From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V4 #538 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Thursday, February 15 2001 Volume 04 : Number 538 RE: (mobility) Been here a while re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! (mobility) Thanks to mobility (mobility) welcome back steve Re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! Re: (mobility) MOBY (mobility) Moby to play at Grammy awards (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #536 Re: (mobility) Moby to play at Grammy awards re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! Re: (mobility) welcome back steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:02:16 From: "Steve Giles" Subject: RE: (mobility) Been here a while



>From: Tim Ellorin
> > Things change, and sadly, in life and on this list, we can
> > never live the
> > good times forever.
> >
>I think it is crazy how there seems to be certain people here who would
>believe that they are the best things to happen to this list since sliced
>bread. Why not lock the list down. No more new list members allowed
>because no one is or could be as cool as those who have been here since time
>began. Sorry, but I hate it when I hear people talk about how great things
>used to be and how they suck now. You sound like my grandparents. If this
>list is so bad, well then See Ya! Don't let the door hit you on the ass on
>the way out! But this is not to say that I particularly like some of the
>stuff that gets posted here. Yes this list has changed. But that is to be
>expected.

Whoa, grab a hold of that knee, it's jerking. There's a difference between us crowning ourselves God and remembering fondly the fun we had on this list. Besides, I'm trying right now to incite some actual content to replace the 7th grade chatroom.

(now I have to explain that I was generalizing and that it's not all like that, for instance, below)

>Anyway, I must say that a re-re-release of Play seems to be a little

>overboard. V2 is taking things way too far. Moves like this are what make
>Napster so appealing. That and the prices of CD's now is getting
>outrageous. Play right now is $22 in the music stores here. So, pay $22
>for the original. $22 for the Play b-sides release. $22 for the next
>release. $66 spent. That is of course if you are the type to buy every
>release. Personally I am not.
>
>Tim
 
The sharks need to eat, too. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Is it cheap and gimmicky? Yes. The easy way to react to this is to simply ignore it. The desire to own each and every last version will only lead you to resent the very music you're trying to enjoy.
 
For those that have complained that Moby is a sellout for this, or whatever incident, you should ask yourself this. Why do I listen to Moby? Is it for his music? Is it for his viewpoints and ethics? Is it both? Are the two inseparably entwined? I used to be big on Moby's viewpoints, but now I could care less. I can enjoy his music even if I disagree with him. The relationship between an artist and his audience is intimate, but it's also one-way. You feel close to him. Too many people have this imaginary marriage between themselves and their idol. They hold the idol responsible for upholding their (imagined) mutual point of view, because they have no other external affirmation of their belief or moral. They then feel betrayal when the idol/artist changes their minds, or behaves in a manner that contradicts the (imagined) contract between the artist and fan.
 
Now I'm just wanking, but I think there's some glimmer of truth in that muddled mess. What about you?
 
Steve, hopeful but not optimistic
 

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- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Elissa Brown Subject: re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! Paul wrote: > last digest there were eonly 3 messages!!!!!!!! > > come on, either delete the part of the message that yr > not replying to, or talk off of the list! lol, weren't you the one who said that you liked the long messages because they made digest come more often? good luck on your quest. i'm still in love with matt because he caved in when i wouldn't shut up. :-D oh, and also because of the EYTM acoustic live. matt will you be my valentine? also to everyone who is feeling a bit upset about the current state of the list.. i urge you all to stick it out and continue to post, and if you like, post as you did years ago, even if you think it's not reaching other members. i for one always find the posts of some of the more experienced members worth reading. please don't give up and jump ship. all mailing lists have life cycles. also, steve, is there a way for you to turn off your HTML coding? i enjoy your posts but sometimes it's hard to find your messages because of the tags. thanks everyone, much love.. elissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:59:57 -0800 From: "Matt Olson" Subject: re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! yeah yeah yeah and yeah. also, i'd love it if there were more moby discussions. that's what i'm= here for afterall. but i can't resist eric's posts either. he's a= genious. most of you all just don't see it. - -matt >good luck on your quest. i'm still in love with matt because he caved in= when i >wouldn't shut up. :-D oh, and also because of the EYTM acoustic live.= matt >will you be my valentine? > >also to everyone who is feeling a bit upset about the current state of the >list.. i urge you all to stick it out and continue to post, and if you= like, >post as you did years ago, even if you think it's not reaching other= members. >i for one always find the posts of some of the more experienced members= worth >reading. please don't give up and jump ship. all mailing lists have life >cycles. > >also, steve, is there a way for you to turn off your HTML coding? i enjoy= your >posts but sometimes it's hard to find your messages because of the tags. > >thanks everyone, much love.. >elissa > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. - -Matt - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --George W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ------ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:59:03 EST From: Feelingbadlyreal@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Thanks to mobility Hi all, i got back to reading mobility emails recently and i just wanted to thank Steve, Bart and all the others who helped me, when i joined in April 99 to get Moby stuff because at that time it was quite difficult to find any Moby single or cds such as Everything Is Wrong or Moby (remember the misprint with the Story So Far :) ) down here. With your help i managed to get a quite incredible collection of items (about 130 i think) from the man and though i'm not as an hardcore collecting man as before, i still look from time to time adress you gave to see if there's not something to get. So if Steve you're willing to sell your Botherhood 12", just tell me :) Mobility made me enjoy Moby and pushed me to make my own Moby site and my own mailing list on him (if there are any french speaking people, why not join it ? :) ) Just to say that don't be that nostalgic (is it english ?) or melancholic, i'm sure that when new material will be released, we'll get the return of reviews ... And Bart, i've still not located the Party Time single PARTY TIME REMIXES [Barracuda, Aug 1991] US 12", Instinct, EX-223X A1 5:58 Party Time (Original) A2 7:48 Party Time (Voodoo Child Mix) B1 6:12 Party Time (Moby Dub) B2 8:04 Party Time (Todd Terry's Cool Mix) And also, it is normally planned that on the the Dvd (to be released in june - - july) there will be a "megamix of Play tracks remixes" Looks like Evil Ninja is coming back !!!!!!!:) cheers, matthieu np: Craig Armstrong feat. Elizabeth Fraser - This Love - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: DJ Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) welcome back steve i forgot to do this before, so...... welcome back steve! or wait, were you actually away or did you just not post in forever... whatever. however, steve, on the digest thingy, it shows all the html tags, so its like hard to read the message... as for one liners that say nothing vs long messages that say nothing, which weighs more, a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers? HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL ===== "Are you a vegetarian?" Moby "Not really" Space Ghost, right before eating Moby ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: ddonk Subject: Re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! ...F***! mine are oozing as we speak!! - --- Eric wrote: > > Yea, even WITHOUT the other messages, your > messages make my eyes bleed > sometimes. > > Eric The Red > > > blah blah blah...like yer messages are never > lengthy > > =) > > > > --- DJ Paul Simpson > wrote: > > > last digest there were eonly 3 messages!!!!!!!! > > > > > > come on, either delete the part of the message > that > > > yr > > > not replying to, or talk off of the list! > > > > > > > > > thank you! > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: ddonk Subject: re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! I SEE IT!!! I DOOOOOO!!!!!! ...i also see christ on my front steps when come home early in the morning... anyone on this list from the BayArea going to GRATITUDE this Saturday? - --- Matt Olson wrote: > yeah yeah yeah > > and yeah. > > also, i'd love it if there were more moby > discussions. that's what i'm here for afterall. > but i can't resist eric's posts either. he's a > genious. most of you all just don't see it. > > -matt > ===== "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:44:07 -0800 (PST) From: ddonk Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ...i would like to talk about moby... "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US" - --- Matt Olson wrote: > Agreed. Say, anyone want to talk about Moby? > > -Matt > > ===== "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:14:08 -0800 (PST) From: Shaun Rader Subject: (mobility) Moby to play at Grammy awards Did anyone mention this yet? Rollingstone.com sent me an e-mail and it said "MOBY has signed on to perform at the Grammy Awards on February 21st". I'm not sure how I got on their mailing list.. was it some Moby contest possibly? But the message was just general music news so it's not like they send me only Moby related news. Anyways... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:14:44 EST From: Shelteringskies@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V4 #536 I wholeheartedly agree with DJPaul....I have stopped commenting lately, but it is getting really excessive.....all of those on the list have to realize how by indiscriminately including every message or even whole messages, the people who are responding are wasting the readers time and testing their patience. This clutter diminishes the list by making it so cluttered that the actual thoughts being shared are suffocated with the endless and unnecessary original quoted lines. By simply using cut and paste, under the word edit, to highlight and paste in only what you want to refer to, anyone responding to the list can avoid this. It is not difficult and may even be quicker. This is beyond a question of ignoring netiquette with this list, it is making many of the posts go unread due to frustration or just missing the posts amidst the mess altogether. Many people have interesting and informative posts, but with the quoted lines being three or four times or MORE the size of the post, I can't be bothered most of the time, regardless. Also, I second the advice mentioned already, "before I hit the Send button, I ask myself "Why am I writing/sending this?" Especially if it's going to a list of people." Sincerely Trying to be Constructive, E - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:05:36 -0500 From: paradox Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby to play at Grammy awards Not only that, but he's performing Natural Blues with BLUE MAN GROUP!! How freaking cool is that?? Except that now I have to watch the stupid Grammys. I swear, if those idiot Baha Men win... Paul >Did anyone mention this yet? Rollingstone.com sent me an e-mail and >it said "MOBY has signed on to perform at the Grammy Awards on >February 21st". I'm not sure how I got on their mailing list.. was >it some Moby contest possibly? But the message was just general >music news so it's not like they send me only Moby related news. Anyways... > - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: re: (mobility) yr messages are too long!!!!! Dude, you are the greatest. Thanks for the vote of confidence, because lately I've been getting alot of Sh*# and I just want to know that my writings are not in vain. I guess I'll try to make my posts a little better and I GUESS I'll cave in and make them shorter. It seems that is the "proper" thing to do. BTW, I liked the idea of making a video for one of Moby's songs. That's a very creative outlook that I can use to vent my hatred for country music. Eric The Red On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:59:57 -0800, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > yeah yeah yeah > > and yeah. > > also, i'd love it if there were more moby discussions. that's what i'm here for afterall. but i can't resist eric's posts either. he's a genious. most of you all just don't see it. > > -matt _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:26:42 From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) welcome back steve Thank you, Paul! I've been here the whole time, just mute. I was just full of hot air yesterday, so I vented it in this general direction. For some reason hotmail started automatically turning Rich Text Format on. I didn't notice, but I just killed Rich Text, which I assume is the HTML tags. Sorry about that. Here's another video: (come on people!) Find My Baby For this video I would do a collage of parodies of Paula Abdul videos. If you remember the song with Keanu Reeves in the video doing drag racing, (Forever Your Girl, maybe) and Paula in the saddle shoes and 50's outfit, and so forth, well, this is how I would dress Moby. I'm not quite sure if he'd get the good girl's outfit or the bad boy's leather. You decide. For the drag racing part, the cars would have to be stretch limosines. Then I would have Moby's love interest be the cartoon cat from that other Paula Abdul video. (don't look at me like that, Moby loves aminals tee hee) For the rest of the drag racing crowd I would invite other bald people to be them. They would have to wear whatever Moby wears, so all leather bad boys, or all saddle-shoes good girls. Michael Stipe, Jack Dangers, etc, the guy from Live, Vertical Horizon, etc. I don't remember how the drag race ends in Paula's video, but in this one Moby wins the race and his and the cat and the baldys all live happily ever after. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V4 #538 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.