From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #302 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, August 22 2000 Volume 03 : Number 302 (mobility) mobility : Ambient the Album Re: (mobility) mobility : Ambient the Album Re: (mobility) ecstasy update... (mobility) erm....... say that again???? (mobility) logo Re: (mobility) logo (mobility) Rolling Stone Blurb Re: (mobility) Rolling Stone Blurb Re: (mobility) logo Re: (mobility) logo Re: (mobility) 1979 Remix, overExposure, ecstacy... Re: (mobility) Chicago concert Re: (mobility) Moby in NYC Re: (mobility) Dido on Letterman (mobility) Phone Ring ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:54:19 -0700 From: "kiwi_kiwi" Subject: (mobility) mobility : Ambient the Album Any one out there have the Moby Album "Ambient"? in the inside of the cover is it only Instinct Records Ads? BmG - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:03:18 EDT From: Creed16005@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) mobility : Ambient the Album of course i have that album, i think we all do, all instinct records ahve advertisments int hem just like early underground, good album i like it peace - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:17:20 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) ecstasy update... > My favorite part is the 100% pure propaganda. How was this article propaganda? It wasn't even government supported, it quoted a professor at Columbia University. Perhaps they receive federal or state funding, but you're jumping to the paranoid conclusion that somehow he's a government minion spreading misinformation. >>This tactic of twisting words has long been used to keep us worried about substances that have been attributed to less deaths and serious medical conditions than the following...>> How's this? The article directly pointed out that very few actual deaths have been associated with its use, that research has been scarce, "until recently" and that the long-term effects are still unsure. It never rallied against the drug, was reasonable and preserved scientific integrity. > No one in the history of man has EVER died because of marijuana! Oh thank you for YOUR scientific delcaration, I'm sure that YOUR studies in addition to being above reproach are well documented and have taken you years to complete, right? Drugs which require a high dosage for death or coma, like asparin and marijuana can still be harmful, many deaths have been associated with asparin, mainly suicide, but it is still possible. If THC was concentrated enough and refined enough it could be fatal. >>Ok, now they are doing their favorite trick again: distoring truth for sensationalism.>> How is this sensationalism? It was the Washington Post, an article that was no where near page one, associated with no graphs, pictures or big news, at best it was a side bar article, filler. >>It IS true that seratonin is impaired, but no one yet knows in what way. To pretend that it is a negative thing when all scientific research points to this being a neutral condition is blasphemous.>> First, I think you are misusing the word "blasphemous". Second, the article sites research to show that cognative and memory functions are impaired, only to what degree is in question. >>The whole reason so many people have had such amazing psychological breakthroughs on E is BECAUSE it effects seratonin.>> Breakthroughs? A bunch of club kids taking illicit drugs has given us psychological breakthroughs? Perhaps they've found a cure for mental illness or depression. Maybe they've written a treastise on childhood developement that I'm unaware of. I'm sure that the scientific community would welcome their assitance in scientific inquiry. >>SO SORRY! The drug hasn't even been used widely until a few years ago, which doesn't give anyone the ability to have tested long term.>> First off, it has been used since it was originally developed in Germany in 1912, certainly enough time and cases to at least make educated guesses. Besides, long-term effects of drugs are usually studied in short time periods using mathematical models and projections which can be refined to give a pretty good idea of actual effects. >>Although the profit margin has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the drugs' safety, I will rebut this patently false statement. I have never met anyone who has payed more than US $30 for a pill, and most get it for US $20-25. If you saw the profit margin on ANYTHING illegal you'd be astounded, apparently.>> Hmmm, I never said I was ASTOUNDED, I said it was INTERESTING. I also wasn't talking about the drug's safety in the final article, I was merely pointing out other parts that I thought were interesting. As for the price, since it is black market, it can vary GREATLY. Another individual said that he never saw it over $15 per pill, you're estimate was double that. The article said pills CAN GO FOR AS MUCH as $50, not that that was the average market price. Move away from the major cities and into rural areas and I'm sure that the added cost and risk of trafficking would easily drive the price up further. >>"Anyone who believes what they are told without reflection has made it natural to brand them a fool." - Myself (just made it up) Morgan Wilson>> "Anyone who vehemently denies what is obvious is a fool." And finally, I didn't post the article because I'm some big anti-drug fuck, infact I'm an objectivist and don't believe that the government has any right to regulate our personal decisions, as such don't support many drug regulations and WOULD support the legalization of many drugs. HOWEVER as a personal decision I would never actively use "recreational" drugs, tobacco and alcohol included. I don't understand some people's need to do so, its a filthy practice used by many people who are unstable or are unable to be content with the world around them. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:22:45 NZST From: ". ." Subject: (mobility) erm....... say that again???? Tiffany here........ Can someone PLEASE tell me what on earth the Lyrics are for "Flower" My friend thinks its something to do with a camping ground!!! haw haw! Oh well, not as bad as translating the Beatles: "She's got a ticket to ride" as..... "She's got a TICK in her eye" !!!! HMMMM, some people eh? Also, I remember a wee while ago, someone saying they diddnt like the song "I like to score" Personally I adore that song!!. Anyone else think it has "Theme song from a 70's porn" written all over it!!! OHHH yehhh baybeeee!!! Ave' a goodun... Miss Grubby ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:25:15 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: (mobility) logo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00BC7.0FB520E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if anyone knew who designed the Moby logo, the one in = which all four letters are combined into one symbol. Also, if anyone = knows where prints of it or tshirts can be purchased, LEGITIMATE ones, = please let me know. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00BC7.0FB520E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was wondering if anyone knew who = designed the=20 Moby logo, the one in which all four letters are combined into one = symbol. =20 Also, if anyone knows where prints of it or tshirts can be purchased, = LEGITIMATE=20 ones, please let me know.
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00BC7.0FB520E0-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:35:11 -0700 From: "kiwi_kiwi" Subject: Re: (mobility) logo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C00BB7.AF800FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey bro=20 You can get that Ringer shirt at Cdnow or at the tour Shop=20 later BMG - ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C00BB7.AF800FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey bro
You can get that Ringer shirt at = Cdnow or at the=20 tour Shop
later
BMG
- ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C00BB7.AF800FA0-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:11:39 -0700 From: "Sara Musko" Subject: (mobility) Rolling Stone Blurb There's a bit in this month's Rolling Stone about Moby. (In "The Hot Issue" heehee). It's about his tour: how he's been touring for so long, how he thinks his shows are the best in the world, etc. Nothing new, just thought I'd mention it. *** Ambient-the album:<> I don't have it. I don't have enough money to buy every album I want. Um, just thought I'd say that. *** - -Sara Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:26:43 EDT From: "ambient SlunK" Subject: Re: (mobility) Rolling Stone Blurb I never been to one of his shows, but to be honest with you, i think he got alot of energy on stage. I watched the rolling rock festival. i would like to know what drugs he uses to give him all that energy. when go played he was climing up to the top of the stage support beams, and when honey played he was jumping all over the place, he is also and excellent drummer. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:55:11 -0500 From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) logo Hey bro You can get that Ringer shirt at Cdnow or at the tour Shop Bah! Unfortunately CDnow doesn't have pictures up of them, gotta see before I buy. Also, $20?!?!?! What is this the gap? - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:13:51 -0700 From: "kiwi_kiwi" Subject: Re: (mobility) logo hey Bro I thank I have the shirt ya want .. well they sell it on Ebay every now n' then I'll try to get you the link http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=412775178 that's one you can check brotha Later BMG - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 07:22:47 GMT From: "Jake M." Subject: Re: (mobility) 1979 Remix, overExposure, ecstacy... So, I've been hearing MOBY everywhere on TV and Radio lately...its actually gotten to the point where I hear a commercial on the TV (and I am not actively watching) and I cannot place the song...I know it, I know it well...like one of those jingles that gets in your head (i.e. Joy of Cola-Pepsico)...Nordstrom commericials, music backing for local news stories...he's everywhere...which is cool, but which makes me hope even more that when he performs at Red Rocks next month he plays something off of Animal Rights...it ought to shock a few people.... Remix of 1979 (Smashing Pumpkins). I really like this remix, I just heard it for the first time. I liked the original song alright, but the remix adds a new flare to it. As for other Moby biz, the local Tower records has a bunch of next is the e and Go singles (sorry if I said this before)...now I was wondering if anyone ever found out if there was a wide Re-issuing by Instinct in the US or what? I've only seen these two singles, but seen a lot of them. OFF MOBY TOPIC STARTS NOW: Ecstacy...I don't know whether or not this or any other illegal drug should be legalized, its certainly a hot issue...but as I was surfing I found this about ecstacy: From http://www.clubdrugs.org "What is most disturbing about these trends is the fact that MDMA is not a benign drug. In fact, all of the studies conducted to date in both animals and more recently in humans, confirm that club drugs, particularly MDMA, are not harmless "fun party drugs." While users of club drugs may think they're taking them simply for energy to keep on dancing or partying, research shows these drugs can have long-lasting negative effects on the brain that can alter memory function and motor skills." "We are now beginning to see signs that MDMA has the ability to impair one's cognitive abilities as well. Several findings, including those recently reported in the Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery, and Psychiatry, found that when MDMA users who also occasionally used marijuana were given a battery of performance tests. They fared significantly worse on some components when compared to either marijuana users or non-drug users. Participants were tested for attention, memory and learning, frontal lobe function and general intelligence. In general, MDMA users, had poorer performance results in three general intelligence tests, they also required more repetitions to learn a word than both the marijuana and the non-drug users, and when compared to the non-drug users had poorer short-term memory performance. The researchers concluded that MDMA use over a period of months or a few years may cause long-term impairment of cognitive performance even when MDMA is taken in relatively small doses." This was in a statement by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (yes it is a US Government organization) to the US Senate. Now by posting this I am not advocating what it is saying...I have just found evidence like this, not to the contrary...with this or marijuana (except from pro-legalization outlets). Making an informed judgement is what is important...I honestly don't care if one chooses to use the drug...as long as they do so responsibly and don't go out and drive or something like that... I can see that there may not be many direct deaths related to marijuana or ecstacy use...but just as with Alcohol and such...many of the deaths are caused by car accidents...I've personally known many people involved in various car accidents because they had toked up before driving or while driving...physically harmful or not...they are mind altering drugs...like alcohol and should be used with caution...like alcohol. At best no one can change anothers opinion, but one can help another to be informed. I am not advocating using, not using, legalizing, not legalizing, just adding to the discourse... NP: Manic Street Preachers "Masses against the Classes" Jake "The unexamined life is not worth living"- Plato "The pursuit of Truth shall set you free...even if you never catch up with it"- Clarence Darrow - -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:53:55 -0500 From: S Rieger Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicago concert ticketmaster still has some left let me know if you make it Joshua Schilling wrote: > I am, if i can get my hands on some tix. > > -Josh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: S Rieger > To: moby > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:38 AM > Subject: (mobility) Chicago concert > > > Are any of you going to the chicago concert, I am, > > > > > > ------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:55:01 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in NYC I'm going to the Show on the 21st...I'm also looking to go to the one of the 22nd...let's meet up..peace..elie - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:56:00 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Dido on Letterman In a message dated 08/21/2000 7:51:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skarules75@hotmail.com writes: > I know there are alot of Dido fans on the list so I thought I would drop a > note mentioning that She is scheduled to be on Letterman tonight (mon Aug > 21). She also played last nite at Roseland and she was pretty fabulous, along with real good looking...elie - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:34:51 -0700 From: "Rob Skipworth" Subject: (mobility) Phone Ring This is pretty strange, but for those of you with Nokia digital cellular phones, you can now have your phone play a snippet of moby's porcelain every time it rings. Just go to http://yourmobile.com and you can select from about 150 songs. I think the Moby one sucked quite honestly. But there are others to choose from, who wouldn't want to be alerted of a call with the Inspector Gadget theme song or Dueling Banjos???? - ---rob "rob skipworth" skipworth - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #302 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.