From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #166 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 166 Re: [MV] Re LEO Re: [MV] Re LEO Re: [MV] Re LEO Re: [MV] Re: Phantom and The beach and Mel! Movie News - 02/23/99 [MV] RE Leo [MV] new member [MV] sorry RE: [MV] new member RE: [MV] sorry [MV] Movie News - 02/26/99 [MV] Check out FlickPicks, The Moviegoers' Website! [MV] REVIEW: 8MM [MV] Sci-Fi Movie News - 02/26/99 [MV] Batman 5 [MV] France funnier than U.S ? Re: [MV] Check out Hollywood Bitchslap, The Other Moviegoers' Website! Re: [MV] France funnier than U.S ? [MV] Re : France funnier than U.S ? [MV] MovieJuice! - The Star Wars Trailer Parody! [MV] Avengers vs Armageddon [MV] Message In a Bottle [MV] MovieJuice! - 8MM - The Silliness of the Lambs [MV] The Blair Witch Project Film Clips Re: [MV] MovieJuice! - 8MM - The Silliness of the Lambs Re: [MV] Avengers vs Armageddon [MV] REVIEW: ANALYZE THIS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:17:04 -0600 From: Diane Christy Subject: Re: [MV] Re LEO On 2/25/99, 6:44 PM -0600, Gregory A. Swarthout said so nicely: >Leo's acting was in the only weak point in an otherwise excellent film. >Gabriel Byrne, John Malkovich, Jeremy Irons (!), and Gerard Depardieu were >great, as were the supporting cast. Swashbuckling fun at its best, with >a score that was scandalously overlooked by the Academy. I enjoyed this movie "The Man With the Iron Mask". The entire cast was a treat!! I enjoyed DiCaprio in it as well. I thought he did a wonderful job playing 2 very different characters. I was impressed. I don't think it's his best work. I happen to think his performance in "What Eating Gilbert Grape" was one of the best I've ever seen anywhere. I think he's a very talented man. I just think that he's too young right now. Maybe when he gets off this ego stuff, he'll be more interested in developing his craft and maturing as an actor. I think he's worth waiting for. ~~~~~ Diane Christy (Samantha and Joshua's Mom) Jefferson, LA http://www.geocities.com/~dchristy10/ mailto:dchristy10@earthlink.net mailto:DChristy1@aol.com ICQ #12904700 ~~~~~ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:39:12 -0600 (CST) From: Christi Eilleen Falk Subject: Re: [MV] Re LEO Yes, the movies I've seen of Leo's are Critters and Man in the Iron Mask. This makes me believe the kid is just spoiled. But for the sake of everyone's sanity, I will go out and rent Gilbert Grape, just to give the guy one more chance. As for Titanic, Leo wasn't the only reason I didn't see it. I saw a truly offensive movie on the Lez channel with That Woman in it(to speak her name is to admit knowledge of her existance), and I find her repulsive as well. Plus the fact that Titanic movies are getting to be like Amy Fisher movies. Sooner or later there will be one starring Drew Barrymore. Christi [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:45:59 -0600 (CST) From: Christi Eilleen Falk Subject: Re: [MV] Re LEO Greg, Yes, Leo's acting was weak, but maybe that's because they seemed to throw the script out the window half way thru the movie! Watch it again and look for it. It was flowing moderately smoothly until the botched kidnap attempt in the gondola. Then the whole movie went to hell. As a student of great literature, I am truly offended when a movie does that. If you want to have a good comparison to back up the definition, I suggest The Negotiator, or The Usual Suspects. Them's good watchin! Christi [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:25:43 -0000 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Phantom and The beach and Mel! Movie News - 02/23/99 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE61B5.6BCB1A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >And when, pray tell, do you think casting is done for a movie?? Ever = hear >of post-production?? Could it possibly be, do you think, that Boyle = went >with someone else due to MacGregor's schedule?? Or, considering your >opinion of an overrated movie, perchance there was fear of = overexposure?? >If you recall, Leo himself had a spot of trouble finding quality work = last >year at this time. Something about his ship coming in. > >Regards, > >--Mel > > Mel....how can he be free to appear in a play since before December but = also still be available for post production. I heard he was originally = considered for "The beach" but then leonardo came along......there is a = similar case with "American psycho". The actor originally slated for = that (Christian bale) was shoved aside when leonardo showed an interest = in the part.......it is only recently that he has got the role back = after Leonardo binned the idea. I also find it bizarre that you will not watch a film just because a = certain actor or actress is in it. It is the overall film that should = be judged and there is also the case that very possibly the = actor/actress might turn in a performance that could change your opinion = of them. =20 One last thing.......I thought the man in the iron mask was terrible and = I have never seen such talented actors wasted. The film was = laughable....especially the escape scene. Gerry T. - ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE61B5.6BCB1A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 


>And when, pray tell, do you think casting is done for a = movie??  Ever hear
>of post-production??  Could it = possibly be,=20 do you think, that Boyle went
>with someone else due to = MacGregor's=20 schedule??  Or, considering your
>opinion of an overrated = movie,=20 perchance there was fear of overexposure??
>If you recall, Leo = himself had=20 a spot of trouble finding quality work last
>year at this = time. =20 Something about his ship coming=20 in.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Mel
>
>
Mel....how can he be free to appear in a play = since before=20 December but also still be available for post production.  I heard = he was=20 originally considered for "The beach" but then leonardo came=20 along......there is a similar case with "American = psycho".  The=20 actor originally slated for that (Christian bale) was shoved aside when = leonardo=20 showed an interest in the part.......it is only recently that he has got = the=20 role back after Leonardo binned the idea.
I also find it bizarre that = you will not=20 watch a film just because a certain actor or actress is in it.  It = is the=20 overall film that should be judged and there is also the case that very = possibly=20 the actor/actress might turn in a performance that could change your = opinion of=20 them. 
One last thing.......I = thought the man=20 in the iron mask was terrible and I have never seen such talented actors = wasted.  The film was laughable....especially the escape=20 scene.
Gerry=20 T.
- ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE61B5.6BCB1A00-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:34:02 +0100 From: "kraus patrick" Subject: [MV] RE Leo Christi, As far as I'm concerned, I think that Leo is a good actor. Besides, I recommend you to watch Gilbert Grape first. The reasons are simple ; As you said, you are a Literature student, and you might, by criticizing the very weak screenplay of "The man in the iron Mask", take no notice of Leo's performance. I've read Alexandre DUMAS senior's book about this strange enigma of the french history. Randall Wallace did not take any notice of Dumas's style which it should have inspired him. His adaptation is more like a "Shakespearian" tragedy;You don't feel that the scene of the film is France. Anyway, you have to watch it to make your own judgement. Read the book as well, you won't be disappointed. Concerning Gilbert Grape, Leo is so good that he totally erase Depp's role. To finish, the aim of the two movies are very different, and the budgets are too. But it is not what we are interested in, aren't we ? Inform me about your point of view after seeing those two films. Magic Patrick (France) Mon e-mail gratuit, c'est Youpy, Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:02:07 -0000 From: "Roman G" Subject: [MV] new member hi folks, I am a new member here. my main interested are action and sci-fi movies. I dont think I have received the welcome message from the list owner. I would also like to switch to the digest version of the list. thanks. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:09:35 -0000 From: "Roman G" Subject: [MV] sorry - -- I goofed. I did in fact receive the welcome message...sorry. Anyway, I have some news about T3, anyone interested? Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:11:44 -0700 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] new member Welcome to the list. You should know that we only review and discuss XXX movies on this list, although some of them have pretty good Sci-fi and action plots, so that shouldn't be a problem for you. Just kidding. Sorry folks, I couldn't resist on a Friday afternoon. James K. Rudy - -----Original Message----- From: Roman G [mailto:romang@mailcity.com] Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:02 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: [MV] new member hi folks, I am a new member here. my main interested are action and sci-fi movies. I dont think I have received the welcome message from the list owner. I would also like to switch to the digest version of the list. thanks. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:08:39 -0800 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] sorry T3?! Yes! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roman G [SMTP:romang@mailcity.com] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 12:10 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] sorry > > > -- > I goofed. I did in fact receive the welcome > message...sorry. > > Anyway, I have some news about T3, anyone interested? > > > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com > Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:32:41 -0700 (MST) From: The Reporter Subject: [MV] Movie News - 02/26/99 PARIS (AP) - David Cronenberg, whose movie "Crash" prompted both boos and raves at the Cannes film festival three years ago, will head this year's jury, the festival announced Thursday. "It's going to be intoxicating and thrilling, and I can't wait," the Canadian director said. Cronenberg, who also directed "The Fly" and "Dead Ringers," won the 1996 Grand Jury prize at Cannes for "Crash," which stunned many with its scenes of lovers getting their kicks from car crashes. Despite the award, there were boos and walkouts, too. Last year's jury president was American director Martin Scorsese. -=> * <=- LOS ANGELES (AP) - Sony Pictures Entertainment is making a major push into the family market, creating a new division to produce home videos, TV shows, animated films and merchandising. The division's president will be Sander Schwartz, who currently heads Sony's Columbia TriStar children's TV division. The new unit could release its first animated feature next year, officials said Thursday. No films have been given the green light but Sander said he will look for "cost-effective and lower-risk" properties that can be spun off for the children's home video, TV and consumer products markets. Live-action family films will be developed and produced by Sony's Columbia Pictures. -=> * <=- BURBANK, Calif. (AP) - An Asian-American group condemned Matthew McConaughey for using a racial slur on Rosie O'Donnell's show. McConaughey, who is filming the World War II movie "U-571" in Italy, made the comment Tuesday when O'Donnell referred to his short hair. "I take it you're doing a movie. That's the new hairdo?" she asked. "Yeah," McConaughey answered. "I'm over in Rome fighting Germans and Japs from World War II." "The term 'Jap' has historically been used to dehumanize an entire race of people - not just Japanese nationals. During World War II, the slur was used against Japanese-Americans," said Masaru Kent Kawai, president of the watchdog group Media Action Network for Asian Americans. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:27:38 -0700 (MST) From: "David F. Nolan" Subject: [MV] Check out FlickPicks, The Moviegoers' Website! Attention, all movie lovers: You can rate and review current releases any time at FlickPicks, the Moviegoers Website (http://www.flickpicks,com). Also, you can read comments by 2,000 other participants and see how they rate various movies, on a 5-star scale. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:11:47 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Renshaw Subject: [MV] REVIEW: 8MM 8MM (Columbia) Starring: Nicolas Cage, Joaquin Phoenix, James Gandolfini, Peter Stormare, Anthony Heald, Catherine Keener. Screenplay: Andrew Kevin Walker. Producers: Judy Hofflund, Gavin Polone and Joel Schumacher. Director: Joel Schumacher. MPAA Rating: R (profanity, sexual situations, violence, nudity) Running Time: 121 minutes. Reviewed by Scott Renshaw. I don't think I want to know what Andrew Kevin Walker dreams about. As to Joel Schumacher's dreams, I think I can venture a pretty good guess. Walker is the scribe responsible for the monumentally disturbing SEVEN, a writer who seems far too fascinated with the horrifying outer limits of human depravity; Schumacher is a pop filmmaker who has served up glossy pseudo-character studies on vigilantism (FALLING DOWN, A TIME TO KILL) and fetishized beefcake (the two most recent BATMAN extravaganzas). It would seem that the creative sensibilities of these two men couldn't be farther apart, which is one of the reasons 8MM feels like an edgy, intriguing missed opportunity. Every time Walker tries to drive the narrative into the realm of the unnerving, Schumacher drags it back into the merely kinky. The premise for 8MM involves that most enduring of pornographic urban legends, the snuff film. Private investigator Tom Welles (Nicolas Cage) is hired by the widow of a recently deceased billionaire industrialist regarding one unpleasant item from his wall safe. It's a single reel of 8mm film, a film in which a teenage girl appears to be knifed to death by a man in a black leather hood. Charged by his employer to find out whether or not the film is authentic, Welles begins to delve into the Hollywood pornography underworld with a book store clerk named Max (Joaquin Phoenix) as his guide. Soon he discovers that there is always someone willing to cater to almost every sexual taste, and that there are people in the world capable of things he never imagined. Cage is a great choice for a character like Tom Welles -- the capacity for lunatic action always seems to hide just behind his placid features -- but the character himself is something of a puzzle. Much is made in the opening minutes of Tom's happy marriage to his wife (Catherine Keener) and his love for his infant daughter, which makes it a bit too obvious that his quest for the snuff film's possible victim is really all about his own little girl. At times, however, it seems that Walker and Schumacher are playing with the idea that Welles is recognizing some of his own darker desires through his experience. Is 8MM a story of a man discovering the evil in society, or the evil in himself? If that question had been answered more effectively, 8MM might have struck a more resonant chord. As it stands, it's still a pretty gripping little thriller at times. The first hour pokes along at something of a crawl, which somehow works more often than it doesn't, perhaps because it's indicative of Welles' tenacity. The supporting performances are solid, with Joaquin Phoenix making a savvy sidekick for Welles, and Peter Stormare seething sleaze as a porn film director. The deliberate pacing eventually gives way to some tense showdowns as the film builds to its climax, including a search for a killer in which the driving sound of thrash metal music suddenly becomes the eerie metronome of the runout groove. 8MM is rarely a bore, and often finds the slick energy of the most effective dark action films. It's too bad that slickness works against 8MM nearly as often as it works for it. The bleak triumph of SEVEN came not primarily through Walker's fairly straightforward serial killer script, but through director David Fincher's brilliantly subliminal direction; the violence lurked at the edges of the frame, where our minds put gruesome pieces together. Joel Schumacher is a more grandiose sort of filmmaker, one who has no problem thrusting the details of an S&M film into the dead center of the screen. His version of the smoky basements where the hardcore deviants lurk is too literal, and indeed there's something about Tom Welles' entire journey that is too literal. The director isn't exactly trying to titillate the audience, but he's not helping the writer's study of how one man responds to the destruction of innocence. It may be enough that 8MM is just a decently constructed thriller. It's just not a gut-rattler, more the sort of thing you get when the director of BATMAN & ROBIN tries to do apocalyptic menace. On the Renshaw scale of 0 to 10 film strips: 6. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit Scott Renshaw's Screening Room http://www.inconnect.com/~renshaw/ *** Subscribe to receive new reviews directly by email! See the Screening Room for details, or reply to this message with subject "Subscribe". - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:46:47 -0700 (MST) From: The Reporter Subject: [MV] Sci-Fi Movie News - 02/26/99 Event Horizon star Sam Neill has agreed to star opposite Robin Williams in Disney's upcoming SF picture Bicentennial Man, according to Variety. The film is based on the Isaac Asimov short story of the same name and tells the tale of an android servant who wants to become human. Neill, who recently headlined the NBC miniseries Merlin, will play the father of the family that hires Williams to work for them. The film is being directed by Chris Columbus, who previously worked with Williams on the box-office hit Mrs. Doubtfire. -=> * <=- After finishing principal photography on the United Artists SF film Supernova, director Walter Hill has decided to leave the project, according to Variety's Michael Fleming. The unusual situation of a director leaving a picture after most of the movie has already been filmed reportedly came about when Hill wanted to shoot additional footage for the flick. According to Fleming, United executives wanted to test the movie before okaying an further filming, despite strong objections from Hill. When no compromise could be reached, both sides agreed to go their separate ways. Supernova, which stars James Spader, Angela Bassett, Lou Diamond Phillips and Robert Forster, is supposedly still on track for a fall release. -=> * <=- Director David Cronenberg told Variety that his upcoming SF flick eXistenZ was inspired in part by Salman Rushdie and his controversial book The Satanic Verses. Cronenberg--who has created his own controversies with films like Crash and Dead Ringers--said a "clash of realties" was central to both his picture and Rushdie's experiences. In eXistenZ, a computer game designer played by Jennifer Jason Leigh is being hunted down by "realists" who have placed a $5 million bounty on her head for subverting reality. In real life, Iran's Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a religious decree for Rushdie's death following the publication of The Satanic Verses. -=> * <=- French director Jean-Jacques Beineix plans to helm his first English-language film, a vampire flick called Deal of the Millennium, according Variety. French star Jean Reno will headline the $40 million picture, while negotiations are underway to sign Jason Flemyng as a costar. The film is reportedly about two young vampires who are looking for a vampire professor to show them the ropes of drinking blood. The film is being backed by UCG in France, while Beineix is still seeking a U.S. distributor. -=> * <=- Christina Applegate and Tara Reid are in talks to star in an English-language remake of the 1993 hit French time-travel comedy Les Visiteurs (The Visitors), according to The Hollywood Reporter. The new picture will feature original Les Visiteurs stars Jean Reno (The Professional, Godzilla) and Christian Clavier as the male leads, a nobleman and a squire who are accidentally sent forward in time to the modern day. Applegate will likely play two roles, Reno's 11th century love interest Lady Rosalind as well as his contemporary girlfriend. Reid will portray the neighbor of Applegate's modern day character, who finds herself attracted to Clavier. Les Visiteurs director Jean-Marie Poire will return to helm the remake, which was co-written by John Hughes and Clavier. The original film, which earned $98 million as well as six Cesar nominations, was scripted by Clavier and Poire, who also penned a sequel titled Les Couloirs du Temps: Les Visiteurs 2 (The Corridors of Time: The Visitors 2). -=> * <=- Director Peter Jackson has reportedly delayed the start of production on his live-action film version of Lord of the Rings until August. -=> * <=- Home Fries director Dean Parisot is reportedly in talks with DreamWorks to helm the SF comedy Galaxy Quest, which will likely star Tim Allen. -=> * <=- The fifth Batman feature film will reportedly star a young unknown actor as a 20-year-old version of the Dark Knight, along the lines of Frank Miller's comic book series Batman: Year One. -=> * <=- The film version of the 1960s TV sitcom My Favorite Martian earned $11.1 million during its first weekend in theaters, according to published reports. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:47:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: [MV] Batman 5 For those of you who don't read all the way through the Sci-Fi Movie News: The fifth Batman feature film will reportedly star a young unknown actor as a 20-year-old version of the Dark Knight, along the lines of Frank Miller's comic book series Batman: Year One. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:09:03 +0100 From: "kraus patrick" Subject: [MV] France funnier than U.S ? During this last decade, France made two of its best comedies ever : "Les Visiteurs", and "Le diner de cons". That is why Hollywood wants to remake those. But in France we are used to that ( Nina became Nikita for example). I am not condemning american cinema, on the contrary, I completely understand this. They are doing so many movies every year, that they need new ideas. Anyway, it is undeniable that these two movies are hilarious. Yesterday I watched "Le diner de cons" again, and I am still laughing just thinking about it.Do you want to know more about the originals previews ? Magic Patrick (France) Mon e-mail gratuit, c'est Youpy, Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:28:33 -0800 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] Check out Hollywood Bitchslap, The Other Moviegoers' Website! "David F. Nolan" wrote: > Attention, all movie lovers: You can rate and review current releases > any time at FlickPicks, the Moviegoers Website > Also, you can read comments by 2,000 other > participants and see how they rate various movies, on a 5-star scale. Or you can check out Hollywood Bitchslap and do the exact same thing, but with a database of over 1600 reviews, almost 10,000 user ratings and 1650 archived, current and coming attractions. I wouldn't normally plug so blatantly, but since it's open season... - ------ {{{OZ}}} ------------------------------------------ "Damn the man, Joe!" -= HOLLYWOOD BITCHSLAP =- - ----------- http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com ------------ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:05:14 -0000 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: Re: [MV] France funnier than U.S ? YES.......I have seen Les visiteurs but don't think I've heard of this other one.......what does the title translate to in english? Gerry T. - -----Original Message----- From: kraus patrick To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: 27 February 1999 10:13 Subject: [MV] France funnier than U.S ? >During this last decade, France made two of its best comedies ever : "Les >Visiteurs", and "Le diner de cons". That is why Hollywood wants to remake >those. But in France we are used to that ( Nina became Nikita for example). >I am not condemning american cinema, on the contrary, I completely >understand this. They are doing so many movies every year, that they need >new ideas. >Anyway, it is undeniable that these two movies are hilarious. >Yesterday I watched "Le diner de cons" again, and I am still laughing just >thinking about it.Do you want to know more about the originals previews ? > > >Magic Patrick (France) > > > >Mon e-mail gratuit, c'est Youpy, >Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:11:59 +0100 From: "kraus patrick" Subject: [MV] Re : France funnier than U.S ? The translation of the other movies is "the diner". Magic Patrick (France) Mon e-mail gratuit, c'est Youpy, Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: maillist@moviejuice.com Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - The Star Wars Trailer Parody! A Very Special Announcement: IT'S FINALLY HERE! Visit http://www.moviejuice.com and be among the first to experience the MovieJuice! Star Wars Trailer Parody. You'll need the RealVideo player, available from a link on the MovieJuice.com site. You've got to stream it to believe it. Dedicated to the amazing talents of George Lucas and his wizards of wonder at Lucasfilm. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:58:23 -0000 From: "Gerald Taylor" Subject: [MV] Avengers vs Armageddon This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6354.B24F59A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Avengers is not a good movie......but am I the only person who = thinks it is better than Armageddon? Who knows....The Avengers may have = been better if they had'nt removed that extra thirty minutes. Gerry T. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6354.B24F59A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Avengers is not a good=20 movie......but am I the only person who thinks it is better than=20 Armageddon?  Who knows....The Avengers may have been better if they = had'nt=20 removed that extra thirty minutes.
Gerry=20 T.
- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6354.B24F59A0-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:22:14 PST From: "Danielle DiDonato" Subject: [MV] Message In a Bottle Has anyone seen Message In a Bottle yet? I just saw it and thought it was a very good movie and it got bad reviews because of Kevin Costner, I thought it was good and that he did a good job too. Any thoughts? Danielle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:29:36 -0500 (EST) From: maillist@moviejuice.com Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - 8MM - The Silliness of the Lambs SEE THE STAR WARS TRAILER PARODY! It's our tribute to the folks at Lucasfilm and the phenomenon of Star Wars. See it NOW at http://www.moviejuice.com. And spread the word! ******************** 8MM - THE SILLINESS OF THE LAMBS by Mark Ramsey http://www.moviejuice.com February 28, 1999 Should a movie be entertaining? "If you want entertainment, you get a couple of hookers and an eightball." So said Sean Penn this weekend on that TV paragon of super serioso acting craft "Inside the Actor's Studio." Then Sean (a.k.a. "Martyr Brando") snapped his fingers as the entire universe ceased revolving around him. The planets just hung in the air, much like the stars surrounding Jenna Elfman's head and the satellites encircling Denise Richards' breasts. A wonder to behold! Director and erstwhile Batman arch-villain Joel Schumacher plays Good Movie Target Practice with all the marksmanship of an Iraqi anti-aircraft battery. If you're gonna bomb, Joel, at least use a smart bomb. Imagine the doctor who creates a pretty vaccine that doesn't cure illness. Joel is Hollywood's number one turd-polisher, and 8MM is buffed to an odorous, sparkling shine. It's spam glam of the highest order. As you may recall, Schumacher was banished from Gotham City after his last go-round with the caped one, only to turn up on AM radio where, under the guise of "Director Joel," he dispensed self-help to luckless losers sorely in need of more attractive lives utterly without substance. Familiar terrain, Director Joel! 8MM is the brainchild of the guy who wrote Seven. Where did this flick come from? Let me reconstruct the birth of 8MM: Columbia Executives: You wrote Seven, right? Seven Writer: Yeah Columbia Executives: We admire any movie where "Gwyneth Paltrow" and "head" are used in the same sentence, if you know what we mean. We'd like you to write something exactly like it, but completely different. Seven Writer: Will you pay me shitloads of money so that I can justify a for-hire and passionless assignment designed strictly to separate easily duped moviegoers from their hard-earned money? Columbia Executives: Are you kidding? Of course! We ain't Miracolumbiamax, pal! Seven Writer: But Sony owns you guys. Columbia Executives: Not "Sony." They make TV's! It's "Soon Yi," Woody Allen's babe. That's a big misconception. Check the slogan in her annual report: "Where We Show You a Tit and We Bring On the Shit!" At least I learned one thing from 8MM. The line "Drop the Crossbow" is funny regardless of context. Let's face it, if Paul Newman told Kevin Costner to "Drop the Crossbow" in Message in a Bottle, who wouldn't laugh? Someone prescribe some vitamins for Nick Cage. He seems a bit run down. Thanks to his somnambulist monotone, I was able to tune a guitar to his voice. Is there a harp playing, or have I gone to Heaven? Scanning the audience, I noticed "Lullaby" guy Shawn Mullins nodding off. Did human tranquilizer Nick just take a gig on NYPD Blue as Lt. Sleep-owicz? Should I stick a needle in my eye or use it to prop open the lid? Evidently, "boredom" is the eighth deadly sin. Cast as Nick's wife is one of Cinderella's stepsisters. Yikes, Nick! Patricia Arquette she ain't. Not unless you squint, turn your head by 90 degrees, pound a brew, and view this flick backwards through tissue paper. Then she's a dead ringer. If Patricia's whole bean, then this babe's ground for drip, cone filter. Call it Starbucks Distresso Blend. Robusta, Arabica, or Disgusta? Yowee. Drop the crossbow, lady. Creepily inserted at every twist and turn is Nick's baby. The message: This guy may be diving into depravity, but he's also a daddy, dammit. Baby's big swollen head keeps bobbing into the scene like a buoy on Baywatch. Did Mrs. Nick just capture a tiny extraterrestrial or something? "Oh, she's touching the phone," says Mrs. Nick. How sweet. Too bad she can't wrap those tiny fingers around your french roasted neck, Mrs. Nick, and squeeze the caffeine out of you. I believe that baby just dropped the crossbow! Never have I seen a flick where the soundtrack seems so out of place. It's sitar-rific! Is Nick chasing S&M Snuff Porno or meditating with Ghandi? Are those vocals or did somebody sample farm animal squeals? What does porno have to do with Tom Tom drums, anyway? Ta-Tas and Pom-Poms I get, but Tom Toms? Nick's out to trace a Snuff film - to discover whether it's real or not. Unfortunately, the possibly snuffed chick writes poetry that begins "Star light, Star bright...." meaning a good snuffing was inevitable and - from a sociological perspective - all for the best. Yes, Nick is pee-pee deep in the seedy world of Underground Porno. He's surrounded by throngs of young runaways. Or maybe it's a WB Network casting call; who can tell? Crossbows were tumbling to the floor all over the place. When Nick gets his chance to wreak revenge on the pornographic perpetrators, he asks the girl's mom: "Give me your permission to hurt them." Judging by the snickers in the audience, you'd think Jim Carrey had just cracked a butt. Maybe director Schumacher should go back to making schues. Among the climaxes (no pun intended) in this movie was Nick's face/off with an S&M Dungeonmaster named "Machine," or as Joel art-directed the word: "ma-sheen." Sheen's specialty is pain, torture, and making really long speeches before he kills someone, thus allowing them plenty of time to escape and turn the tables on him. When will villains learn, ma-sheen? Sorry, Director Joel, you dropped the crossbow on this one. This ma-sheen could use an upgrade. Copyright 1999 Mark Ramsey. All rights reserved. NO PORTION MAY BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR. ******************** DON’T FORGET TO VISIT MOVIEJUICE.COM! 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[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:55:04 -0500 From: "Chris Culligan" Subject: [MV] The Blair Witch Project Film Clips This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE633B.16977EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone on this list mentioned, about a week ago, that they had = downloaded some film clips from The Blair Witch Project. Does that = person, or anyone else on this list, have a URL for downloading such = clips??? CHRIS - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE633B.16977EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE633B.16977EC0-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:02:25 +0800 (CST) From: en4d Subject: Re: [MV] MovieJuice! - 8MM - The Silliness of the Lambs Hi! I have to drop out this area.Sorry On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 maillist@moviejuice.com wrote: > SEE THE STAR WARS TRAILER PARODY! >=20 > It's our tribute to the folks at Lucasfilm and the phenomenon of Star War= s. See it NOW at http://www.moviejuice.com. And spread the word! > ******************** >=20 >=20 > 8MM - THE SILLINESS OF THE LAMBS >=20 > by Mark Ramsey >=20 > http://www.moviejuice.com >=20 > February 28, 1999 >=20 > Should a movie be entertaining? "If you want entertainment, you get a co= uple of hookers and an eightball." So said Sean Penn this weekend on that = TV paragon of super serioso acting craft "Inside the Actor's Studio." Then= Sean (a.k.a. "Martyr Brando") snapped his fingers as the entire universe c= eased revolving around him. The planets just hung in the air, much like th= e stars surrounding Jenna Elfman's head and the satellites encircling Denis= e Richards' breasts. A wonder to behold! >=20 > Director and erstwhile Batman arch-villain Joel Schumacher plays Good Mov= ie Target Practice with all the marksmanship of an Iraqi anti-aircraft batt= ery. If you're gonna bomb, Joel, at least use a smart bomb. Imagine the = doctor who creates a pretty vaccine that doesn't cure illness. Joel is Ho= llywood's number one turd-polisher, and 8MM is buffed to an odorous, sparkl= ing shine. It's spam glam of the highest order. >=20 > As you may recall, Schumacher was banished from Gotham City after his las= t go-round with the caped one, only to turn up on AM radio where, under the= guise of "Director Joel," he dispensed self-help to luckless losers sorely= in need of more attractive lives utterly without substance. Familiar terr= ain, Director Joel! >=20 > 8MM is the brainchild of the guy who wrote Seven. Where did this flick = come from? Let me reconstruct the birth of 8MM: >=20 > Columbia Executives: You wrote Seven, right? >=20 > Seven Writer: Yeah >=20 > Columbia Executives: We admire any movie where "Gwyneth Paltrow" and "he= ad" are used in the same sentence, if you know what we mean. We'd like you= to write something exactly like it, but completely different. >=20 > Seven Writer: Will you pay me shitloads of money so that I can justify a= for-hire and passionless assignment designed strictly to separate easily d= uped moviegoers from their hard-earned money? >=20 > Columbia Executives: Are you kidding? Of course! We ain't Miracolumbia= max, pal! >=20 > Seven Writer: But Sony owns you guys. =20 >=20 > Columbia Executives: Not "Sony." They make TV's! It's "Soon Yi," Woody= Allen's babe. That's a big misconception. Check the slogan in her annual= report: "Where We Show You a Tit and We Bring On the Shit!" >=20 > At least I learned one thing from 8MM. The line "Drop the Crossbow" is f= unny regardless of context. Let's face it, if Paul Newman told Kevin Costn= er to "Drop the Crossbow" in Message in a Bottle, who wouldn't laugh? >=20 > Someone prescribe some vitamins for Nick Cage. He seems a bit run down. = Thanks to his somnambulist monotone, I was able to tune a guitar to his vo= ice. Is there a harp playing, or have I gone to Heaven? Scanning the aud= ience, I noticed "Lullaby" guy Shawn Mullins nodding off. Did human tranq= uilizer Nick just take a gig on NYPD Blue as Lt. Sleep-owicz? Should I st= ick a needle in my eye or use it to prop open the lid? Evidently, "boredom= " is the eighth deadly sin. >=20 > Cast as Nick's wife is one of Cinderella's stepsisters. Yikes, Nick! P= atricia Arquette she ain't. Not unless you squint, turn your head by 90 de= grees, pound a brew, and view this flick backwards through tissue paper. = Then she's a dead ringer. If Patricia's whole bean, then this babe's groun= d for drip, cone filter. Call it Starbucks Distresso Blend. Robusta, Arab= ica, or Disgusta? Yowee. Drop the crossbow, lady. >=20 > Creepily inserted at every twist and turn is Nick's baby. The message: = This guy may be diving into depravity, but he's also a daddy, dammit. Bab= y's big swollen head keeps bobbing into the scene like a buoy on Baywatch. = Did Mrs. Nick just capture a tiny extraterrestrial or something? "Oh, she= 's touching the phone," says Mrs. Nick. How sweet. Too bad she can't wrap= those tiny fingers around your french roasted neck, Mrs. Nick, and squeeze= the caffeine out of you. I believe that baby just dropped the crossbow! >=20 > Never have I seen a flick where the soundtrack seems so out of place. It= 's sitar-rific! Is Nick chasing S&M Snuff Porno or meditating with Ghandi?= Are those vocals or did somebody sample farm animal squeals? What does p= orno have to do with Tom Tom drums, anyway? Ta-Tas and Pom-Poms I get, but= Tom Toms? >=20 > Nick's out to trace a Snuff film - to discover whether it's real or not. = Unfortunately, the possibly snuffed chick writes poetry that begins "Star = light, Star bright...." meaning a good snuffing was inevitable and - from a= sociological perspective - all for the best. >=20 > Yes, Nick is pee-pee deep in the seedy world of Underground Porno. He's = surrounded by throngs of young runaways. Or maybe it's a WB Network castin= g call; who can tell? Crossbows were tumbling to the floor all over the pl= ace. >=20 > When Nick gets his chance to wreak revenge on the pornographic perpetrato= rs, he asks the girl's mom: "Give me your permission to hurt them." Judgi= ng by the snickers in the audience, you'd think Jim Carrey had just cracked= a butt. Maybe director Schumacher should go back to making schues.=20 >=20 > Among the climaxes (no pun intended) in this movie was Nick's face/off wi= th an S&M Dungeonmaster named "Machine," or as Joel art-directed the word: = "ma-sheen." Sheen's specialty is pain, torture, and making really long spe= eches before he kills someone, thus allowing them plenty of time to escape = and turn the tables on him. When will villains learn, ma-sheen? >=20 > Sorry, Director Joel, you dropped the crossbow on this one. This ma-she= en could use an upgrade. >=20 > Copyright 1999 Mark Ramsey. All rights reserved. NO PORTION MAY BE REPR= ODUCED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR. > ******************** >=20 >=20 > DON=92T FORGET TO VISIT MOVIEJUICE.COM! >=20 >=20 > Hey, kids, don't forget to visit the MovieJuice! Site at http://www.movie= juice.com. The pictures are half the fun (and sometimes more than half the= laughs)! >=20 > ******************** >=20 >=20 > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: >=20 > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL! Just go to http://www.moviejuice.com and fol= low the directions at the top of the left frame. It's very easy. NOTE: Y= OUR NAME CANNOT BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST UNLESS YOU UNSUBSCRIBE USING THE E= MAIL ADDRESS YOU REGISTERED WITH). And don't write me lots of mean-spirite= d crap. I won't read it. >=20 > ******************** >=20 >=20 > IF YOUR LINES AREN'T WRAPPING=85 >=20 > Your browser and/or email client (why DO they call it that?) has a settin= g called "Wrap Long Lines." Select it!=20 >=20 >=20 > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] >=20 [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 09:28:34 PST From: "Rebecca Bezant" Subject: Re: [MV] Avengers vs Armageddon that is very true, being only 85 mins wasnt enough, plus the idea that = everything moved so fast, it made it seem like they wanted to get it over= with. Tim - ---------- > The Avengers is not a good movie......but am I the only person who thin= ks it is > better than Armageddon? Who knows....The Avengers may have been better= if > they had'nt removed that extra thirty minutes. > Gerry T. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:14:07 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Renshaw Subject: [MV] REVIEW: ANALYZE THIS ANALYZE THIS (Warner Bros.) Starring: Robert DeNiro, Billy Crystal, Joe Viterelli, Lisa Kudrow, Chazz Palminteri. Screenplay: Peter Tolan and Harold Ramis and Kenneth Lonergan. Producers: Paula Weinstein and Jane Rosenthal. Director: Harold Ramis. MPAA Rating: R (profanity, violence, sexual situations, adult themes) Running Time: 106 minutes. Reviewed by Scott Renshaw. The very concept behind "high concept" comedy is that the premise sells itself. A potential viewer can see one poster or one 30-second commercial and understand instantly all the wacky comic possibilities: Schwarzenegger and DeVito as twins, Eddie Murphy as the nutty professor, Robin Williams as an iconoclastic medical student. The work is half done, it seems, as soon as the stars sign a contract. The reason so many "high concept" films are so mediocre is that no one bothers to do the other half of the work, leaving a situation comedy that's entirely situation. There was reason to hope for a bit more from ANALYZE THIS, since director Harold Ramis also directed and co-wrote the decade's best high concept comedy, GROUNDHOG DAY. Ramis' set-up this time around involves a New York mob boss named Paul Vitti (Robert DeNiro) who is having some unfamiliar experiences: shortness of breath, crying jags, difficulty -- ahem -- performing. In short, Vitti's got stress. To help with the problem, he visits psychiatrist Ben Sobol (Billy Crystal), and instantly becomes convinced that the doctor is a genius. Suddenly the mild-mannered doctor is expected to be at Vitti's service 24 hours a day, a severe inconvenience as Ben prepares to get married to his fiancee (Lisa Kudrow). As a pitch, it probably sounded hilarious; with DeNiro and Crystal in the lead roles, it probably seemed like a can't-miss mismatched tandem. Instead, ANALYZE THIS is primarily a series of botched opportunities. The most glaring gaffe is the casting of Crystal as Sobol, though at first glance he might appear to be ideal for the uptight therapist. Early in the film we learn that Ben is professionally dissatisfied, sick of his whining patients and left in the shadow of his best-selling pop therapist father (Bill Macy). Not only does this bit of character background prove utterly pointless in the long run, it emphasizes that Ben could have been an interesting charcter if played by an actual actor. Crystal simply can't avoid turning his every scene into shtick, making a classic deadpan straight-man part -- something perfect for, say, DeNiro's MIDNIGHT RUN partner Charles Grodin -- into something silly and clownish. And the parade of bad decisions only begins there. The remarkably talented Lisa Kudrow, though given third billing, is wasted in what amounts to the "girlfriend part" for a handful of scenes; the rival gangster played by Chazz Palminteri, which should have provided a nice counterpoint to the frazzled Vitti, barely registers as a character. Perhaps most distracting is a constantly shifting tone that makes ANALYZE THIS a candidate for its own multiple-therapy session. While scenes of slapstick and comic misunderstanding are colliding with violent shootouts and emotional breakdowns, there's never the feeling that Ramis is aiming for an edgy, dark comedy -- it's just a high concept comedy into which other elements keep intruding. There's no narrative momentum to ANALYZE THIS, no sense of character consequence to keep it from turning into a repetitive series of sketch comedy scenes. There's at least one thing really right with ANALYZE THIS, and that's DeNiro. As many times as he's gone to the wiseguy well in his career -- MEAN STREETS, THE GODFATHER PART II, GOODFELLAS, THE UNTOUCHABLES, etc. -- he always seems to find a new twist to keep it fresh. It's fun watching him nod to his past when he comments on a GODFATHER-inspired dream Ben has, it's fun watching him work with the amusing Joe Viterelli as Vitti's main muscele man, and it's fun watching him show the comic chops he too rarely has a chance to employ. Unfortunately, he's wasting his performance on a movie that doesn't know what to do with its actors, its premise -- one-upped by the current HBO series "The Sopranos" -- or its character development. ANALYZE THIS is a smaller scale example of what happens to so many summer blockbusters: it's a ready-made marketing campaign to which a film has been attached almost as an afterthought. 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