From: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (ngamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: ngamers-digest V1 #52 Reply-To: ngamers Sender: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk ngamers-digest Sunday, December 22 2002 Volume 01 : Number 052 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:09:40 -0800 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] online console disapointments - --Boundary_(ID_SCwN/xDcBlTLWMGIuzdcPg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT There's a few bright spots next year. i was watching the livecast from the Square booth at Jumpfest and caught the FF XI trailer. This may be old news to some, but I had written it off in favour of Star Wars Galaxies. But the trailer really impressed me. I think I might pick up the PC version, or **gasp**, go with the PS2 version. Dexter Pythagoras wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dexter S. > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [NG] Sup? ... and addictions > > > > I always wanted to try to go online with my PS2, but Sony > > has yet to send a second shipment of Network Adapters to > > my area. > > It's a plot by me to ruin your Xmas. > > Dexter > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > What PS2 games are online anyway? The only ones I know of are Tony > Hawk's Pro Skater 3 & 4, Madden 2003, Twisted Metal: Black - Online, > and the Broadband only SOCOM. I'm no big fan of football, aside from > the 2K series, and I only buy those when they become dirt cheap (which > it seems the PS2 and GameCube versions of NFL 2K3 are $20 already, but > I'm holding out for the XBOX version), but even then, there has to be > no other game I want before I get a new football game. Pro Skater 3 I > have on the PS2, but I heard that you can't play "Horse" online, which > takes the fun out of that. TMB - Online, you get that free with the > Network Adapter but by mail, and it's only 2 player dial-up and 8 > player broadband, which sounds just plain silly, and gives me no > incentive to really want a Network Adapter for that. I mean geeze, > that (TMB - O) is pathetic, especially compared to the online games > that could be done on the Dreamcast which was mainly dial-up. Also, it > looks like Auto Modellista is going to be broadband only, and I don't > know of any other net games on the PS2. Big disappointment that the > PS2 version of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 isn't online, and same with > GameCube's Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO. I really can't understand why Capcom > didn't at least give those features that originated in the Dreamcast > to their latest re-releases of Naomi fighting games. But if I did have > broadband, I'm sure there's no question as to what console I'd be > taking online (if I could afford it). Trey > Treytable@earthlink.net > http://tinyurl.com/3kb5 > "They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, > they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also > laughed at Bozo the Clown." - Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) - --Boundary_(ID_SCwN/xDcBlTLWMGIuzdcPg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT There's a few bright spots next year.

i was watching the livecast from the Square booth at Jumpfest and caught the FF XI trailer.  This may be old news to some, but I had written it off in favour of Star Wars Galaxies.  But the trailer really impressed me.  I think I might pick up the PC version, or **gasp**, go with the PS2 version.

Dexter

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From: Dexter S.
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:32 PM
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I always wanted to try to go online with my PS2, but Sony has yet to send a second shipment of Network Adapters to my area.
It's a plot by me to ruin your Xmas.

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 What PS2 games are online anyway? The only ones I know of are Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 & 4, Madden 2003, Twisted Metal: Black - Online, and the Broadband only SOCOM. I'm no big fan of football, aside from the 2K series, and I only buy those when they become dirt cheap (which it seems the PS2 and GameCube versions of NFL 2K3 are $20 already, but I'm holding out for the XBOX version), but even then, there has to be no other game I want before I get a new football game. Pro Skater 3 I have on the PS2, but I heard that you can't play "Horse" online, which takes the fun out of that. TMB - Online, you get that free with the Network Adapter but by mail, and it's only 2 player dial-up and 8 player broadband, which sounds just plain silly, and gives me no incentive to really want a Network Adapter for that. I mean geeze, that (TMB - O) is pathetic, especially compared to the online games that could be done on the Dreamcast which was mainly dial-up. Also, it looks like Auto Modellista is going to be broadband only, and I don't know of any other net games on the PS2. Big disappointment that the PS2 version of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 isn't online, and same with GameCube's Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO. I really can't understand why Capcom didn't at least give those features that originated in the Dreamcast to their latest re-releases of Naomi fighting games. But if I did have broadband, I'm sure there's no question as to what console I'd be taking online (if I could afford it). Trey
Treytable@earthlink.net
http://tinyurl.com/3kb5
"They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton,
 they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also
 laughed at Bozo the Clown." - - Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
- --Boundary_(ID_SCwN/xDcBlTLWMGIuzdcPg)-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 20:29:42 -0600 From: Don Subject: [NG] Metroid Prime Ending. Big Spoiler This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_IMaTZnCP/q4Ed5GrDuq29g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Spoiler Space * * * * * * * * Ok I just beat Metroid Prime, time in 19:28 (I think) with a percentage of 90%. All I can say is that ending SUCKED. I am so ripped right now, I mean the game was awesome and it is definitely one of the best I've ever played in a long time now but I mean COME ON! All that happened was I killed the heart of Metroid Prime and then it shook around for a few seconds, took my phazon suit (wtf was up with that? Just to rid everything of phazon I guess) and then this warning came up about an explosion. So then it shows me back at the artifact site as it's blowing up and then I jump on my space ship and then Samus removes her helmet and then looks for about 3 seconds at the rubble. Then the ship cruises out of the planet and away. Roll credits and then it's all over. That's it, nothing to see about what happened to the space pirates that weren't on the planet, didn't see anything about phazon after that or creatures or EVEN in the LEAST I would have thought that there would have been a cinematic 'return' to places and creatures of the game while rolling the credits ala Dragon Warrior III or Zelda: Link to the Past or TLoZOoT. Geez would it have killed them to put together something better? Well just to see what I was missing with 99% complete or 100% or whatever (since they screwed up with the phazon suit not being calculated in the percentages or at least shown on the file selection screen) I went on gamefaqs and the only thing added is that a hand jumps out of a puddle of phazon with an alien eye on it that looks around. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh . Well I'm kinda ripped is anyone else? I mean it was an awesome game, no denying that but the ending is definitely one of the worst I've seen in a long time. Don - --Boundary_(ID_IMaTZnCP/q4Ed5GrDuq29g) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

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Ok I just beat Metroid Prime, time in 19:28 (I think) with a percentage of 90%.  All I can say is that ending SUCKED.  I am so ripped right now, I mean the game was awesome and it is definitely one of the best I’ve ever played in a long time now but I mean COME ON!  All that happened was I killed the heart of Metroid Prime and then it shook around for a few seconds, took my phazon suit (wtf was up with that? Just to rid everything of phazon I guess) and then this warning came up about an explosion.  So then it shows me back at the artifact site as it’s blowing up and then I jump on my space ship and then Samus removes her helmet and then looks for about 3 seconds at the rubble.  Then the ship cruises out of the planet and away.  Roll credits and then it’s all over.  That’s it, nothing to see about what happened to the space pirates that weren’t on the planet, didn’t see anything about phazon after that or creatures or EVEN in the LEAST I would have thought that there would have been a cinematic ‘return’ to places and creatures of the game while rolling the credits ala Dragon Warrior III or Zelda: Link to the Past or TLoZOoT.  Geez would it have killed them to put together something better?  Well just to see what I was missing with 99% complete or 100% or whatever (since they screwed up with the phazon suit not being calculated in the percentages or at least shown on the file selection screen) I went on gamefaqs and the only thing added is that a hand jumps out of a puddle of phazon with an alien eye on it that looks around.  Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh <SARCASM>.  Well I’m kinda ripped is anyone else?  I mean it was an awesome game, no denying that but the ending is definitely one of the worst I’ve seen in a long time.

 

Don

- --Boundary_(ID_IMaTZnCP/q4Ed5GrDuq29g)-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:53:23 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Metroid Prime Ending. Big Spoiler - --part1_6d.5537310.2b37f0c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 12/22/2002 9:32:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 d.fentie@shaw.ca writes: > >> Spoiler Space >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> * >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Ok I just beat Metroid Prime, time in 19:28 (I think) with a percentage o= f=20 >> 90%. All I can say is that ending SUCKED. I am so ripped right now, I=20 >> mean the game was awesome and it is definitely one of the best I=E2=80= =99ve ever=20 >> played in a long time now but I mean COME ON! All that happened was I=20 >> killed the heart of Metroid Prime and then it shook around for a few=20 >> seconds, took my phazon suit (wtf was up with that? Just to rid everythin= g=20 >> of phazon I guess) and then this warning came up about an explosion. So=20 >> then it shows me back at the artifact site as it=E2=80=99s blowing up and= then I=20 >> jump on my space ship and then Samus removes her helmet and then looks fo= r=20 >> about 3 seconds at the rubble. Then the ship cruises out of the planet=20 >> and away. Roll credits and then it=E2=80=99s all over. That=E2=80=99s i= t, nothing to=20 >> see about what happened to the space pirates that weren=E2=80=99t on the=20= planet,=20 >> didn=E2=80=99t see anything about phazon after that or creatures or EVEN=20= in the=20 >> LEAST I would have thought that there would have been a cinematic =E2=80= =98return=E2=80=99 >> to places and creatures of the game while rolling the credits ala Dragon= =20 >> Warrior III or Zelda: Link to the Past or TLoZOoT. Geez would it have=20 >> killed them to put together something better? Well just to see what I wa= s=20 >> missing with 99% complete or 100% or whatever (since they screwed up with= =20 >> the phazon suit not being calculated in the percentages or at least shown= =20 >> on the file selection screen) I went on gamefaqs and the only thing added= =20 >> is that a hand jumps out of a puddle of phazon with an alien eye on it=20 >> that looks around. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh . Well I=E2=80=99m kinda rip= ped is=20 >> anyone else? I mean it was an awesome game, no denying that but the=20 >> ending is definitely one of the worst I=E2=80=99ve seen in a long time. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Don >>=20 >>=20 >=20 What did you expect? The ending is the same as every Metroid game. The=20 "special" ending isn't mind blowing, but it's cool none the less. I thought=20 the ending was plenty for a Metroid fan, and appropriate for the series. ~Matt - --part1_6d.5537310.2b37f0c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 12/22/2002 9:32:15 PM Eastern Stan= dard Time, d.fentie@shaw.ca writes:

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What did you expect? The ending is the same as every Metroid game. The "spec= ial" ending isn't mind blowing, but it's cool none the less. I thought the e= nding was plenty for a Metroid fan, and appropriate for the series.

~Matt - --part1_6d.5537310.2b37f0c3_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:40:58 -0600 From: Don Subject: RE: [NG] Metroid Prime Ending. Big Spoiler This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_yXGuJo54/980e+p3srjD6w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT - -----Original Message----- From: owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-NGamers@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of DarkBastion@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:53 PM To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [NG] Metroid Prime Ending. Big Spoiler In a message dated 12/22/2002 9:32:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, d.fentie@shaw.ca writes: Spoiler Space * * * * * * * * Ok I just beat Metroid Prime, time in 19:28 (I think) with a percentage of 90%. All I can say is that ending SUCKED. I am so ripped right now, I mean the game was awesome and it is definitely one of the best I've ever played in a long time now but I mean COME ON! All that happened was I killed the heart of Metroid Prime and then it shook around for a few seconds, took my phazon suit (wtf was up with that? Just to rid everything of phazon I guess) and then this warning came up about an explosion. So then it shows me back at the artifact site as it's blowing up and then I jump on my space ship and then Samus removes her helmet and then looks for about 3 seconds at the rubble. Then the ship cruises out of the planet and away. Roll credits and then it's all over. That's it, nothing to see about what happened to the space pirates that weren't on the planet, didn't see anything about phazon after that or creatures or EVEN in the LEAST I would have thought that there would have been a cinematic 'return' to places and creatures of the game while rolling the credits ala Dragon Warrior III or Zelda: Link to the Past or TLoZOoT. Geez would it have killed them to put together something better? Well just to see what I was missing with 99% complete or 100% or whatever (since they screwed up with the phazon suit not being calculated in the percentages or at least shown on the file selection screen) I went on gamefaqs and the only thing added is that a hand jumps out of a puddle of phazon with an alien eye on it that looks around. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh . Well I'm kinda ripped is anyone else? I mean it was an awesome game, no denying that but the ending is definitely one of the worst I've seen in a long time. Don What did you expect? The ending is the same as every Metroid game. The "special" ending isn't mind blowing, but it's cool none the less. I thought the ending was plenty for a Metroid fan, and appropriate for the series. ~Matt Appropriate? Are you crazy? Well sure maybe back in the 1980's that was appropriate but these days everyone has come to expect more. I expected some sort of cinematic, maybe one that lasted 5 minutes at least but I was hoping for something longer than an approximate 45 seconds. Take a look at Final Fantasy III's ending, now THAT is a good ending, same with the Zeldas. I dunno, It was too open ended for my tastes. Kinda like those movies that sort of stop in the middle of nowhere and they leave you just shaking your head and asking what the heck was that all about? - --Boundary_(ID_yXGuJo54/980e+p3srjD6w) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

 

 

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Ok I just beat Metroid Prime, time in 19:28 (I think) with a percentage of 90%.  All I can say is that ending SUCKED.  I am so ripped right now, I mean the game was awesome and it is definitely one of the best I’ve ever played in a long time now but I mean COME ON!  All that happened was I killed the heart of Metroid Prime and then it shook around for a few seconds, took my phazon suit (wtf was up with that? Just to rid everything of phazon I guess) and then this warning came up about an explosion.  So then it shows me back at the artifact site as it’s blowing up and then I jump on my space ship and then Samus removes her helmet and then looks for about 3 seconds at the rubble.  Then the ship cruises out of the planet and away.  Roll credits and then it’s all over.  That’s it, nothing to see about what happened to the space pirates that weren’t on the planet, didn’t see anything about phazon after that or creatures or EVEN in the LEAST I would have thought that there would have been a cinematic ‘return’ to places and creatures of the game while rolling the credits ala Dragon Warrior III or Zelda: Link to the Past or TLoZOoT.  Geez would it have killed them to put together something better?  Well just to see what I was missing with 99% complete or 100% or whatever (since they screwed up with the phazon suit not being calculated in the percentages or at least shown on the file selection screen) I went on gamefaqs and the only thing added is that a hand jumps out of a puddle of phazon with an alien eye on it that looks around.  Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh <SARCASM>.  Well I’m kinda ripped is anyone else?  I mean it was an awesome game, no denying that but the ending is definitely one of the worst I’ve seen in a long time.

 

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What did you expect? The ending is the same as every Metroid game. The "special" ending isn't mind blowing, but it's cool none the less. I thought the ending was plenty for a Metroid fan, and appropriate for the series.

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Appropriate?  Are you crazy?  Well sure maybe back in the 1980’s that was appropriate but these days everyone has come to expect more.  I expected some sort of cinematic, maybe one that lasted 5 minutes at least but I was hoping for something longer than an approximate 45 seconds.  Take a look at Final Fantasy III’s ending, now THAT is a good ending, same with the Zeldas.  I dunno, It was too open ended for my tastes.  Kinda like those movies that sort of stop in the middle of nowhere and they leave you just shaking your head and asking what the heck was that all about?

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