From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #401 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Friday, November 17 2000 Volume 03 : Number 401 (mobility) My first message. (mobility) old scool mobility (mobility) Totally Unrelated Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated Re: (mobility) mobyspotting Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated (mobility) Moby touring w/ Bush (mobility) Poll: Blast from the past :) (mobility) re: Poll: Blast from the past :) Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:32:34 -0800 From: "Evan Kent" Subject: (mobility) My first message. I've been a fan of Moby for a while, and I finally made the trip to www.moby-online.com. There I tried to sign up for the boards, but they never sent me a reply email. I applied two different times, for two different e-mail addresses. Has anyone else had this problem? Also, does anyone else find the site lacking a bit in content? Maybe this is just me; also it may be that the site is just getting onto its feet. Anyway, this is no slur against Moby; I'm sure he had little to do with the creation and maintainance of the site. Or does he? Oh well, I'd just like to say hi. Mobile - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 06:28:33 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) old scool mobility Is it just me, or when people say they are quitting the list, they never contributed much to the conversations anyway? I mean not all the time, but a lot of times... For no reason, in my spare time, I'm going thru the Mobility archives and reading all the old mails. Specifically Ryu's mails, but nevertheless. (I miss that dude! Even tho I email him all the time, or well Jon Z, but its really the same person, but its just different with him away from Mobility...anyway...) Is Hobag Johnson still on this list? or what about Misery Machine? or Iowotflaichi (oh wait thats Ryu ;) Anyway, for all the newbies who have NNNNNO CLUE what I'm talking bout, go to www.moby.org and go to Archives..... or don't. some of my posts in the past have been extremely snotty and misinformed and crap. *cough cough Goldie cough Puff Daddy* ;) But read Ryu's posts, theyre cool ;) Also I noticed he remarked something about Ryu quoting Moby as calling all DJ's "anal retentive repressed white caucasian fucks." Which, not coincidentally, is the title to a song on the album "We Kill You" by Soulpsychadelicide ;) *cough soulpsychadelicide.com cough FREE MUSIC cough cough* ;) Excuse me, I have a bad cold... ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "What do we do? We do the voodoo. I send the energy to a enemy. They say I'm not normal-a, I'm the kid with the formula." Tricky, "Bombing Bastards" (best Tricky song EVER) ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:18:05 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: (mobility) Totally Unrelated I thought this was cool.. Half of Indian Women Say Wife Beating Justified Updated 8:22 AM ET November 17, 2000 NEW DELHI (Reuters) - More than half of Indian women believe that wife-beating can be justified under certain circumstances, a survey on population and health published this week said. The survey of 90,000 women across the country -- conducted by the International Institute for Population Sciences at the initiative of the Health Ministry -- found that about 56 percent endorsed wife-beating on at least one of six grounds. "Since this topic is sensitive and women may be reluctant to report domestic violence, these results may underestimate the extent of domestic violence," a report on the survey said. "Possible reasons include a 'culture of silence' surrounding domestic violence, fear and different perceptions among women about what constitutes violence." Forty percent of women agreed that wife-beating was justified for neglecting the house or children, and 37 percent felt that going out without informing their husbands constituted a valid reason. Thirty-four percent felt that beatings were justified for showing disrespect to in-laws and 33 percent said that suspicion of infidelity were acceptable grounds. Wife-beating for inadequate dowry and improper cooking was also seen as an acceptable reason for violence by some of the women surveyed. The National Family Health Survey found that 20 percent of women had been beaten or physically mistreated since the age of 15, most commonly by the husband. The survey found that while views on wife-beating were uniform across categories of age and marital duration, there was a divergence of views according to levels of education and between urban and rural women. _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:52:15 EST From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated >>I thought this was cool.. Half of Indian Women Say Wife Beating Justified<< How is that possibly considered cool? Can husband beating be justified under any circumstances? I don't think so. It's a sad, sad world. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated Ok, I just thought it was FUNNY that this still happened. I wasn't being sick or twisted. It was more of a "sigh of disgust" than anything... Eric On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:52:15 EST, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > >>I thought this was cool.. > > Half of Indian Women Say Wife Beating Justified<< > > How is that possibly considered cool? Can husband beating be justified under > any circumstances? > > I don't think so. > > It's a sad, sad world. > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:26:18 +0000 From: Martin James Subject: Re: (mobility) mobyspotting Just so you know... Mixer was once called Mixmag US. Then the publishers (DMC - as in the mixing championships people) sold Mixmag to a major publishing house. Mixmag US became Mixer while in the UK they created 7 magazine, the world's only weekly dance music mag. M. on 17/11/00 0:31, theShackofXaq at zbentz@d.umn.edu wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, crowes3 wrote: > >> Thanks for the tip! Wandering around Borders found mixmag with an attached >> cd purchased. It lists all kinds of events, shows, clubs etc. Is there a >> U.S. equivalent? Anne (haven't got to the cd yet) > > actually yes, sort of. "mixer" used to be the mixmag u.s. version. they > are now (and have been for a while) their own thing. i highly recommend > them both every month if you want to know what's REALLY going on in the > massive world of club culture. plus, mixer actually publishes my letters! > enjoy! > [xaq] > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "theShackofXaq" >> To: "i*heart*moby" >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 10:59 AM >> Subject: (mobility) mobyspotting >> >> >>> for the obsessive masses...moby is mentioned, pictured, and refrenced >>> about 4 or 5 times in the november issue of mixmag. i'll let you do the >>> footwork...oh, and it's not all positive. (thank god) >>> also, i'm always happy to see intelligence on the list. moby is many >>> things and thoughts and feelings and expressions, as this list should be. >>> go be a nazi somewhere else. no one is making you read every word posted. >>> it's fine to swap "my favorite..." lists from time to time, but some of >>> us actually like to think from time to time. however, personal attacks >>> and name calling is never appropriate. be calm, be nice, be honest. >>> [xaq] >>> >>> "How do you know that?" >>> "I followed you." >>> "I saw know one." >>> "That is what you should expect to see when I follow you." >>> Sherlock Holmes >>> >>> i'm not being lazy...i'm hard at work charting out a >>> vertical world line in four-dimensional space-time. >>> me-dj/producer >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >>> with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. >> >> >> >> ------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >> with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. >> > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:51:28 EST From: Sharmi23@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated ohhhh boy. Interesting article. There's a few things I'd wonder about. a. Who specifically wrote this?? b. What kind of research were they doing (sounds sociological) c.what questions were on the survey? d. What was the relationship that the researchers had with the interviewees? The article sounds like a load of crap and I'd think about 500x before trusting an article that makes statements and does'nt explain the circumstances behind the research. I'm an indian woman (I was born in Detroit though) and I've been to india many times. The rich, beautiful culture is so awesome... I couldn't possible walk around the country and pinpoint one out of two women to feel justified in being beaten. It's just plain absurd. It is easy to read an article and believe things about a culture that you aren't familiar with. It's easy because Rueters is th most popular source of international issues. I'd seriously wonder about that study. It would be naive to believe a bunch of bold statements like that. It really pissed me off. When I was younger i never understood why my mother used to get angry about the way that India was represented in the media. she said that all American people view India is poverty, monsoons, etc. It's not true. There's so much more. There is always so much more than media feeds. I did an anthropological study on female impersonators. In this study I made sure that I addressed any prejudices that I may have because I was writing about a world of XY as a female researcher. As a female, my perspective in this world can be radically different and I was seriously at risk of misunderstanding. My main objective in my research was to make sure that I addressed who I was interviewing, what she said, what I asked and why. Who I was and who Miss Carmen was made a huge difference. The people that read my research were academics that probably didn't spend a whole lot of time at the drag bars so I really had to make sure. ok this is getting long. My point is, is that that article was very short, sweet, to the point and very lacking. I would not believe everything that is happening "over there" to the "other". domestic violence is an important issue in America. there are many strict laws that work against it. However, it is still a big problem so the United States should worry about it's own problems first............ Gotta run...I'm at work............runon this is a second version of an earlier very angry letter that didn't go through because I closed it before it got sent. oops before my boss beats me Sharmila - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) Moby touring w/ Bush Hey folkz, Even tho I should be doing college related stuff, in my spare time I'm going thru all the Mobility archives. Turns out in late 96-early 97, Bush approached Moby and asked him to open them. And it was all controversial here. Wow. And then everybody's nightmares came true ;) Check this out. (ROCK! DJ PAUL) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:55:14 -0500 (EST) To: mobility-list@aros.net From: Cypher Subject: Re: Mobility: Ramblings > Also, I hope that Bush wanting to be on tour with Moby is a vile, >cruel joke. If Bush toured with Moby in the states, I'm positive >that Moby would open, and for some band with no talent and recycled >garbage for music to come on AFTER a man with such talent and >diversity in music such as Moby would be a diaster. Let's just hope >Bush realizes that they are one hit wonders and they perform ritual >suicide before they decide to tour with Moby. By the way, doesn't >Moby have the right to say, "These guys suck. I don't want to play >live with them." That's enough for now. i really hope that moby turns down this offer. as much as i'd love to see him this year, i don't want to see him wtih bush...of all bands. that gavin is a oxy zit cream commercial! "oh i'm so pretty...bring the camera real close so i can make all the girlies scream like i'm elvis....or some other rock star who ripped off somebody else!" bush sucks. moby doesn't. if moby wants to tour with a rock band, i'd like to see him with smashing pumpkins, marilyn manson, manic street preachers (like that would ever happen), pop will eat itself (like that would either), or for the ultimate show, 0(+> (prince). love, ryu ===== "What do we do? We do the voodoo. I send the energy to a enemy. They say I'm not normal-a, I'm the kid with the formula." Tricky, "Bombing Bastards" (best Tricky song EVER) ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) Poll: Blast from the past :) Screwing around in the archives, here's some questions from our pal Ryu :) ROCK! DJ PAUL since the list has slowed down a bit recently, thought i'd just post some dumb old moby questions again: if moby HAD a car, what kind of car would it be? what musician do you find to be the perfect mate for moby? what do you predict the sound of moby's next album to be like? where do you think moby will be (musicaly) 10 years from now? who do you think would win in a fight, moby or ghandi? if moby were a pro wrestler, who would make the best tag team partner for him? what color do you think represents moby the best? which song of moby's do you find to be the most moby-filled? just trying to strike conversation here..... love, ryu ===== "What do we do? We do the voodoo. I send the energy to a enemy. They say I'm not normal-a, I'm the kid with the formula." Tricky, "Bombing Bastards" (best Tricky song EVER) ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:59:15 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) re: Poll: Blast from the past :) I don't know, but it would eat gas really quickly ;) (Honey video) Bjork *shrug* Polka trance crossover Doing piano ballads and stuff Ghandi (on deathmatch anyway ;) Gwen Blue (EIW Underwater blue ;) Memory Gospel Love you too ;) ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "What do we do? We do the voodoo. I send the energy to a enemy. They say I'm not normal-a, I'm the kid with the formula." Tricky, "Bombing Bastards" (best Tricky song EVER) ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:10:24 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) Totally Unrelated Well.... you also have to realize that just because most of us have been= raised to think things like this are wrong, people in other countries with= different cultures may not. That's what makes the world so diverse. And please, don't have your head up your ass anyone and think that I'm= saying I feel wife beating is cool. I'm just saying that we can't truly= understand the reasoning unless we're of that origin. - -Matt *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/17/2000 at 11:52 AM Insrtbrain@aol.com wrote: >>>I thought this was cool.. > >Half of Indian Women Say Wife Beating Justified<< > >How is that possibly considered cool? Can husband beating be justified= under >any circumstances? > >I don't think so. > >It's a sad, sad world. > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - My Bootleg List - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #401 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.