From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V4 #505 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Sunday, January 21 2001 Volume 04 : Number 505 Re: (mobility) moby-online Re: (mobility) moby-online (mobility) OT Computer Troubles.... PLEASE HELP!!!!! Re: (mobility) OT Computer Troubles.... PLEASE HELP!!!!! Re: (mobility) moby-online Re: (mobility) moby-online Re: (mobility) moby-online Re: (mobility) OT kinda debate Re: (mobility) OT kinda debate (mobility) New Member (mobility)DEE JAY ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:05:25 -0800 From: "Kid Ren" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08324.B5CF58E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Caetano78@aol.com=20 To: mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online well...i just spoke to moby two seconds ago and i bitched and = moaned..he told=20 me his cockroaches living in his apartment are the current hired techs = who=20 run the site..they have been on strike for the past few days and = stopped=20 running the site completely...after the explanation, moby hung up on = me..=20 HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20 LOVE..ELIE=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08324.B5CF58E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From:=20 Caetano78@aol.com
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Saturday, January 20, = 2001 5:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) = moby-online

well...i = just spoke to=20 moby two seconds ago and i bitched and moaned..he told
me his = cockroaches=20 living in his apartment are the current hired techs who
run the = site..they=20 have been on strike for the past few days and stopped
running the = site=20 completely...after the explanation, moby hung up on me..
HAVE A = LITTLE=20 SENSE OF HUMOR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE..ELIE=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08324.B5CF58E0-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:13:31 EST From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online - --part1_61.aa7ccf4.279b9fcb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you!! i guess the moby-online site is just having some problems...i don't know..love..elie - --part1_61.aa7ccf4.279b9fcb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you!!  i guess the moby-online site is just having some problems...i
don't know..love..elie
- --part1_61.aa7ccf4.279b9fcb_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) OT Computer Troubles.... PLEASE HELP!!!!! Alright. We got the DSL line hooked up. First I can't use Windows Media Player anymore to listen to online radio. In desperation, I dl RealPlayer, and that works. Fine. Now, I can't use either of those. Whenever we connect onto the internet, it brings up the Dial-Up screen, despite the fact that it's already connected by DSL. And when I try to use the Windows Media Player OR the Real Player, it says it's not connected, and brings up the stupid Dial-Up screen again. WHAT THE MOTHER FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!? Please, PLEASE, somebody tell me how to fix this, or how to find out how to fix this. I can't stand this. This is the motherfucking future, we should be allowed to do whatever the fuck we want on these damn computers, when we want, and not have to worry about stupid shit like this. We got a whole new computer and a whole new DSL connection shit to avoid shit like this, WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS SHIT....... Sorry, I know I am overreacting, but technology is my enemy, I HATE computers, I hate shit like this..... if it weren't for all you cool people, I wouldn't even be here........ Thanks in advance. Anyway ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:57:29 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) OT Computer Troubles.... PLEASE HELP!!!!! Pauly... do you use Windows 98/NT/95, what? - -Matt >Alright. > >We got the DSL line hooked up. >First I can't use Windows Media Player anymore to >listen to online radio. In desperation, I dl >RealPlayer, and that works. Fine. > >Now, I can't use either of those. Whenever we connect >onto the internet, it brings up the Dial-Up screen, >despite the fact that it's already connected by DSL. > >And when I try to use the Windows Media Player OR the >Real Player, it says it's not connected, and brings up >the stupid Dial-Up screen again. > >WHAT THE MOTHER FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!? > >Please, PLEASE, somebody tell me how to fix this, or >how to find out how to fix this. I can't stand this. >This is the motherfucking future, we should be allowed >to do whatever the fuck we want on these damn >computers, when we want, and not have to worry about >stupid shit like this. We got a whole new computer and >a whole new DSL connection shit to avoid shit like >this, WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS SHIT....... > >Sorry, I know I am overreacting, but technology is my >enemy, I HATE computers, I hate shit like this..... if >it weren't for all you cool people, I wouldn't even be >here........ - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:39:46 EST From: Bbarry5608@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online - --part1_52.62aa4bc.279c5cc2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cant reach it either! - --part1_52.62aa4bc.279c5cc2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cant reach it either! - --part1_52.62aa4bc.279c5cc2_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:16:11 EST From: Baybeedrea216@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online - --part1_17.108d5b49.279cc7bb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what r u talking about? - --part1_17.108d5b49.279cc7bb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what r u talking about? - --part1_17.108d5b49.279cc7bb_boundary-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:21:40 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby-online - --=====_98011930016827=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here's a better question... what's wrong with you? hah ta ta On 01/21/2001 at 6:16 PM Baybeedrea216@aol.com wrote: what r u talking about? - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - --=====_98011930016827=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
here's a better question... what's wrong with you?
 
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ta ta


On 01/21/2001 at 6:16 PM Baybeedrea216@aol.com wrote:
what r u talking about?


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- --=====_98011930016827=_-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:36:36 +0000 From: Martin James Subject: Re: (mobility) OT kinda debate > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3062968597_312780_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The question is: Should DJ's be considered musicians? Contemporary dance culture is generally considered to have started around 1987, surely this debate is about 14 years past its sell by date now? The problem I have with thi question is that it seems to imply that one is in some way superior to the other. I know great musicians who can't DJ, great DJs whose own music is shite. I've had some of the best nights in my life to a soundtrack provided by a DJ. Similarly I've been to gigs which have literally changed life. To me the two are synonymous with each other. Different skills. Equally worthy. So tell me... should someone who can't play a note but understands how to sample someone else's records be called a musician or a DJ? Or does it really matter anymore. Here's another question: would Moby's music sound the way it does if he had never been a DJ? Martin - --MS_Mac_OE_3062968597_312780_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (mobility) OT kinda debate
The question is:

Should DJ's be considered musicians?


Contemporary dance culture is generally considered to have started around 1= 987, surely this debate is about 14 years past its sell by date now?

The problem I have with thi question is that it seems to imply that one is = in some way superior to the other. I know great musicians who can't DJ, grea= t DJs whose own music is shite. I've had some of the best nights in my life = to a soundtrack provided by a DJ. Similarly I've been to gigs which have lit= erally changed life. To me the two are synonymous with each other. Different= skills. Equally worthy.

So tell me... should someone who can't play a note but understands how to s= ample someone else's records be called a musician or a DJ? Or does it really= matter anymore.

Here's another question: would Moby's music sound the way it does if he had= never been a DJ?

Martin







 - --MS_Mac_OE_3062968597_312780_MIME_Part-- - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:53:53 +0000 From: Martin James Subject: Re: (mobility) OT kinda debate And DJ Craze - surely the John Coltrane of the decks! M on 19/1/01 22:57, Paul Cross at pcross@precisioneng.com wrote: > look at DJ Qbert that guy is a total musician....and Mix Master Mike, A Track, > DJ Swamp, just to name a few... > > P. > > > >>>> Insrtbrain@aol.com 01/19/01 02:54PM >>> > Hello mobility, > > I've been having this debate with a few people, and I figured the people of > mobility would have plenty to say about this. The question is: > > Should DJ's be considered musicians? > > My theory is no, because the term musicians should be synomous with artist. > Moby is a musician, no doubt, who also occasionally DJ's. > > Musicians create something new out of their own minds and resources. DJ's > just take what is already created and essentially glue it together. It's > like getting a craft set with all the materials and instructions and then > putting it together. That does not qualify as art, but as a craft. Two > seperate things. > > And this in no way is to put down DJ's. I have tremendous respect for DJ's. > They have an immensly cool skill and it does take talent. But it does not > fall under my definition of artist. > > Anyone have thoughts on this one? > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:09:06 EST From: Rahnecloud@aol.com Subject: (mobility) New Member - -Lindsay - -15 - -Play - -My brother(16 years old) got me hooked and i got a copy of his cd and it's good, I really enjoy it, the music can be adapted for so many differnet things/feelings. I really liked Play, so I'm hoping his other albums will be just as cool. - -I like Everclear, Beck, George Gershwin, alternative, rock, and techno..... to name a few - -I am bored alot when I'm online - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:16:49 -0800 From: "kiwi_kiwi" Subject: (mobility)DEE JAY It's kinda Long Sorry!!! The question is: Should DJ's be considered musicians? (In my opinion this is one of the Fucking Dumbest Questions that I have heard!!!) A Big Fuck you to whoever wrote this question !! ( Whit no harm! really I really don't mean it to be mean!) It's not a fucking Question of Should.. Dj is a fucking Musician. Scratch DJ/ Hip Hop DJ ----> I wanna see another muther fucker out there using anything that would make a sound of Crab Scratching and Scratch from a Bass, Snare, People saying phrases.. It's making music that's what it is. It's so hard for people to accept that they are using something originally used from palying back music to fucking create music now! Beat Juggling is the SHIT!!! Dj Qbert, Shortkut, Mixmaster Mike, Dj Craze, A-Trak, SPINBAD!!, JS-One, Babu, Rhetmattic, J-Rocc, Cut Chemist, Dj Nu-Mark ---- These are the best turntablists on Earth!! and they are musicians Club DJ -----> Yea sure They're one of the greatest musicians alive they have their own ways of interpreting the music. They don't simply play the track next to next. It's like a Orchestra playing a piece of music written by Mozart sure they don't have live instruments to add to the flavour but still you have to have a musical mind and a flow of how the music goes YOU CAN'T GO AHEAD AND MIX THEIVERY CORPORATION WITH SOMETHING FROM RICHARD "HUMPTY" VISSION !!! by the way big Fuck You to the both of them They suck >>>!!>>D>!@>@#@> John Digweed, Sasha, Darren Emerson, Danny Tenaglia, the world's best Dj CARL COX, the Worlds #2 Dj Paul Okenfold They are the best and if you haven't heard their greatness go cop it! So tell me... should someone who can't play a note but understands how to sample someone else's records be called a musician or a DJ? Or does it really matter anymore. It fucking doesn't matter. Musicians create music eh? Dj's are musicians so it doesn't matter. Sampling beats are cool that's how beat juggling came along!! and you know what?? big fuck you to Vanilla Ice and Puff Daddy they corrupt Sampling Dj Shadow one of the greatest beat sampler alive!! along with Chief Excel!!! Here's another question: would Moby's music sound the way it does if he had never been a DJ? Moby's music eh?? on "play"?????? man I barely see a concept of Dance music on it..... it sounds alternative to me. That's why the general Americans are buying it . The concept of Dance music was lost pretty much by "Animal rights".... to me Moby hasn't made a follow up to "Everything Is Wrong" If you think I'm wrong well, I'll settle beef wit y'all and until then what ever you say dosen't mean shit to me coz I can't see it!! later Keiichi aka Dj Khemi-KAL - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V4 #505 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.