From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #75 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Thursday, August 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 075 Re: [MV] there's something about mary.. Re: [MV] Negotiator review Re: [MV] Negotiator review Re: [MV] Snake Eyes review - not very good Re: [MV] Something about mary - a question... RE: [MV] Something about mary - a question... Re: [MV] The Parent Trap RE: [MV] Something about mary - a question... -Reply Re: [MV] The Parent Trap [MV] REVIEW: WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE [MV] 54 Re: [MV] Wild Things Re: [MV] Wild Things Re: [MV] Wild Things Re: [MV] Wild Things RE: [MV] Tonys ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:29:58 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: Re: [MV] there's something about mary.. >On 8/26/98, 10:34 AM -0500, Danielle Conkle said so nicely: >>Hey what is everyone's comments on "There's something about Mary" >>? > >I went expecting to be howling all over the place. But I just thought it >was gross. Some funny situations. I guess I just didn't get it. Maybe I >was in a bad mood when I saw it. I wouldn't recommend it. >~~~~~ >Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) ;) I'm torn on how i feel about the movie. I mean how do you describe it to somebody? I was more squirming, and laughing hysterically at the same time. But i don't know if i was laughing because i was uncomfortable or it was actually funny. Definitly give it snaps for being original though. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:31:45 -0600 (MDT) From: "Gene Ehrich " Subject: Re: [MV] Negotiator review We found it to be a really exciting movie going experience. Samuel T Jackson has an unbelievable screen presence and Kevin Spacey was good also. Outstanding movie going experience. At 05:20 PM 8/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >Tense, smart and amazing acting! I know that the preview kinda sucks - it >looks like they give away a lot of what's going to happen - but don't worry >- they don't give anything away. This is one is full of smart characters >and real situations. Great flick - reminds me slightly of the Fugitive. I >give it a wopping 89%. >Jay the Movieman >movieman@netcom.ca [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:39:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Gene Ehrich Subject: Re: [MV] Negotiator review We found it to be a really exciting movie going experience. Samuel T Jackson has an unbelievable screen presence and Kevin Spacey was good also. Outstanding movie going experience. At 05:20 PM 8/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >Tense, smart and amazing acting! I know that the preview kinda sucks - it >looks like they give away a lot of what's going to happen - but don't worry >- they don't give anything away. This is one is full of smart characters >and real situations. Great flick - reminds me slightly of the Fugitive. I >give it a wopping 89%. >Jay the Movieman >movieman@netcom.ca [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:40:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Gene Ehrich Subject: Re: [MV] Snake Eyes review - not very good At 10:38 PM 8/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >Brian DePalma (Mission:Impossible) directs Nicholas Cage in a tense >keep-your-eyes-on-the-screen thriller. I loved how this movie unfolded. As usual Cage was very good but the movie was not. Implausible plot and not very well done for a DePalma film. Not as bad as Armegeddon but no where near as good as The Negotiator which was great. One star movie - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.voicenet.com/~generic gene@ehrich.com Gene Ehrich P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 - ------------------------------------------------------ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:40:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Gene Ehrich Subject: Re: [MV] Something about mary - a question... At 08:47 AM 8/10/98 +0800, you wrote: >On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, David Lee wrote: > >> I've heard a couple of good reviews about the movie, Something About Mary, Probably the funniest movie we've seen in many, many years. Absolutely not to be missed unless you are prudish. >> that it's funny and all... could somebody be kind enough to tell me who is >> in the cast of the movie? Thanks. >> > >Cameron Diaz, Ben Stiller and Matt Dillon. And it's There's Something >About Mary. > > >Jayson >----------------- >I've been down this road walkin' the line >That's painted by pride >And I have made mistakes in my life >That I just can't hide >Oh I believe I am ready for what love has to bring >Got myself together, now I'm ready to sing. >I've been searching my soul tonight >I know there's so much more to life >Now I know I can shine a light >To find my way back home > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.voicenet.com/~generic gene@ehrich.com Gene Ehrich P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 - ------------------------------------------------------ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:44:06 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: RE: [MV] Something about mary - a question... I don't think one has to be a prude to be offended by "TSAM". I thought it was funny, quite funny in parts, but was embarassed to have taken my wife to it. It could have been just as funny without being offensive. Greg - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ehrich [SMTP:gregorys@xmission.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 2:41 PM To: Movies Mailing List Subject: Re: [MV] Something about mary - a question... At 08:47 AM 8/10/98 +0800, you wrote: >On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, David Lee wrote: > >> I've heard a couple of good reviews about the movie, Something About Mary, Probably the funniest movie we've seen in many, many years. Absolutely not to be missed unless you are prudish. >> that it's funny and all... could somebody be kind enough to tell me who is >> in the cast of the movie? Thanks. >> > >Cameron Diaz, Ben Stiller and Matt Dillon. And it's There's Something >About Mary. > > >Jayson >----------------- >I've been down this road walkin' the line >That's painted by pride >And I have made mistakes in my life >That I just can't hide >Oh I believe I am ready for what love has to bring >Got myself together, now I'm ready to sing. >I've been searching my soul tonight >I know there's so much more to life >Now I know I can shine a light >To find my way back home > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.voicenet.com/~generic gene@ehrich.com Gene Ehrich P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 - ------------------------------------------------------ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:43:15 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: Re: [MV] The Parent Trap >What did everyone think of "The Parent Trap"?--the new one, obviously. I >was pleasantly surprised and delighted to see some references to the old >version. Anyone see it? I thought it was a real cute movie. I've never seen the original, except for bits and parts, but i liked the new one. I thought the girl who played the twins acted really well. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:03:13 -0700 From: Bruce Bridges Subject: RE: [MV] Something about mary - a question... -Reply Gene, No, I think it pretty much had to be offensive to be so funny. The best parts were offensive. I think it was probably just not for you. bb [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:31:29 -0500 From: Diane Christy Subject: Re: [MV] The Parent Trap On 8/26/98, 3:43 PM -0500, Danielle Conkle said so nicely: > I thought it was a real cute movie. I've never seen the original, >except for bits and parts, but i liked the new one. I thought the girl >who played the twins acted really well. You should see the Hayley Mills verson. It was one of the movies that I really remember while growing up. I thought it was really cute and I thought they did a great job updating the story while still staying true to it. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com on AOL Instant Messenger on PeopleLink http://www.peoplelink.com/v1/ ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:08:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Scott Renshaw Subject: [MV] REVIEW: WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE (Warner Bros.) Starring: Larenz Tate, Halle Berry, Vivica A. Fox, Lela Rochon, Paul Mazursky. Screenplay: Tina Andrews. Producers: Paul Hall and Stephen Nemeth. Director: Gregory Nava. MPAA Rating: R (profanity, sexual situations, adult themes, violence) Running Time: 115 minutes. Reviewed by Scott Renshaw. I can understand why screenwriter Tina Andrews latched onto the story behind WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE for fifteen years. From a commercial standpoint, it has a great hook: the real-life story of three women who all claimed to be the legal widow of Frankie Lymon, lead singer of the 1950s doo-wop group the Teenagers (whose signature hit serves as the film's title). From a writer's standpoint, it offers the intriguing contradiction of its main character, a troubled soul who was a different man for each of his three different brides before dying of a drug overdose in 1968. It's a story with sex, drugs _and_ rock 'n' roll, as well as colorful characters a-plenty. Sure enough, this bio-pic offers loads of curb appeal. Unfortunately, Andrews and director Gregory Nava (SELENA) make a big mistake in their approach to the material -- they decide to turn it into a rock 'n' roll RASHOMON. The framing story opens in 1986, with three women - -- former Platters singer Zola Taylor (Halle Berry), petty thief and single mom Elizabeth Waters (Vivica A. Fox), and schoolteacher Emira Eagle (Lela Rochon) -- all making a legal claim to be Mrs. Frankie Lymon, with rights to his musical royalties. A hearing commences in which each claimant tells the story of Frankie (Larenz Tate) as she knew him, from teen star to has-been, from heroin addict to soldier. The flashbacks cover 13 years of Frankie's life, with widely varying perspectives on the man each of the three women married at some point, but none of them divorced. Somewhere buried in that narrative is an interesting -- if somewhat trite -- entertainment industry life story, the story of a street kid from an abusive home who becomes dependent on the love he receives from audiences and women. Larenz Tate does a fine job of capturing Frankie's electrifying stage presence, as well as his sheer joy of performing for a crowd. In fact, the high-energy performance scenes are generally the film's best, with Frankie's unbridled on-stage enthusiasm contrasting sharply with the conservative choreography of his artistic contemporaries. Tate also has the thankless job of creating a character out of piecemeal recollections, yet the character still comes together as someone you want to know more about. If only wanting made it so. Only occasionally does WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE hone in on the question of who Frankie Lymon really was. Too often Andrews and Nava take off on dead-end tangents -- a vamping, self-indulgent cameo by Little Richard as himself; the hit-and-run accusation that Frankie's manager/producer Morris Levy (Paul Mazursky) cheated him out of millions; broadly comic female bonding sessions which turn Zola, Elizabeth and Emira into the First, Second and Third Wives' Club. When they finally do get around to Frankie himself, they offer psychologically convenient devices like a shattered mirror in which Frankie sees his fragmented visage. The individual snapshots of his life, including such potentially provoactive subjects as his naive disregard for 1950s social conventions, never seem designed to develop into a complete portrait. Ultimately no one, not even the three women with whom he shared a life, seems interested in understanding Frankie. That's what's most disappointing about WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE: it's not really a biography of Frankie Lymon. The film-makers are usually more interested in getting inside the the heads of the three women -- providing tart dialogue for the three talented lead actresses while making them sympathetic, mis-used you-go-girls -- than getting inside Frankie's head. Sure, they violate point of view when it serves their purpse to show things none of the narrators could have seen, but mostly they point out how Frankie's enigmatic behavior hurt others, not how he hurt himself. It's a cop-out to start telling a character's story, then shrug your shoulders and claim not to have any idea who that character is. Tina Andrews spent fifteen years waiting to tell the story of a potentially fascinating rock 'n' roll tragedy, but all she could come up with was a great big "I dunno." On the Renshaw scale of 0 to 10 Frankies, my dear: 5. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit Scott Renshaw's MoviePage http://www.inconnect.com/~renshaw/ *** Subscribe to receive new reviews directly by email! See the MoviePage for details, or reply to this message with subject line "Subscribe". - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:16:43 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: [MV] 54 I saw a commercial for 54 i think it looks good, the main character guy (relationship with Neve's character...) is really cute. Has he been in anything else? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:52:06 +0100 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: Re: [MV] Wild Things This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BDD1A0.59BD6980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I still say I liked "Wild things". I did not mean you had to see the = end credits, the film still makes perfect sense without them.......they = just clear up some of finer points. And talking of films with twists, I = defy anybody who claims they could work out the ending to Mamet's "House = of games". Returning to the subject of end credits that = annoy.........why on earth does the film "A life less ordinary" have = that dreadful stop motion short during it's end? It is unbearable and = lowers my opinion of a reasonably entertaining film. - ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BDD1A0.59BD6980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 


 
I still say I liked "Wild = things".  I did=20 not mean you had to see the end credits, the film still makes perfect = sense=20 without them.......they just clear up some of finer points. And talking = of films=20 with twists, I defy anybody who claims they could work out the ending to = Mamet's=20 "House of games". Returning to the subject of end credits = that =20 annoy.........why on earth does the film "A life less = ordinary" have=20 that dreadful stop motion short during it's end?  It is unbearable = and=20 lowers my opinion of a reasonably entertaining=20 film.







- ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BDD1A0.59BD6980-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:34:59 +0200 From: manuel morrens Subject: Re: [MV] Wild Things - --------------567FB0D9BA8115B990A57A41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerald Taylor wrote: > > > M. Morens wrote- > I didn't like this movie at all... Interesting.......I > find most Hollywood films totally predictable but most of > the twists in this I did not predict. Out of > curiosity......can you tell me any films you did not predict > the twist in? Don't tell me the twists! just titles in case > I have not seen some of them.~ > Gerry T > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ok... I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant movie) neither did I in Diabolique The twists at the end in L.A. Confidential I couldn't predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few years) ...Need other examples??? By the way it's M. MorRens :)) see ya - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuel Morrens mmorrens@minf.vub.ac.be Department of Medicine http://minf.vub.ac.be/~mmorrens/eighties Brussels Free University (lyrics of the eighties) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------567FB0D9BA8115B990A57A41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerald Taylor wrote:
 
M. Morens wrote-
  I didn't like this movie at all... Interesting.......I find most Hollywood films totally predictable but most of the twists in this I did not predict.  Out of curiosity......can you tell me any films you did not predict the twist in?  Don't tell me the twists! just titles in case I have not seen some of them.~
Gerry T

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 Ok...
I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant movie) neither did I in Diabolique
The twists at the end in L.A. Confidential I couldn't predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few years) ...Need other examples???

By the way it's M. MorRens :))

see ya

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  - --------------567FB0D9BA8115B990A57A41-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: From: "R.A.B" Subject: Re: [MV] Wild Things This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BDD19A.5952A880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How about "The Usual Suspects" ?? Rodney "As far as the eyes can't see" (Horizon Publishing) www.horizonp.com Ok...=20 I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant movie) = neither did I in Diabolique=20 The twists at the end in L.A. Confidential I couldn't = predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few years) ...Need = other examples???=20 By the way it's M. MorRens :))=20 see ya=20 =20 = - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuel Morrens mmorrens@minf.vub.ac.be =20 Department of Medicine = http://minf.vub.ac.be/~mmorrens/eighties Brussels Free University (lyrics of the eighties) = - ---------------------------------------------------------------------=20 =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BDD19A.5952A880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 
How about = "The Usual=20 Suspects" ??
 
Rodney
"As far as the eyes can't see" = (Horizon=20 Publishing)
www.horizonp.com
 Ok...=20
I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant = movie)=20 neither did I in Diabolique
The twists at the end in L.A. = Confidential I=20 couldn't predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few = years)=20 ...Need other examples???=20

By the way it's M. MorRens :))=20

see ya=20 =

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BDD19A.5952A880-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:52:30 +0200 From: manuel morrens Subject: Re: [MV] Wild Things - --------------C319883CD4CDCA94EECF786B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R.A.B wrote: > How about "The Usual Suspects" ?? Rodney"As far as the eyes can't > see" (Horizon Publishing) > > Ok... > I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant > movie) neither did I in Diabolique > The twists at the end in L.A. Confidential I couldn't > predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few years) > ...Need other examples??? > > By the way it's M. MorRens :)) > > see ya > > Yeah, also good example, didn't see that one coming at all...excellent movie.. other example ..Liar...I liked it very much...little bit confusing but cool picture.... thatha - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Manuel Morrens mmorrens@minf.vub.ac.be Department of Medicine http://minf.vub.ac.be/~mmorrens/eighties Brussels Free University (lyrics of the eighties) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------C319883CD4CDCA94EECF786B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R.A.B wrote:
  How about "The Usual Suspects" ?? Rodney"As far as the eyes can't see" (Horizon Publishing)
 Ok...
I didn't expect the twists in "the game" (...brilliant movie) neither did I in Diabolique
The twists at the end in L.A. Confidential I couldn't predict....(One of the best movies I saw the last few years) ...Need other examples???

By the way it's M. MorRens :))

see ya
 

Yeah, also good example, didn't see that one coming at all...excellent movie..
other example ..Liar...I liked it very much...little bit confusing but cool picture....

thatha

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  - --------------C319883CD4CDCA94EECF786B-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:39:49 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Tonys thank you for clearing that up for me!! (????) > -----Original Message----- > From: Honwa Chau [SMTP:nihonitchy@ibm.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 7:31 AM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] Tonys > > Short Tony - Tony Leung Chiu-wai is famous for: "Hard-Boiled," > "Chungking Express" and "Happy Together." He also sings occassionally. > > Tall Tony - Tony Leung Kai-fei is famous for "The Lover" (also starring > Jane March and directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud), "A Better Tomorrow III" > and scores of other movies. He also occassionally sings. > > To add to the confusion, the two actors sometimes appear in the same > film. Examples include "Ashes of Time," "He Ain't Heavy, He's My > Father," "The Eagle Shooting Heroes," and "Always be the Winners." > > I think Tony Leung Kai-fei has been in more films (but don't quote me on > that) and has a zany persona (with a falsetto voice to match) in > comedies. I like Tony Leung Chiu-wai better in dramas; he's got such a > killer stare. > > As far as I know, Tony Leung Chiu-wai is not gay. His long-time > girlfriend is actress Carina Lau, who plays his wife in "Ashes of Time," > although the two don't have a scene together. (In "He Ain't Heavy, He's > My Father," Tony Leung Kai-fei plays the father, Carina Lau plays the > mother and Tony Leung Chiu-wai plays the son.) > > I hope I have added to the confusion. > > > > > itchy > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #75 *************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]