From: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com (movies-digest) To: movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: movies-digest V2 #247 Reply-To: movies-digest Sender: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-movies-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk movies-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 247 Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT [MV] Test, Please Ignore [MV] Test, Please Ignore [MV] Girl Interupted [MV] Double Jeopardy RE: [MV] Girl Interupted [MV] War Movies [MV] RE: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... [MV] RE: (MV) FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies RE: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies [MV] Fight Club ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:21:23 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT From: Gene Ehrich >I know an interesting movie when I see it. I also know a steaming >pile of cack when I see it, and that's what Double Jeopardy was. >Look past the smoke and mirrors, Patricia. >Oh, never mind. Just go see American Beauty. Now *THAT* is >interesting. I agree that American Beauty was a much better movie from a technical standpoint and Double Jeopardy was so full of holes in the story etc. HOWEVER, my wife and I both enjoyed Double Jeopardy much more of the two. It was just a more fun movie. They were both good but Jeopardy was better. I was very pleasantly surprised with it. - ------------------------------------------------------ On-Line Computer & Video Game Garage Sale http://www.voicenet.com/~generic generic3@home.com Gene Ehrich [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:21:23 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: Re: [MV] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT From: Gene Ehrich >I know an interesting movie when I see it. I also know a steaming >pile of cack when I see it, and that's what Double Jeopardy was. >Look past the smoke and mirrors, Patricia. >Oh, never mind. Just go see American Beauty. Now *THAT* is >interesting. I agree that American Beauty was a much better movie from a technical standpoint and Double Jeopardy was so full of holes in the story etc. HOWEVER, my wife and I both enjoyed Double Jeopardy much more of the two. It was just a more fun movie. They were both good but Jeopardy was better. I was very pleasantly surprised with it. - ------------------------------------------------------ On-Line Computer & Video Game Garage Sale http://www.voicenet.com/~generic generic3@home.com Gene Ehrich [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:11:02 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: [MV] Test, Please Ignore I said "please." [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:11:02 -0600 From: "Gregory A. Swarthout" Subject: [MV] Test, Please Ignore I said "please." [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:52:00 -0700 From: ("David M Hoptman") Subject: [MV] Girl Interupted I saw a sneak preview of a really good new movie.It's called "Girl Interupted" which stars Winona Ryder as the main character,a disturbed young woman who is checked into a mental institution.It's a little like a female version of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and co-stars Angela Jolie,and many other familiar faces which I can't remember.----Dave [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:58:28 -0700 From: "Jacqueline Martin" Subject: [MV] Double Jeopardy This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF207A.F683E080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to give it to that film, it was somewhat entertaining, but I = could not get past the intelligence-insulting plot. And having 2 people, = that are supposedly versed on the law, advise this woman that she can go = and kill her husband, because the state already convicted her of it. = Tommy Lee Jones needs to read other scripts and stop chasing people! It = was rather laughable...It is not the worst movie this year, but it is = not better than American Beauty.=20 My top 5 so far this year: 1. American Beauty 2. Fight Club 3. Sixth Sense 4. Three Kings 5. The Blair Witch Project Jackie - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF207A.F683E080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have to give it to that film, it was somewhat = entertaining,=20 but I could not get past the intelligence-insulting plot. And having 2 = people,=20 that are supposedly versed on the law, advise this woman that=20 she can go and kill her husband, because the state already = convicted her of=20 it. Tommy Lee Jones needs to read other scripts and stop = chasing=20 people! It was rather laughable...It is not the worst movie this = year, but=20 it is not better than American Beauty.
My top 5 so far this year:
 
1. American Beauty
2. Fight Club
3. Sixth Sense
4. Three Kings
5. The Blair Witch Project
 
Jackie
- ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF207A.F683E080-- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:00:53 -0500 From: julie_klenko@pleasantco.com Subject: RE: [MV] Girl Interupted I recently rented a movie called Waterdance which is also like Cukoo's nest. > -----Original Message----- > From: David.Hoptman@wellpoint.com [SMTP:David.Hoptman@wellpoint.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:52 PM > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] Girl Interupted > > I saw a sneak preview of a really good new movie.It's called "Girl > Interupted" > which stars Winona Ryder as the > main character,a disturbed young woman who is checked into a mental > institution.It's a little like a female > version of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and co-stars Angela Jolie,and > many > other familiar faces which I > can't remember.----Dave > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:13:25 -0500 From: julie_klenko@pleasantco.com Subject: [MV] War Movies I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this movie really stretched it. My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:07:00 -0500 From: "Eldridge, Carla" Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT When the previews for the Judd movie first came out, I knew that I didn't want to see it because in less than 30 seconds I knew that Ashley Judd had been framed for the murder of husband, goes to jail, meets a lawyer in jail (good place for them), gets out of jail, and successfully meets up with hr husband and happens to have Tommy Lee Jones there with her. There was no thrill left because I knew Ashley would be triumphant. After reading Oz's rather intellectual break down of some of the scenes, I know I don't want to see it unless it's on tape so I can fast forward through to the more "meaty" parts. Why pay $8.00 for a thriller where I know the ending? Just wait till it hits Blockbuster and see for $1.99. If you want to see a thriller, rent Diabolique (French version). It's got women as the lead characters, an adulterous affair, murder, and a twist ending. Or for a very strong female lead character, check out Lena Olin in Romeo's Bleeding. She is fabulous! Carla ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (MV) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:54:10 EDT Author: "Oz" at chicago1 Date: 10/27/1999 12:54 PM Tinniebaby@aol.com wrote: > > I do also agree with what Patricia had to say about the discussion and > the movie, I rather enjoyed to movie and I would see it again. Good lord, why? You know the ending! > It was one > that make me think and wonder what she was going to do next. I thought that > it was a movie that not all persons would relate with (men) manly and that > being that I don't think that men can relate every well with a head strong > women who is willing to take things into her own hands to get something done. Okay, I'll list the reasons this movie was a stinkbomb. Perhaps they're reasons that matter to me and not to most folks, but regardless, here's my list. The cliches (potential spoilers, but not really): 1. The burnt out old cop with no heart, no ambition and a drinking problem? Gee, do ya think he'll loosen up at some point? Jackie Brown anyone? 2. The arrogant young boss cop who yells down the phone continually "you get your ass back to Detroit!" Beverly Hills Cop anyone? 3. The scenes where Ashley Judd decides she's gonna be a tough momma and starts working out. Geez, we saw this crap in Terminator, GI Jane, Officer And A Gentleman. Having her cellmate watching her jogging in the rain and yelling "you ain't runnin' on nothin' but pure hatred, girl!" was the funniest part of the movie. Is this to indicate she's a "strong woman"? I don't know. I'm a man, we can't see these things. 4. The bumbling old crusty art delaer who doesn't have a clue what all the fuss is about. 5. The evil businessman husband who pretends to be nice. To attempt to portray him as nice we're introduced to him at a fundraiser for a "children's school". As opposed to a senior citizens' school, I guess. Lamo. Easy option. 6. Of the thousands of inmates at the prison, Ashley just happens to befriend a lawyer. Oh please. It's more likely she'd befriend an axe-wielding lesbian with one eye. 7. It seems that with one click on the internet you can get the names, addresses and phone numbers of every teacher in America. Someone should keep that information away from the kids. 8. ***SPOILER!*** When the bad guy captures Ashley, he doesn't kill her, he just locks her away. Zzzz. How very James Bond. 9. ***SPOILER*** Being chased through a crowd of people, cops on her tail, twisting, turning, diving around every corner, losing her, seeing her again, they finally get close and spin the woman with the red umbrella around... do you REALLY think it's Ashley? Seriously, do ya? I mean, have you ever seen another movie, ever? This cliche is used ALL the time. I spotted it coming a mile and a half away. 10. ***SPOILER*** Ashley wakes on the boat, covered in blood, stumbles through the boat wondering where her hubby has gone, finds her way to the top deck, spots a bloodied knife on the deck, PICKS IT UP (maybe she thought her husband was underneath it.. or something) juuuuuuuust as the coast guard boat arrives. Wow, what neat timing. 11. ***SPOILER*** When Ashley is cuffed to her door handle on the car ferry and starts reversing and forwarding the car to try to break the handle on a protruding boat pipe (how coincidental) she's bashing into other cars, even pushes one of the front of the boat into the water, but NOBODY hears or sees anything suspicious. Oh come on. Wake up people, this wasn't a thriller. Yes, it was suspenseful in parts, but thrilling? Not a once. It was cack. I give it 1 star. If you want to see a movie that portrays a strong woman, go rent Betty Blue. Or Thelma and Louise. Or Once Were Warriors. But running around a prisonyard in the rain does not make a woman strong. It makes her wet. ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 From: "Eldridge, Carla" Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: (MV) War Movies Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" at chicago1 Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this movie really stretched it. My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:40:00 -0700 From: ("David M Hoptman") Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from when i was a kid are "Force 10 From Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger moore.---Dave - ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, julie_klenko@pleasantco.com From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: (MV) War Movies Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" at chicago1 Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this movie really stretched it. My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:44:15 -0700 From: Oz Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... "(David M Hoptman)" wrote: > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > Subject: Fwd: MovieJuice! NEWS BULLETIN - MovieJuice.com Signs Deal with Trimark Pictures Hey Chronic-Forwarding guy, why are you forwarding mails to this list that have already been on this list? ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:53:55 -0400 From: "amr4225" Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have liked - Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms. The Counterfeit Traitor is also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of WWII. Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line. 10X better than Saving Private Ryan. Aramis - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David M Hoptman" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from when i > was a kid are "Force 10 From > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger > moore.---Dave > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 > To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com > Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com > Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: (MV) War Movies > Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" at > > chicago1 > Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this > movie really stretched it. > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:55:00 -0500 From: "Eldridge, Carla" Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies And I just thought of another "war" movie...more along the lines of the cold war: The Third Man. Absolutley love it. Carla ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: RE:(MV) RE: (MV) War Movies Author: "amr4225" at chicago1 Date: 10/27/1999 5:53 PM I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have liked - Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms. The Counterfeit Traitor is also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of WWII. Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line. 10X better than Saving Private Ryan. Aramis - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David M Hoptman" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from when i > was a kid are "Force 10 From > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger > moore.---Dave > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 > To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com > Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com > Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: (MV) War Movies > Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" at > > chicago1 > Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this > movie really stretched it. > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:09:00 -0700 From: ("David M Hoptman") Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... Well Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy!!! I didn't know it was already posted. - ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:44:15 -0700 To: movies@lists.xmission.com From: oz@hollywoodbitchslap.com Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... "(David M Hoptman)" wrote: > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > Subject: Fwd: MovieJuice! NEWS BULLETIN - MovieJuice.com Signs Deal with Trimark Pictures Hey Chronic-Forwarding guy, why are you forwarding mails to this list that have already been on this list? ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:15:00 -0500 From: "Eldridge, Carla" Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... I expected to have discussions with others via e-mail about movies at this site. What I wasn't expecting was to occasionally get a good laugh as well. Today's exchanges have been great. To the "Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy" dude: thanks for sending me home with a smile on my face! Peace out, Carla ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (MV) FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... Author: "David.Hoptman@wellpoint.com" at chicago1 Date: 10/27/1999 6:09 PM Well Excuuuuuuuusssssssss Meeeeeeeeeeee Ozzzzzzzyyyy!!! I didn't know it was already posted. - ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:44:15 -0700 To: movies@lists.xmission.com From: oz@hollywoodbitchslap.com Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [MV] FW:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:fwd:fwd:fffffffffwd... "(David M Hoptman)" wrote: > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > Subject: Fwd: MovieJuice! NEWS BULLETIN - MovieJuice.com Signs Deal with Trimark Pictures Hey Chronic-Forwarding guy, why are you forwarding mails to this list that have already been on this list? ----------------- {{{OZ}}} ------------------- ------- http://www.filmink-online.com -------- ---------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Want to earn money on your website? How does 17c a click sound? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.valueclick.com/cgi-bin/refer_host_signup?host=h0032965 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:22:52 +0100 From: MARK Subject: RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged (In my opinion). The two films were 10x different from each other, but both conveyed the message of the horror of war. My personal fave is Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha Beach opening attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: amr4225 [SMTP:amr4225@bway.net] > Sent: 27 October 1999 23:54 > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have > liked - > Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms. The Counterfeit Traitor > is > also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of > WWII. > Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line. 10X better than > Saving > Private Ryan. > Aramis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David M Hoptman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM > Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember > from > when i > > was a kid are "Force 10 From > > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger > > moore.---Dave > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 > > To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com > > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com > > Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com > > Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > > _________________________________ > > Subject: (MV) War Movies > > Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" > > at > > > > chicago1 > > Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > > > > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I > thought > this > > movie really stretched it. > > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:45:32 -0400 From: "amr4225" Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Mark: I agree with you 100% - they are different films. It was a poor choice of words on my part. Let's just say I PREFER The Thin Red Line 10x over Saving Private Ryan. Aramis - ----- Original Message ----- From: MARK To: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:22 AM Subject: RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged > (In my opinion). The two films were 10x different from each other, but > both conveyed the message of the horror of war. My personal fave is > Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate > the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha Beach opening > attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: amr4225 [SMTP:amr4225@bway.net] > > Sent: 27 October 1999 23:54 > > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have > > liked - > > Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms. The Counterfeit Traitor > > is > > also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of > > WWII. > > Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line. 10X better than > > Saving > > Private Ryan. > > Aramis > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David M Hoptman" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM > > Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > > > > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember > > from > > when i > > > was a kid are "Force 10 From > > > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger > > > moore.---Dave > > > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 > > > To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > > > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com > > > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com > > > Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com > > > Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > > > _________________________________ > > > Subject: (MV) War Movies > > > Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" > > > > at > > > > > > chicago1 > > > Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > > > > > > > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I > > thought > > this > > > movie really stretched it. > > > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:07 CDT From: "Wade Snider" Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Both excellent movies! I just watched Apocalypse Now again last weekend on Encore. Amazing movie. It's also hilarious to see Lawrence Fishburne as a punk teenager. There are so many good things about that movie, which is not a typical war movie, which is what makes it so good. I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie, especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny and some fascinating direction. > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: (MV) War Movies >Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" >at > >chicago1 >Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > >I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this >movie really stretched it. >My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:04:40 CDT From: "Wade Snider" Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies SPOLIER FOR FORCE 10 FROM NAVARONE! I think one of the funniest scenes I can remember in a war movie is after Ford and the other character (was it Edward fox's? I don't remember) blew the bomb in the dam and then ran out of there, right past some german soldiers, who were startled by them at first then turned and ran right behind them when they heard the dam begin to break. I laughed so hard at that. >I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember from >when i >was a kid are "Force 10 From >Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger >moore.---Dave > >------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 >To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com >From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com >Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com >Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: (MV) War Movies >Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" >at > >chicago1 >Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > >I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this >movie really stretched it. >My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:53:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Waelterman Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote: > I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie, > especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it > is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny > and some fascinating direction. when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very interested in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david o. russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie. it just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what i would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after "schizopolis". but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings". [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:15:47 CDT From: "Wade Snider" Subject: RE: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Good Call. They are very different movies. TRL is a much more metaphysical-ish (hahaha) type of movie, more existential in how the characters and plots interwine. It is a very complex movie, and it has some amazing shots. I actually like some of the battle scenes in this movie better than SPR, but that is because I like the sort of eerie majestic nature and colorful depiction of it, as opposed to the overwhelming chaos and fear in SPR (which is less artistic in a certain way but certainly more realistic). But, I like SPR better I think, and I found it a tremendous experience. > >To call Thin Red Line 10x better than Saving Private Ryan is ill-judged >(In my opinion). The two films were 10x different from each other, but >both conveyed the message of the horror of war. My personal fave is >Thin Red Line, down to content and execution, however, you cannot negate >the brilliance of Spielbergs' Private Ryan, and the Omaha Beach opening >attack will truly stand out as a classic piece of cinema. > >Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: amr4225 [SMTP:amr4225@bway.net] > > Sent: 27 October 1999 23:54 > > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > I don't usually like war movies either but there are a couple I have > > liked - > > Apocalypse Now, Platoon and A Force of Arms. The Counterfeit Traitor > > is > > also good - though it's more of an espionage take on the business of > > WWII. > > Most recently though I enjoyed The Thin Red Line. 10X better than > > Saving > > Private Ryan. > > Aramis > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David M Hoptman" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:40 PM > > Subject: RE:[MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > > > > I don't usually like war movies,but a couple great ones I remember > > from > > when i > > > was a kid are "Force 10 From > > > Navarone" w/Harrison Ford and also "The Wild Geese" starring Roger > > > moore.---Dave > > > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )-------------------- > > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:21:00 -0500 > > > To: movies@xmission.com, movies@leben.com, film@egroups.com, > > > julie_klenko@pleasantco.com > > > From: Carla.Eldridge[CEldridge]@sandc.com > > > Sender: owner-movies@lists.xmission.com > > > Reply-To: movies@lists.xmission.com > > > Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > > > > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > > > _________________________________ > > > Subject: (MV) War Movies > > > Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" > > > > at > > > > > > chicago1 > > > Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > > > > > > > > I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I > > thought > > this > > > movie really stretched it. > > > My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > > > > > > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > >[ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:12:00 -0500 From: "Eldridge, Carla" Subject: [MV] RE: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies My favorite scenes from Apocalypse Now are: Duval and his men are flying in their helicopters. Wagner's Ride of the Valkyre is blasting in the background as the camera zooms in on the gun turrets in time with the music. The second one is when Duval and his men are going out to catch a wave during the fighting. Have you seen the documentary Hearts of Darkness that Coppola's wife shot. It's a nice follow up to Apocalypse Now. Carla ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (MV) RE: (MV) War Movies Author: "Wade Snider" at chicago1 Date: 10/28/1999 9:00 AM Both excellent movies! I just watched Apocalypse Now again last weekend on Encore. Amazing movie. It's also hilarious to see Lawrence Fishburne as a punk teenager. There are so many good things about that movie, which is not a typical war movie, which is what makes it so good. I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war movie, especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. But, it is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very funny and some fascinating direction. > > I really enjoyed Das Boot and Apocalypse Now. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: (MV) War Movies >Author: "julie_klenko@pleasantco.com" >at > >chicago1 >Date: 10/27/1999 3:13 PM > > >I didn't care for Three Kings. I was not in the gulf war but I thought this >movie really stretched it. >My personal fav war movie is Full Metal Jacket. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:29:06 CDT From: "Wade Snider" Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote: > > I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war >movie, > > especially since the war was basically over during the movie's plot. >But, it > > is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Very >funny > > and some fascinating direction. > >when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very interested >in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david o. >russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre >movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia >arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie. it >just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my >astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what i >would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after >"schizopolis". > >but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings". I enjoyed Flirting with Disaster too for the most part, and yeah, it is hard to believe that this is the same director. It is a WILDLY different style, although the characters in Three Kings are written fairly well. The thing i was trying to say I think is that is barely a war movie, but it still sort of fits that category, since it deals with the gulf war and its aspects. It's sort of a caper-buddy movie but even that's too simplistic, and more about some american soldiers seeing the gulf war from some of the iraqi population's standpoint. It has some moral issues and all, and it gets a little melodramatic (barely), but it has some GREAT dialogue, funny observations, good acting, some amazing direction, basically a very witty and well done movie, much more intelligent than many people realize. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:57:50 +0100 From: MARK Subject: RE: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies Not strictly a war film, but a film set in wartime, has anyone seen "The Hill" starring Sean Connery. From what I can remember it is a truly gripping film, regarding an army Prison (I think, it has been many years since I last saw it). MARK > -----Original Message----- > From: Wade Snider [SMTP:wds9974@hotmail.com] > Sent: 28 October 1999 15:29 > To: movies@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [MV] RE: (MV) War Movies > > >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Wade Snider wrote: > > > I personally liked Three Kings. It's hard to call it much of a war > > >movie, > > > especially since the war was basically over during the movie's > plot. > >But, it > > > is still set there at that time. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. > Very > >funny > > > and some fascinating direction. > > > >when i first saw the previews for "three kings", i wasnt very > interested > >in it, although i was astonished to see that it was directed by david > o. > >russell - he directed "spanking the monkey", which is a very bizarre > >movie, and "flirting with disaster" with ben stiller and patricia > >arquette, and alan alda as an lsd-cook, which is a hilarious movie. > it > >just didnt seem like anything russell would make - similar to my > >astonishment at seeing previews for "out of sight", which wasnt what > i > >would have expected from steven soderbergh, especially after > >"schizopolis". > > > >but i think i am going to eventually check out "three kings". > > I enjoyed Flirting with Disaster too for the most part, and yeah, it > is hard > to believe that this is the same director. It is a WILDLY different > style, > although the characters in Three Kings are written fairly well. The > thing i > was trying to say I think is that is barely a war movie, but it still > sort > of fits that category, since it deals with the gulf war and its > aspects. > It's sort of a caper-buddy movie but even that's too simplistic, and > more > about some american soldiers seeing the gulf war from some of the > iraqi > population's standpoint. It has some moral issues and all, and it gets > a > little melodramatic (barely), but it has some GREAT dialogue, funny > observations, good acting, some amazing direction, basically a very > witty > and well done movie, much more intelligent than many people realize. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:00:54 PDT From: "Danielle Conkle" Subject: [MV] Fight Club Hey what are people thinking of the movie Fight Club? I think it's the best movie I've seen all year. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [ To leave the movies mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ movies" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of movies-digest V2 #247 **************************** [ To quit the movies-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe movies-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]