From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V4 #497 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Thursday, January 11 2001 Volume 04 : Number 497 Re: (mobility) Cigarette + Vinyl Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) Re: (mobility) My Weakness Re: (mobility) Cigarette + Vinyl Re: (mobility) your heartfelt post (mobility) Re: love life anyway Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) (mobility) lyrics error (mobility) too tired tonight Re: (mobility) My Weakness (mobility) My Gift To You Re: (mobility) Re: racism southside non-issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:51:56 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) Cigarette + Vinyl Tim: I smoked for 20 years ages 13-33. I smoked Camel regulars for 15 of those 20 years. As young people, we tend to feel immortal and although we know all the bad stuff old folks tell us, we do it anyway. I came up in the 70's and you can only imagine how many drugs I tried and did regularly. I am grateful that I stopped all that. It just became inconvenient. With cigs, I developed an annoying little cough and thought it was unattractive. I stopped cold with half a pack in my bag and half a carton in my pantry for at least a month. I knew I was finished for sure when, one evening, I opened a bag of noodles and realized that noodles have a smell! I've been happily breathing since. Not to offend anyone but E can really fry your brain. Use with extreme caution please. Moderation in all things is really key (except loving Moby, of course!) Anne > - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:04:45 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) Matt: It was I who used African American in the same post, I think, as I asserted that PC is bullshit. Reason? I bet you are not white and my daughter certainly isn't black. She's brown. I'm light olive. I prefer to be referred to as caucasian than white. Person of colour doesn't quite work because we are all colours. Many Jamaican folks are brown. Many Asian folks are an eggshell colour. Heck, I don't know! It's a funny conundrum, eh? Anne "better yet, don't talk about race!" - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:00:32 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) Interesting, but actually, it wasn't me who brought up that point, it was= DJ PAUL. I just agreed with what he said. :) - -Matt >Matt: It was I who used African American in the same post, I think, as I >asserted that PC is bullshit. Reason? I bet you are not white and my >daughter certainly isn't black. She's brown. I'm light olive. I prefer= to >be referred to as caucasian than white. Person of colour doesn't quite= work >because we are all colours. Many Jamaican folks are brown. Many Asian >folks are an eggshell colour. Heck, I don't know! It's a funny= conundrum, >eh? Anne > >"better yet, don't talk about race!" - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:10:55 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) My Weakness Did you check out http://www.moby.org ? They have a lot of lyrics, I printed some out for my own edification. In fact, during the Scottish show, he referred to "Honey" as a really dirty song in Old English. Now I know. Anne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Olson" To: "Mobility" Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: (mobility) My Weakness I know this has been posted before, but I don't recollect anyone responding. Does anyone know exactly what is being said in "My Weakness"? I've wondered that forever. Not really cared, because it's a great song nonetheless, but still... it would be so grand if someone were to know for sure! Thanks - -Matt - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:23:09 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) Cigarette + Vinyl Bravo! Especially the drinking which is so hard to avoid. Ironic, as everyone knows, the most deadly drugs are the legal ones. Maybe someday the FDA will wake up and legalize marijuana so people will be mellow instead of idiots and dead. Anne (glad for the 1st amendment!) P.S. Caffeine in small amounts is actually beneficial, I've heard "them" say. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:29:42 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) your heartfelt post I'm intrigued-who thinks I'm not cool? It's cool if you don't, I'd love to know why you think that. Anne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" What I meant is that popular belief is against me thinking that Anne is cool. Sorry. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ > > - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:42:37 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: (mobility) Re: love life anyway Paul: There are riches greater than these...I used to get disgusted too until I did realize that I will never have diamonds dripping off every part of my body, or mansions in pastoral settings, or Prada on my back. What I do have, I cherish-the sky, a cat curled up in the sun on an old chair, a hot cup of strong coffee in the morning, a beautiful face to glance at in the street, free concerts, all my senses, Moby...sometimes we lose the ability to be soooo corny everyone will barf when they read this-hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Anne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Paul Simpson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) i think looking at all these damn rich people with all their cars and "ice" and shit is nauseating. i mean, i know i'll never have that much money, i'll never be rich, i'll never be famous, etc. so i look at all that shit as impossible. i guess that's just me but anyway it still kind of disturbs me. > > > > > > ===== > __________________________________________________ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:56:22 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: Re: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) If you are interested, please read my post to Matt on this subject 1/10/01, 8pm. It should have been posted to you. Anne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Paul Simpson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something) > > > i noticed somebody used the term "african american" > here. sorry, this is kind of a pet peeve, but.... > please don't! that phrase makes smoke come out of my > ears. it sounds way too politically correct. and the > same people who are too timid to call black people > black will easily call white people white. thats what > really bugs me. > > or, better yet, don't talk about race! > > ROCK! > DJ PAUL > > > ===== > "I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:04:44 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: (mobility) lyrics error This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C07B59.B8B43EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lyrics were found at http://mobymusic.com/lyrics. Sorry for the mislead. = Anne - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C07B59.B8B43EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lyrics were found at http://mobymusic.com/lyrics. = Sorry for=20 the mislead.  Anne
- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C07B59.B8B43EE0-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:08:02 -0800 From: "crowes3" Subject: (mobility) too tired tonight This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07B5A.2EC96EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lyrics to My Weakness not there. I guess Moby wants us to keep = guessing. Goodnight. A. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07B5A.2EC96EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lyrics to My Weakness not there.  = I guess Moby=20 wants us to keep guessing.  Goodnight. = A.
- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C07B5A.2EC96EC0-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:25:55 EST From: Bijou75@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) My Weakness - --part1_e1.ec78fef.278eba03_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/09/2001 2:55:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, TEllorin@mediabrains.com writes: >> And then my favorite Moby song of all time is Living. I can listen to this song over and over and over...until the cows come home. It has such a melancholy overtone throughout most of the song until the end where it seems to be almost overwhelming with feeling, like this building of emotion until it seems it is going to burst. I listen to this song and I am reminded of the line in "American Beauty" "Sometimes there's so much beauty I feel like I can't take it, like my heart's going to cave in." << "My Weakness" has always reminded me of the exact same quote. I can only listen to it very occasionally, because it never fails to make me cry. It's one of two songs, the other being R.E.M.'s "Find the River," I would want played at my funeral. As for the lyrics.. to me emotion is more universal than language. In a way it would kinda ruin it if I knew what the lyrics actually meant. But that's just me... - --Carrie - --part1_e1.ec78fef.278eba03_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 01/09/2001 2:55:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TEllorin@mediabrains.com writes:


>> And then my favorite Moby song of all time is Living.  I can listen to
this song over and over and over...until the cows come home.  It has such a
melancholy overtone throughout most of the song until the end where it seems
to be almost overwhelming with feeling, like this building of emotion until
it seems it is going to burst.  I listen to this song and I am reminded of
the line in "American Beauty" "Sometimes there's so much beauty I feel like I
can't take it, like my heart's going to cave in."  <<

"My Weakness" has always reminded me of the exact same quote.  I can only
listen to it very occasionally, because it never fails to make me cry.  It's
one of two songs, the other being R.E.M.'s "Find the River," I would want
played at my funeral.  As for the lyrics.. to me emotion is more universal
than language.  In a way it would kinda ruin it if I knew what the lyrics
actually meant.  But that's just me...

--Carrie - --part1_e1.ec78fef.278eba03_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:24:54 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: (mobility) My Gift To You I was listening to my live Moby stuff once again, and I came across one of= his fantastic renditions of "California Love" (by tupac and dr. dre) and I= uploaded it to the Mobility FTP for everyone. It's a rather small file,= so no one should have trouble downloading it. Enjoy! :) ftp://207.227.22.17/_vti_pvt/for/Mobility/by%20TripWire/ - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:03:08 +0000 From: Martin James Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: racism southside non-issue > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062055790_98496_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello... I noticed there's been a bit of discussion about the actual meaning of the lyrics to 'Southside', so I dug out this quote from my book for you. "'Southside' =AD actually I feel dumb talking about what the songs are about because maybe they can be about different things to different people =AD but essentially 'Southside' is supposed to be about being in some post-apocalyptic gang. It's a post-apocalyptic gang song where the world ha= s destruction and violence as a natural part of life." I haven't seen the video so I can't comment on the racism claim, although I would be extremely shocked if it was. Just as surprised as I am to think that people can read racial issues into the lyrics to the song. There many things that you could accuse Moby of but racism (or any other intolerance issue) is not one of them. Whatever. Hope this is at least a little bit enlightening. on 11/1/01 5:15, Kid Ren at kidren@optonline.net wrote: also.... this is moby we're talking about. the most non rasist person i know of maybe. common. - ----- Original Message ----- From: crowes3 To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: (mobility) Re: racism southside non-issue What's all this about racism? Southside is a good, fun song-it can refer t= o anyone. My daughter is African-American (or black, if you will), I work with mostly African-Americans, I get along with cool people of all races an= d cultures. I don't think about it most of the time. There are cultural differences but as someone said, there are cultural differences within racial groups. So why all this fuss? Some people are stand-offish, some are friendly, some make pre-mature assumptions that they later find out wer= e wrong. PC is bullshit. Keep it real and others will too. And by the way, I make time for mobility because I like it. Anne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Michael Bourke" > > - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062055790_98496_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (mobility) Re: racism southside non-issue
Hello...
I noticed there's been a bit of discussion about the actual meaning of the = lyrics to 'Southside', so I dug out this quote from my book for you.

"'Southside' =AD actually I feel dumb talking about what the songs are a= bout because maybe they can be about different things to different people =AD = but essentially 'Southside' is supposed to be about being in some post-apoca= lyptic gang. It's a post-apocalyptic gang song where the world has destructi= on and violence as a natural part of life."

I haven't seen the video so I can't comment on the racism claim, although I= would be extremely shocked if it was. Just as surprised as I am to think th= at people can read racial issues into the lyrics to the song. There many thi= ngs that you could accuse Moby of but racism (or any other intolerance issue= ) is not one of them. Whatever. Hope this is at least a little bit enlighten= ing.



on 11/1/01 5:15, Kid Ren at kidren@optonline.net wrote:

also....
this is moby we're talking about. the most non rasist person i know of mayb= e.
common.
----- Original Message -----
From: crowes3 <mailto:crowes3@email.msn.com>  
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:32 PM
Subject: (mobility) Re: racism southside non-issue

What's all this about racism?  Southside is a good, fun song-it can re= fer to
anyone.  My daughter is African-American (or black, if you will), I wo= rk
with mostly African-Americans, I get along with cool people of all races an= d
cultures.  I don't think about it most of the time.  There are cu= ltural
differences but as someone said, there are cultural differences within
racial groups.  So why all this fuss?  Some people are stand-offi= sh, some
are friendly, some make pre-mature assumptions that they later find out wer= e
wrong.  PC is bullshit.  Keep it real and others will too.  = And by the way,
I make time for mobility because I like it.  Anne
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Michael Bourke"
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