From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #293 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Monday, August 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 293 Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG Re: (mobility) and your drug of choice is....? (mobility) Goin to see Moby/new Re: (mobility) Tracklisting Play Interview CD /Moby book Re: (mobility) Goin to see Moby/new Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll RE: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll (mobility) [moby+shirley:want.to.touch.the.hiney] (mobility) Two words: FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:10:25 +0200 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG >ahh.. I feel guilty about doing this, esp. since I'm new to the mailing >list. But I'm in the middle of putting up a fanpage right now: > >http://www.crosswinds.net/~roywilkie/moby Why feel guilty? This is completely Moby related... Were else would you find people who might want to visit your site? Also, I have this thing of snooping around people's HTML code.. :) (sorry, I can't help it. If I see something nice I gotta know the source) You must be in *desperate* need of some visitors! :) But keep up the good work! I really like the site design, very professional looking. Also, the site is very browser & resolution friendly. and now my shameless plug: http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/ (which needs updating badly, I know...) Bart (<>,,<>) - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:07:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Logue Subject: Re: (mobility) and your drug of choice is....? So sorry guys. I meant to reply to this person only. I apologize for this.................. - --- Danielle Logue wrote: > excellent points. Here is parts of the Time > article: > Here's the info I know from my nursing classes and > from TIME magazine. > > "..although MDMA is more toxic than, say, the > cactus-based psychadelic mescaline, it would take a > big dose of e, somethinglike 14 of today's purest > pills ingested at once, to kill you. It doesn't mean > ecstasy is harmless. Broadly speaking, there are > two > dangers: first, a pill you assume to be MDMA could > actually contain something else. Anecdotal evidence > suggests that most serious short-term medical > problems > that arise from 'ecstasy' are actually caused by > pills > adulterated with other more harmful substances. > Second, MDMA itself might do harm. There's > long-standing debate about MDMA's dangers. the > theory > is that its perils spring from the same > neurochemical > reaction that causes its pleasures. After MDMA > enters > the bloodstream, it aims with laser-like precision > at > the brain cells that release serotonin, a chemical > that is the body's primary regulator of mood. MDMA > causes these cells to disgorge their contents and > flood the brain with serotonin. But forcibly > catapulting serotonin levels could be risky. Of > course, millions of people manipulate serotonin when > they take prozac. But ecstasy actually shoves > serotonin from its storage sites, according to Dr. > John Morgan, a professor of pharmacology at the City > University of New York. Prozac just prevents the > serotonin that's already been naturally secreted > from > being taken back up into brain cells. Normally, > serotonin levels are exquisitely maintained, which > is > crucial because the chemical helps manage not only > mood but also body temperature. In fact, > overheating > is MDMA's worst short-term danger. Flushing the > system with serotonin, particularly when users take > several pills over the course of one night, can > short-circuit the body's ability to control its > temperature. Dancing in close quarters doesn't > help, > and because some novice users don't know to drink > water, e users' temperatures can climb as high as 43 > degrees. (That must be a typo). At such extremes, > the blood starts to coagulate. In the past two > decades, dozens of users around the world have died > this way. There are long-term dangers too. By > forcing serotonin out, MDMA resculpts the brain > cells > that release the chemical. the changes to these > cells > could be permanent. Johns Hopkins neurotoxicologist > Georbge Ricaurte has shown that serotonin levels are > significantly lower in animals that have been given > about the same amount of MDMA as you would fin in > just > one ecstasy pill. In 1998 emergency rooms > participating in the Drug Abuse Warning Network > reported receiving 1,135 mentions of ecstasy during > admissions...In european hotspots,..20 people are > rushed to hospitals each weekend because of > excessive > heat, alcohol and e. The two most common > short-term > side effects of MDMA both of which remain rare in > the > aggregate are overheating and something harder to > quanitify, psychological trauma. A few users have > mentally broken down on ecstasy, unprepared for its > powerful psychological effects. A schoolteacher in > San Francisco who took ecstasy a year ago began to > revcall, in horrible detail an episode of sexual > abuse. she became severely depressed for three > months > and had to seek psychiatric treatment. Others have > suffered physical trauma. Melanie, a 19 year old > from > Switzerland, unknowingly consumed a drink spiked > with > ecstasy last summer at a club in Spain. She woke up > in the hospital. ecstasy's aftermath can also > include > a depressive hangover, a down day that users > sometimes > call Terrible Tuiesdays. Another downside, because > users feel empathetic, ecstasy can lower sexual > inhibitions. Men generally cannot get erections > when > high on e, but they are often ferociaously randy > when > its effects begin to fade. Dr. Robert Klitzman, a > psychiatrist at columbia University, has found that > men in NYC who use ecstasy are 2.8 times more likely > to have unprotected sex. " > How Ecstasy Affects the Brain > 1. Ecstasy primarily affects nerve cells that > produce > serotonin, one of several brain ch3micals that > transmit signals from one nerve to the next. > Serotonin neurons originate in teh raphe nucleas, > near > the base of the brain and, with long, threalike > extensions known as axons reach more distant > regions. > Releaxe of serotonin by these nerve cells may be > responsible for feelings o empathy and bliss and > perceived insight. > > 2. Axons can stratch to as much as 1ft. long. > Normally, serotonin is released when an electrical > signal travels from teh cell body down the axon. > serotonin is stored in tiny vesibles clustered at > the > ends of these axons and is deposited into a small > gap > called the synapse. > > 3. the signal causes the filled vesicles to release > serotonin into the synapse. some of it is absorbed > by > receptors on the adjacent neruson and continues to > propagate the electrical signal. the rest is broken > down by enzymes or reabsorbed by the releasing > neurson. > > 4. Ecstasy causes the nerve cells to release all > the > stored serotonin at once, even without an electrical > signal. The chemical floods the synapse, > overwhelming > the serotonin from being reabsorbed, further > increasing the concentration in the synapse. > > 5. The rush of serotonin may cause damage to the > ends > of axons. Most studies suggest that nerve endings > die > off but some indicate that they may grow back, > although abnormally. These axons may return in > denser > formation, and may no longer reach the areas of the > brain in which they are needed." > > The other thing I've learned from nursing is the > body's inability to control it's temperture. It is > important to keep drinking water all night long. > Your > head or your brain or whatever will not swell. what > happens is the water goes in and to cool your body > off, sweats this water. The sweat evaporates off > your > skin thus producing a cooling sensation which brings > your temperature down. This doesn't exactly happen > with ecstasy, so you must keep drinking water to > keep > your temperature at a level your body can handle > (even > though you will be clinically running a fever). I > hope this helps. > Also, I commented on something you said below. > d > > --- Sarah McMullan > wrote: > > > > > #2 - Brain swelling caused by overabsorption of > > fluid into the cells. > > Changes in seratonin can cause a dry mouth. (It's > a > > common side effect of > > anti depressants)Most people know not to combine > > drugs or take alcohol too. > > Often people stick to water which is great and teh > > recommended practise but > > only when aware that too much water can cause the > > brain to swell. > > This is not true. Brain swelling is caused by > trauma > only. Hydroencephaly, or Encephalitis are caused > not > by water, but by cerebrospinalfluid. Water would > just > sweat right out and evaporate trying to cool your > body > down. In fact, if you are taking ecstasy you > should > drink as much water as you can comfortably. Under > the > circumstances, there is no such thing as too much. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:20:31 -0700 From: Laura Throp Subject: (mobility) Goin to see Moby/new > Hey all. I've been on this list for about a month now but this is my f= irst post. Hurray! hehe. Anyways, I just got tickets to see Moby here in = Phoenix and I was wondering about his show, for any of you who have seen = him live > before. In a way I'm hoping I'm not disappointed. Does he do like other= techno artists and just stand behind his equipment or does he actually g= et out in front, etc? I hope it's the later. I"m happy I got tixs but th= ey are > general admission. Sucks big time. Hope I don't get trampled or somethi= ng like that Pearl Jam concert. Anyways, I only recently became a fan of Moby. I knew some of his work fr= om the Saint and the Beach soundtracks. My friend got the Play Cd and let= me listen to it. I was immediatly hoooked on this amazing guy! Wow. I've= now gone back and bought quite a few of his early albums and I love those too. Jus= t thought I'd finally come out of lurking!! - -- "Do you know, I always thought unicorns were fabulous monsters, too? I never saw one alive before!" "Well, now that we have seen each other," said the Unicorn, "if you believe in me, I'll believe in you." - -From Through the Looking Glass, by Lewis Carroll, 1946 =93Lose yourself in no one=92s life Trapped in nowhere=92s empty light. Words like fists that tear you down Crash before we hit the ground.=94 - -Goo Goo Dolls, =93Lazy Eye=94 - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:07:09 EDT From: "ambient SlunK" Subject: Re: (mobility) Tracklisting Play Interview CD /Moby book the book is called Moby:rock the body, its out now, but most book stores dont have it, ya gotta order it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:15:53 GMT From: "jane quirke" Subject: Re: (mobility) Goin to see Moby/new moby runs around the stage like a man possessed!!!!!!! he is soooo cool live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just wish i could use up some of that energy he has with him....................... jane xxx >From: Laura Throp >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) Goin to see Moby/new >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:20:31 -0700 > > > > > > Hey all. I've been on this list for about a month now but this is my >first post. Hurray! hehe. Anyways, I just got tickets to see Moby here in >Phoenix and I was wondering about his show, for any of you who have seen >him live > > before. In a way I'm hoping I'm not disappointed. Does he do like other >techno artists and just stand behind his equipment or does he actually get >out in front, etc? I hope it's the later. I"m happy I got tixs but they >are > > general admission. Sucks big time. Hope I don't get trampled or >something like that Pearl Jam concert. > >Anyways, I only recently became a fan of Moby. I knew some of his work from >the Saint and the Beach soundtracks. My friend got the Play Cd and let me >listen to it. I was immediatly hoooked on this amazing guy! Wow. I've now >gone >back and bought quite a few of his early albums and I love those too. Just >thought I'd finally come out of lurking!! > > >-- >"Do you know, I always thought unicorns were >fabulous monsters, too? I never saw one alive before!" >"Well, now that we have seen each other," said the Unicorn, >"if you believe in me, I'll believe in you." >-From Through the Looking Glass, by Lewis Carroll, 1946 > > >“Lose yourself in no one’s life >Trapped in nowhere’s empty light. >Words like fists that tear you down >Crash before we hit the ground.” >-Goo Goo Dolls, “Lazy Eye” > > > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:59:47 -0700 From: "Sara Musko" Subject: Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll <list. But I'm in the middle of putting up a fanpage right now: > >http://www.crosswinds.net/~roywilkie/moby>> <> Yeah I agree. It was an appropriate post. Nice page man. I love fanpages. Moby doesn't have too many fanpages. Especially if you compare him to someone like Bjork who has hundreds. So the more the better. And whoever had the Lewis Carroll quote, you kick ass! I'm kinda obsessed. I have a pretty big Alice collection. The one thing I really want is an Alice in Wonderland metal lunchbox since I also collect lunchboxes, it would be damn expensive though. I just read this edition of The Hunting of the Snark which included really interesting commentaries by Martin Gardner. One of the most interesting things I've ever read. Anway, hope that didn't sound creepy. - -Sara Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:16:00 -0700 From: "Rob Skipworth" Subject: Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll For all of you audio gear heads out there... i ran across a page today that goes into detail about moby's studio setup. So if you're interested in his Spirit 24:8:2 board or about his synth patches, then head to http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb00/articles/tracks.htm Since i'm in the middle of a class for MIDI I completely enjoyed this article. If its been posted before..... my bad ALSO... does anyone know of a place BESIDES moby.org to find midi versions of moby tracks???? Specifically porcelain. thanks for any help! rob "rob skipworth" skipworth - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:26:50 -0700 From: "chris" Subject: RE: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll cool thanks a lot.. I am taking MIDI I this semester... sucks cause the audio and harmony students are lumped together but oh well. lateR chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rob Skipworth Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 9:16 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) SHAMELESS PLUG and OT: Lewis Carroll For all of you audio gear heads out there... i ran across a page today that goes into detail about moby's studio setup. So if you're interested in his Spirit 24:8:2 board or about his synth patches, then head to http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb00/articles/tracks.htm Since i'm in the middle of a class for MIDI I completely enjoyed this article. If its been posted before..... my bad ALSO... does anyone know of a place BESIDES moby.org to find midi versions of moby tracks???? Specifically porcelain. thanks for any help! rob "rob skipworth" skipworth - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:38:38 EDT From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) [moby+shirley:want.to.touch.the.hiney] a lil outtake of shiley mansons online diary [ garbage.com ] Wednesday 8th I'm totally bummed-out this afternoon because I was invited to sing with Moby but due to some little legal wrangles of mine, I am unable to. I am CRUSHED. Why is it that you just can't have anything nice?!?!?!?!?!?!! also over at subhuman.net theres a ton of pics of moby and shil at the grammys [ want to touch the hiney. just one time. ] - -jason , the coconut pokemon n . p . mira calix . oneonone www.mp3.com/wilt [snake!:underworld.king.of.snake:fan.rmxs] www.idrive.com/kosrmx1/files/shared/ www.idrive.com/kosrmx2/files/shared/ just because a cat has her kittens in the oven doesn’t make them biscuits ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) Two words: FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!! > > TyNNkRBel...everyone wonders bout mah name! ACK! dat freaky spellig thing. with the capitals n stuf. whatever. rock on. > I remember Moby saying somewhere that if he could, > he would take Lisa Simpson and make her 20 years > older and human. I think he has a crush on Lisa > Simpson ;) except that she's 8... OH MY GOD! Lisa Simpson rules so much. I think if there was an actual Lisa Simpson like her, the world would be a much better place. Lisa is such an amazing character, its a shame she's unreal. Same for Amy Wong from Futurama ;P > > And whoever's getting this new Moby book, tell us > how it is. I don't want to buy it if it's just a > long, boring bio that I've already read a million > times. I don't really want it anyway, but if it's > good I'll probably get it. Most likely, we'll all know everything it says in there. But whatever. If its good, tell me and I'll get it for the library my mom werks at. > You kissed a girl, that is so gay! Thanks for embarrassing me, dingus! ;P > hes got a book were what when whats a book were what when ROCK! DJ PAUL, on in 1h:20m np:(unfortunatley):The Knack "My Sharona" (my God! why are you playing this Davo?!?!) ===== "Dream of eatin' cookie dough but watch out for the salmonilla, you know its a killah, close yr eyes and sleep dont forget to breathe!" Sifl & Olly ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #293 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.