From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V3 #447 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Sunday, December 17 2000 Volume 03 : Number 447 Re: (mobility) Silk? Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen Re: (mobility) another question RE: (mobility) Moby and Gwen Re: (mobility) another question (mobility) re: religion and even some moby Re: (mobility) another question RE: (mobility) Moby and Gwen Re: (mobility) religions Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:20:19 EST From: Jsoy0@cs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Silk? Yes, they are. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:20:03 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen - --=====_97708800329358=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wasn't the Gwen version of the song done way after Play was released, just= for the single + video? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 12/17/2000 at 3:10 PM Caetano78@aol.com wrote: honestly, i do not think gwen and moby's duo did so well together, and= that's why it may not have made it to Play...the woman that does the beautiful= break on porcelain, whoever it, she, or he is should collaborate with moby...peace..elie - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - --=====_97708800329358=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Wasn't the Gwen version of the song done way after Play was released, just for the single + video?
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On 12/17/2000 at 3:10 PM Caetano78@aol.com wrote:
honestly, i do not think gwen and moby's duo did so well together, and that's
why it may not have made it to Play...the woman that does the beautiful break
on porcelain, whoever it, she, or he is should collaborate with
moby...peace..elie


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- --=====_97708800329358=_-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:35:05 EST From: ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) another question - --part1_84.ed450b6.276e8b89_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay , I joined this list because I thought it'd be about intersting parts of moby's life ,not just gifts we'd give moby and stuff on gwen and moby's "southside " remix. I just want to know a few things 1: Is the guitar Moby uses an Ibanez GAX40? 2: where can i find out about moby's equipment like his guitar and pedals and such b/c my band wants to cover "southside" ..the remixed version and we need to know what he uses so we can get the same or very similar gear Im a guitarist-drummer-DJ-Keyboardist-Bassist-singer-songwriter like Moby so i want to know how he gets some of his sounds..ESPECIALLY the DJ stuff. i want to get 100 or so records and i want to know what he samples and stuff. anyone who can help thank you. sorry if i seem angry , im really not i just have a cold and im kinda moody - --part1_84.ed450b6.276e8b89_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay , I joined this list because I thought it'd be about intersting parts of
moby's life ,not just gifts we'd give moby and stuff on gwen and moby's
"southside " remix. I just want to know a few things


1: Is the guitar Moby uses an Ibanez GAX40?
2: where can i find out about moby's equipment like his guitar and pedals and
such b/c my band wants to cover "southside" ..the remixed version and we need
to know what he uses so we can get the same or very similar gear


Im a guitarist-drummer-DJ-Keyboardist-Bassist-singer-songwriter like Moby so
i want to know how he gets some of his sounds..ESPECIALLY the DJ stuff. i
want to get 100 or so records and i want to know what he samples and stuff.

anyone who can help thank you. sorry if i seem angry , im really not i just
have a cold and im kinda moody
- --part1_84.ed450b6.276e8b89_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:44:37 -0800 From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby and Gwen >Wasn't the Gwen version of the song done way after Play was released, just for the single + >video? I'm not sure if it was re-made after Play but I believe they had recorded it before Play came out.. and Moby said that the only reason he chose the version without her vocals was that he liked the way the drums came out on his solo version. That's what I remember reading... - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:40:42 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Caviness Subject: Re: (mobility) another question - --- ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com wrote: > Okay , I joined this list because I thought it'd be about > intersting parts of moby's life ,not just gifts we'd give > moby and stuff on gwen and moby's "southside " remix. I > just want to know a few things > This list is all things moby... it's a wild ride. > 1: Is the guitar Moby uses an Ibanez GAX40? > It's an Ibanez.... I don't know the exact model. But it's one with stickers on it. > 2: where can i find out about moby's equipment like his > guitar and pedals and such b/c my band wants to > cover "southside" ..the remixed version and we need to > know what he uses so we can get the same or very similar > gear > Personally, I say make it your own in your own style. I know Moby lists all the equipment he uses for the Everything is Wrong album in the liner notes for that cd.... check the Play notes.... there might be a similar list. As for samples, moby won't know for the most part. Unless it's something that shatters his world like "sounds of the south", he doesn't remember things like titles or where he got them. People have been trying to find out what he sampled for the single version of "Hymn" for six years, and he just doesn't remember. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises “I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce.” - Jimmy James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:41:51 -0800 (PST) From: Elissa Brown Subject: (mobility) re: religion and even some moby DJ Pagan wrote: > you are using a terrible argument here, elissa. > those practices in the bible, being the old > testament with the law books, were pretty much > null and void with the coming of jesus christ. > polygamy stopped because it was, according to > christ, committing adultery. slavery was not > treating others are you would like to be treated. > christ's message was very, very clear on these > particular points. the mormon church seemed to > disregard this on the move west. things have > changed, however, and they are a better church > because of it. Good point, and you're right. What I think I was trying to get at is that.. slavery is obviously against Christ's teachings. However, those who practiced slavery found justification in the Bible anyway, and called themselves Christians. Now, both were wrong according to Christ. But just like how slavery is in the past, and it's time to move on, people should get past the polygamy thing, too. Beating on Mormons over polygamy is like beating on my great great great whatever owning a slave. (Actually I don't know if anyone in my family owned slaves, but I guess it's possible.) Neither one is productive, and it just screams to have someone recite the glass houses maxim. Ok, enough about that. This is far too heavy discussion for the Holidays. :-) Oh yes, the Moby bit: MTV.com has some clips, pictures, etc, of Moby and Gwen on Fashionably Loud. Including Moby smiling for the camera with models. LOL I'm not gonna try giving a direct link because MTV's site is all newfangled. Elissa Oh, just FYI, your humourous definition of agnostic wasn't lost on everyone on the list. Sometimes people have trouble 'thinking out of the box.' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:44:16 EST From: ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) another question - --part1_ac.e662dd4.276e8db0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you ! finally a helpful person online! - --part1_ac.e662dd4.276e8db0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you ! finally a helpful person online! - --part1_ac.e662dd4.276e8db0_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:02:38 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby and Gwen > >I'm not sure if it was re-made after Play but I believe they had recorded= it >before Play came out.. and Moby said that the only reason he chose the >version without her vocals was that he liked the way the drums came out on >his solo version. That's what I remember reading... Cool... I honestly didn't know that! I have always been under the= impression that it was just a re-version with Gwen's vox dubbed over the= already present Moby ones. ta - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:10:33 -0600 From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) religions At 9:12 AM -0800 on 12/17/00, Elissa Brown wrote: > > >I'm mormon. we aren't polygamists. >> >> Not officially, anyway... > >Dude. Don't hate. I don't see how you can find hate in that comment. >I'm not Mormon but I've friends who are. I'm tired of everyone bagging on them >because of the polygamy background. They don't do it any more, and it is >*strongly* prohibited in the church. It's ridiculous that people just can't >get over it already. The practice of polygamy is in the Bible. So is the >practice of slavery. (which I mention not because of Mormons but because of >America's past, which I imagine most of us have connections to.) Does that >make the practice of either one right contemporarily, or ever? No. Does it >show us where things could have originated? Yes. Is it time to move on and >forgive and forget already? I believe so. The Book of Mormon doesn't condone polygamy, but Joseph Smith changed his mind, contradicting his own book later on, and stated that it was a *necessity* so that they could become "gods". My main points of contention about Mormonism are based on their theology, not merely polygamy. Yeah, I view polygamy as being weird, but I object mostly to their beliefs that are more strikingly different from Biblical guidelines like those I mentioned previously. > > >And then there is one >> >last thing. I have always been mystified by other churches >>reactions to the >> >Mormon church. >> >> People criticize the Mormon church primarily because they claim to be >> just another Christian church when they deny the central tenets of >> Christianity, like the deity of Christ and putting their own book as >> equal to the Bible. > >People who criticise the LDS church probably 1) have no good friends who are >LDS, I have had LDS friends. >2) have never been to a service where they could see how Christian the >service really is, I've never been to one of their services, but merely studying their history and theology tells you that something's seriously heretical about Mormonism. Saying that their services seemed "Christian" doesn't mean much. >3) have never fully explored the church's roots in the >hebrew bible and the new testament and thus found just how much of the >structure and doctrine is derived exactly from both texts. Their B.O.M. flat-out contradicts the Bible on many counts. They do have roots in the Christian church, but so do many other Christianity-derived cults, such as the Unification Church, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Christian Scientists. >You know, it's this kind of judging that makes Moby hesitate calling himself >"Christian." Who would want to identify themselves with that? I >sure wouldn't. I don't believe that one should accept heresy just to get along well with others. If Mormons didn't even pretend to be Christians, I'd object less to their teachings. I would imagine that if Moby were around people who wanted to be known as vegans, yet who redefined all of the important aspects of what it means to be a vegan, he'd be similarly irritated. You might want to check out this very well-documented page that points out the contradictions: http://www.joyfulheart.com/cults/mormon.htm Differences in definitions between Xnty and Mormonism: http://ww2.integrityol.com/exmormon/def.htm http://www.mrm.org/mormonism-101-preface.html http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/reason.htm - -- John Turpin : justified_type@mac.com http://www.justifiedtype.net/ Please trim your replies! - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:10:56 EST From: ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen - --part1_d9.dd9e2c4.276e93f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is his quote "We remixed the song after the album came out . I knew she had an incredible voice , but was on tour so i couldnt get her to stop by the studio. when we finally got into the studio after the album was released, we remixed "southside" and released her version as a single . " my friend BlueVooDooBass sent me that so ALL EMAILS ABOUT GWEN AND MOBY SHOULD GO TO HIM AND NOT ME! i will send Tos warnings to anyone who sends me something about Gwen and moby . Moby mailing list people , not gwen and moby . thanks - --part1_d9.dd9e2c4.276e93f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is his quote "We remixed the song after the album came out . I knew she
had an incredible voice , but was on tour so i couldnt get her to stop by the
studio. when we finally got into the studio after the album was released, we
remixed "southside" and released her version as a single . "

my friend BlueVooDooBass sent me that so ALL EMAILS ABOUT GWEN AND MOBY
SHOULD GO TO HIM AND NOT ME! i will send Tos warnings to anyone who sends me
something about Gwen and moby . Moby mailing list people , not gwen and moby
. thanks - --part1_d9.dd9e2c4.276e93f0_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:34:14 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby and Gwen - --=====_97709245428145=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dude, calm down... everything will be alright! :D *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 12/17/2000 at 5:10 PM ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com wrote: This is his quote "We remixed the song after the album came out . I knew= she had an incredible voice , but was on tour so i couldnt get her to stop by= the studio. when we finally got into the studio after the album was released,= we remixed "southside" and released her version as a single . " my friend BlueVooDooBass sent me that so ALL EMAILS ABOUT GWEN AND MOBY SHOULD GO TO HIM AND NOT ME! i will send Tos warnings to anyone who sends= me something about Gwen and moby . Moby mailing list people , not gwen and= moby . thanks - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - --=====_97709245428145=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" dude, calm down... everything will be alright! :D
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On 12/17/2000 at 5:10 PM ClubDevoMayhem@aol.com wrote:
This is his quote "We remixed the song after the album came out . I knew she
had an incredible voice , but was on tour so i couldnt get her to stop by the
studio. when we finally got into the studio after the album was released, we
remixed "southside" and released her version as a single . "

my friend BlueVooDooBass sent me that so ALL EMAILS ABOUT GWEN AND MOBY
SHOULD GO TO HIM AND NOT ME! i will send Tos warnings to anyone who sends me
something about Gwen and moby . Moby mailing list people , not gwen and moby
. thanks 


- -Matt
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"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough 
to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush

http://www.hollowgen.net

http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading
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