From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #196 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Monday, June 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 196 Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies -- not all sequels are created equal Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs RE: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs RE: [MV] Re: Really, really, really bad movies Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal RE: [MV] not all sequels are created equal RE: [MV] not all sequels are created equal Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal -Reply RE: [MV] re: A very bad movie [MV] sequels Re: [MV] sequels Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs [MV] Re: millennial film fest [MV] Singapour Sling Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies [MV] Movie News - 05/30/99 RE: [MV] re: A very bad movie RE: [MV] Singapour Sling RE: [MV] Singapour Sling RE: [MV] Singapour Sling RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies-matrix RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:09:26 -0600 From: cHriS Subject: Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs The last rumor I heard about a Lambs sequel was that Ridley Scott was allegedly signed as the director. - - cHriS [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:26:27 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies -- not all sequels are created equal Patterns are not always full-proof: Godfather 2 Star Wars 2 (or is that 5?) Indiana Jones 2 The recently mentioned Silence of the Lambs I felt these were all good, if not better than their predecessors. That's all I can think of for now, but I'm sure there are others. James - -----Original Message----- From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:57 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Speed 2 ... Species 2 ... Highlander 2 ... Caddyshack 2 ... am I sensing a pattern here? PS1: I can't imagine that "American Pie" is any worse than "Idle Hands," just to cite a current example of dumb-ass teenage movies. PS2: "Dumb and Dumber" is essentially a live-action version of "Beavis & Butthead Do America." It works much better as a cartoon! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:56:01 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies At 03.10 PM 03/06/99 -0700, David F. Nolan wrote: >>Besides, nothing, NOTHING can be as bad as Speed 2. > >Oh, yeah? How about: Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, Plump Fiction, >Chairman of the Board, I Got The Hook-Up, Belly, The Avengers, Mr. Magoo, >Meet the Deedles, StrangeLand, and Knock Off? Sorry, but Speed 2 still gets my vote. Not sure why (perhaps because the I enjoyed the first so well), but the time spent watching that movie was two hours wasted from my life that I will NEVER get back!! And I even had friends warn me, and still sat there. It was like a car accident, I couldn't look away from the carnage that was Sandra Bullock's career. Yes, many of the movies you named were truly terrible (although I know a lot of people that loved Strangeland, it it has made a nice profit for us), but IMHO none reach the depths that Speed 2 did. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:56:08 CDT From: Wade S. Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Hahahaha... tks... How about Jaws 4? >|:| >|:| CADDYSHACK TWO >|:| > >NO KIDDING! Good call Wade. > >How 'bout Poltergeist 3? Or anything starring Corey Haim? (except The Lost >Boys, of course). > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:07:17 CDT From: Wade S. Subject: Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs There's quite a few rumors, but none very conclusive sounding. The Ridley Scott rumor just popped up this week, because Johnathan Demme supposedly says that the script is "too violent." Hahahahahaha. Not that i doubt it, but "Silence" had one of the most really terrifyingly evil characters in the movies in who knows when, and Demme thinks it's too violent? He's gotten a little soft maybe...... As far as I know, Scott hasn't signed the deal. The rumor just says that he's just gotten the script and has been offered the job. He's finishing up "Gladiator" right now, filming in Malta, Greece, and Italy, and I think England, so supposedly he's got room in his schedule for the production to supposedly begin before the end of the year, which is what the rumors seem to think would be the starting point. Well, the book is titled Hannibal (out on Tuesday), and so supposedly will the movie be called. Hopkins and Foster were to have been quoted a year or so ago that they'd both like to do a sequel. But, neither has been signed or anything. Sounds like it's just beginning to move towards the latter part of development stage since the screenplay's been written by Harris. > >The last rumor I heard about a Lambs sequel was that Ridley Scott was >allegedly signed as the director. > >- cHriS > > > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:04:44 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs At 12.47 PM 04/06/99 -0600, jkrudy wrote: >A review I read today about Instinct eluded to the possibility of their >being a sequel to The Silence of the Lambs. Does anybody have any details >about this? I do know that it would be a third installment, since TSOTL was >a sequel of sorts to Manhunter. The review said that the book by Thomas >Harris is coming out next week and that the movie will "soon follow." If >anybody knows anything, please let me know. I believe that the book is called Hannibal. Harris has been promising the book for years, with nothing concrete, then one day he either (depending on the version you hear) showed up at the publisher's with the book, or it was delivered without notice. Either way, this book showed up out of the blue, and it's arrival made a lot of people happy. Corona (not sure of the URL) has a page on this movie with what is known (not a lot yet) and what is spectulated (heaps and heaps). The characters played by Foster and Hopkins (Startling and Lecter???) are in the book, and although neither actor has been signed, they are reported to be interested. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:31:14 -0500 From: "Joshua Crow" Subject: RE: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs As far as Demme's cold feet, I had heard that all of the recent backlash about violence toward Hollywood has made him skittish. Whether that is a result of his own personal principles, or just an inability to take a stand when under pressure is a question we'll have to leave to the philosophers. Josh [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:43:12 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Really, really, really bad movies I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. It wasn't even a disaster of a movie, it was a second rate disaster of a movie. Besides, if both Sandra and Keanu couldn't be in it, wouldn't it have made more sense to have the sequel focus on Keanu's character? What a complete piece of schlock! James - -----Original Message----- From: Mel Eperthener [mailto:bcassidy@usaor.net] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:56 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies At 03.10 PM 03/06/99 -0700, David F. Nolan wrote: >>Besides, nothing, NOTHING can be as bad as Speed 2. > >Oh, yeah? How about: Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, Plump Fiction, >Chairman of the Board, I Got The Hook-Up, Belly, The Avengers, Mr. Magoo, >Meet the Deedles, StrangeLand, and Knock Off? Sorry, but Speed 2 still gets my vote. Not sure why (perhaps because the I enjoyed the first so well), but the time spent watching that movie was two hours wasted from my life that I will NEVER get back!! And I even had friends warn me, and still sat there. It was like a car accident, I couldn't look away from the carnage that was Sandra Bullock's career. Yes, many of the movies you named were truly terrible (although I know a lot of people that loved Strangeland, it it has made a nice profit for us), but IMHO none reach the depths that Speed 2 did. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:27:21 +0100 From: "Garrett Winters" Subject: Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs - ---------- James Rudy wrote > > A review I read today about Instinct eluded to the possibility of their > being a sequel to The Silence of the Lambs. Does anybody have any details > about this? I do know that it would be a third installment, since TSOTL was > a sequel of sorts to Manhunter. The review said that the book by Thomas > Harris is coming out next week and that the movie will "soon follow." If > anybody knows anything, please let me know. > All true and well founded, I believe both Sir Anthony and Jodie are being courted for it ( if not already signed) and they are just waiting on the book to be completed ( the last I read anyway) Garrett [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:40:26 -0700 From: "Jason Cormier" Subject: Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal Also consider Aliens, Back to the Future 2 and 3 (hey I liked them!), Clear and Present Danger and James Bond flicks! >Patterns are not always full-proof: > >Godfather 2 >Star Wars 2 (or is that 5?) >Indiana Jones 2 >The recently mentioned Silence of the Lambs > >I felt these were all good, if not better than their predecessors. > >That's all I can think of for now, but I'm sure there are others. > >James > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] >Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:57 PM >To: movies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies > > >Speed 2 ... Species 2 ... Highlander 2 ... Caddyshack 2 ... >am I sensing a pattern here? > >PS1: I can't imagine that "American Pie" is any worse than "Idle Hands," >just to cite a current example of dumb-ass teenage movies. > >PS2: "Dumb and Dumber" is essentially a live-action version of "Beavis & >Butthead Do America." It works much better as a cartoon! > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:35:56 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] not all sequels are created equal Exactly, plus Star Trek II - -----Original Message----- From: Jason Cormier [mailto:movieman@netcom.ca] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 7:40 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal Also consider Aliens, Back to the Future 2 and 3 (hey I liked them!), Clear and Present Danger and James Bond flicks! >Patterns are not always full-proof: > >Godfather 2 >Star Wars 2 (or is that 5?) >Indiana Jones 2 >The recently mentioned Silence of the Lambs > >I felt these were all good, if not better than their predecessors. > >That's all I can think of for now, but I'm sure there are others. > >James > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] >Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:57 PM >To: movies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies > > >Speed 2 ... Species 2 ... Highlander 2 ... Caddyshack 2 ... >am I sensing a pattern here? > >PS1: I can't imagine that "American Pie" is any worse than "Idle Hands," >just to cite a current example of dumb-ass teenage movies. > >PS2: "Dumb and Dumber" is essentially a live-action version of "Beavis & >Butthead Do America." It works much better as a cartoon! > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:15:44 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] not all sequels are created equal The Bond movies shouldn't really count as sequels, don't you think? > -----Original Message----- > From: jkrudy [SMTP:jkrudy@micron.com] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 3:36 PM > To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: [MV] not all sequels are created equal > Importance: Low > > Exactly, plus Star Trek II > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Cormier [mailto:movieman@netcom.ca] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 7:40 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal > > Also consider Aliens, Back to the Future 2 and 3 (hey I liked them!), > Clear > and Present Danger and James Bond flicks! > > > >Patterns are not always full-proof: > > > >Godfather 2 > >Star Wars 2 (or is that 5?) > >Indiana Jones 2 > >The recently mentioned Silence of the Lambs > > > >I felt these were all good, if not better than their predecessors. > > > >That's all I can think of for now, but I'm sure there are others. > > > >James > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] > >Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:57 PM > >To: movies@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies > > > > > >Speed 2 ... Species 2 ... Highlander 2 ... Caddyshack 2 ... > >am I sensing a pattern here? > > > >PS1: I can't imagine that "American Pie" is any worse than "Idle Hands," > >just to cite a current example of dumb-ass teenage movies. > > > >PS2: "Dumb and Dumber" is essentially a live-action version of "Beavis & > >Butthead Do America." It works much better as a cartoon! > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:20:53 -0700 From: "Bruce Bridges" Subject: Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal -Reply One of my favorite sequels: Bride of Frankenstein. =20 [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:47:03 -0500 From: "Irish Boy" Subject: RE: [MV] re: A very bad movie So have you? ... or are you just an amateur with a big mouth? Rï(c)hä(r)d J. Ðöÿlë rdoyle29@msn.com ICQ: 27479510 "One may have a blazing hearth in one's soul and yet no one ever comes to sit by it. Passersby see only a wisp of smoke rising from the chimney and continue on their way." - Vincent Van Gogh - -----Original Message----- From: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-movies@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gary Heidenreich Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:26 PM To: Movies Mailing List Subject: Re: [MV] re: A very bad movie > On the other hand, the attention the boycott creates more > often than not encourages the general public to go see what the fuss is > about. That's an excellent point. In my mad fervor to denounce this movie, I didn't consider that it might spark interest. I'll just say this and then let the topic go: I hated this movie. In my opinion it is not worth seeing (luckily I didn't have to pay), and it is a generalized mockery of both filmmaking and my teenage generation. We SHOULD instead focus on good movies, but often it's easier to rant about the one flat tire than rave about the three good tires. But, to defend the value of discussing terrible movies, I offer a paraphrased quote from the master himself, Stanley Kubrick: "I didn't know a goddamned thing about making movies, but I knew I could make one better than that." Peter Heidenreich [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:18:43 PDT From: Danielle Conkle Subject: [MV] sequels I liked Terminator 2 better than the first... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:40:26 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: Re: [MV] sequels At 09.18 PM 04/06/99 PDT, you wrote: >I liked Terminator 2 better than the first... Hmmm, tough call. I don't necessarily think that Terminator has aged very well, but at the time, I thought it was great and a parable for our time. Also, we can look back at the time when Ah-nold was not a hugh intergalactic $20 million star, and where he actually played a bad guy. However, T2 impressed me. When I heard the concept (of Ah-nold now being the good guy), I was worried. But I think that this is one movie that managed to live up to the hype. By waiting so long to make the sequel, Ah-nold established himself, FX caught up to where they needed to be to work in this story, and it seemed to not be forced, which very few sequels can claim. And the principles (esp Linda Hamilton) were able to play the role "naturally". In sequels, either the action takes place the next day (and a few years have passed in real life), or decades hence (and only a few years have passed in real life). Here, they tried to keep both movies in "real time", and I think the films benefitted from that. Having said that, I have to admit that Hamilton was scary in this movie, being so driven:-) And for some reason, I was reminded of the film Strange Days. To totally change the subject, do you think this movie will take on new and deeper meaning as we get closer to New Year's Eve?? Perhaps this work deserves a second look in the upcoming months. And if you are planning a millennial film fest, besides this movie and 2001 (the obvious), might I suggest The Trigger Effect?? This is the story of what happens when our little world is turned upside down and we have to function without news and electric. Both this movie and Strange Days were made before we came to be so dependent on this Internet. Might be fun to redo these films with the changes our society has seen just in the last few years. Anyone have any other suggestions for an end of the year/decade/century/millennium film fest?? Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty email: bcassidy@usaor.net gowanna@australiamail.com http://www.webz.com/gowanna 419 Butler Street PO Box 95184 Pittsburgh, PA 15223-0184 (412) 781-6140 (412) 781-6380 1-888-45-GOWANNA -- TOLL FREE (1-888-454-6926) ____________________________________________ "Mulder, if you had to do without a cell phone for two minutes, you'd lapse into catatonic schizophrenia" - --Dana Scully ______________________________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 16:29:08 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] The Silence of the Lambs > All true and well founded, I believe both Sir Anthony and Jodie are being > courted for it ( if not already signed) and they are just waiting on the > book to be completed ( the last I read anyway) > Garrett Sir Tony is in town for MI2 and staying at my girlfriend's parents' guesthouse. He told her last week "the kind of money they want to throw at Hannibal, I can't see myself saying no." I had always figured he'd be a bit of a jerk, but she says he's a really agreeable fellow. I'd be agreeable too if I was getting paid 7m for five days filming. ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 99 03:12:27 -0700 From: "David F. Nolan" Subject: [MV] Re: millennial film fest >Anyone have any other suggestions for an end of the >year/decade/century/millennium film fest?? THINGS TO COME THE TIME MACHINE BACK TO THE FUTURE (I, II & III) ROLLERBALL [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:11:15 +0000 (GMT) From: magicpatrick@youpy.fr Subject: [MV] Singapour Sling A long time ago, I have seen a movie where the hero attracts the heroine by offering her many glasses of a cocktail called "Singapour Sling". Please help me, I don't remember the title. Thanks, Patrick Mon email gratuit, c'est Youpy. Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 10:53:56 +1000 From: Lillian Lepinath Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Hey Chris - how about HIGHLANDER 3? Set before the second, it really kills the uh... plot (?) of the first.... but hey, I'm a sucker for guys with swords - I mean, I'll gladly sit down and watch a Lorenzo Lamas movie.... I guess we've all like something of questionable taste. TeckerDaze. cHriS wrote: > > Oh yeah? Try going lower than...HIGHLANDER 2!!!! > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] - -- __\/__ . / ^ _ \ . |\| (o)(o) |/| #----------------.OOOo--oo--oOOO.------------# # # # Having abandoned my search for truth, # # I am now looking for a good fantasy! # # # #_________________________Oooo.______________# .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / TeckerDaze \ ( (_/ q9303210@topaz.cqu.edu.au \_) [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:31:42 CDT From: Wade S. Subject: Re: [MV] not all sequels are created equal I surely thought Hunt for Red October was much better than Clear and Present Danger. Sue, Harrison kicks ass as Jack Ryan, but the first movie was very very good, a much better, almost prime example of what a political - action thriller should be... Wade >Also consider Aliens, Back to the Future 2 and 3 (hey I liked them!), Clear >and Present Danger and James Bond flicks! > > > >Patterns are not always full-proof: > > > >Godfather 2 > >Star Wars 2 (or is that 5?) > >Indiana Jones 2 > >The recently mentioned Silence of the Lambs > > > >I felt these were all good, if not better than their predecessors. > > > >That's all I can think of for now, but I'm sure there are others. > > > >James > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David F. Nolan [mailto:DFN@alum.mit.edu] > >Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:57 PM > >To: movies@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies > > > > > >Speed 2 ... Species 2 ... Highlander 2 ... Caddyshack 2 ... > >am I sensing a pattern here? > > > >PS1: I can't imagine that "American Pie" is any worse than "Idle Hands," > >just to cite a current example of dumb-ass teenage movies. > > > >PS2: "Dumb and Dumber" is essentially a live-action version of "Beavis & > >Butthead Do America." It works much better as a cartoon! > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:41:06 CDT From: Wade S. Subject: Re: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies Ah, and that raises the question..... "Quien' es mas macho, Lorenzo Lamas o Ricardo Montalban?" Wade > >Hey Chris - how about HIGHLANDER 3? Set before the second, it really >kills the uh... plot (?) of the first.... but hey, I'm a sucker for guys >with swords - I mean, I'll gladly sit down and watch a Lorenzo Lamas >movie.... I guess we've all like something of questionable taste. > >TeckerDaze. > > >cHriS wrote: > > > > Oh yeah? Try going lower than...HIGHLANDER 2!!!! > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >-- > __\/__ > . / ^ _ \ . > |\| (o)(o) |/| > #----------------.OOOo--oo--oOOO.------------# > # # > # Having abandoned my search for truth, # > # I am now looking for a good fantasy! # > # # > #_________________________Oooo.______________# > .oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / TeckerDaze > \ ( (_/ q9303210@topaz.cqu.edu.au > \_) > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:52:29 -0600 From: "The Reporter" Subject: [MV] Movie News - 05/30/99 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Light saber-wielding Jedi Knights and Julia Roberts' romance with Hugh Grant fended off Anthony Hopkins as a crazed ape-man at the weekend box office, industry estimates showed Sunday. "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace" held on to the No. 1 spot, earning $32.2 million over the weekend to top the $250 million mark. The romantic comedy "Notting Hill," starring Roberts and Grant, continued to fare well in its second week, taking in $15 million over the weekend for a total of $49.4 million. The only new film opening in wide release was "Instinct," starring Cuba Gooding Jr. and Hopkins as a murderous scientist living among jungle-dwelling apes. It earned only $10.2 million for third place. "The Mummy," "Entrapment" and "The Matrix" continued to fare well, claiming fourth, fifth and sixth place, respectively. -=> * <=- SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) - The offbeat comedy "There's Something About Mary" topped winners at the MTV Movie Awards with three trophies: best movie, best actress for Cameron Diaz and best villain for Matt Dillon. Dillon tied for best villain with Stephen Dorff of "Blade." Among the other winners chosen through a nationwide poll of the cable channel's viewers: Best Male Performance: Jim Carrey, "The Truman Show." Breakthrough Performance-Male: James Van Der Beek, "Varsity Blues." Breakthrough Performance-Female: Katie Holmes, "Disturbing Behavior." Best Song from a Movie: Aerosmith, "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing," from "Armageddon." Best Comedic Performance: Adam Sandler, "The Waterboy." The awards were given Saturday night in a show taped for broadcast Thursday. -=> * <=- SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) - Jack Valenti, the Washington lobbyist for the top Hollywood studios, says filmmakers should do more to eliminate gratuitous violence from their pictures. "They should look at their creative work and say, ?Is this the best that I can do? Is there something here that is gratuitous as I define it?'" Valenti said Friday during a gathering of screenwriters called to debate entertainment violence. Valenti, who has taken much heat from Congress on the issue, said he'll fight for the writers' First Amendment rights. But he said people in the movie business need to take personal responsibility and cut needless violence. The event comes as lawmakers go on the attack against movies, TV, music and video games following the school massacre in Littleton, Colo. -=> * <=- NEW YORK (AP) - John Travolta's comeback is old news. Now he's so big in Hollywood he can really throw his weight around. "I can get things done that a studio might not normally do," Travolta says in Sunday's Daily News. "I told my manager, 'If we can't do the things now that we want to do, what good is the power? It's a waste, basically. Let's test it and try to get the things done that we believe in.'" One result of that effort is "Battleship Earth," a movie version of L. Ron Hubbard's science fiction novel. Shooting begins soon. Hubbard is the founder of Scientology, which Travolta has followed for nearly a quarter-century. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:32:53 -0500 From: "Joshua Crow" Subject: RE: [MV] re: A very bad movie Considering the student film awards ceremony at UW Madison recently, in which I witnessed Mr. Heidenreich walk away with second place honors for = one of his films, I think I can answer your question with a qualified "yes he has". Josh Crow |:| So have you? ... or are you just an amateur with a big mouth? |:| |:| R=EF(c)h=E4(r)d J. =D0=F6=FFl=EB |:| rdoyle29@msn.com |:| ICQ: 27479510 |:| |:| "One may have a blazing hearth in one's soul and yet no |:| one ever comes to |:| sit by it. Passersby see only a wisp of smoke rising |:| from the chimney and |:| continue on their way." - Vincent Van Gogh |:| |:| -----Original Message----- |:| From: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com |:| [mailto:owner-movies@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of |:| Gary Heidenreich |:| |:| Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:26 PM |:| To: Movies Mailing List |:| Subject: Re: [MV] re: A very bad movie |:| |:| > On the other hand, the attention the boycott creates more |:| > often than not encourages the general |:| public to go see what |:| the fuss is |:| > about. |:| |:| That's an excellent point. In my mad fervor |:| to denounce this |:| movie, I |:| didn't consider that it might spark |:| interest. I'll just say this |:| and |:| then let the topic go: I hated this movie. |:| In my opinion it is |:| not |:| worth seeing (luckily I didn't have to |:| pay), and it is a |:| generalized |:| mockery of both filmmaking and my teenage |:| generation. We SHOULD |:| instead |:| focus on good movies, but often it's easier |:| to rant about the |:| one flat |:| tire than rave about the three good tires. |:| But, to defend the |:| value of |:| discussing terrible movies, I offer a |:| paraphrased quote from the |:| master |:| himself, Stanley Kubrick: "I didn't know a |:| goddamned thing about |:| making |:| movies, but I knew I could make one better |:| than that." |:| |:| Peter Heidenreich |:| |:| |:| |:| |:| |:| [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message |:| "unsubscribe ] |:| [ movies" (without the quotes) to |:| majordomo@xmission.com ] |:| [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:14:12 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Singapour Sling maybe Guys and Dolls? > -----Original Message----- > From: magicpatrick@youpy.fr [SMTP:magicpatrick@youpy.fr] > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 1999 12:11 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] Singapour Sling > > A long time ago, I have seen a movie where the hero attracts the heroine > by offering her many glasses of a cocktail called "Singapour Sling". > Please help me, I don't remember the title. > Thanks, > Patrick > > Mon email gratuit, c'est Youpy. > Pour en savoir plus : http://www.youpy.fr > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 15:43:46 -0700 From: "David F. Nolan" Subject: RE: [MV] Singapour Sling >> A long time ago, I have seen a movie where the hero attracts the heroine >> by offering her many glasses of a cocktail called "Singapour Sling". >> Please help me, I don't remember the title. >> Thanks, >> Patrick I'd guess "Cocktail" (1988) a best-forgotten time-waster starring Tom Cruise and Elisabeth Shue. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:44:23 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Singapour Sling no no, Tom Cruise never had to get Elisabeth drunk... > -----Original Message----- > From: David F. Nolan [SMTP:DFN@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 3:44 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [MV] Singapour Sling > > >> A long time ago, I have seen a movie where the hero attracts the > heroine > >> by offering her many glasses of a cocktail called "Singapour Sling". > >> Please help me, I don't remember the title. > >> Thanks, > >> Patrick > > I'd guess "Cocktail" (1988) a best-forgotten time-waster starring Tom > Cruise and Elisabeth Shue. > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:23:18 -0400 From: Gene Ehrich Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies The absolute, number one, horrible, boring, bad movie in years = Matrix It has no competition. gene@ehrich http://www.voicenet.com/~generic Computer & Video Game Garage Sale Gene Ehrich PO Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:21:39 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies gee whiz! It couldn't have been THAT bad for you! > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Ehrich [SMTP:gene@ehrich.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:23 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies > > The absolute, number one, horrible, boring, bad movie in years = Matrix > > It has no competition. > > > > > > gene@ehrich > http://www.voicenet.com/~generic > Computer & Video Game Garage Sale > > Gene Ehrich > PO Box 209 > Marlton NJ > 08053-0209 > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:25:27 -0600 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies did you cat just die or something? What I mean is, there must have been some outside stimulus that ruined this movie for you. Even at the most objective glance, The Matrix was a good movie. James - -----Original Message----- From: Gene Ehrich [mailto:gene@ehrich.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 7:23 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies The absolute, number one, horrible, boring, bad movie in years = Matrix It has no competition. gene@ehrich http://www.voicenet.com/~generic Computer & Video Game Garage Sale Gene Ehrich PO Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209 [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 19:15:41 -0700 From: "David F. Nolan" Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies James K. Rudy wrote: >did your cat just die or something? What I mean is, there must have been >some outside stimulus that ruined this movie for you. Even at the most >objective glance, The Matrix was a good movie. Yeah, really. Not a GREAT movie, but pretty good! And speaking of BAD movies, did anyone on this list ever see an atrocity called THE PICKLE that came out a few years back. Talk about bad!!!! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:33:22 PDT From: Danielle Conkle Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies-matrix >The absolute, number one, horrible, boring, bad movie in years = Matrix > >It has no competition. > Sorry! I think a lot of people liked it..including me! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:39:45 -0400 From: Mel Eperthener Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies At 07.15 PM 07/06/99 -0700, David F. Nolan wrote: >And speaking of BAD movies, did anyone on this list ever see an atrocity >called THE PICKLE that came out a few years back. Talk about bad!!!! Never saw it, but IIRC, it was SUPPOSED to be a bad movie. It was a take off of the 50s sci-fi schlock, with flying pie plates and visible wires and everything. Regards, - --Mel - --Mel Eperthener president, Gowanna Multi-media Pty Please support the endeavour of a friend and fellow Australian. Political Corrections by Michael Jaymes Cassidy http://www.angelfire.com/ma/politicalmusings ____________________________________________ If people are worried about the whole Y2K thing, just wait until they try to get technical support the day "Phantom Menace" opens. __________________________ [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:35:12 -0500 From: torq@mo.net Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies my piece on the really bad movie thread: "face/off". when i saw the previews for this movie, i thought it looked like an intriguing idea for a movie: a cop, going after a bad guy, takes on the face of the bad guy to get info about the bad guy. at the time, i didnt know it was a john woo movie. so i went to see it a few days after it came out. right off the bat, i was horrified. in my opinion, this is perhaps the most pretentious, simple-minded, terribly-constructed films ever made (especially of larger-budget movies). within just minutes of the beginning of the movie, i was literally predicting lines - the script is that simple and pathetic. the opening sequence of the film is absolutely disgusting, it is so terribly trite and sappy: travolta's kid gets shot by cage, and travolta weepily goes over to help his kid. not only is the dialogue insanely childish, the action scenes throughout the film are completely uninteresting and unrealistic: i do sometimes enjoy movies where "suspension of belief" is necessary (case in point: through all my life, i've never really thought much of the star wars movies, but i really like "the phantom menace"), but "face/off" takes the requirements of suspension of belief to unprecedented and (in my opinion) obnoxious proportions. for suspension of belief films to work, they have to sufficiently create their own universe, and make the elements of the film fit to that universe. "face/off", however, tries to fit a completely unrealistic idea into the world as it really is, and tries to make normal-seeming people do unbelieveable things. while they might have TRIED to make their own universe in "face/off", or atleast had in mind that they were making one, i didnt feel like they had any success at all giving the impression that the story was meant to take place in a fantasy-type world. this movie sealed the deal for me as far as nicolas cage is concerned: he's the WORST popular actor, i think. ever since he decided to leave comedic movies (and i'll say this: i thought he was very good in "raising arizona", which is an awfully funny movie), he's gone to hell. although i cant demonstrate it here, when describing why i dislike cage so much nowadays, i imitate what i call his "drama face": if you've seen any of his recent popular films ("leaving las vegas", "snake eyes", "face/off", "8mm", "con-air"), he does a pathetic little sappy face atleast once (and in movies like "face/off", he does it over and over and over again, when he's acting as travolta's character and is upset about his predicament). if i'd have known face/off was a john woo movie before i went to see it, i probably wouldn't have seen it. while "hard boiled" is slightly interesting, the ridiculous action of it gets irritating after a while. "broken arrow" was ridiculous, too, so i would've stayed away from "face/off" like the plague had i known. unfortunately, over the years of my hating "face/off", i've come across relateively few others who feel the same as i do. most intelligent people that i've talked to have just viewed it as another mediocre hollywood action film. the world's morons (most everyone) thought it was pure brilliance, of course - these are the people that made "armageddon" and "titanic" two of the biggest money-making films of all-time. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 22:09:59 -0700 From: "David F. Nolan" Subject: RE: [MV] Re: Realy, really, really bad movies >my piece on the really bad movie thread: "face/off". One of the really stupid things in "face/off" is that after the surgeon switches their faces, he cautions one of them to be really careful for a while -- that their transplanted face will fall apart if it isn't treated gently. So what happens? Almost immediately there's a big prison fight, and our hero (villain?) gets smacked around like crazy. But does he have any problems with his face? Noooooooo. But, still and all, there are worse movies... many of which have already been mentioned here. (Somebody PLEASE explain to me how "Baby Geniuses" got produced. What WERE they thinking!?!?) [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #196 **************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]