From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #206 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Monday, June 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 206 Re: [MV] STARSHIP TROOPERS [MV] Movie News - 06/25/99 [MV] Sci-Fi Movie News - 06/25/99 [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will [MV] No subject was specified. Re: [MV] Make of it what you will [MV] Winslow Boy review Re: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Winslow Boy review Re: [MV] Winslow Boy review [MV] MovieJuice! - BIG DADDY - Schmaltz Liquor [MV] Gods and Monsters RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: [MV] Make of it what you will Re: [MV] Make of it what you will Re: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will Re: [MV] Make of it what you will [MV] Favorite/best actor/actress Re: [MV] Make of it what you will [MV] Favorite Actor/Best Actor, Favorite Actress/ Best Actress Re: [MV] Make of it what you will RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will Re: [MV] Make of it what you will [Fwd: [MV] Make of it what you will] RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:53:21 +1000 From: Lillian Lepinath Subject: Re: [MV] STARSHIP TROOPERS brucebri@ix.netcom.com wrote: > From what I heard about the book, it seems Verhoeven > turned it on its head. > I haven't read the book either, but at the time I saw the movie, I was living with 2 guys who had.... my (now ex-) fiance loved the book - he had read it so many times that he could almost quote it, however, he hated the movie. He said that there were many things that had been changed, (I can't list them, so take his word on that) and it basically ruined the whole storyline/plot. Personally, I just saw it because of the gore factor, and the sfx.... didn't go in looking for anything spectacular, and didn't leave too disappointed. I guess sometimes I'm just easily pleased. Teck. - -- __\/__ . / ^ _ \ . |\| (o)(o) |/| #----------------.OOOo--oo--oOOO.------------# # # # It may be called puppy love, # # but it's real to the puppy. # # # #_________________________Oooo.______________# .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / TeckerDaze \ ( (_/ q9303210@topaz.cqu.edu.au \_) [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:21:28 -0600 From: "The Reporter" Subject: [MV] Movie News - 06/25/99 LONDON (AP) - Before this week, hardly anyone knew much more about Stanley Kubrick's mysterious last film, "Eyes Wide Shut," than the fact that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman get really naked in it. Sure, rumors abounded about the film, completed just before the legendary filmmaker's death. But Warner Bros. has not yet screened it for critics and Kubrick's rigorous insistence on secrecy meant few people knew what they were talking about. Enter London film critic Alexander Walker, a Kubrick biographer who, as a family friend, was allowed to view the movie early. Walker then published a review, including an in-depth plot summary, in Tuesday's Evening Standard newspaper. And now, thanks to the Internet, "Eyes Wide Shut" has segued from the best-kept to the worst-kept secret in Hollywood. The Evening Standard's Web site saw such a huge surge in traffic Wednesday that the paper said some high-tech rejiggering had to be done to make sure the glut of people trying to read the review didn't lock up the site. Predictably, the people at Warner Bros. are upset by Walker's actions - as is Kubrick's family, according to a studio spokeswoman. "He was a family friend, they showed it to him and he betrayed their trust," spokeswoman Nancy Kirkpatrick said. "The family is very hurt and angry. It certainly wasn't the plan, and we are not happy." Kirkpatrick said the film was not to be screened for critics until July 10, six days before its opening in the United States. "Eyes Wide Shut," Kubrick's 13th film, was completed a week before the legendary director died in March at age 70. -=> * <=- (Launch) - Just days after the entertainment industry was set abuzz with news that Francis Ford Coppola was looking to revisit his lauded Godfather series, with a fourth installment that had Andy Garcia and Leonardo DiCaprio attached to star, reality has set in. The New York Post reported Thursday that Coppola has put the kibosh on G4. "There's very little substance to the story," a spokesperson for Coppola said. "He's gratified with how popular the whole Godfather franchise is, but unfortunately at this time Mr. Coppola is not working on, and has no plans to film, a part four." The Godfather saga is Oscar winner Coppola's most famous cinematic effort to date. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:03:46 -0600 From: "The Reporter" Subject: [MV] Sci-Fi Movie News - 06/25/99 Star Wars: Episode I took just 28 days to accumulate $300 million in ticket sales, setting another new box-office record. That eclipsed the previous high-water mark reached by the 1997 film Titanic, which steamed by the $300 million buoy in what now seems like a ponderous 44 days. According to The Hollywood Reporter, since passing $100 million in domestic ticket sales, Episode I has reached each subsequent $50 million plateau faster than any movie in history. If it keeps up this pace, Episode I will soon join an elite group of films--Titanic, E.T. and Jurassic Park--that have grossed more than $350 million during their first run in theaters. -=> * <=- Although George Lucas has barely begun work on the script for Star Wars: Episode II and casting for the film won't get underway until the end of the year, word on the street has it that Leonardo DiCaprio is being wooed for the role of the grown-up Anakin Skywalker. While this particular rumor has surfaced before, the Coming Attractions Web site recently received what's purported to be a production sketch of Leo as Anakin, lending more credence to idea. The source claims the sketch was photocopied by a disgruntled LucasFilm employee who was let go from the company after Episode I was completed, but several knowledgeable Attractions readers have labeled the drawing a fake. Since the informant says LucasFilm will be making an announcement about DiCaprio within the next two weeks, this is one mystery that shouldn't go unsolved for long. -=> * <=- Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me took in $54.7 million during its opening weekend, enough to knock Star Wars: Episode I out of the top box-office spot. Episode I had been the No. 1 film in theaters since it opened on May 19, but its $25.4 million haul during the June 11 weekend was only good enough for second place. Austin Powers set three new records on its way to becoming king of the box-office hill, including the biggest opening ever for a June film and the biggest opening ever for a comedy film. The third record was a bit more unusual: The Spy Who Shagged Me is the first sequel ever to earn more during its opening weekend than its predecessor earned over its entire theatrical run. The first Austin Powers movie, International Man of Mystery, finished its U.S. domestic release with $53.9 million. -=> * <=- Blade screenwriter David Goyer recently completed the script for Blade 2 and handed it in to New Line Cinemas. According to the Marvel Web site, Goyer said the studio expects to choose a director for the picture by the end of the month. "In all likelihood, the film will probably shoot in October or January (2000) with pre-production starting in the next few months," Goyer told Marvel. -=> * <=- Actress Mary Stuart Masterson will make her directorial debut with Lifeboat on a Burning Sea, a film adaptation of Bruce Holland Rogers' SF short story of the same name. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the film is part of Showtime's ongoing series Directed By, which gives actors the chance to sit in the director's chair for the first time. Masterson will also write the screen adaptation of the story, which is about two scientists who place a human personality into a computer. The film is part of a Directed By SF trilogy that will also feature actresses Anne Heche and Helen Mirren behind the camera. -=> * <=- Shooting on Paul Verhoeven's upcoming SF film The Hollow Man may have to be delayed after star Elisabeth Shue injured herself while working out. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Shue tore her Achilles tendon during a session at the gym and will be sidelined indefinitely because of the injury. There's an outside chance Shue might have to be replaced by another actress if her recovery goes slowly, although Columbia Pictures says any such decision would be premature at this point. For now Verhoeven is trying to shoot around Shue's character, and he may delay production if she can't return to the set in the next few weeks. In The Hollow Man, Shue plays a scientist who helps develop an invisibility serum. When a fellow scientist takes the serum and becomes invisible, Shue and her colleagues must find a way to return him to normal. -=> * <=- Connie Nielsen (Soldier) has replaced Monica Potter as the female lead in the Brian DePalma SF movie Mission to Mars. The film stars Gary Sinise, Tim Robbins, Don Cheadle and Jerry O'Connell. -=> * <=- DIC Entertainment and RAI Television plan to produce an animated feature film based on the classic hit song "Monster Mash" by Bobby "Boris" Pickett, which was first released in 1962. -=> * <=- Dougray Scott (Deep Impact) will play the role of Wolverine in the upcoming X-Men film, according to numerous sources. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:27:47 -0600 From: "The Reporter" Subject: [MV] Make of it what you will http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/anakinconceptsw2.jpg Claimed to be real, not a fan drawing [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:10:07 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will Please! Someone else out there must feel as I do - Leonardo is not right for Anakin! > -----Original Message----- > From: The Reporter [SMTP:gregorys@xmission.com] > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:28 AM > To: Movies Mailing List > Subject: [MV] Make of it what you will > > http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/anakinconceptsw2.jpg > > Claimed to be real, not a fan drawing > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:59:38 -0600 From: "M.P.G." Subject: [MV] No subject was specified. unsubscribe movies [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:03:54 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will In a message dated 6/25/99 2:13:05 PM Central Daylight Time, lromero@saonet.ucla.edu writes: > Please! Someone else out there must feel as I do - Leonardo is not right > for Anakin! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The Reporter [SMTP:gregorys@xmission.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:28 AM > > To: Movies Mailing List > > Subject: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > > http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/anakinconceptsw2.jpg > > > > Claimed to be real, not a fan drawing I was actually thinking how cool it would be to have dicaprio play him.... ethan hawke wouuld be cool too. When you relaly think about it, though, there's a serious lack of talent in that age range for males, and leo is one of the few good ones around. I'd vote for him to star in it any day. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:43:41 -0700 From: "Jason Cormier" Subject: [MV] Winslow Boy review After David Mamet gave us such films as House of Games, Oleanna, Glengary Glen Ross and The Spanish Prisoner (not to mention the numerous other films that he wrote - Untouchables, Wag the Dog etc...) I couldn't wait to see his new film The Winslow Boy. This was the first time that Mamet has directed a film that didn't originate from his head - it's based on a play that he didn't write - though he wrote the screenplay for the movie. It's a period piece and has been getting rave reviews all around...except from me. This is not to say that I hated it - but I am certainly unenthused about it. It was more an interesting look at the early 20th century and it's differences and similarities to today's society - especially the similarities to the media and how it can take over an event - no matter how insignificant it may seem. I wasn't bored though and I did enjoy the two Male leads (Nigel and some other guy I can't recall), but I wasn't too fond of Mrs. Mamet - Rebecca Pidgeon - and her distant approach to her character. In Spanish Prisoner I thought it was a quirky character trait - but now I see that it is the only way she knows how to act...but I'm quibling - an interesting movie for period buffs only. 70%. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:23:01 -0500 From: "Tonya =)" Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: I was actually thinking how cool it would be to have dicaprio play him.... ethan hawke wouuld be cool too. When you relaly think about it, though, there's a serious lack of talent in that age range for males, and leo is one of the few good ones around. I'd vote for him to star in it any day. ____________________ I agree with you completely. ____________________ Tonya [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:42:01 -0500 From: "Irish Boy" Subject: RE: [MV] Winslow Boy review Just to be precise, Mamet did not direct "Glengarry Glen Ross". Rï(c)hä(r)d J. Ðöÿlë rdoyle29@msn.com ICQ: 27479510 "It is the uncensored sense of humor...which is the ultimate therapy for man in society." - Evan Esar - -----Original Message----- From: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-movies@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jason Cormier Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:44 AM To: Undisclosed.Recipients@tor-smtp2.netcom.ca Subject: [MV] Winslow Boy review After David Mamet gave us such films as House of Games, Oleanna, Glengary Glen Ross and The Spanish Prisoner (not to mention the numerous other films that he wrote - Untouchables, Wag the Dog etc...) I couldn't wait to see his new film The Winslow Boy. This was the first time that Mamet has directed a film that didn't originate from his head - it's based on a play that he didn't write - though he wrote the screenplay for the movie. It's a period piece and has been getting rave reviews all around...except from me. This is not to say that I hated it - but I am certainly unenthused about it. It was more an interesting look at the early 20th century and it's differences and similarities to today's society - especially the similarities to the media and how it can take over an event - no matter how insignificant it may seem. I wasn't bored though and I did enjoy the two Male leads (Nigel and some other guy I can't recall), but I wasn't too fond of Mrs. Mamet - Rebecca Pidgeon - and her distant approach to her character. In Spanish Prisoner I thought it was a quirky character trait - but now I see that it is the only way she knows how to act...but I'm quibling - an interesting movie for period buffs only. 70%. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:24:37 -0700 From: "Jason Cormier" Subject: Re: [MV] Winslow Boy review Thanks precise boy! He did write it though and it was based on his pulit= zer prize winning play. It is still considered a Mamet film as opposed to a James Foley movie...at least in my books! Either way - great film!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Irish Boy To: movies@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [MV] Winslow Boy review >Just to be precise, Mamet did not direct "Glengarry Glen Ross". > >R=EF(c)h=E4(r)d J. =D0=F6=FFl=EB >rdoyle29@msn.com >ICQ: 27479510 > >"It is the uncensored sense of humor...which is the ultimate therapy for man >in society." - Evan Esar > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-movies@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jason Cormier >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:44 AM >To: Undisclosed.Recipients@tor-smtp2.netcom.ca >Subject: [MV] Winslow Boy review > >After David Mamet gave us such films as House of Games, Oleanna, Glengar= y >Glen Ross and The Spanish Prisoner (not to mention the numerous other fi= lms >that he wrote - Untouchables, Wag the Dog etc...) I couldn't wait to see his >new film The Winslow Boy. This was the first time that Mamet has direct= ed a >film that didn't originate from his head - it's based on a play that he >didn't write - though he wrote the screenplay for the movie. It's a per= iod >piece and has been getting rave reviews all around...except from me. Th= is >is not to say that I hated it - but I am certainly unenthused about it. = It >was more an interesting look at the early 20th century and it's differen= ces >and similarities to today's society - especially the similarities to the >media and how it can take over an event - no matter how insignificant it may >seem. I wasn't bored though and I did enjoy the two Male leads (Nigel a= nd >some other guy I can't recall), but I wasn't too fond of Mrs. Mamet - >Rebecca Pidgeon - and her distant approach to her character. In Spanish >Prisoner I thought it was a quirky character trait - but now I see that = it >is the only way she knows how to act...but I'm quibling - an interesting >movie for period buffs only. 70%. > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: maillist@moviejuice.com Subject: [MV] MovieJuice! - BIG DADDY - Schmaltz Liquor BIG DADDY - SCHMALTZ LIQUOR by Mark Ramsey http://www.moviejuice.com/1999/bigdaddy.htm June 27, 1999 Big Daddy is the movie Stanley Kubrick would have made if he didn't work a lot slower than the Grim Reaper. Said Kubrick days before his death, "After watching Tom Cruise kiss corpses for two years, it's time to make a movie with a cute orphan and an SNL alum. I even have a title: Spartakids!" Was I the only one who thought Big Daddy was the sequel to Cat on a Hot Tin Roof? What were you thinking, Tennessee Williams? Here, I'm expecting a Burl Ives comeback vehicle, and instead I get Pee on a Hot Brick Wall! My mistake. To read some of the ultra-savage reviews this flick has been getting, I expected the audience would need a studio-sponsored hypnotist to open the show: "You are getting very sleepy...You will like this movie...You will keep your damn laser pointers in your pockets or we'll shove them up your ass." But instead I was spirited away by an anti-critic intervention as I approached the theater entrance. Interrogated for hours with a bright lamp over my head, the interventionists pounded away at me: "Ignore the critics! Their vitriol is entirely personal! If Adam Sandler had made Citizen Kane they would hate it for being in Black and White and featuring Endora from Bewitched." Maybe the cynical asshole critics are offended by the kid's declaration that "most critics are cynical assholes." Could be. Maybe they're envious of the kid's sunglasses which make you "disappear." And here I thought Hollywood used sunglasses to hide the lid-lift bruises. Adam Sandler leads as Happy Gilmore Madison Boucher. As usual, Adam's likable, undistinguished, and utterly relatable. Adam adopts an orphan kid so cute, he couldn't have inspired more girlie "awwww"s if ILM had digitally enhanced him with floppy ears, a tail, and a taste for Puppy Chow. Now there's nothing novel about big comics and little kids. The pairing of comic superstars and adorable rugrats goes all the way back to Charlie Chaplin, who alternated between working with kids and marrying them. Adam doesn't have the heart to send the kid to the pound, so he adopts him to impress his girlfriend, the babelicious Kristi Swanson who, I'm guessing, would be more impressed by a new agent and a better selection of roles right about now. Adam teaches the boy tricks, like how to sit, how to heel, and how to play loogie yo-yo. Everything that makes you a man, or at least a big fan of sports. Look for homeless man's homeless man, Steve Buscemi, in a cool cameo. Steve's costume/makeup folks must be fresh from watching VH-1's BeeGee's: Inside the Music, because Steve looks like the Gibb who couldn't master falsetto, Stayin' Alive on the street corner. Did somebody revive Creedence Clearwater, Steve? And then there's Joey Lauren Adams whose squeaky voice and sweetiepie demeanor make her odds-on favorite for the title: "Annette Funicello of the new Millennium." I'm still bracing for her to squeal: "Hey kids, what time is it? It's time to reunite with Chasing Amy director Kevin Smith and reignite my career!" Joey plays "Layla," and the more you know about Joey the more the name fits. Here, she's a smart, environmentally-conscious attorney and a huge Styx fan. Forget that the real Joey probably thinks Styx is a new Chinese restaurant in West Hollywood. Just go with the flow, people. Joey's sweet as Equal - that's 200 times sweeter than sugar, friends. And like sugar, she may cause dental decay, as your teeth grind vigorously at every dialogue line. I need a Joey Lauren Vacation! Meanwhile, there's great product placement here for Hooters, a restaurant notorious for its placement of product. Their slogan: Our breasts make your head turn, our wings make your lips burn! Personally, I love the Hooters Girls Calendar, where you can X-off how many days you're a pathetic, lifeless loser. Call me crazy, but this movie's funny and sweet. And between the quips is much truth about fathers and sons, in case you've ever had one or been one. Adam's spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. And when you hear the critics dis everyman Adam and praise obscuro German movies about sprinting punkers, I'll go with the pied piper of puerile, the incredible infantile-o, Mr. Clam-Happy Gilmore himself, thank you. This schmaltz liquor goes down good. Copyright 1999 Mark Ramsey. All rights reserved. NO PORTION MAY BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR. ******************** DON’T FORGET TO VISIT MOVIEJUICE.COM! Hey, kids, don't forget to visit the MovieJuice! Site at http://www.moviejuice.com. The pictures are half the fun (and sometimes more than half the laughs)! ******************** TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS LIST: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL! Just go to http://www.moviejuice.com and follow the directions at the top of the left frame. It's very easy. 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Kelly [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:31:19 +0800 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will I think the best thing Lucas could do (if he wants to stay true to the Star Wars saga) is to find a relatively unknown actor. I think it would be a real tragedy to cast Leo in this movie. I like Leo, he's great, but do we really want SW:E2 to be a Leo Decaprio movie instead of a Star Wars movie? I don't think so. James - -----Original Message----- From: Tonya =) [mailto:scoobygirl@bedford.heartland.net] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:23 PM To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: I was actually thinking how cool it would be to have dicaprio play him.... ethan hawke wouuld be cool too. When you relaly think about it, though, there's a serious lack of talent in that age range for males, and leo is one of the few good ones around. I'd vote for him to star in it any day. ____________________ I agree with you completely. ____________________ Tonya [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:26:27 +0800 From: jkrudy Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will Nice drawing, but I sure hope it's a fake. James - -----Original Message----- From: The Reporter [mailto:gregorys@xmission.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 11:28 AM To: Movies Mailing List Subject: [MV] Make of it what you will http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/anakinconceptsw2.jpg Claimed to be real, not a fan drawing [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:49:25 -0400 From: Enrique Bird Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will Friends, What is worse, the kid in The Phantom Menace looks older and more "mature" than Di Caprio! Enrique Bird > -----Original Message----- > From: jkrudy [SMTP:jkrudy@micron.com] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:31 AM > To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > Importance: Low > > I think the best thing Lucas could do (if he wants to stay true to the > Star > Wars saga) is to find a relatively unknown actor. I think it would be a > real tragedy to cast Leo in this movie. I like Leo, he's great, but do we > really want SW:E2 to be a Leo Decaprio movie instead of a Star Wars movie? > I don't think so. > > James > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tonya =) [mailto:scoobygirl@bedford.heartland.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:23 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > > SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: > I was actually thinking how cool it would be to have dicaprio play him.... > > ethan hawke wouuld be cool too. When you relaly think about it, though, > there's a serious lack of talent in that age range for males, and leo is > one > of the few good ones around. I'd vote for him to star in it any day. > ____________________ > > I agree with you completely. > ____________________ > > Tonya > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:45:05 -0700 From: "Romero, Leticia" Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will too true! Lloyd WAS cute, but I hope he learns to act as he matures! > -----Original Message----- > From: Enrique Bird [SMTP:ebird@gmgroup.com] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:49 AM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > > Friends, > > What is worse, the kid in The Phantom Menace looks older and more "mature" > than Di Caprio! > > Enrique Bird > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jkrudy [SMTP:jkrudy@micron.com] > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:31 AM > > To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' > > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > > Importance: Low > > > > I think the best thing Lucas could do (if he wants to stay true to the > > Star > > Wars saga) is to find a relatively unknown actor. I think it would be a > > real tragedy to cast Leo in this movie. I like Leo, he's great, but do > we > > really want SW:E2 to be a Leo Decaprio movie instead of a Star Wars > movie? > > I don't think so. > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tonya =) [mailto:scoobygirl@bedford.heartland.net] > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:23 PM > > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > > > > > > SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: > > I was actually thinking how cool it would be to have dicaprio play > him.... > > > > ethan hawke wouuld be cool too. When you relaly think about it, though, > > > there's a serious lack of talent in that age range for males, and leo is > > one > > of the few good ones around. I'd vote for him to star in it any day. > > ____________________ > > > > I agree with you completely. > > ____________________ > > > > Tonya > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:44:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi L On {64539} Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will I'd always thought Lucas will not hirer famous people for his Star Wars movie. The last 4 star wars movie didn't have anyone famous. Although some of them did become famous after the movie. - -Vi On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Romero, Leticia wrote: > Please! Someone else out there must feel as I do - Leonardo is not right > for Anakin! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:55:39 -0500 From: Wade Snider Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will YOINK. I hope you are joking... please... In the originals, alec guiness was famous, and harrison ford, not yet famous, was emerging as a hot new character actor in the early 70s (my point is he had some beginning to his career before SW)..there were also billy dee williams, and to some extent james earl jones (for obvious reason). In the prequel, you've got Liam Neeson, Ewan MacGregor, Natalie Portman... Please don't tell me you think none of these people were famous....I would even say that SW didn't rocket the stars of the orignal series to stardom.. Harrison Ford went to the top.. but he had some other choice roles in the early 80s.. Mark hamill and Carrie fisher both have had success in their fields, but they are not in the limelight and such superstars as ford.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Vi L On {64539} [SMTP:vlo@swl.msd.ray.com] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 11:44 AM > To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > I'd always thought Lucas will not hirer famous people for his Star Wars > movie. The last 4 star wars movie didn't have anyone famous. > Although some of them did become famous after the movie. > > -Vi > > > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Romero, Leticia wrote: > > > Please! Someone else out there must feel as I do - Leonardo is not > right > > for Anakin! > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:58:06 -0500 From: Wade Snider Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will I will add a little to what I said, as it doesn't sound quite right to me.. I should be careful referring to Mark hamill, as i am not sure of what he did in the mid-late 80s.... I know he was doing theater and some low budget b-sci--fi flicks for the most part of this decade, and he does cartoon voices and some comic book... So, he may be "mildly" successful as a stage actor in the past 9-10 years... Carrie fisher has herself become an often used script doctor as well as occasional novelist..... >Mark hamill and Carrie fisher both have had success in theirfields, but they are not in the limelight and such superstars as ford.. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:55:33 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will In a message dated 6/28/99 11:49:44 AM Central Daylight Time, vlo@swl.msd.ray.com writes: > I'd always thought Lucas will not hirer famous people for his Star Wars > movie. The last 4 star wars movie didn't have anyone famous. > Although some of them did become famous after the movie. Alec guiness?? Liam neeson, natalie portman, sam jackson, ewan mcgregor, jake lloyd, etc. were all famous when they made star wars movies. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:09:14 -0500 From: Wade Snider Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will > My thoughts exactly........... *nudge nudge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Romero, Leticia [SMTP:lromero@saonet.ucla.edu] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 1:01 PM > To: 'wsnider@bepcexch.brazoselectric.com' > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > > it's better when you puncture your own balloon. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wade Snider [SMTP:wsnider@bepcexch.brazoselectric.com] > > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:58 AM > > To: 'movies@lists.xmission.com' > > Subject: RE: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > > I will add a little to what I said, as it doesn't sound quite right to > > me.. > > > > I should be careful referring to Mark hamill, as i am not sure of what > he > > did in the mid-late 80s.... I know he was doing theater and some low > > budget > > b-sci--fi flicks for the most part of this decade, and he does cartoon > > voices and some comic book... So, he may be "mildly" successful as a > stage > > actor in the past 9-10 years... Carrie fisher has herself become an > often > > used script doctor as well as occasional novelist..... > > > > >Mark hamill and Carrie fisher both have had success in theirfields, > > but they are not in the limelight and such superstars as ford.. > > > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:10:52 -0800 From: gregorys@mail.xmission.com Subject: RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will >> Alec guiness?? Liam neeson, natalie portman, sam jackson, ewan mcgregor, Of those, Natalie Portman is hardly a household name. >> jake lloyd, etc. were all famous when they made star wars movies. Name one other thing you've seen Jake Lloyd in. - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:58:31 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will In a message dated 6/28/99 9:44:04 AM Central Daylight Time, jkrudy@micron.com writes: > I think the best thing Lucas could do (if he wants to stay true to the Star > Wars saga) is to find a relatively unknown actor. I think it would be a > real tragedy to cast Leo in this movie. I like Leo, he's great, but do we > really want SW:E2 to be a Leo Decaprio movie instead of a Star Wars movie? > I don't think so. That is a very good point, one I had not even considered. The thought of a bunch of brooding Leo fans drooling thru the movie is enough to change my mind about that idea. But then again, Celebrity had leo in it, and it wasn't a "leo movie." [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:01:22 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: [MV] Favorite/best actor/actress Favorite actor: Ewan McGregor Best Actor: Ian McKellan Favorite Actress: Christina Ricci Best actress: Wynnona Rider Any others?? Just a thought when I woke up this morning, figured I'd share [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:12:28 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: > > But then again, Celebrity had leo in it, and it wasn't > a "leo movie." I think after Man In The Iron Mask, the hordes of Leo-philes have found a new flavor of the month. They're all out queueing up for BoyZone autographs at the mall. Whether or not Leo finds his way into Star Wars (I'd be very surprised) he's long past peaked. It's a shame he became dribble fodder, he's actually a decent actor. ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:22:59 -0700 From: Jackie Martin Subject: [MV] Favorite Actor/Best Actor, Favorite Actress/ Best Actress Favorite Actor: Kevin Spacey Best Actor: Kevin Spacey Favorite Actress: Emma Thompson Best Actress: Judi Dench Just my take Jackie [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:12:39 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will In a message dated 6/28/99 1:11:50 PM Central Daylight Time, gregorys@mail.xmission.com writes: > >> Alec guiness?? Liam neeson, natalie portman, sam jackson, > ewan mcgregor, > > Of those, Natalie Portman is hardly a household name. > The professional? She's also done tv stuff > >> jake lloyd, etc. were all famous when they made star wars > movies. > > Name one other thing you've seen Jake Lloyd in. (blushing) Jingle all the way [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:30:22 -0800 From: gregorys@mail.xmission.com Subject: RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will Are you saying that "The ProfessionaL made Natalie Portman famous and that "Jingle All the Way" made Jake Lloyd famous? I didn't mean to imply that neither had worked in the business before, but I stand by my assertion that neither were household names. > >> Alec guiness?? Liam neeson, natalie portman, sam jackson, > ewan mcgregor, > > Of those, Natalie Portman is hardly a household name. > The professional? She's also done tv stuff > >> jake lloyd, etc. were all famous when they made star wars > movies. > > Name one other thing you've seen Jake Lloyd in. (blushing) Jingle all the way - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:32:38 EDT From: SkipyLlama@aol.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will In a message dated 6/28/99 1:31:11 PM Central Daylight Time, gregorys@mail.xmission.com writes: > Are you saying that "The ProfessionaL made Natalie Portman > famous and that "Jingle All the Way" made Jake Lloyd famous? > I didn't mean to imply that neither had worked in the > business before, but I stand by my assertion that neither > were household names. Household names, no. But I was replying to the message that (as I (possibly incorrectly took it) star wars had no actors that were at all known before, and jake lloyd and natalie portman had both done fairly successful hollywood films before [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:38:46 -0400 From: Jenifer Bamond Subject: [Fwd: [MV] Make of it what you will] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------6E75007488D4EFB45866F90B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!! - --------------6E75007488D4EFB45866F90B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by hq.idt.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15903 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10yfyi-0000cO-00 for movies-goout@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:18:00 -0600 Received: from [139.134.5.237] (helo=teapot06.domain1.bigpond.com) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10yfyf-0000aE-00 for movies@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:17:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot06.domain1.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id na047957 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:14:48 +1000 Received: from CWIP-T-006-p-108-211.tmns.net.au ([139.134.108.211]) by mail1.bigpond.com (Claudes-Thermal-MailRouter V2.3a 1/940459); 29 Jun 1999 04:14:48 Message-ID: <3778AA1C.AF1EEBA5@filmink-online.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:12:28 -0700 From: Oz Organization: http://www.filmink-online.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com SkipyLlama@aol.com wrote: > > But then again, Celebrity had leo in it, and it wasn't > a "leo movie." I think after Man In The Iron Mask, the hordes of Leo-philes have found a new flavor of the month. They're all out queueing up for BoyZone autographs at the mall. Whether or not Leo finds his way into Star Wars (I'd be very surprised) he's long past peaked. It's a shame he became dribble fodder, he's actually a decent actor. ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] - --------------6E75007488D4EFB45866F90B-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:39:35 -0500 From: Wade Snider Subject: RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will Certainly not a household name, but there may be a varying range of just how famous one has to get before becoming a household name.. (Ewan Macgregor is famous, but hardly a household name, as i know plenty of people who don't know the name right away.)The original poster a while back mentioned that no one was famous in the SW movies. I think the assertion that Portman is not a household name is valid, but I would say she is relatively famous, at least mildly recognized as a sharp young talent, before she was cast for Ep. 1. I would also agree that Jake Lloyd was not really famous, so to speak, ebfore Ep.1..... Portman was acclaimed for her role in The Professional, as mentioned, as well as Beautiful Girls, Heat and a couple of others I can't think of... (not including her theater work) I would suggest that Natalie Portman was better known as an actress before Ep.1 than Harrison Ford was before Ep.4.. > -----Original Message----- > From: gregorys@mail.xmission.com [SMTP:gregorys@mail.xmission.com] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 2:30 PM > To: movies@xmission.com > Subject: RE: Re: [MV] Make of it what you will > > > Are you saying that "The ProfessionaL made Natalie Portman > famous and that "Jingle All the Way" made Jake Lloyd famous? > I didn't mean to imply that neither had worked in the > business before, but I stand by my assertion that neither > were household names. > > > >> Alec guiness?? Liam neeson, natalie portman, sam jackson, > > ewan mcgregor, > > > > Of those, Natalie Portman is hardly a household name. > > > The professional? She's also done tv stuff > > > >> jake lloyd, etc. were all famous when they made star wars > > movies. > > > > Name one other thing you've seen Jake Lloyd in. > (blushing) Jingle all the way > > > ----- > Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) > The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #206 **************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]