From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #31 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Wednesday, June 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 031 Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - not really Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Re: [MV] Wild Things Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - not really RE: [MV] Re: Bladerunner [MV] Marketing Re: [MV] Marketing Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply [MV] parodies of Titanic/English Patient Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner [MV] Bad Influence [MV] The War [MV] Favourites Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner Re: [MV] City of Angels ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 10:22:48 -0400 From: Chris Culligan Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Damn good example!! I remember sneaking out of my house to go see Halloween with some fiends when I was a kid. I, to this day, have never been as scared at a movie as I was that evening (except for, maybe, when viewing the uncut version of The Exorcist. But that's a different story). The only thing that kept me sitting in that seat was pure peer presure. If I had been alone, I would have walked out during the opening credits. I slept with my light on for days after. When I got a chance to see the movie again later in life, it made me laugh at how scared I had been. This was after seeing about half-a-dozen more slasher flicks. Today, I wouldn't even bother renting one. They are just a plain bore to me (I did like Scream, but for the twist it put on the slasher genre, not because it scared me). CHRIS > >Its true, I saw Blade Runner several years after its original release in >theatres. So I probably had seen several imitators up to that point. > >I guess its like Halloween - if you saw it when it first came out you >appretiate it for the movie that it is. But if you saw it for the first time >today after watching 20 years of slasher flicks, in most cases you would >walk away unimpressed. > [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 10:36:20 -0400 From: Chris Culligan Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner BTW, a lot of people don't realize that the original slasher flick was not Halloween, but The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and some would argue that is was Psycho before that. (Was there a slasher before The Texas Chain Saw Massacre that I'm not thinking of??) The original Texas Chain Saw Massacre certainly was a Macab film. In some way's scarier then Halloween. It kind of had that truely low budget feel that made it seem like it was shot with a home movie camera, which gave the movie a sense of realism. Halloween had this to, which is one reason, I think, these two movies where so scary. Later slashers lacked this quality. CHRIS [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:58:09 -0300 From: "Phoenix" Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Culligan To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner >Damn good example!! > >I remember sneaking out of my house to go see Halloween with some fiends >when I was a kid. I, to this day, have never been as scared at a movie as >I was that evening (except for, maybe, when viewing the uncut version of >The Exorcist. But that's a different story). The only thing that kept me >sitting in that seat was pure peer presure. If I had been alone, I would >have walked out during the opening credits. I slept with my light on for >days after. When I got a chance to see the movie again later in life, it >made me laugh at how scared I had been. This was after seeing about >half-a-dozen more slasher flicks. Today, I wouldn't even bother renting >one. They are just a plain bore to me (I did like Scream, but for the >twist it put on the slasher genre, not because it scared me). > >CHRIS > My first experience with Halloween was during junior high, literally. The school showed it and the sequel on the last day before Christmas break. Obviously none of the teachers had ever seen it before. To this day that music still gets to me. But I agree after all these years of slasher flicks, the movie doesn't stand up in some respects. I still admire it for being the first of its kind, thereby making it the most original slasher flick ever. (Hey if Halloween never came along, Scream would never have existed.) But when I watch Halloween today, I do notice more often than I did 10 years ago just how cheesy and low budget it really was. Phoenix [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:49:51 -0300 From: "Phoenix" Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - not really - -----Original Message----- From: Anita Watts To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - not really >On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, greuel wrote: > Finally there is > going to be an original film. Next year there will be >a film about > three female private eyes who work for a mysterious man in >the > background - and it will be called Charlie's Angels. After all those >> remakes finally something original. > >Hi, couldn't resist de-lurking to ask you if you're kidding, or just young > > >Rumour says that Geri Something - > The artist formerly known as Ginger Spice is going to audition. A >> fine film and a brilliant actress. I can see some Oscar nominations. > > Oh I get it, you're kiddig LOL >Anita > > It wouldn't surprise me if Geri auditions. They have already cast the biggest bimbo on the planet, Jenny McCarthy, so they obviously are going for silicone rather than talent. Phoenix [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:32:37 -0300 From: "Phoenix" Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Culligan To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner >BTW, a lot of people don't realize that the original slasher flick was not >Halloween, but The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and some would argue that is >was Psycho before that. > >(Was there a slasher before The Texas Chain Saw Massacre that I'm not >thinking of??) > >The original Texas Chain Saw Massacre certainly was a Macab film. In some >way's scarier then Halloween. It kind of had that truely low budget feel >that made it seem like it was shot with a home movie camera, which gave the >movie a sense of realism. Halloween had this to, which is one reason, I >think, these two movies where so scary. Later slashers lacked this quality. > >CHRIS You could argue that both Psycho and Chainsaw Masacre were slashers, but in my opinion it would be a stretch. Chainsaw as I remember it, only features leatherface in the last 15 - 20 minutes of the film and he only killed people off when they invaded his privacy. (Although I may be way off on this as it has been about 10 years since I saw it, and wasn't real impressed with it at the time.) As to Psycho -- sure Norman Bates killed people but it was more of a calculated thing. I always equate slasher films as those where the killer slices and dices his victims with no apparent motive other than to increase the body count. Maybe I'm just splitting hairs. Phoenix [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:47:21 -0300 From: "Phoenix" Subject: Re: [MV] Wild Things - -----Original Message----- From: Carmine Pascuzzi. To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 3:39 AM Subject: [MV] Wild Things >I liked Wild Things very much. It has recently been released in Australia >and it will do well. >I like films with a touch of intrigue and plot twists. The acting is very >good, particularly by Neve Campbell, in a tough-girl character. Denise >Richards naturally stands out because of her alluring looks at Matt Dillon, >and the fact she possesses a great body. >She and Neve will continue to attract worthy roles in the future. >I've always liked Matt Dillon's work. He has been under-estimated, but >perhaps under-utilised. > >Carmine But the sad thing about Wild Things was the way that it was marketed. Most people didn't go to Wild Things because they though it was going to be a great movie (which it was). Most people went because they had heard about the threesome and Denise Richards' nude scene. Phoenix [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 13:28:11 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner - not really At 08.49 AM 07/06/98 cet, greuel wrote: >I hate to disprove your theory, but AFAIR there has been a Titanic >film in the 40s or 50s or some other decade that I'm sure someone >here can name. Hence the Cameron-Titanic you are presumably talking >about would not be original. There are three that I know of (and I know that there are even more that I don't): Titanic (1953) A Night to Remember (1958) the Titanic miniseries from about 10 years ago. No, Titanic itself was not an original idea. Neither was Bladerunner, for that matter (based on Philip K Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, and similar to many other movies, even the aforementioned Metropolis). But both presented it in an original way. And remember, this is coming from someone underimpressed with Titanic. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE ____________________________________________ That was a wicked googly! --Jerry Seinfeld, AMEX commercial ______________________________________________ [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 13:44:20 -0500 From: "Richard J. Doyle" Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Bladerunner Mario Bava's "Blood and Black Lace" and "Twitch of the Death Nerve" both predate "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and seem to qualify as slasher films. There are also various cheap horror films of the 60's by people like Herschel Gordon Lewis that seem to qualify. On the other hand, "Psycho" probably doesn't count because it has too developed a plot. Richard J. Doyle Access & Visual Basic Developer CRW Systems rdoyle29@msn.com ICQ# 9867240 Something for nothing. It can all be yours. Everything you know IS true. "Bob" is the proof. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-movies@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Culligan Sent: June 7, 1998 9:36 AM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Bladerunner BTW, a lot of people don't realize that the original slasher flick was not Halloween, but The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and some would argue that is was Psycho before that. (Was there a slasher before The Texas Chain Saw Massacre that I'm not thinking of??) The original Texas Chain Saw Massacre certainly was a Macab film. In some way's scarier then Halloween. It kind of had that truely low budget feel that made it seem like it was shot with a home movie camera, which gave the movie a sense of realism. Halloween had this to, which is one reason, I think, these two movies where so scary. Later slashers lacked this quality. CHRIS [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:04:30 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: [MV] Marketing At 01.47 PM 07/06/98 -0300, Phoenix wrote: >But the sad thing about Wild Things was the way that it was marketed. Most >people didn't go to Wild Things because they though it was going to be a >great movie (which it was). Most people went because they had heard about >the threesome and Denise Richards' nude scene. Hollywood screw up on marketing a movie?? Nah, never:-) I read an interview with Jim Carrey about his first foray into the "serious" comic roles, The Cable Guy. He is completely po'ed at the studio for marketing that movie the way they did. I actually liked the movie, and it even had an OK box office, worldwide (over $100 million). However, the problem was that everyone went to the movie expecting Ace Ventura. Carrey was not the star of this film. He was the villian. And it was a move into a completely new direction for him. Anyone that went to see it simply because "Ace" was in it was seriously shortchanged by the studio. And THAT is why the movie tanked. Of course, you would think that the studios would have learned their lesson, and you look around at the marketing for The Truman Show. Well, I just spoke to someone who liked the movie, BUT had to point out that it wasn't Ace Ventura. And this was a reasonably well-educated, intelligent guy (he's a Uni student, and both parents are professors). So maybe all the marketing is just a waste of time, anyway. Everything I have seen about Truman had to point out about it being a new type of role, and there are still people (who SHOULD know better) that are disappointed that they aren't getting Ace Ventura 3 (like that would be a good thing???) Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE ____________________________________________ That was a wicked googly! --Jerry Seinfeld, AMEX commercial ______________________________________________ [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 17:16:35 -0400 From: Chris Culligan Subject: Re: [MV] Marketing I liked The Cable Guy too. I think Carrey should have toned down his comedy even more in this role, though. As it was, it seemed like his character was just a bite to funney to be the serious villian he should have been. It was like the producers, or Carrey, wanted to hold on to that Ace Venture crowd, but they wanted to have him be a scarey psychopath to. Which just didn't quite work for me. At 03:04 PM 6/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >At 01.47 PM 07/06/98 -0300, Phoenix wrote: >>But the sad thing about Wild Things was the way that it was marketed. Most >>people didn't go to Wild Things because they though it was going to be a >>great movie (which it was). Most people went because they had heard about >>the threesome and Denise Richards' nude scene. > >Hollywood screw up on marketing a movie?? Nah, never:-) > >I read an interview with Jim Carrey about his first foray into the >"serious" comic roles, The Cable Guy. He is completely po'ed at the studio >for marketing that movie the way they did. I actually liked the movie, and >it even had an OK box office, worldwide (over $100 million). However, the >problem was that everyone went to the movie expecting Ace Ventura. > >Carrey was not the star of this film. He was the villian. And it was a >move into a completely new direction for him. Anyone that went to see it >simply because "Ace" was in it was seriously shortchanged by the studio. >And THAT is why the movie tanked. > >Of course, you would think that the studios would have learned their >lesson, and you look around at the marketing for The Truman Show. Well, I >just spoke to someone who liked the movie, BUT had to point out that it >wasn't Ace Ventura. And this was a reasonably well-educated, intelligent >guy (he's a Uni student, and both parents are professors). So maybe all >the marketing is just a waste of time, anyway. Everything I have seen >about Truman had to point out about it being a new type of role, and there >are still people (who SHOULD know better) that are disappointed that they >aren't getting Ace Ventura 3 (like that would be a good thing???) > >Regards, > >--Mel > > >--Mel Eperthener >president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty > >email: bcassidy@usaor.net > gowanna@australiamail.com > >http://www.webz.com/gowanna > >419 Butler Street >PO Box 95184 >Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 >(412) 781-6140 >(412) 781-6380 >1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE >____________________________________________ >That was a wicked googly! > --Jerry Seinfeld, AMEX commercial >______________________________________________ > > >[ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 08:32:56 +0800 From: Blacknight Subject: Re: [MV] English Patient -Reply Jayson wrote: > > > Maybe they translated it to parody Titanic. Of course, it would sound > awful and corny because we cannot directly translate English to > Filipino. > I'm sure the same thing would happen if the Good Will Hunting dialogue > will be translated in our vernacular. Oh, I'm a Gen-Xer from the > Philippines and I loved Titanic. It has all the formulas of being a > classic. > I don't they are trying to make a parody or something. If you are from the Philippines, you would have probably heard English songs translated into Tagalog or Bisaya songs. It comes out very corny and contrived. I don't know if I am a Gen-Xer like you but my age does fall between that limit and I am surely not your typical Filipino (I am living in Cebu). Most of the things I have watched and heard in this century are just pure crap. I am not pro-American but sometimes people of today have little sense of originality. The story of Good Will Hunting is not something new, basically it's a story of person who has a big chip on his shoulder. But compared to Titanic whose only claim to glory was hoopla and FX, Good Will Hunting has better acting and story. blacknight [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Anita Watts Subject: [MV] parodies of Titanic/English Patient On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Blacknight wrote: > Jayson wrote: > > parody Titanic. Of course, it would sound > > awful and corny I know I took this out of context, but the first thing that flashed into my mind, given the recent discussions of remakes, was a Leslie Nielson/Presley version of either of the two. Think it would work? Anita [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:32:56 -0700 From: Bruce Bridges Subject: Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner Halloween may have started the teen slasher films (there were plenty of gore films that date back to the early 60s) but it rated far above most of the imitators. Where the Friday the 13th movies depended on a new way to decapitate or disembowel its victims Halloween was made with skill in suspense. If I remember correctly there is not a scene in which you actually see any blood being spilled. I think Bladrunner is such a well liked movie for several different reasons. It was the a nice dark change from the other sci-fi films of its day and it did have a very cool look that has been copied hundreds of times. For me the most compelling part of the film was the drama surrounding the replicants and their search for an answer to their dilemma. Rutger Hauer was phenomenal as was Darryl Hannah, as was Sean Young. And Harrison Ford was pretty good himself. The movie was not a big hit with the public or critics when it came out and may have even been a financial failure but over the years it has taken on a new life and is finally recognized for the classic that it is. I know a lot of critics have revised their original review of the film. The same thing happened to "It's a Wonderful Life." We discussed on this list before that there is talk of a sequel. I think that would be a terrible mistake. The ending in which you (and the lead character) do not know his future is perfect. To give that closure would ruin it. Gary, We've been discussing remakes, retellings, revisions ad nauseum. What would be a list of your 5 favorite films. I wonder if we can list their source materials. bb [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:57:24 -0400 From: GARY ZEIG Subject: Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner >Halloween may have started the teen slasher films (there were plenty >of gore films that date back to the early 60s) but it rated far above >most of the imitators. Where the Friday the 13th movies depended on a >new way to decapitate or disembowel its victims Halloween was made >with skill in suspense. If I remember correctly there is not a scene >in which you actually see any blood being spilled. > >I think Bladrunner is such a well liked movie for several different >reasons. It was the a nice dark change from the other sci-fi films >of its day and it did have a very cool look that has been copied >hundreds of times. For me the most compelling part of the film was >the drama surrounding the replicants and their search for an answer >to their dilemma. Rutger Hauer was phenomenal as was Darryl Hannah, >as was Sean Young. And Harrison Ford was pretty good himself. The >movie was not a big hit with the public or critics when it came out >and may have even been a financial failure but over the years it has >taken on a new life and is finally recognized for the classic that it >is. I know a lot of critics have revised their original review of the >film. The same thing happened to "It's a Wonderful Life." > >We discussed on this list before that there is talk of a sequel. I >think that would be a terrible mistake. The ending in which you (and >the lead character) do not know his future is perfect. To give that >closure would ruin it. > >Gary, > >We've been discussing remakes, retellings, revisions ad nauseum. >What would be a list of your 5 favorite films. I wonder if we can >list their source materials. > >bb > >[ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] >[ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] Bruce- I'll give you a list of 6 mainstream films I liked a lot. And still do. 1. Pulp Fiction 2. The Crying Game 3. Blue Velvet 4. Rocky 5. Friday the 13th (the original) 6.The Legend of Billie Jean For what it's worth, I also really like the films of independent actress Tiffany Shepis, who is not real well known in mainstream America yet. If you haven't seen her yet in lesser known films like Shampoo Horns, Heavy Black Smokestack, Tromeo & Juliet, and Generation X, you should run to the nearest video store and demand to see these films. I'm not involved in b movies in any way, but I'm a great admirer as well of the acting talents of Jacqueline Lovell and Alexander Keith, names I'm sure you're not yet familiar with.B movies are my passion, but it's very hard to find knowledgeable people to discuss these movies with. But I really feel some of the best ideas today are in independent film, not Hollywood. Gary [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:31:09 -0400 From: GARY ZEIG Subject: [MV] Bad Influence Bruce: I just wanted to say that Bad Influence starring Rob Lowe and James Spader is another movie I loved. Gary [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:47:58 -0700 From: Judy Bradshaw Subject: [MV] The War If anyone wants to see a good movie, "The War", starring Kevin Costner is a great one. We saw it about 5 years ago, and everyone that I've recommended it to has loved it. Re-rented it recently for my family and they still loved it. [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 23:51:58 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: [MV] Favourites >>We've been discussing remakes, retellings, revisions ad nauseum. >>What would be a list of your 5 favorite films. I wonder if we can >>list their source materials. OK, I'll byte. Wonder what this says about me:-) (In no particular order) Star Wars Star Trek 2 The Usual Suspects Priscilla, Queen of the Desert Clerks This is off the top of my head, and if you were to ask me tomorrow, it might very well change. This is why I will not even attempt to put them in any sort of order Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE ____________________________________________ That was a wicked googly! --Jerry Seinfeld, AMEX commercial ______________________________________________ [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:13:27 -0500 From: "Tonya " Subject: Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner Hey I was just wondering about a movie you mentioned. It was Tromeo and Juliet. Since Romeo & Juliet is my FAVORITE movie (the new one), I was just wondering if Tromeo and Juliet had anything to do with the original play (like the storyline and words). Is it a very old movie? Who are the actors? Please give me some more info on this.... - -Tonya [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:30:21 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] Halloween/Bladerunner At 11.13 PM 09/06/98 -0500, Tonya wrote: >Hey I was just wondering about a movie you mentioned. It was Tromeo and >Juliet. Since Romeo & Juliet is my FAVORITE movie (the new one), I was >just wondering if Tromeo and Juliet had anything to do with the original >play (like the storyline and words). Is it a very old movie? Who are the >actors? Please give me some more info on this.... You liked Romeo and Juliet?? Then don't even ATTEMPT to watch this:-) I haven't seen this yet, but I am familiar with the studio that did this. Troma Team. Basically makes cheap c-grade movies, lots of skin, not lots of plot. Imagine that Joe Eszterhas (Showgirls, and I could have sworn he had SOMETHING to do with Striptease) teamed up with Mel Brooks or Leslie Neilson, and they made a parody of Shakespeare. That would be pretty close to what Tromeo acheives. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE ____________________________________________ That was a wicked googly! --Jerry Seinfeld, AMEX commercial ______________________________________________ [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:39:38 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: [MV] City of Angels From: "C. B. D." Hello, all! My name is Christiane; I live in Canada (suburbs of Montreal) and this is my first time contributing to "movies". I've been reading for a while, enjoying the debates and everybody's interesting and intelligent comments. Concerning the movie City of Angels, the trailers I've seen remind me of a German picture I saw in 1991 dealing with an angel falling in love with a human. I can't remember the title; only remember loving it tremendously. Peter Falk had a cameo. Was this "Wings of Desire" that was referred to in an earlier thread? This German picture touched me very deeply, and my initial reaction to the thought of Hollywood trying to copy it was that they would be unable to reproduce the depth of eloquence the previous production achieved. Is City of Angels a "rip-off"? A copy? "Inspired" by the German flick? Or a bonafide new story? In any case, does anyone know the movie I'm talking about? C.B.D. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "To be Greek one should have no clothes: To be medieval one should have no body: To be modern one should have no soul." - Oscar Wilde mailto:mishka@total.net [ To quit the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe movies" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #31 *************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]