From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #264 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, July 25 2000 Volume 03 : Number 264 Re: (mobility) Fwd: New Moby album on the way RE: (mobility) Fwd: New Moby album on the way (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? Re: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? (mobility) just to clear something up... Re: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality RE: (mobility) Moby in Auckland NZ. Thursday July 20 2000 Re: (mobility) His Middle Name IS Melleville Re: (mobility) Moby and Spirituality Re: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? (mobility) moby included in flash 5 demo (mobility) moby in flash 5 demo, addition RE: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality Re: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:38:58 +0100 From: "Mark Reed" Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: New Moby album on the way Indeed it is. The ill thought out piece of crap it is.. I'm afraid, and smacks of crass exploitation without any care or love for the art in it. I made my own Mobysongs CD last night :And much better it is too. Spanning the whole gamut of Moby's styles and work over the past decade, bar some of the unmemorable early Instrinct era stuff. So here we have it : 01 My Weakness 02 That's When I Reach For My Revolver (single version) 03 Every time You Touch Me (fucked up version) 04 Every time You Touch Me (original version) 05 Feeling So Real (single version) 06 Honey (moby 118 remix) 07 James Bond Theme 08 Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (single version) 09 Porcelain (radio mix) 10 Run On 11 Come On Baby (single version) 12 All That I Need Is To Be Loved (m v version) 13.Someone To Love 14 Bodyrock (single version) 15 I Feel It (single version) 16 Hymn (this is my dream) 17 Move (you make me feel so good) 18 Bring Back My Happiness (extended mix) 19 Go (single version) 20 Natural Blues (single version) 21 Flying Foxes (single b-side) 22 Into The Blue (beatmasters mix) 23.A Season In Hell (little idiot version) realistically, I just went for a mix of styles in an order that sort of made sense and covered most styles and moods the Mobester can provide. Sounds mcuh better than the nosebleed happy hardcore slant of the Mobysongs comp, which doesn't even have anything from Anuimal Rights, not even one of teh ravey remixes fo "Revolver". - ----- Original Message ----- From: courtney colonna To: Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: (mobility) Fwd: New Moby album on the way > i haven't looked at this yet, but my guess is that it's about that moby > songs album. > > courtney - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:49:32 -0400 From: Tim Ellorin Subject: RE: (mobility) Fwd: New Moby album on the way > Indeed it is. The ill thought out piece of crap it is.. I'm > afraid, and > smacks of crass exploitation without any care or love for the > art in it. > Sounds like one very satisfied customer! I have always thought that "Best Of" CD's were just another way to make more money off of the same music. And who is the person who decides that this is the "Best Of" that artists material? I normally try to stay away from "Best Of" types of CD's eventhough I do have the MobySongs CD and I happen to like it. "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin Tim - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:52:27 GMT From: "jane quirke" Subject: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? has anyone heard any news on the forthcoming north american tour for Moby!!????? i might be going over to see him with my friend out there.............i'm hoping he plays near her uni (penn state) otherwise it's an 8 hour bus journey to NYC!!!!!!!!!!! i must be mad going all the way over to the states to see him, but after V2000 i won't get to see him for ages so i'll have to go to him!!!!!!!! jane xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:27:39 EDT From: "courtney colonna" Subject: Re: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? pollstar (www.pollstar.com) doesn't list any dates past aug 26th (ireland). although i wouldn't complain if moby made his way back to pittsburgh, i'd find it strange if he hit the same cities as last fall and during the campus invasion tour. maybe the only thing left is the "cities with weird names" tour that was previously suggested here! :) courtney who is practicing some serious work avoidance here at the office >From: "jane quirke" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:52:27 GMT > >has anyone heard any news on the forthcoming north american tour for >Moby!!????? i might be going over to see him with my friend out >there.............i'm hoping he plays near her uni (penn state) otherwise >it's an 8 hour bus journey to NYC!!!!!!!!!!! i must be mad going all the >way over to the states to see him, but after V2000 i won't get to see him >for ages so i'll have to go to him!!!!!!!! > >jane xxx >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) just to clear something up... no, the Moby Pink Pop concert as broadcast on MTV was not actually an episode of AMP. that show has not been on for months and I am pissed. It's not the best, but it beats the crap out of Britney Backstreet and Tom Fucking Green. anyway, the show just coincidentally had the same time slot AMP had before. wow. after that MTV showed a half hour Foo Fighters show, then a half hour NIN show. Moby got a full hour, and the others got half that! yay! If only MTV would show an hour of Moby EVERY day, during daytime. of course, MTV still has yet to pu Sifl & Olly back on, which totally keeps me pissed. but anyway, the revolution wil not be televised (that's irrelevant here I think but I just like saying it), DJ PAUL ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:40:37 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality > I would hazard to say that the teachings of > Christ in no way endorse the abuse or > discrimination agaist homosexuals, or any other > minority. Attitudes that cause that abuse and > discrimination are present in many christians, > and are often propogated in his name. Unfortunately its not as clear cut an issue as you make it seem. When the pharasies challenged Jesus by stating he was a heretic and not following the old covenent with God, he said no, "I'm sent here to make them true". In otherwords, for christians the old testiment/Torah teachings are just as valid as the new covenenet set down by Christ, the only difference being that the new covenenet covers ALL gentiles who are willing to accept Jesus, not just the jews(note this is christian doctrine, NOT my personal beliefs). As such the old testiment is just as valid in christianity, thus passages about sexual promoscuity, especially those specifically refering to homosexuality between men(Leviticus) still ring "true". In fact the bible goes so far as to command followers to put homosexuals to death, it is an "abomination, their blood is upon them. ALL sects of christianity, with a few INDIVIDUAL exceptions recognize homosexual ACTS as sin. Given the inconsistencies in christian docterine AND especially source material (ie the bible), these hate mongers are actually justified in what they are doing. Shakespeare once said that the devil himself may quote the bible for his own ends. This alone is good enough a reason to reject the christian religion and its morality. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:29:53 MDT From: "Kimberly Best" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Auckland NZ. Thursday July 20 2000 No problem. You had me scared there. I had to check it out myself again to make sure I wasn't crazy. Tim >>>You're crazy?! ::laughs:: No, I think that would have to be my >>>department.:) I'm just glad that you understood that I made an oopsy, and >>>that I was sorry for that. Adios, Kim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:32:08 MDT From: "Kimberly Best" Subject: Re: (mobility) His Middle Name IS Melleville > Moby Dick was written by Herman Melville. Moby > says that he is a descendant > of the Herman Melville. > >>>Where did you read that at? I'm just > wondering, because I was checking > >>>out another website and it stated that the > reason why Moby was nicknamed > >>>Moby is because his friends used to tease > him in high school about his > >>>middle name, which if memory serves me > right, is Melville or something > >>>like that. You can never know what is on the > internet these days... So, it comes down to this.... Moby has become so popular that newbie fans don't even know the most over publicised non-musical fact about Moby: that he is the grad-grand-etc. nephew of Herman Melleville, the author of Moby Dick, and that the book is also the sourch of Moby's stage name. His middle name, however, is Melleville. Of course, I can't fault kimberly too much of her lack of Moby minutae. She wasn't even fully aware that Melleville wrote Moby Dick. What was that someone was saying about another list..... ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises >>>I do need to get back to my Moby-fandonism. I just like the music, not >>>the man himself. That is why I joined this little deal. But, you don't >>>have to be so rude about it. Kim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:48:02 MDT From: "Kimberly Best" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and Spirituality WEll, guys, I hate to break it to you, but I'm wiccan and I just got a calling from my bishop (I'm supposed to be LDS) so, I am the new President of the Women's section of the Young Single Adults in my area. Isn't that really weird? Have we got any X-Files fans in here? Just wondering. My birthday was also yesterday, so I'm officially 19 years old and am going to go see the new "X-men" movie. I'll tell you guys all about it after this week. Kim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:50:10 MDT From: "Kimberly Best" Subject: Re: (mobility) US tour dates anyone!!!????? I haven't heard anything, but if I do, you'll be the first to know. Kim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: scott stoddard Subject: (mobility) moby included in flash 5 demo I'm a big flash user and I was looking through the new flash 5 demo on the macromedia site when i came across a small little mention of the moby james bond theme as an object in the timeline for a sample bmw site. Obscure obscure I know, but I thought it was cool that he got in the back door of the flash 5 announcement. here's the site: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/ rubba shak mon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:11:40 -0700 (PDT) From: scott stoddard Subject: (mobility) moby in flash 5 demo, addition sorry, the site above only gets you to the index, moby is in the "asset amnagement page" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:25:31 -0400 From: Tim Ellorin Subject: RE: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality To state that the bible tells people to kill other people is incorrect. Maybe you have forgotten all about the TEN COMMANDMENTS? Thou Shall Not Kill. That sounds vaguely familiar. And if that is not enough then the bible also states that doing something in the name of God that is contrary to Man's law is a sin also. Since murder is against man's law, christians and everyone else are not allowed to do this, even in God's name if they wanted to. Somehow I think people seem to want to forget what I would believe to be the most important lesson to be learned from the bible. LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Why can't we all just get along. I am not saying that the bible is faultless. But normally I fault the person who takes a passage out of context to use it to their advantage. Take Psalm 137 verse 9 "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones". So I could say that the Bible says I can take children and smash them on rocks. I guess what I am trying to say is to beware of people who in the name of God do something that seems very unholy, because most likely they have missed the meaning of what Jesus in the way he lived his life and the bible in what it states are trying to tell us. By the way, I am a Christian, meaning that I believe Jesus to be my savior, but I do not believe in any one religion. How can anyone or any church claim to know the TRUE will of God. How arrogant does one have to be to think he knows TRUE will of God. I live my life as I believe to be right. But for all I know, I could be wrong. I try to treat others as I would have them treat me. As far as Moby influencing me on Christianity. I like to hear other people's view on religion. I am very curious to see how my views compare to the views of others. And maybe if the other person shows the error in my belief I will change. Sorry if this is long and doesn't make any sense. Tim - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Caviness Subject: Re: (mobility) Speaking of JESUS.. & homosexuality - --- Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: > Unfortunately its not as clear cut an issue as > you make it seem. When the > pharasies challenged Jesus by stating he was a > heretic and not following the > old covenent with God, he said no, "I'm sent > here to make them true". In > otherwords, for christians the old > testiment/Torah teachings are just as > valid as the new covenenet set down by Christ, > the only difference being > that the new covenenet covers ALL gentiles who > are willing to accept Jesus. > By that translation, Chris, you are saying that not only is it moral and justified to stone homosexuals, but also to sell your children into slavery, kill animals for religious purposes, and immoral to eat shellfish, wear clothing of mixed fabrics (cotton/polyester, for example) or have sex with your wife while she is menstrating. No, the accurate translation is that christ came not to do away with the law, but to FULFILL it. To give it purpose. As a way of explanation, the apostle Paul said, that the law has ALWAYS, in old and new testament times, existed solely to make us aware of sin which separates us from God. It's not a case that without the law, there would be no sin. But as the battle between the spirit and the flesh can disrupt a person's relationship to the Creator, these written standards exist to help us refine that relationship. As to your specific mention of homosexuality. Those old testament passages refer most specifically to forms of pagan worship that involved the practice of homosexual sex between heterosexual partners. Not to any form of homosexual relationship that exists in modern society. Personally, I don't think homosexuality is a sin. That may have something to do with me being gay. But I think most of the Church's opposition to homosexuality has more to do with their own hang-ups on sex, and less to do with proper doctrine. Because of the teachings of Christ (who never once mentioned homosexuality, but who did heal the beloved *pais*, or young servant kept for sexual purposes, of a Roman Centurion) I know that having a relationship with a man will not prevent me from being able to recognize the influence of the Creator in my life - -- but I also know that seeking out sex without committment is dangerous physically and emotionally, and is a selfish act, unconcerned with meeting my fellow man's need (well maybe one fellow man). Too many people see Christianity as a rewards based system. Be good and you'll get heaven in the end. Have fun and you'll go to hell. You don't pass a test to get in... you get in because you WANT to be there. Conversely, the people in wind up separated from God, do so because they choose to be there as well. In his book *The Great Divorce*, CS Lewis (who is probably the greatest theologian of the 20th Century) said that Paradise to a selfish soul would seem hellish. Simple selflessness as a rule would be anathema to them. Mansions and jewels and power are meaningless when the real "reward" is unity with the Creator and freedom from the troubles of this world. All of the enduring major religions of the world, buddhism, hinduism, judaism, christianity, islam, all have as a basic tenet that denial of self is the beginning of spirituality. And that is the major focus of any religion: being a part of something that is bigger than yourself. This long, and rambling, and seemingly proseletyzing. My intent is not to argue with anyone, but fully explain the way I understand things. > Shakespeare once said that the devil > himself may quote the bible for > his own ends. This alone is good enough a > reason to reject the christian > religion and its morality. > St. Luke, St. Peter, and Martin Luther also used this line first. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing." - - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #264 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.