility) veg*an V2 #112 (mobility) re: p-brgh psyched (mobility) re:Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? (mobility) Chicken (mobility) Hello Moby FANS! (mobility) Moby on Loveline (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question (mobility) Vegan/musician? (mobility) hola! (mobility) moby on the world cafe 9-8-99 Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question (mobility) [Fwd: Zen diet and vegetarianism] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:56:44 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Daniel Redmond wrote: >On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. >Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on >him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. For info about Scooter look here! http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote r/ (<>,,<>) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:57:09 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Daniel Redmond wrote: >On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. >Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on >him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. For info about Scooter look here! http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote r/ (<>,,<>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:01:48 +0300 (EET DST) From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) veg*an V2 #112 > i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me for > asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a vegan? > thanks. later not dumb question at all! now you can invite all your veg*an friends over dinner without hesitation. labels are usefull when one has to quickly have something done right, f.e. friend wants to know what you'd like to eat. ovo-lacto-vegetarian means that you don't eat meat of animals. vegetarian means that you don't eat any products containing animalstuff. vegan means that you don't eat, wear nor use any product where somewhere along products life has been use of animals in any way. usually vegans don't use any kind of drugs, illegal or legal, are aware of damages done to enviroment and so on. X-s (straightx, straightedge) are vegans, christians and refuse to have sex before marriage. at least that's the way how they are in finland. it is somewhat impossible to be a fundamentalvegan, so most of vegans don't demand absolute certanty. things around are too complex for anyone to know everything. best what we can do is to not use animals according our knowledge of the situation, cos every refusing of use lacks from the total mass of all uses of animals. to me being a vegan means ability to hear silent demand. h, monkey in a canoe p.s. vegans don't eat honey, but it's quite all right to listen it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:07:52 -0400 From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) re: p-brgh psyched hi, casey!!!! so sorry you can't make it!! why not?? i'm going to find my baby!!..... jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:16:15 -0400 From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) re:Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? hey - mobyheads - 'kay - i'm practically a vegetarian, but i have the occasional bit of flesh because i'm truthfully too poor to supplement/make the transfer to V properly. (scorn me now - go ahead....) i am a classic musician and pop-wannabe-musician. i sing (mostly early music - handel, purcell - anything light - i am a light leggiero tenor.) i have a degree in music ed - i conduct (chorally) and play a great deal of piano. i would love to start to record some of my own pop stuff, but i lack the equipment and am probably moving in the next month or so. i would also love to start spinning vinyls. i am 23. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:39:29 EDT From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Chicken Hi, my name's Gabriele. And I used to eat chicken. ("Hi, Gabriele")...j/k Well apart from that one fact that Moby shared (the one about "80% of U.S.D.A. chicken inspectors no longer eating chicken"), I just saw this amazing docu-film called "Baraka" that has made it impossible for me to eat chicken. No words, just incredible images from all over the world. But there's a part in the 2nd half where they show how chickens are processed from eggs to when they're young chicks. It is totally shocking. Once you watch that, it's hard to get it out of your conscience... Okay, now to make it more Moby-related: Moby is wonderful :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:52:02 -0400 From: Danny Gallegos Subject: (mobility) Hello Moby FANS! Hello there Moby Fan! There is a new voice online! MobyAMP soon to be your one stop source for moby related news! check out http://www.divinecreation.net/MobyAmp to see what we have to offer! Please enlist in our press helpers! It's free! You can vist the MobyAmp beta website @ http://www.divinecreation.net/MobyAmp/beta Username: moby Password: beta This site is just a template links are going to be broken or not working at all, Our site will be offcialy posted in about 2 weeks. Please link your site to ours and we will do the same for you! Together we can make it happen! (MobyAMP a site by fans for fans) Thank you, Danny Gallegos Email: moby@divinecreation.net AIM: XPhantasma UIN: 7957051 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:09:07 EDT From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby on Loveline Did anyone else happen to catch Moby on Loveline last night? It was the radio show, not the TV one. I completely forgot about telling you guys about that. It was on KROQ for those in Cali and KUBZ in Western WA. I'm such a nerd sometimes. I was going to call in and talk to him, but it was already midnight and they were replaying the first hour. (It's a two hour show, 10pm to midnight, but of course, The Buzz likes to play a three hour segment...stupid Seattle stations are messed up!!!) I'm gonna write up to KROQ to see if they'll give me a copy of it and I know that on Friday, they should play an hour of him during Loveline. (They always have repeats on Fridays.) He might be on the TV show in about three weeks or so (the time slots are weird...once when they had Blink 182 on the radio show, they didn't come up on the TV one, even though it was done the next day, until three months later) but I'll try to keep you guys up on that one. Anyway...yeah...ummmmm...vote on EmptyVee!! Oh, and call The Box a lot (if you get the station) and bug them to get Bodyrock on their playlist...they have everything else but that. Later, Swells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:52:48 -0500 From: SiD Subject: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Hey there folks I just joined the list for some quick information so I hope someone's online now. I saw Moby on Friday and I'm supposed to have a review filed with a paper tonight but I need some information. First concerning the setlist that I swiped it off a conga drum, is it a pretty safe bet that it's correct and they didn't change things up during the set? I mean I can't imagine the setlist changing much with all those sequences being set and all. Second what are the songs? Below is what is written on the paper and my guesses are afterwards in parenthesis... Mach 2 (?) Stop (?) Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score") Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play") Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others) Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep) Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others) Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong") Body (Bodyrock from "Play") Honey (Honey from "Play") Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong") So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album" that'd be grand. Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days. It is the same folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps. First person to tell me the line up can have the setlist if they want it. Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this. Thanks in advance, SiD - -- SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ "Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life is that?" -Pavement ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:04:38 EDT From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question i just thought i'd tell you, im online right now but i along with you hav eno clue. im sorry, man. later. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:32:48 -0600 From: Kyle L Yeates Subject: (mobility) Vegan/musician? In response to a question about being vegan/musicians/ect. i have been vegan for a while now. i guess it is how you define vegan. i am completely vegan in how i eat, to the point where i won't even eat anything that has mono-di glycerides in it unless i know their source, because those are often animal based. (a fun fact that a lot of my vegan/vegetarian friends didn't know.)still, i have a leather hat i wear that was given to me, but me being given an already dead cow product created no additional harm. i also wear silk shirts because i have this whole thing with insects not being real. i was also raised a vegetarian by my parents, so that is pretty neat. i do stuff musically, as well. i do industrial stuff mainly, which i find most enjoyable. i have a ton of vintage analog gear, which rocks: a classic moog, a mini moog, a roland tape ribbon space echo, and an ARP-AX, which is really clunky, among others. the moogs are my babies though. two weeks ago my guitarist tried and nearly succeeded to commit suicide, so any music plans are on hold right now. what was the other question? oh yeah. i'm 15 years old. i could go on, but not like this wasn't boring enough. just my two copper plated disks, though. peace and love. kyle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:53:09 -0400 From: "Raven" Subject: (mobility) hola! I'm wasn't sure what the toleration here was about introducing yourself, but since the welcome message prompted me to, here goes.....my name is Chris Doherty. My Moby collection is pretty piddly....I just bought the Bodyrock CD on a whim, and rather liked it! I also have a few odds and ends of his, like his remix for the Pumpkins (or at least, I *did* have it) and his song "Verb" off the Schoolhouse Rocks tribute. I've also heard some of his singles, but now I'm looking to get more into his stuff. So.....Any recommendations? I've heard some from friends of mine, but I'd like more. So far I've already ordered Play, and I plan to get EiW....what about Voodoo Child? I've heard the new one is very relaxing, but what exactly is it like? Is it just ambient, or ambient house (or whatever you call ambient music over dance beats)? I love the Bodyrock single, but I think my favorite track is the b-side Sunday. What songs/albums of his are like that? I'm really a sucker for that kind of thing...so that's what I'm most interested in. As for other artists......not a whole lot of techno: BT, this kinda obscure (but incredible!) ambient house project called Cloud2Ground, and bits and pieces of the Prodigy and other more mainstream techno groups. Oh, I've just developed a love for Meat Beat Manifesto!! As for other stuff....my favorite groups are The Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, this semi-indie band called Stavesacre (sort of like Tool but more emotional), the Cure, etc etc etc. Basically anything good that falls under the general headings of goth, industrial, rock......then, when my mood-thrashings (I don't just swing) call for it, I have an unhealthy fascination with swing, punk, ska, synthpop....hyper music! Another reason I love the Bodyrock single.... Ta ta, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:29:46 -0500 (CDT) From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) moby on the world cafe 9-8-99 yo fellow public radio listeners (i hope!), moby is going to be doing an interview on the radio show "the world cafe." if you don't know what this is, i don't have time to explain. just listen to it! hopefully you have a cool public radio station near you, but if not, you can listen to our station KUMD on wednesday from 2pm to 5pm central at www.kumd.org. he'll be on the 2pm hour and the 4pm hour. they always do good interviews, and they've been charting PLAY for a while. the world cafe is broadcast all over the u.s. so you SHOULD be able to find it somewhere. [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:56:07 -0500 From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? >How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? I've been an omnivore for 26 years now. >Any body a musician? I used to be. I DJ on the university's station, tho. >What about ages? 26. - -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:16:04 -0500 From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! >...hey a have a favour to ask, see i wuz listening to UNKLE in tha car with >my friend, and i mentioned that there was a wicked breakbeat in tha next >track, and he asked me what a breakbeat was, i couldn't understand that he >didn't no what it is, all i could say was, you're listening to it now, and >he still didn't get...so i ask you, how can one explain breakbeats in words, >no making fun of my friend now, it was an innocent question... Well, there are "four-on-the-floor" beats, which are fairly easy to understand. Break beats are syncopated -- they deviate and jump around the four beats but still keep in time. Confused? :) - -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:43:10 EDT From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! the slave thinx he is released from bondage, only to find a stronger set of chains.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:05:18 EDT From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question I saw Moby Friday, and I don't remember them playing Honey. Also, they played a few more songs then that I think.... email me if you want to talk more on Friday's show. :) Cree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:35:59 PDT From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question It's probably too late, but... >Mach 2 (?) >Stop (?) That's "Machete" & "Why Can't It Stop?". The rest are accurate. >Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score") >Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play") >Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others) >Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep) >Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others) >Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong") >Body (Bodyrock from "Play") >Honey (Honey from "Play") >Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong") > >So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E >in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album" >that'd be grand. > >Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days. It is the same >folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps. First person to tell >me the line up can have the setlist if they want it. > >Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you >folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this. > >Thanks in advance, > >SiD > >-- >SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ > >"Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not >scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life >is that?" -Pavement > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:50:03 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Zen diet and vegetarianism] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - - - --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <37D429D6.37659B76@dds.nl> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:53:42 +0200 From: but not _the_ frankz Organization: the Black Page X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobility Subject: Zen diet and vegetarianism Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay folks, a long quote, from: The Dictionary of Misinformation, Tom Burnam UK, 1978 Futura Publ. ltd. "Zen diet and vegetarianism. Many believers think that the Zen macrobiotic diet, which in its extreme form involves nothing but brown rice, is a safe way to adhere to the principles of vegetarianism. This is a dangerous myth, according to Dr. jean mayer, prof. of nutrition at Harvard. Dr. mayer makes it plain that he is not scoring vegertarianism in general - as long as it allows for sufficient variety to provide the proteins, vitamins and minerals we need. But the vegetarian who not only refuses to eat meat, but even draws the line at all animal by-products (milk and eggs, f.e.) as well as fish, and who refuses to supplement his or her diet by vitamin pills, because they are 'chemicals', is taking a very considerable risk, particularly with reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: 'Many individuals have insisted to me -sometimes with considerable anger- that they and their children have been on a total-vegetable diet for years, with no ill effects. But I repeat, the symptoms of B-12 deficiency take many years to show up. And once they do, they can't be reversed. Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe problem for nursing mothers; without ample calcium in their diet, they have to steal calcium from their own bones to make breast milk. And as in the case with B-12 deficiency, the resulting damage occurs slowly and may be entirely unsuspected until the latter years, when the victiim becomes highly susceptible to brittle bones and disabling fractures. Added to the burden of inadequate calcium may be the shortage of vitamine D, which is necesary if the body is to utilize what calcium it does get. All small children (except those who live in year-round sunny climates) need vitamin D supplements during the winter, and this is even more true of children on low calcium diets. They will not get sufficient Vitamin D if their vegetarianism prohibits them from having D-fortified milk, fish, liver oils (bweeeh!!! Kees) or vitamin supplements." [endquote] Please, all inform yo-self! (for pokey, for laura, for sara, for all of you) kees'99 - -- - --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 - --------------- - --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D-- ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V2 #114 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.