From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V2 #151 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Thursday, October 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 151 Re: (mobility) moby webcast Re: (mobility) Non Conformity? (NMR) (mobility) concert date? (mobility) moby on tv Re: (mobility) Non Conformity?..AND MOBY! (mobility) Non Conformity and the Moby God (mobility) runon Re: (mobility) concert date? Re: (mobility) moby on tv Re: (mobility) moby on tv (mobility) thoughts on WHAT LOVE (mobility) Funny whirring noise (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube... Re: (mobility) Funny whirring noise Re: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube... Re: (mobility) Hello!! (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see here (mobility) MOBY/PEARL JAM...ALBUMS OF ALL TIME... Re: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see her (mobility) Engage RE: (mobility) Engage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:32:29 EDT From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby webcast hey i'm sorry about that typo. (rollingstone.com) i don't know what happened about moby not being listed there, but go to channelseek.com -- they're responsible for doing the webcast. i'm pretty sure they have him listed. - -tina tecknomonk@aol.com | djcake.cjb.net "I feel driven to make beautiful, emotional music... or sexy music. I feel driven to make music that's effective. I feel driven to try to understand things better. I feel driven to connect with people... to communicate with them." -Moby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:34:23 EDT From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Non Conformity? (NMR) I think there are too many levels of comformity going all at once, no matter what social group or class or age or gender or belief you are a part of. So I think it's inescapable. There's the vision of the wife & 2.3 kids and the fence and all that as being a way to comform, but who does that and sticks to it? With the gay/lesbian population, divorce rate etc etc, not many. The norm (and maybe the way to comform now) is something else, actually many different choices. So either way you chose, you're gonna comform to something. And the same goes for the example of the poor people having no choice but to comform. I was poor all during my childhood. I was totally non-comformist to all the rich kids who were comforming to the trends (like I wanted to be at the time), but I comformed to the other poorer kids and their views and preferences. I agree that the best thing to do for yourself, and the toughest is to believe what you believe, all the while knowing why you do whether it agrees with anyone or not, and doubt what you doubt and admit that you don't know tons of stuff. It's so hard to define things for yourself when all during your formative years you get your information from other sources outside yourself, often valuing the authority of the person telling you what they believe and in some cases acting as an example. And it seems to me that it's impossible to be yourself completely, humans being social animals and all. We're always going to try to please someone other than ourselves at some point because that, in a round about way, pleases ourselves and our egos. I hope I made some sense and sorry for keeping the topic alive - like Kimby says: "don't kill me" Love & salsa, malfunctiongirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:03:42 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: (mobility) concert date? I don't live in NYC, but maybe this could be helpful for some of you: My friend emailed me this bit of info: I think Moby is spinning here in nyc on October 10 at a party called BOO! but from what I hear the people who throw this party never organize things well and they always get shut down or they turn people away... A 35 dollar ticket is a bit steep for me to take a chance on. QED ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:08:40 EDT From: UHF@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby on tv was watching dawson's creek today and what do i hear but bodyrock. just thought i'd let you know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:45:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Non Conformity?..AND MOBY! Non-conformity CAN be done, depending on what you want to conform to or not, as the case may be. I never said blanket conformity/non-conformity, was possible. I was referring to a specific topic. I didn't think there was a need to be so pedantic about it! So, if the norm was to jump off cliffs by the time you're 30 because corporate America or the European Union told you to, because it would benefit big corporations and governments and fuck everyone else up, would you conform? I don't think so, unless you are totally brainwashed! TMB On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:47:28 -0600 dale wrote: > non confomity. blah. it cant be done. someone else, some other group, some > culture already lived or is living what youre living now. someone out there > likes the same music/food/ideas/fun things as you do. hating trendy stuff > is trendy. theres no point in wasting your time trying to fight corporate > america. there isnt some big conspiracy against the individuals of america, > otherwise, why would they push individualism in advertisments, blah blah. > people like to make money, and some people dont like the ways others choose > to make it, mostly because they are jealous, no matter how much they deny > it. just ebcause you think for yourself doesnt mean you cant SHARE ideas > and beliefs with other people. if you dont want to be a 'subserviant of > corporate america', move to canada. }:P> they have better health care > anyway. > P.L.U.R. sums it up quite a bit, i think. > -dale- > > > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 22:43:19 +1300 From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Non Conformity and the Moby God I don't believe in God or Gods. What I meant about Moby being a God was just an exaggeration ( a hyperboly if you will). Since I don't believe in God/s then It would mean in my mind that I think Moby makes me feel absolutely powerful, and The charge I get when hearing his harmonic tunes is sadly missed by most of the world. One day however it is my belief he will become recognised for the Genius he is. Did I clear that up, oh well Non-Conformity. Who the fuck cares what group you hang out with, if you go down the street wearing Tommy Shit then you don't have the same taste as me. You are still a cool person (maybe) i don't know. It is wrong to judge but everybody does it. EVERBODY has a first glance and makes up their mind. It is natural. I don't really conform to one group as I see it. I like every kind of musik, I surf, but I don't Skate, I play Rugby and I study economics, I have surfie friends and I have Football friends. Basically I'm a friendly guy, BUT I admit that it is impossible not to conform, as stated (I think) in Malfunction Girls email. Everything we do has been done, are we copying? Bye Bye Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) runon > >Im going with aisle > > The only problem is you don't sit in the aisle. You > walk in the aisle. (?) > i hear "sit in the fire" > >"let the rammle and the gammle and backsliders, > tell em god almighty's > >gonna put ya down."--? > > I think it's "tell the gamblin' the ramblin' > backslider / tell 'em God > almighty gonna cut 'im down." gamblin AND ramblin "i'm a rambler and a gambler and i guessi always will...." FUTURAMA CHARACTER OF THE DAY: BENDER (Moby's favorite!) ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:27:27 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) concert date? they usually have this party during this time....i thought it was always on halloween but i could be mistaken, last year i believe it was held at roseland..i don't know...elie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:54 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on tv dawson's creek is a real entertaining show...very unrealistic but entertaining (cant wait to get flamed for this (:o))...all of a sudden i hear bodyrock playing and bam!!! i call my friend and tell him...i thought it was nice to hear moby's song...elie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:47:57 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on tv I've never seen it. My partner likes it a lot, but then he's a typical queen! I'll have to ask him if he can hear Moby's tune playing. I'm slowly converting him, I think? TMB On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:54 EDT Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > dawson's creek is a real entertaining show...very unrealistic but > entertaining > (cant wait to get flamed for this (:o))...all of a sudden i hear bodyrock > playing and bam!!! i call my friend and tell him...i thought it was nice to > hear moby's song...elie > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:54:58 -0400 From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) thoughts on WHAT LOVE ok dug out my ETIW cd today. and i was reminded again from moby's WHAT LOVE, something i've always wondered. Has anyone heard what his thoughts were on this song? Does anyone think that the beginning sorta slow acoustic part was like a parody of all the rock bands out at that time? I dont know, moby's voice there first off doesnt sound like his other songs, and then right before the chaos of that song kicks in, he says "u know what im sayin" when i first bought this album, like 3-4 years ago i always imagined it was moby making fun of pearl jam for that section of the song :) anyone?? Eric gold@netrox.net http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:17:54 -0400 From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Funny whirring noise I was listening to Play this morning and notice a weird thing...at the beginning of both "The Sky is Broken" and "If Things Were Perfect", there is a funny whirring noise at the beginning of the song(s). Anyone know what this is? Maybe Moby himself can answer that one. Also, it's kind of cool how during "The Sky is Broken" you can hear the page being turned when he's reading off the lyrics. Back to work now... Joe NP -- Air - Premiers Symptomes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:57:35 PDT From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube... sup, someone asked if someone could put together some Moby footage from TV, well my friend has made a video tape for me of Moby stuff, videos, interviews and live performances, i would be glad to send anyone this tape, i would also like to obtain other interviews, vidoes, and live performances from around the world...i live in Ontario, Canada, and Moby's got pretty good TV time here, so if anyone's interested we should combine all our stuff and perhaps make the Ultimate Moby fan package Video, that would be very kewl!!!so here's what i have right now... Videos: Moby Spotlight (litlle interview clips included) -Go, Move, Next is The E, Revolver(it's Over mix), James Bond, Bodyrock x2, ETYTM. Moby interview live at Electric Circus ('95) Moby interview day after T.O. concert ('99) (with live footage clips) Moby interview at MTV Video Awards ('99) (they get in trouble during the interview) Moby interview in his studio (Animal Rights Period) (may have lost this one?!?!?) peace and luv djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Shaun David Rader Subject: Re: (mobility) Funny whirring noise I always thought these were the demo type tracks he included on the cd and that the whirring is like the drum machine he used, the microphone or the recording equipment he used. Just my thoughts on it. Shaun On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Novotny, Joe wrote: >beginning of both "The Sky is Broken" and "If Things Were Perfect", there is >a funny whirring noise at the beginning of the song(s). Anyone know what ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:08:26 PDT From: "courtney colonna" Subject: Re: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube... that was me who wanted moby stuff from tv. could i get a copy of the tape you have?? let me know. thanks! courtney >From: "trance former" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) taping Moby on the Idiot Tube... >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:57:35 PDT > >sup, > >someone asked if someone could put together some Moby footage from TV, well >my friend has made a video tape for me of Moby stuff, videos, interviews >and >live performances, i would be glad to send anyone this tape, i would also >like to obtain other interviews, vidoes, and live performances from around >the world...i live in Ontario, Canada, and Moby's got pretty good TV time >here, so if anyone's interested we should combine all our stuff and perhaps >make the Ultimate Moby fan package Video, that would be very kewl!!!so >here's what i have right now... > >Videos: Moby Spotlight (litlle interview clips included) > -Go, Move, Next is The E, Revolver(it's Over mix), James Bond, > Bodyrock x2, ETYTM. > > Moby interview live at Electric Circus ('95) > > Moby interview day after T.O. concert ('99) > (with live footage clips) > > Moby interview at MTV Video Awards ('99) > (they get in trouble during the interview) > > Moby interview in his studio (Animal Rights Period) > (may have lost this one?!?!?) > >peace and luv > >djAHIMSA > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:12:27 +0200 From: "Mette Rogstad" Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!! Sorry, i do not understand the message below. If it has something to do with the fact that i enganged in a norwegian conversation that noone but me and the other party understood, i appologize :) Mette >Perdona, pero no hemos entendido ni una palabra de lo que >has dicho en este mensaje. ;-) > >> ~Selvsagt er du unskyldt!!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:36:22 -0700 From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see here > >I've never seen it. My partner likes it a lot, but then > >he's a typical queen! I'll have to ask him if he can hear > >Moby's tune playing. I'm slowly converting him, I think? > Geez kids, whatever happened to watching Melrose Place and Bev Hills 90210? At least those shows have a sense of betrayal and hatred about them. Isn't Dawson's Creek generally a teenage girl show? I've seen a lot about it in girls mags. Oh well, do what cha do do what cha do. BTW: I'm being silly. - --kimby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:41:43 -0700 From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) MOBY/PEARL JAM...ALBUMS OF ALL TIME... > > >when i first bought this album, like 3-4 years ago i > >always imagined it was moby making fun of pearl jam for > >that section of the song :) > >anyone?? > NO, please say it ain't so?! I'm a huge PJ fan, well, at least of their pre-no code days. Ten is like so up there w/ the greatest albums of all time! I'd have to say, for me at least it's something like this (but in no real order): TEN Little Earthquakes End of Everything/Ambiant Violator Every Tool Album Pretty Hate Machine/Purest Feeling Morrissey (self titled!!) I can't think of anything else. What does everyone else think? Any one agree w/ any of those. I know there are more really quality albums but those are a few of my top, top faves. Maybe throw some Annie Lennox in there, some more DM, some Smiths... > - --kimby > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:12:02 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Unrelated...Dawson's Creek..Nothing to see her if dawson's creek is a "teenage girl show" , i'm going to assume that i am a 21 year old male, that happens to like the show but is a bit confused about his sexuality...it's entertaining, unreal, and a good show to procrastinate to....it played Moby's song in it and that is it....21 DAYS TILL MOBY IN NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:23:35 -0400 From: "Russell, Shera" Subject: (mobility) Engage This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF1101.D7D0BAA4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Myself and a bunch of friends are going to Engage on 11/27 in DC. 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