From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #429 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Monday, December 11 2000 Volume 03 : Number 429 (mobility) MOBY IS AN EVIL ALIEN (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #427 Re: SV: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! (mobility) Arfie's Byzantium (utterly off topic) Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! RE: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) newsflash (mobility) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:20:59 -0500 (mobility) MOBY GUILTY OF BIGAMY! Re: SV: (mobility) bandwagon? Re: (mobility) Update from moby-online.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:56:00 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: (mobility) MOBY IS AN EVIL ALIEN I WAS READING THE STAR MAGAZINE, IT SAID MOBY IS AN EVIL ALIEN WHO WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND SUCK OUT OUR BRAINS! OH, AND MACHETE IS MONDO, INNIT. - -- TooSkot Convincing, no? ;) - -- Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:01:34 EST From: Shelteringskies@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #427 Since when is appreciation of music conditional upon the perceived and often misguided "coolness factor" of just how early the appreciation of an artists music dates?? I have been through music snobbery firsthand myself...and it closed me off to a lot of wonderful music and experiences and most importantly, people. I got over myself and my limited perspective and have opened myself to many worthwhile genres of music. My advice to anyone using the label "bandwagoners"---Get over yourself. You have no higher appreciation of Moby because you listened to him "first". I have been listening only since Play and have naturally been led to discover early works, much of which, (ironically in this whole skewed measure of one's value as a fan), I was familiar with already and never realized who the artist was. Moby and other artists are about much more than claims to original fandom and elitist music boundaries. The beauty of him reaching more people is to extend the message he wishes to promote. I dont think anyone who rates people's value on this list by length of listening time or history on the list itself is really getting any such message from Moby or any other artist. Just my humble, yet wise, opinion. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:02:14 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: SV: (mobility) bandwagon? >Yes, the SARCASM ... Ah, right... But can you give the latest two names of Byzantium? ;) - -- Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:06:45 -0700 From: "Tyler Holt" Subject: Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Sorry us "little bandwagoneers" piss you off so badly. We're all SO sorry that we didn't discover Moby while he was just an underground DJ. How the heck would I know who Moby was if he didn't get played on the radio? I'm a 17 year old who lives in UTAH. Let me tell you, the underground scene here is jumpin. Personally, I think Moby's music is the most deep, amazing, spiritual stuff out there. Since earlier this year, I've spent all my money on his music. I'd rather have a couple of his albums than a new pair of pants. Just because I discovered Play during spring break this year doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan than anyone else on this list who's listened to him for 8 years or whatever. Shut up. Peace Tyler "and i think to myself, what a wonderful world" -Louis Armstrong From: Brad Caviness Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:49:59 -0800 (PST) - --- Jennifer Byrd wrote: > sorry if this sounds militant or anything. i just am fed > up with that attitude on here. > That's because you're just a little bandwagoneer who only picks up on "cool" "new" bands when they get on eMpTy V. Clearly, those of us who have been listening to Moby for years (1992 -- HooAH!) are clearly better people. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises “I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce.” - Jimmy James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:07:43 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Hey thank Artie, I gots nothin' but love for ya too! The Big Eric On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:51:23 +0000, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > >Dear TooSkot > >Please go away. nobody here likes you. > > That's not true - I like biggotted, ignorant, stupid offensive > people. They're very funny. ;) > > -- > Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:10:29 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! >Hey thank Artie, I gots nothin' but love for ya too! Hoi! The sarcasm on this list.... tsk, tsk... - -- Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:15:17 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! But I looooooooove you, is that so wrong? Eric the Green On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:10:29 +0000, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > >Hey thank Artie, I gots nothin' but love for ya too! > > Hoi! > > The sarcasm on this list.... tsk, tsk... > > -- > Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:17:13 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! >But I looooooooove you, is that so wrong? I've never had a complete stranger say that to me before... - -- Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:34:31 +0100 From: Rob Subject: (mobility) Arfie's Byzantium (utterly off topic) Yes, but I won't, because I'm ambiguous (another 'deformation'), and also because this goes way beyond the relevance of this list ... Rob Arfie Mansfield wrote: > >Yes, the SARCASM ... > > Ah, right... But can you give the latest two names of Byzantium? > > Arfie Mansfield - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:37:39 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! Well I just want you to feel loved... I find no fault in that. Everyone deserves love. Eric (just that) On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:17:13 +0000, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > >But I looooooooove you, is that so wrong? > > I've never had a complete stranger say that to me before... > > -- > Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:40:44 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby WAS ONCE A... woman! > Well I just want you to feel loved... I find no fault in that. Everyone >deserves love. Thank you. After all; "All That I Need is to be Loved"... :) - -- Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of the earth" ] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Pagan Subject: RE: (mobility) bandwagon? - --- Tim Ellorin wrote: > SARCASM?!!! Ooooh, is that what that is > called? Thank you for clarifying this for me > as I did not understand. > > Oh, wait! Am I being sarcastic? > > Tim bonus points for digging yourself out of a big pile of doo doo by turning the aggresor's argument around on him. i commend you. the only flaw is that your original message had not a hint of sarcasm coming to this person. at least a ':)' would have made sure that it was sarcastic. note to self: remember to quote tim later on in other flame endeavors. ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:46:36 +0100 From: Rob Subject: Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Tyler Holt wrote: > I'm a 17 year old who lives in UTAH. Ah, Ah-ah, Utah, you MUST be a mormon !! > (...) Personally, I think Moby's music is the most deep, amazing, spiritual stuff out > there. There, you see, you see, he said it: SPIRITUAL ... > Since earlier this year, I've spent all my money on his music. Aha, and a capitalist as well ... > I'd rather have a couple of his albums than a new pair of pants. .... and an exhibitionist .... > Just because I discovered Play during spring break this year doesn't mean I'm any less > of a fan than anyone else on this list who's listened to him for 8 years or whatever. ... a springbreaker ... > Shut up. ... a fanatic dogmatic ... > Peace ... AND a PACIFIST!!! Rob P.S. Again, don't miss out on the sarcasm. By the way, your spelling is excellent. Much better than most of the 8-years-ahead-of-you ... - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Re: (mobility) bandwagon? Oh my god that was BY FAR the funniest email I have ever read in my entire life. I commend you for writing that and I can't even comment on it any further. Eric the Red On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 22:46:36 +0100, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > Tyler Holt wrote: > > > I'm a 17 year old who lives in UTAH. > > Ah, Ah-ah, Utah, you MUST be a mormon !! > > > (...) Personally, I think Moby's music is the most deep, amazing, spiritual stuff out > > there. > > There, you see, you see, he said it: SPIRITUAL ... > > > Since earlier this year, I've spent all my money on his music. > > Aha, and a capitalist as well ... > > > I'd rather have a couple of his albums than a new pair of pants. > > .... and an exhibitionist .... > > > Just because I discovered Play during spring break this year doesn't mean I'm any less > > of a fan than anyone else on this list who's listened to him for 8 years or whatever. > > ... a springbreaker ... > > > Shut up. > > ... a fanatic dogmatic ... > > > Peace > > ... AND a PACIFIST!!! > > Rob > > P.S. Again, don't miss out on the sarcasm. By the way, your spelling is excellent. Much > better than most of the 8-years-ahead-of-you ... > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:40:15 +0100 From: Rob Subject: Re: (mobility) newsflash For this once, I have to disagree with Bart AND Moby ... Just downloaded this song (THANX 2 Napster) to form an opinion, only to find out I already know this song from airplay. And I must say, to my humble opinion, it's just your average, middle-of-the-road, retro-seventies, very cheap Chic imitation (Nile Rodgers would agree, I guess) .... Rob Bart van Eijck wrote: > Moby wants to cooperate with Sophie Ellis-Bextor, the singer in the dance hit > Groovejet (if this ain't love) by Spiller. > Moby: "I can't get this tune out of my head, it's brilliant" "Sophie has a > fantastic voice and I would like to cooperate with her. Her voice makes that > number. I had my record company find out where she is. Perhaps we could > copulate after my tour." > > Sounds yummy :) - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:27:21 -0700 From: Jennifer Byrd Subject: (mobility) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:20:59 -0500 how offended am i... and how sad is it that the artist who has been able to make me think and feel and move more than any other is arousing in other people some sense of competition. when i listen to moby and just weep, when i look up at him on the stage and feel the body heat of the strangers next to me who are my friends and companions for the evening- joined together by our common love and admiration for the same glorious musician and thinker- it does not cross my mind that perhaps i am not a "true" or "fully matured" moby fan. the audacity that some of you must have to claim superiority is outright appalling. i just feel like my situation- that of being captivated by this man who brings me so much joy and truth- is being belittled because i wasn't born in 1980, and i wasn't exposed to music for a lot of my life. i guess, then, that i am not capable of loving his art if i have not been familiar with it since i was 10. maybe i am taking this a little too personally, but... moby and his music happen to be deeply personal parts of my life. true constants, and a source of hope. i thought that this listserv would allow me to engage with people who feel the same way i do. but i'm starting to wonder if it isn't just an outlet for one-up-manship. jenny - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:08:58 EST From: TooSkot@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBY GUILTY OF BIGAMY! I WAS READING IN THE STAR MAGAZINE THE OTHER DAY THAT MOBY IS GUILTY OF HAVING MORE THAN ONE SPOUSE!! BOTH MEN AND WOMEN!! I CANT BELEIVE IT... ALSO, MOVE (YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO GOOD) RULES!!! - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:34:47 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: SV: (mobility) bandwagon? To Rob and Viktor: It doesn't matter how long you've been a fan but what kind of fan you've been. A. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: Re: SV: (mobility) bandwagon? > I've been a fan of Moby since 11 September 1965 ... > > Rob > > viktor wrote: > > > actually, i consider everyone that hasn't been listening to moby since he played in the vatican > > commandoes (early 80s) not to be true fans.... ;-) > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:49:37 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) Update from moby-online.com MMMMMMM!!!!OBY!!!!!LOVE THAT MAN!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" To: Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: (mobility) Update from moby-online.com > > So he might be bi-sexual... Hmmm... > > > Eric the Red > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:55:00 +0000, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > Considering the homophobic comments made here recently by > > a certain individual, I thought I'd post this to the list; > > > > Gender Issues > > 12/8/00 - San Diego > > > > I probably shouldn't be writing right now, cos it's late and I'm very > sleepy. > > But who can resist the lure of a sexy laptop... > > You know, the issue of gay vs. straight is interesting to me. It's > > kind of like the issue of catholic vs. protestant. Or apples vs. oranges. > > > Personally, I would like to live in a world where there was no > distinction > > between being gay or straight. What I mean is that I would like to live > in a > > world where it wasn't an issue. Where people liked people regardless of > > their gender. And where no one was ashamed of their sexual orientation. > > To answer your question, I'm pretty straight. I do find myself much more > > sexually attracted to women than to men. But I wish that it wasn't an > issue. > > One of the things I love about New York City is that it's a place > > where gay couples can walk down the street holding hands and/or kissing > > and no one bothers them. I hate the fact that there are parts of the > world > > where people are persecuted or made to feel bad for their sexual > > orientation. > > Romance and sex and love are really nice things, and when two > > people (or more, whatever) are attracted to each other, then I believe > > that's something to be celebrated. Homophobia is something that's > > always mystified me. What possible reason can anyone use to justify > > homophobia? I find it kind of ironic when people say that 'homosexuality > is > > not natural'...umm, last time I checked neither were: > > antibiotics, synthesizers, airplanes, pasteurization, > > automobiles, televisions, footballs, wrestling costumes, sneakers, > > lightbulbs, etc. > > Live and let live. What people choose to do as consenting > > individuals is theirbusiness and no one elses, or so I believe. > > OK, time for bed. > > -Moby > > > > -- > > Arfie Mansfield -- [ "And this also has been one of the dark places of > the earth" ] > > > > ------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > > "It's not easy being green" > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V3 #429 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.