From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #180 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Monday, April 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 180 Re: [MV] the line as begun Re: [MV] Movie News - 04/08/99 Re: [MV] Re: star wars cuts [MV] Go review RE: [MV] the line (h)as begun [MV] REVIEW: COOKIE'S FORTUNE [MV] MovieJuice! - THE MATRIX - Neo-Classic! RE: [MV] the line as begun -Reply Re: [MV] the line (h)as begun RE: [MV] the line as begun -Reply Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply [MV] Billions and Billions ... Re: [MV] $8-10 per ticket [MV] Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:56:36 PDT Re: [MV] $8-10 per ticket Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... [MV] Matrix RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:24:15 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] the line as begun "Romero, Leticia" wrote: > > no, no, no... they're in line to buy tickets on the 1st DAY... tickets will > not be sold until openning day... 26 days to go... Some folks sincerely need to go out and get girlfriends. It's just a movie, for crying out loud. ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:52:07 -0700 From: "Wade Snider" Subject: Re: [MV] Movie News - 04/08/99 Forget about Star Wars, I think I'd do that anyway, yuk yuk!!! Wade >In reference to the theater requirements in order to show Phantom Menace, I >think if I owned a theater and they required that I run around in a pink too >too and did a dance before each showing of the movie, I'd still do it. >There's probably going to be a shortage of popcorn in America around the >middle of May to the end of June. > >James K. Rudy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: The Reporter [mailto:gregorys@xmission.com] >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 12:10 PM >To: Movies Mailing List >Subject: [MV] Movie News - 04/08/99 > > >LOS ANGELES (AP) - If theaters want the Force to be with them, they >may have to meet strict conditions. The studio distributing the >eagerly anticipated "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace" wants >multiplexes to show the movie only in their biggest and best theaters >for at least two months, with no more than eight minutes of coming >attractions. In addition, 20th Century Fox is asking theater owners >who play "Phantom" on more than one screen to keep it on all those >screens through the minimum run. Theaters are also being told to >refrain from using a single movie print to show the film on two >screens. And they're being asked not to show any non-movie >advertisements before the film. > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:53:45 -0700 From: "Wade Snider" Subject: Re: [MV] Re: star wars cuts There is such a list, and it accounts for inflation, too... http://www.the-movie-times.com/ Ck it.. Wade - -----Original Message----- From: jkrudy To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [MV] Re: star wars cuts >Speaking of the amount of money movies have made (let's keep it >domestically) it would be interesting to see the top 50 highest grossing >films (ticket sales only), taking into account inflation and what not. Is >there such a list? How much did Star Wars make in the theaters? > >James K. Rudy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mel Eperthener [mailto:bcassidy@usaor.net] >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:32 PM >To: movies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [MV] Re: star wars cuts > > >At 11.27 AM 09/04/99 -0700, Oz wrote: >>I doubt they'd bother asking for more than the standard. The films >>going to make an absolute killing and will make more money in >>lunchbox sales than most films will make at the box office in their >>entire run. > >Interesting that you should mention that. I read an interview with Lucas >recently about the original movie. He had no idea what he had, and >expected the movie to barely break even. (I'm not sure of the contract, >but think there was some tie-in with profitability). However, he INSISTED >on the merchandising rights, expecting (rightly so on this count) to >literally make a killing. And right he was. As successful as the films >were, I do believe that Lucas himself (and his company) have still >generated the majority of their profits from those "lunchbox sales". > >And seeing the interest already in TPM merchandise, there is absolutely no >reason to expect this to be any different. Not only is this going to blow >Cameron right out of the water ($600 million domestic?? Pshaw!), but those >numbers won't even begin to touch the merchandise numbers. > >Regards, > >--Mel > > >--Mel Eperthener >president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty > >email: bcassidy@usaor.net > gowanna@australiamail.com > >http://www.webz.com/gowanna > >419 Butler Street >PO Box 95184 >Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 >(412) 781-6140 >(412) 781-6380 >1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE >(1-888-454-6926) >____________________________________________ >"Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for >two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" > >--Dana Scully >______________________________________________ > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:11:38 -0700 From: "Jason Cormier" Subject: [MV] Go review From the director of the hugely successful (in the independent scene anyway) Swingers (see it if you haven't) comes this entertaining journey through the interconnecting lives of a bunch of young hooligans. I was pleasantly amused throughout this flick though I never felt anything while watching it. All reviews will probably use Pulp Fiction as a comparison flick, including this one. The movie is editted to show us different stories and how they all interact and come together throughout the movie. It's fun to watch the same scene from different perspectives (which is why I liked Snake Eyes - oops-there goes my credibility as a movie guy). This movie is definitely targetted to teens and early 20's so if you belong to that demographic then you would probably have a good time. I was entertained so I gotta give it a 74%. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 99 02:31:55 -0700 From: David F. Nolan Subject: RE: [MV] the line (h)as begun >no, no, no... they're in line to buy tickets on the 1st DAY... tickets will >not be sold until openning day... 26 days to go... Unless I've missed something, it's more like 39 days, as of today (4-10-1999). I have to wonder ... do these people have lives? I finally saw a trailer for "Phantom Menace" last night, when I went to see "The Matrix" (5-star production, 2.5-star script) and while it looks way cool, NO movie is worth hanging out in front of a theater for 40 days! I've seen all the "Star Wars" movies, and I'm sure gonna see this one ... but I'll wait until the loonies have sated themselves before hiking down to my local theater! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:56:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Scott Renshaw Subject: [MV] REVIEW: COOKIE'S FORTUNE COOKIE'S FORTUNE (October) Starring: Glenn Close, Julianne Moore, Liv Tyler, Chris O'Donnell, Charles S. Dutton, Patricia Neal, Ned Beatty, Courtney B. Vance. Screenplay: Anne Rapp. Producers: Robert Altman and Etchie Stroh. Director: Robert Altman. MPAA Rating: PG-13 (profanity, adult themes, violence) Running Time: 117 minutes. Reviewed by Scott Renshaw. In his last film, 1998's little-seen THE GINGERBREAD MAN, Robert Altman took his unique perspective to the finer points of the legal system's workings in the American South. Apparently he decided he hadn't yet explored it in all possible depth, because he's back in Dixie for COOKIE'S FORTUNE. The region's easy rhythms and idiosyncracies seem to suit the film-maker well, and he seems to be having a heck of a good time with his visits there. COOKIE'S FORTUNE finds Altman laying down a blues jam of intertwining characters spiced with a deft, dry comic touch into a surprising, off-beat entertainment. The Cookie of the title is eccentric matriarch Jewel Mae "Cookie" Orcutt (Patricia Neal), strong-willed inabitant of a Holly Springs, Mississippi manor with her black houseman Willis (Charles S. Dutton). Cookie is estranged from her only family in town, nieces Camille Dixon (Glenn Close) and Cora Duvall (Julianne Moore), but that doesn't stop the overbearing Camille from considering everything connected to her family her business. That's especially true when Camille visits Cookie's home, only to discover a scene which could potentially bring embarrassment to the family, and contrives a story to cover it up. Her story sets in motion a strange chain of events which finds innocent people jailed, secrets revealed, and plenty of Wild Turkey consumed. COOKIE'S FORTUNE is probably most easily summarized as a Southern spin on FARGO's tale of polite, common-sense police investigation, but that doesn't entirely capture the film's quirky rhythms. On the surface it's the story of Camille's manipulations -- of simple-minded Cora, of Cora's wild-child expatriate daughter Emma (Liv Tyler), of everyone involved in the investigation at Cookie's estate -- providing Glenn Close with a grand showcase for a woman who turns her own life into a Tennessee Williams play. Yet even as Camille's plans begin to unravel, COOKIE'S FORTUNE is less about the suspense and tension of guilt exposed than it is about the pleasures of watching it meander to its inevitable conclusion. As it is in many Altman films, the plot -- well-constructed as it is by Anne Rapp -- works best as a place for a handful of appealing performances to unfold. And there are certainly plenty of appealing performances, of which Close's is only the most gaudy. Charles S. Dutton wraps himself around Willis's good-natured roguery, giving the character a well-worn charm; Ned Beatty similarly entertains as the police chief little concerned with by-the-book procedure among friends; Matt Malloy has a funny minor role as an overzealous investigator. Even Chris O'Donnell, so often an attractive blank hole as an actor, acquits himself well in the ideal role of a puppydog-eager-to-please deputy. The only stumble comes from Julianne Moore, who doesn't know quite what to do with Cora, whether to make her a simple naif or an even sadder case of a woman with a genuine developmental disability. Fortunately she's a rare false note in Altman's smooth orchestration. COOKIE'S FORTUNE is the kind of unconventional narrative of lingering takes that may leave some viewers shifting in their seats waiting for the point of it all. For Altman, in this particular case, taking the time to get to the point is actually part of the point. It's a comedy of details dropped in almost off-handedly, and others -- a hand literally caught in the cookie jar, for instance -- underlined at just the right moment. It doesn't add up to all that much either as character study or as crime drama, nor does it take the straightest path between any two points. It's merely a lazy, crazy, consistently amusing diversion about a place where you only know the true measure of a man (or a woman) after you've gone fishing together. It's a place Altman might consider visiting more often. On the Renshaw scale of 0 to 10 sweet cookies: 8. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit Scott Renshaw's Screening Room http://www.inconnect.com/~renshaw/ *** Subscribe to receive new reviews directly by email! See the Screening Room for details, or reply to this message with subject "Subscribe". - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:42:09 -0400 (EDT) From: maillist@moviejuice.com Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - THE MATRIX - Neo-Classic! THE MATRIX - NEO-CLASSIC! by Mark Ramsey http://www.moviejuice.com April 10, 1999 Dudes, The Matrix is a most excellent adventure, utterly lacking in bogus-ity! Why oh why do so many critics hate this flick? Is it the absence of a Shakespeare writing credit (Olde Will's writing was strong, but his Kung Fu was notoriously weak)? Is it because there's no role for cinema darling Christina Ricci? Or are the critics just way smarter than me? Well, let's call that last one a given. Hey, maybe the gang at Tavern on the Green loves obscuro-flicks like Lovers of the Arctic Circle, but down here at Tavern on the Puke-Soaked Street-Corner The Matrix rocks like a hurricane! Here's the scenario: It's the future, only we think it's the present. And the beautiful world we live in is a dream. It's just "the Matrix" pulled over our eyes to blind us from the ugly truth of the real world, just like Disneyland, but without the stroller rentals. "Bonjour, churls! Welcome to Epcot's French-land. Care for a Crescent Roll?" In the future a phone booth is used for transportation rather than its current use: breeding smelly, infectious germs and getting them as close to your mouth as possible. Why are the phone books always missing? They've either been deboned by the terminally lost or zapped into the Matrix! "Fashion forward" is much simplified two-hundred years hence. Everyone wears black and uses Nokia phones. Lesson: San Francisco will conquer the world! Speaking of couture noir, sweet thang Carrie-Anne Moss is not exactly dressed for comfort. She's half Catwoman, half Domi-Matrix. Clad in sexy, tight, leather battle-gear, this chick will bang you to death (one way or another). This is more woman than Keanu will ever have, and you can take that any way you like. At the top of my Matrix-sequel wish list: A Carrie-Anne Battle Thong. Let's hope the action figures are life-size! Sam Jackson plays "Laurence Fishburne," the "Shaft"-alike leader of the anti-Matrixulators. "The Matrix," says Sam, "is a scheme to change people into Duracell Batteries." I'm serious! Talk about premium product placement! Fortunately nobody needs a charge of alkaline energy like the listless Keanu "Chan," who fights like a fiery demon but acts like a flickering match. Keanu sucks up screen energy like an emotional dust-vac, albeit a well-toned one with a nice fresh bag. "Ever have that feeling you're not still awake but still dreaming?" Sam asks Keanu. Yup, whenever Keanu delivers a line. But hey, if movies like The Matrix required "acting" then we'd all be using the phrase: "Oscar-winner Dolph Lundgren." Keanu's arch-nemesis is a Robo-Secret Service man whose pokey drawl luxuriates over each syllable like every word is taking time out for a bubble bath. Close your eyes and you'll think John Huston just overdosed on valium. What's with the Mr. Spock-speak? During his long soliloquies - say, one or two sentences - I was mightily distracted by his lunar surfaced teeth. Is there a face on that surface? Do those pocks have pocks? How does your Nokia signal evade those behemoth bicuspids? In this flick everybody's Kung-Fu fighting! Lifting a page from the legendary film critic of the Los Angeles Times, "Joe Bob" Turan, there's: - - "Drew-fu" as The Matrix kick's butt all over Never Been Kissed, even in its second weekend. - - "Pity-the-fu" as Keanu misses all of Carrie's animal attraction cues. Dude, this chick wants you! - - "Fishburne-fu" as Sam plays Obi-Wan to Keanu's Tai fighting - - "Fu-for-thought" as Sam tries in vain to explain the Matrix in a way Warner Bros. executives can understand - - "Fru-Fru Fu," code-name for the demands Gwyneth Paltrow places on her boyfriends In The Matrix, artificial intelligence has spawned a race of machines that grow humans in humungous fields. Could this explain Adam Sandler's corn-bred fan base? If this mod agriculture is really possible, then couldn't the makers of EDtv have grown their audience instead of luring folks at the door with drawings for cash prizes and free Leno tickets? Personally, I find it creepy: The idea that we're all machine-controlled pawns living out dreamlike existences. A superficial fantasy where we slavishly follow the rules of the toys that we made. This must be what a career in Sales is like! The Matrix is an imaginative treat. And the mind-blowing visual effects actually enhance the story; imagine that! As for Keanu, he may be light on acting chops but his karate chops are second to none! Copyright 1999 Mark Ramsey. All rights reserved. NO PORTION MAY BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR. ******************** THE NEW CAA WEB PAGE - MUST SEE Okay, this is the last time I'm gonna tell you. Check out the CAA web page and see how far things have come since the Ovitz days. And don't miss the "Agent-Cam." At least I think it's the CAA page! http://www.moviejuice.com/1999/caa.htm ******************** DON’T FORGET TO VISIT MOVIEJUICE.COM! Hey, kids, don't forget to visit the MovieJuice! Site at http://www.moviejuice.com. The pictures are half the fun (and sometimes more than half the laughs)! ******************** TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL! Just go to http://www.moviejuice.com and follow the directions at the top of the left frame. It's very easy. NOTE: YOUR NAME CANNOT BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST UNLESS YOU UNSUBSCRIBE USING THE EMAIL ADDRESS YOU REGISTERED WITH). And don't write me lots of mean-spirited crap. I won't read it. ******************** IF YOUR LINES AREN'T WRAPPING… Your browser and/or email client (why DO they call it that?) has a setting called "Wrap Long Lines." Select it! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:05:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Christi Eilleen Falk Subject: RE: [MV] the line as begun -Reply Didn't anyone think of a visa card? You should be able to phone, shouldn't you? [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:02:49 -0700 From: "Wade Snider" Subject: Re: [MV] the line (h)as begun I completely agree. >>no, no, no... they're in line to buy tickets on the 1st DAY... tickets will >>not be sold until openning day... 26 days to go... > >Unless I've missed something, it's more like 39 days, as of today >(4-10-1999). > >I have to wonder ... do these people have lives? I finally saw a trailer >for "Phantom Menace" last night, when I went to see "The Matrix" (5-star >production, 2.5-star script) and while it looks way cool, NO movie is >worth hanging out in front of a theater for 40 days! > >I've seen all the "Star Wars" movies, and I'm sure gonna see this one ... >but I'll wait until the loonies have sated themselves before hiking down >to my local theater! > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:00:18 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: RE: [MV] the line as begun -Reply At 11.05 AM 11/04/99 -0500, Christi Eilleen Falk wrote: >Didn't anyone think of a visa card? You should be able to phone, shouldn't you? We should be so lucky. No early sales. Just like when the first (fourth) movie was released 22 years ago, back before you could purchase tix in advance, the only way to see this is to wait in queue. Until all the hype dies down, they don't want any scalpers involved. Noble ideals, I am sure, but probably the real reason is that Lucas doesn't want anyone else to benefit from his hard work. The good news is that the theatres can start showing the film at 12.01 AM on the 19th, meaning that most of the geeks will get into those late/early shows, and that there will actually be a (slim) chance for normal folks to see this work come Wednesday evening. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty Please support the endeavour of a friend and fellow Australian. Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings ____________________________________________ Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas. - -Former Australian cabinet minister Keppell (Kip) Enderby __________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:14:52 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply > Until all the hype dies down, they don't want any scalpers involved. Noble > ideals, I am sure, but probably the real reason is that Lucas doesn't want > anyone else to benefit from his hard work. DId you know that Lucas is funding this whole thing himself?? The whole movie. He's gonna make 500 million dollars from this one alone. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:55:09 +30000 From: Vi On Subject: RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket > you think they charge $8 for a bucket and soda? They are not only charging > you for the food, they're charging for the CONTAINERS! You try asking for > an empty large cup or bag, see what happens... oh, that's why, I once asked for another empty bag and the guy had to ask the boss for permission. took like 1 minute just so I can get an empty bag. I was thinking maybe they don't want to give out another bag because they need to keep count of how many bags are gone, keeping count of the # of popcorns sold. - -Vi [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:51:15 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket At 04.55 PM 11/04/99 +30000, Vi On wrote: > >> you think they charge $8 for a bucket and soda? They are not only charging >> you for the food, they're charging for the CONTAINERS! You try asking for >> an empty large cup or bag, see what happens... > > oh, that's why, I once asked for another empty bag and the guy >had to ask the boss for permission. took like 1 minute just so I can get >an empty bag. I was thinking maybe they don't want to give out another >bag because they need to keep count of how many bags are gone, keeping >count of the # of popcorns sold. > Well, you're not wrong, Vi. They do use the number of bags to count inventory. The dirty little secret with both popcorn and fountain drinks is that they are so dirt cheap that the containers cost more than the product. Did you ever wonder why the fast food places now give free refills, if you keep the same cup?? Because it's so bloody cheap. It's cheaper than coffee, and they have been giving free coffee refills since the beginning of time, so it's about time that soda was made more reasonable. (The reason that 7-11 charges 10 cents more for a gallon of soda than a few ounces cost) The mark-up on the containers is enough to give theatres the revenue they need to stay in business, the revenue that the $10 tickets don't provide. However, esp at the levels they purchase, they're practically given the product and charged for the container. So the theatre wasn't going to go broke giving up one bag, but that did eat into their profits greatly. Better to bring your own bag, and ask for extra popcorn:-) Speaking of popcorn, was it here or somewhere else that I read they reckon, only slightly tongue-in-cheek that there will be a popcorn shortage in the US through the end of June?? :-) Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:33:14 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply At 03.14 PM 11/04/99 EDT, SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: >DId you know that Lucas is funding this whole thing himself?? The whole >movie. He's gonna make 500 million dollars from this one alone. Uh, I'd up the figures on this one, mate. By at least a factor of 10. The movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide, and merchandising will blow that away. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty Please support the endeavour of a friend and fellow Australian. Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings ____________________________________________ Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas. - -Former Australian cabinet minister Keppell (Kip) Enderby __________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:09:09 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply > Uh, I'd up the figures on this one, mate. By at least a factor of 10. The > movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide, and merchandising will blow > that away. a random figure I pulled out of the air...... the point was, I hope, that he's gonna make quite a bit of money, to say the least. He'll probably make bill gates look middle class after all this is over. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:25:38 -0400 From: Mike Allen Subject: Re: [MV] the line as begun -Reply maybe not that far.. but hey maybe they can be roomies? hehe - -Mike Allen SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: > > Uh, I'd up the figures on this one, mate. By at least a factor of 10. The > > movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide, and merchandising will blow > > that away. > > a random figure I pulled out of the air...... the point was, I hope, that > he's gonna make quite a bit of money, to say the least. He'll probably make > bill gates look middle class after all this is over. > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 99 16:30:12 -0700 From: David F. Nolan Subject: [MV] Billions and Billions ... >> > Uh, I'd up the figures on this one, mate. By at least a factor of 10. The >> > movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide, and merchandising will >blow that away. >> >> a random figure I pulled out of the air...... the point was, I hope, that >> he's gonna make quite a bit of money, to say the least. He'll probably make >> bill gates look middle class after all this is over. C'mon guys ... you're getting silly now. AFTER adjusting for inflation, the all-time box office champ, "Gone With The Wind," has taken in less than $1 billion, domestically. "Titanic" did about $600M domestically. "Phantom Menace" will probably wind up in the same league ... but $2 billion? No way! Lucas could well make close to a billion, personally, after the dust settles, but a bil ain't what it used to be. Heck, Jerry Seinfeld made a quarter-bil in the last two years! And Gates is closing in on $100 billion, if he hasn't already passed it. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:04:46 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] $8-10 per ticket Mel Eperthener wrote: > > However, esp at the levels they purchase, they're practically given the > product and charged for the container. And certain chains have advertising on their popcorn and drink containers, thereby moving into the realm of total profit. But thinking about the whole popcorn issue, isn't it time folks had a bit of a think why they actually queue for ages and then pay through the nose for the crappy snacks theatres provide? Personally, if I'm going to the cinema I make I'm wearing cargo pants with big pockets, stop in at Burger King before I enter the cinema, and fill my pockets with burgers, nuggets and a fair sized bottle of coke. Sure, you're not supposed to bring in your own food, but it'll be a brave cinema worker who'll stick their hand down my pants in search of a burger, even if I smell like hot meat patties. For four bucks I can feast! Mind you, it can get a bit messy if you feel the urge to remove the pickle, and the smell often sees the people seated next to you suddenly get hungry, but if you must eat you might as well be eating heartily. Besides, cinemas only started selling popcorn initially because it was the only food that cinema-goers during the depression could afford. Now people buy it out of sheer habit. Fight the power! ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:57:09 -0600 From: "William Jimenez" Subject: [MV] Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:56:36 PDT unsubscribe movies _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:40:17 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] $8-10 per ticket At 11.04 AM 12/04/99 -0700, Oz wrote: >Mind you, it can get a bit messy if you feel the urge to remove the >pickle, and the smell often sees the people seated next to you >suddenly get hungry, but if you must eat you might as well be eating >heartily. But if you make your neighbours hungry, they'll get up and grab more popcorn and such. Therefore, by trying to beat the system, you're actually benefitting the theatre:-) Hey, a great argument if you even get caught with your,uh, pants full:-) Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:36:57 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... At 04.30 PM 11/04/99 -0700, David F. Nolan wrote: >The >>> > movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide >C'mon guys ... you're getting silly now. AFTER adjusting for inflation, >the all-time box office champ, "Gone With The Wind," has taken in less >than $1 billion, domestically. "Titanic" did about $600M domestically. And $1.2 Billion International equals $1.8 Billion worldwide. >"Phantom Menace" will probably wind up in the same league ... but $2 >billion? No way! Think Phantom Menace can't do 10% more business than Titanic?? Plus GWTW and SW were re-and-re-and-re-released. Much as I hate to admit it, Titanic's box office could grow much beyond that, if it's ever brought back into the theatres. And we're not even considering video rental, pay-per-view, video sales, cable, free TV, etc, etc. > >Lucas could well make close to a billion, personally, after the dust >settles, but a bil ain't what it used to be. Well, I sure wouldn't turn it down:-) But I think Lucas is worth somewhere in that neighbourhood by now, anyway. Fortune usually publishes a list. But I don't have the time to track figures down. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty Please support the endeavour of a friend and fellow Australian. Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings ____________________________________________ Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas. - -Former Australian cabinet minister Keppell (Kip) Enderby __________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 99 21:43:04 -0700 From: David F. Nolan Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... >>Lucas could well make close to a billion, personally, after the dust >>settles, but a bil ain't what it used to be. > >Well, I sure wouldn't turn it down:-) Hey, I wouldn't turn down a billion either! >But I think Lucas is worth somewhere in that neighbourhood by now, anyway. >Fortune usually publishes a list. But I don't have the time to track figures down. Lucas is currently worth an even $2.0 bil, according to FORBES. NOt bad, but about 2% of Bill Gates' pile. I'd guess than "Phantom" will gross around $750 million domestically, maybe double that worldwide ... eventually. But that's gross; Lucas won't get all of that, by any means. And the movie wasn't cheap to produce. Of course, with all the tie-ins and product licensing, he could wind up with a third billion in his pocket. And then a fourth, from the next episode. And so on. (And Oz is right about the popcorn. Worst food value on the planet! But it's easier to sneak in a candy bar or two than a greasy old BK burger!) [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:06:33 -0400 From: Gene Ehrich Subject: [MV] Matrix My wife and I listened to all the hype and went to see Matrix last night at the new theater in Cherry Hill NJ. Great theater with stadium seating for anybody who lives nearby. Not so great movie. Could not believe how bad the first half of this movie was. Made no sense at all why it was even made. The second half was real exciting although I would have to say it still made no sense at all. Talk about missing story line. Great special effects but that was all it had. Two thumbs down for Matrix Two thumbs up for the theater. gene@ehrich http://www.voicenet.com/~generic Computer & Video Game Garage Sale Gene Ehrich PO Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:04:47 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket It was I who mentioned the potential for a popcorn shortage this summer. I was only joking of course. James K. Rudy - -----Original Message----- From: Mel Eperthener [mailto:bcassidy@usaor.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 1999 3:51 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [MV] $8-10 per ticket At 04.55 PM 11/04/99 +30000, Vi On wrote: > >> you think they charge $8 for a bucket and soda? They are not only charging >> you for the food, they're charging for the CONTAINERS! You try asking for >> an empty large cup or bag, see what happens... > > oh, that's why, I once asked for another empty bag and the guy >had to ask the boss for permission. took like 1 minute just so I can get >an empty bag. I was thinking maybe they don't want to give out another >bag because they need to keep count of how many bags are gone, keeping >count of the # of popcorns sold. > Well, you're not wrong, Vi. They do use the number of bags to count inventory. The dirty little secret with both popcorn and fountain drinks is that they are so dirt cheap that the containers cost more than the product. Did you ever wonder why the fast food places now give free refills, if you keep the same cup?? Because it's so bloody cheap. It's cheaper than coffee, and they have been giving free coffee refills since the beginning of time, so it's about time that soda was made more reasonable. (The reason that 7-11 charges 10 cents more for a gallon of soda than a few ounces cost) The mark-up on the containers is enough to give theatres the revenue they need to stay in business, the revenue that the $10 tickets don't provide. However, esp at the levels they purchase, they're practically given the product and charged for the container. So the theatre wasn't going to go broke giving up one bag, but that did eat into their profits greatly. Better to bring your own bag, and ask for extra popcorn:-) Speaking of popcorn, was it here or somewhere else that I read they reckon, only slightly tongue-in-cheek that there will be a popcorn shortage in the US through the end of June?? :-) Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:07:42 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... If we're going to factor in other money making sources, ask yourself this: how many action figures did Titanic sell. James K. Rudy - -----Original Message----- From: Mel Eperthener [mailto:bcassidy@usaor.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 1999 9:37 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... At 04.30 PM 11/04/99 -0700, David F. Nolan wrote: >The >>> > movie itself should clear $2 billion worldwide >C'mon guys ... you're getting silly now. AFTER adjusting for inflation, >the all-time box office champ, "Gone With The Wind," has taken in less >than $1 billion, domestically. "Titanic" did about $600M domestically. And $1.2 Billion International equals $1.8 Billion worldwide. >"Phantom Menace" will probably wind up in the same league ... but $2 >billion? No way! Think Phantom Menace can't do 10% more business than Titanic?? Plus GWTW and SW were re-and-re-and-re-released. Much as I hate to admit it, Titanic's box office could grow much beyond that, if it's ever brought back into the theatres. And we're not even considering video rental, pay-per-view, video sales, cable, free TV, etc, etc. > >Lucas could well make close to a billion, personally, after the dust >settles, but a bil ain't what it used to be. Well, I sure wouldn't turn it down:-) But I think Lucas is worth somewhere in that neighbourhood by now, anyway. Fortune usually publishes a list. But I don't have the time to track figures down. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty Please support the endeavour of a friend and fellow Australian. Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings ____________________________________________ Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas. - -Former Australian cabinet minister Keppell (Kip) Enderby __________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 99 09:48:17 -0700 From: David F. Nolan Subject: RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... >If we're going to factor in other money making sources, ask yourself this: >how many action figures did Titanic sell. Not many, but a whooooole lotta CDs! James Horner made about $50 million from the soundtrack album, and Celine Dion made something like $50 million offa that one damned song! Obviously we're talking huge amounts of money for all these movies, but I'd still bet on about $750 million domestic gross ticket sales for the upcoming Star Wars epic. The original SW has taken in about $800 mil, inflation-adjusted, over more than 20 years. And now, people have the option of waiting for video release. We should all have the problem of wondering whether we're gonna make one billion or two off a single movie! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:49:09 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... "David F. Nolan" wrote: > > We should all have the problem of wondering whether we're gonna make one > billion or two off a single movie! I actually got a look at the full merchandise licensee list for Ep One today... holy cow. 12 pages long. Everything from sports socks to tennis racquets to electric toothbrushes to "impact resistant character helmets". For the record, I shall not be queueing up outside my local sports store the day the Boba Fett tennis racquets go on sale, but I bet I know people who will. It's all so sad... ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:03:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Christi Eilleen Falk Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... You know, when you start talking billions, the number is so big, it's almost rendered meaningless. There is no way a person could spend that amount in their life time, even if they had to put a family of quintuplets thru college. Not that these millionaires would ever risk a family to squander their precious fortune. If they could manage to put a large dent in this amount by the time they died, It would be a terrible dissappointment. How many yatchs or mansions with 23 bathrooms does this world need? Why don't these people get off their duffs and do something about world poverty. No, I don't mean a stupid movie. The world already has enough Saving Private Ryan movies, I mean get over to that third world country on the tv, kick sally struthers' a## into a weight loss program, and get those people out of poverty. For someone who's worth 100 billion, what's donating 1 billion to a worthy cause? Or maybe their saving it for a rainy day. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:41 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... I think Harrison Ford summed it all up when interviewed during the re-release of the Special Edition episodes. He said, "I was really disappointed in Star Wars. It wasn't nearly as successful as I thought it would be." That's just it about Star Wars. It was suppose to amount to nothing. I believe Lucas himself said he would have been happy with breaking even, yet look at what it accomplished. James Cameron didn't make a $200,000,000 film in the hopes of breaking even. He knew it would be a success (maybe not as much of a success as he ended up being) and that's why he made it. That's not the case with the original Star Wars movie, and the fact that it was such a huge success speaks volumes about this ground-breaking movie. James K. Rudy - -----Original Message----- From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:48 AM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... >If we're going to factor in other money making sources, ask yourself this: >how many action figures did Titanic sell. Not many, but a whooooole lotta CDs! James Horner made about $50 million from the soundtrack album, and Celine Dion made something like $50 million offa that one damned song! Obviously we're talking huge amounts of money for all these movies, but I'd still bet on about $750 million domestic gross ticket sales for the upcoming Star Wars epic. The original SW has taken in about $800 mil, inflation-adjusted, over more than 20 years. And now, people have the option of waiting for video release. We should all have the problem of wondering whether we're gonna make one billion or two off a single movie! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:06:20 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Billions and Billions ... BOBA FETT TENNIS RACQUETS? HOLY COW WHERE CAN I GET ONE? Just kidding. The merchandise does get a little ridiculous doesn't it? Now having said that, I do have an original Empire Strikes Back bed sheet. I'm proud to say that I don't use it on my bed anymore, but my oldest son does! James K. Rudy - -----Original Message----- From: Oz [mailto:oz@filmink-online.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:49 AM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Billions and Billions ... "David F. Nolan" wrote: > > We should all have the problem of wondering whether we're gonna make one > billion or two off a single movie! I actually got a look at the full merchandise licensee list for Ep One today... holy cow. 12 pages long. Everything from sports socks to tennis racquets to electric toothbrushes to "impact resistant character helmets". For the record, I shall not be queueing up outside my local sports store the day the Boba Fett tennis racquets go on sale, but I bet I know people who will. It's all so sad... ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #180 **************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]