From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V4 #536 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, February 14 2001 Volume 04 : Number 536 RE: (mobility) Collaborating Re: (mobility) Been here a while (bringin' back sweet memories) RE: (mobility) Collaborating ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:45:02 -0500 From: Tim Ellorin Subject: RE: (mobility) Collaborating Should we give you two some privacy for a little while. Things seem to be getting sort of kinky in here. :^P tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric [mailto:stale8975@excite.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:46 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Collaborating > > > > Thanks brotha! You're a groovy kat too! Well I just want > everyone on the > list to see this. I'm not such a bad guy... And my penis is > bigger than > everyone's. (giggles) > > MOBY FOREVER!! > > Eric The Red > > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:02:04 -0800 (PST), > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > EricTheRed is my favourite! =) > > > > --- Eric wrote: > > > > > > No problem! > > > > > > Eric The Red > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:41:28 -0800 (PST), > > > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > > > > > THANKS! I'm old! > > > > > > > > > > Old people are cool! > > > > > > > > > > Eric The Red > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:22:59 -0800, > > > > > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I agree...why is collaboration a negative > > > thing? > > > > > Jazz musicians have > > > > > been > > > > > > doing it for ages, like, switching, playing > > > with > > > > > different people, > > > > > different > > > > > > vocalists, styles etc. And why shouldn't > > > Moby be > > > > > rich and famous? It's > > > > > > probably fun, better than being poor and > > > > > miserable. My husband made a > > > > > good > > > > > > point, though. He said that he thought Moby > > > was > > > > > exploiting himself in a > > > > > > rather grotesque manner and that a low-key > > > > > approach to riches and fame > > > > > would > > > > > > have been more suitable. I tend to agree. > > > Anne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "ddonk" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:31 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: (mobility) Collaborating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...this goes back to the same old debate. > > > > > people > > > > > > > wanna keep what the think/feel is their > > > own > > > > > "secret", > > > > > > > just that...a secret! and when Moby > > > became > > > > > such a > > > > > > > "hit", all of those people feel betrayed > > > > > basically > > > > > > > because they have some sort of insecurity, > > > or > > > > > general > > > > > > > anger towards things. I'm not really into > > > the > > > > > > > collaboration with Gwen, but that doesn't > > > mean > > > > > much. > > > > > > > I just like the original better. Good for > > > him > > > > > that he > > > > > > > is doing better financially! > > > > > > > Does anyone think that when Moby made > > > this > > > > > album he > > > > > > > thought "With this album, I will sell 2 > > > million > > > > > > > copies! This will be my best selling > > > album to > > > > > date! > > > > > > > I will be a media darling!! I am writing > > > this > > > > > album > > > > > > > because I know it will sell MILLIONS of > > > > > copies!!!" > > > > > > > No...he was just making an album that HE > > > > > liked, and > > > > > > > that he obviously hoped would touch > > > somebody in > > > > > some > > > > > > > way.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tim Ellorin > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Why is it so bad that Moby collaborated > > > with > > > > > Gwen? > > > > > > > > I mean, why is it that > > > > > > > > people seem to think this is just a sign > > > of > > > > > fame > > > > > > > > corrupting Moby? Why not > > > > > > > > think of it as being a compliment to > > > Moby for > > > > > other > > > > > > > > artists to collaborate > > > > > > > > with him. He is getting respect from > > > other > > > > > > > > musicians. Is this such a bad > > > > > > > > thing? Believe me, I much more prefer > > > the > > > > > Southside > > > > > > > > without her vocals on > > > > > > > > it, but that is just my humble opinion. > > > And > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Honey remix with Kelis was > > > > > > > > absolute C-R-A-P, CRAP. (Another one of > > > my > > > > > humble > > > > > > > > opinions) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me ask this question. Is Carlos > > > Santana > > > > > a sell > > > > > > > > out? I mean come on. > > > > > > > > His Supernatural album was only > > > > > collaborations with > > > > > > > > top pop artists. But > > > > > > > > that also means that these artists > > > respect > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > Santana that they would > > > > > > > > perform with him. Anyway, I think MOby > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > happy that he is getting > > > > > > > > the recognition he deserves from fans > > > and > > > > > from other > > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail > > > to > > > > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in > > > the > > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > "For NASA, space is still a high > > > priority." > > > > > > > -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from > > > Yahoo! > > > > > Mail - only $35 > > > > > > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail > > > to > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in > > > the > > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It's not easy being green" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > > > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the > > > body. > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > ===== > > "For NASA, space is still a high priority." > > -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > ------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > > "It's not easy being green" > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:01:41 +0100 From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Been here a while (bringin' back sweet memories) First....I hope your're all having a nicer valentines day than I have... >At the time, there was still a bit of disagreement over the whole Animal Rights shocker. >People on the list were familiar with each other, as it had been a small group that had >been writing together for a while. The big difference in the list between then and now is, >I think, that everybody present wanted to be there. I mean this in the sense that Moby was >not famous yet, and just had an unusual reputation in certain cirles. So the people on the >list had found Moby and taken a special effort to learn and listen more about him. Nowadays, >the average Moby fan is a casual fan, not a musical seeker or explorer. Allthough I wasn't here from the beginning (I joined February 1999) I still had the luck of sharing that good old atmosphere that I just don't feel here any more, perhaps it's because some of the people I really liked to talk to went off the list because of the occasional flames (Tim Beecher, Darknessintolight, Rob Skipworth, Dr Killpatient, Kohut (from the czech republic) etc.) I don't know... I also miss the great informative posts of Daniel Cerman and Damian and yes, Steve. >I used to write a lot to the list. I wrote about hearing Moby in public, which then was very rare and unusual, >I wrote about hearing him at raves, playing his music for my family, concert experiences, and I posted >interview links and news articles. I reviewed a few 12" records, including some of the Trophy line. I reread >the reviews about six months ago, and my descriptions were clumsy and my musical vocabulary limited, >especially in regard to dance music. Go read the Brotherhood review at moby.org for the worst example. >The rest are floating through the archives somewhere. It may not mean much, but I am eternally grateful for that! Those great reviews also made me review the stuff I had in my (at the time still pretty small) collection. And because I don't have English as my native language, my reviews even sounded more stuped than Steve's :) What the hell, I saved my entries for the review contest Steve organised once (Damn, I still regret not accepting the first prize! I haven't found that record since! Steve do remeber what recordt the first prize was? :) I'll post those reviews in the next couple of days for old times sake. >I also used to post long list of sales. I used to buy Moby records almost compulsively, so I was always >searching for something else. I'd find Instinct vinyl, weird Elektra promos, and so forth, and I would post >these massive lists of records and where to buy them. I eventually stopped when I realized almost nobody >was paying attention or buying from my links. I got some of my finest Moby items from your links, Go 12" FOOT15, I Feel It 12" (those I can remember) >I think I was the one that made Action Records popular on this >list, but Brad C. may have already known about the store before I started posting the link. They had shirts >and videos, too, and I always wanted to order from them. I never have. You should try it once, their service is great. >I got to throw a trivia contest on the list for V2 back in early 1999. Moby signed 10 Honey/Run On singles >for the winner. That was a definite highlight for me. I still look at it every night before I go to sleep :) Anyhow, I'll go on like nothing happened. Expect some reviews of my recent finds soon: Go 12" EX-229, Go 12" on D-Vision label, and I'll try to find some things that haven't been reviewed before. I'm very busy with school this year so I don't have the time to write those elaborate messages any more, but I may be able to crank out a review or two tomorrow. Bart np: Kariya - Let me love you for tonight (12" Mix) [the mother of all vocal house tunes!] - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:18:32 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: RE: (mobility) Collaborating BWA HA HAHAHAHA HA HAHAHA - nope. No privacy needed. Eric The Red On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:45:02 -0500, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > Should we give you two some privacy for a little while. Things seem to be > getting sort of kinky in here. :^P > > tim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric [mailto:stale8975@excite.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:46 PM > > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (mobility) Collaborating > > > > > > > > Thanks brotha! You're a groovy kat too! Well I just want > > everyone on the > > list to see this. I'm not such a bad guy... And my penis is > > bigger than > > everyone's. (giggles) > > > > MOBY FOREVER!! > > > > Eric The Red > > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:02:04 -0800 (PST), > > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > > > EricTheRed is my favourite! =) > > > > > > --- Eric wrote: > > > > > > > > No problem! > > > > > > > > Eric The Red > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:41:28 -0800 (PST), > > > > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > THANKS! I'm old! > > > > > > > > > > > > Old people are cool! > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric The Red > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:22:59 -0800, > > > > > > mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree...why is collaboration a negative > > > > thing? > > > > > > Jazz musicians have > > > > > > been > > > > > > > doing it for ages, like, switching, playing > > > > with > > > > > > different people, > > > > > > different > > > > > > > vocalists, styles etc. And why shouldn't > > > > Moby be > > > > > > rich and famous? It's > > > > > > > probably fun, better than being poor and > > > > > > miserable. My husband made a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > point, though. He said that he thought Moby > > > > was > > > > > > exploiting himself in a > > > > > > > rather grotesque manner and that a low-key > > > > > > approach to riches and fame > > > > > > would > > > > > > > have been more suitable. I tend to agree. > > > > Anne > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "ddonk" > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:31 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: (mobility) Collaborating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...this goes back to the same old debate. > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > wanna keep what the think/feel is their > > > > own > > > > > > "secret", > > > > > > > > just that...a secret! and when Moby > > > > became > > > > > > such a > > > > > > > > "hit", all of those people feel betrayed > > > > > > basically > > > > > > > > because they have some sort of insecurity, > > > > or > > > > > > general > > > > > > > > anger towards things. I'm not really into > > > > the > > > > > > > > collaboration with Gwen, but that doesn't > > > > mean > > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > I just like the original better. Good for > > > > him > > > > > > that he > > > > > > > > is doing better financially! > > > > > > > > Does anyone think that when Moby made > > > > this > > > > > > album he > > > > > > > > thought "With this album, I will sell 2 > > > > million > > > > > > > > copies! This will be my best selling > > > > album to > > > > > > date! > > > > > > > > I will be a media darling!! I am writing > > > > this > > > > > > album > > > > > > > > because I know it will sell MILLIONS of > > > > > > copies!!!" > > > > > > > > No...he was just making an album that HE > > > > > > liked, and > > > > > > > > that he obviously hoped would touch > > > > somebody in > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > way.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tim Ellorin > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why is it so bad that Moby collaborated > > > > with > > > > > > Gwen? > > > > > > > > > I mean, why is it that > > > > > > > > > people seem to think this is just a sign > > > > of > > > > > > fame > > > > > > > > > corrupting Moby? Why not > > > > > > > > > think of it as being a compliment to > > > > Moby for > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > artists to collaborate > > > > > > > > > with him. He is getting respect from > > > > other > > > > > > > > > musicians. Is this such a bad > > > > > > > > > thing? Believe me, I much more prefer > > > > the > > > > > > Southside > > > > > > > > > without her vocals on > > > > > > > > > it, but that is just my humble opinion. > > > > And > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Honey remix with Kelis was > > > > > > > > > absolute C-R-A-P, CRAP. (Another one of > > > > my > > > > > > humble > > > > > > > > > opinions) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me ask this question. Is Carlos > > > > Santana > > > > > > a sell > > > > > > > > > out? I mean come on. > > > > > > > > > His Supernatural album was only > > > > > > collaborations with > > > > > > > > > top pop artists. But > > > > > > > > > that also means that these artists > > > > respect > > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > Santana that they would > > > > > > > > > perform with him. Anyway, I think MOby > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > happy that he is getting > > > > > > > > > the recognition he deserves from fans > > > > and > > > > > > from other > > > > > > > > > musician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail > > > > to > > > > > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in > > > > the > > > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > "For NASA, space is still a high > > > > priority." > > > > > > > > -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from > > > > Yahoo! > > > > > > Mail - only $35 > > > > > > > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail > > > > to > > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in > > > > the > > > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It's not easy being green" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > > > > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > > > > majordomo@xmission.com > > > > > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the > > > > body. > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > "For NASA, space is still a high priority." > > > -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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