From: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com (n64-digest) To: n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: n64-digest V1 #1454 Reply-To: n64-digest Sender: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-n64-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk n64-digest Thursday, March 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1454 [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day [N64] The NGC poll RE: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] Missed Conker RE: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Re: [N64] Missed Conker, x-box roms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:01:19 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day - --part1_b6.122ebac2.27d825cf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got Conker's bad Fur Day in the mail, and hot damn, does this game kick ass. EVERYTHING in the game is spoken, even when Conker learns new moves, he has an inner monologue that reads the directions aloud. The game is packed with character, and is just funny as hell. Those who think the movie has only low brow humor are wrong. The opening sequence is a knock off of Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange," complete with the milk. There's more to this game then just potty humor (but there's plenty of that). The gameplay is great, with self-contained levels that open up into amazing new areas. The whole thing feels like an organic world. Conker controls tight, but when he runs, he builds up momentum, and you can't turn on a dime like other games. So far, my only problem is that it's hard to judge which jumps will instantly kill you (break your spine), or only take off some health. But no matter, there are extra lives galore. Oh, and FYI, the ONLY thing you need to collect in this game is money. That's it. No battle crowns or banana medals, or fucking tribals, just money, which you use to buy new moves. That's it. All in all, the game plays great, looks great, sounds great, and is funny as hell. Pick it up ASAP. ~Matt "I love Conker." - --part1_b6.122ebac2.27d825cf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got Conker's bad Fur Day in the mail, and hot damn, does this game kick ass.
EVERYTHING in the game is spoken, even when Conker learns new moves, he has
an inner monologue that reads the directions aloud. The game is packed with
character, and is just funny as hell. Those who think the movie has only low
brow humor are wrong. The opening sequence is a knock off of Kubrick's "A
Clockwork Orange," complete with the milk. There's more to this game then
just potty humor (but there's plenty of that). The gameplay is great, with
self-contained levels that open up into amazing new areas. The whole thing
feels like an organic world. Conker controls tight, but when he runs, he
builds up momentum, and you can't turn on a dime like other games. So far, my
only problem is that it's hard to judge which jumps will instantly kill you
(break your spine), or only take off some health. But no matter, there are
extra lives galore. Oh, and FYI, the ONLY thing you need to collect in this
game is money. That's it. No battle crowns or banana medals, or fucking
tribals, just money, which you use to buy new moves. That's it.

All in all, the game plays great, looks great, sounds great, and is funny as
hell. Pick it up ASAP.


~Matt

"I love Conker." - --part1_b6.122ebac2.27d825cf_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:33:08 -0500 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0A745.D2220200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarkBastion@aol.com=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day Got Conker's bad Fur Day in the mail, and hot damn, does this game = kick ass.=20 EVERYTHING in the game is spoken, even when Conker learns new moves, = he has=20 an inner monologue that reads the directions aloud. The game is packed = with=20 character, and is just funny as hell. Those who think the movie has = only low=20 brow humor are wrong. The opening sequence is a knock off of Kubrick's = "A=20 Clockwork Orange," complete with the milk. There's more to this game = then=20 just potty humor (but there's plenty of that). The gameplay is great, = with=20 self-contained levels that open up into amazing new areas. The whole = thing=20 feels like an organic world. Conker controls tight, but when he runs, = he=20 builds up momentum, and you can't turn on a dime like other games. So = far, my=20 only problem is that it's hard to judge which jumps will instantly = kill you=20 (break your spine), or only take off some health. But no matter, there = are=20 extra lives galore. Oh, and FYI, the ONLY thing you need to collect in = this=20 game is money. That's it. No battle crowns or banana medals, or = fucking=20 tribals, just money, which you use to buy new moves. That's it.=20 All in all, the game plays great, looks great, sounds great, and is = funny as=20 hell. Pick it up ASAP.=20 ~Matt=20 "I love the PlayStation 2."=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- I'd buy it if it were on the PlayStation 2. =3D) Seriously folks, my money is set of Onimusha and Daytona USA. Besides, I = have yet to see the beginning of "A Clockwork Orange." Saw most of it, = but not the beginning. I wonder if it's available on DVD? ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "sad side soda vatic juicy greet kitbag rot teethe tote huts."=20 Treytable@sega.net AIM: Super Trey Bros - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0A745.D2220200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DarkBastion@aol.com
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 = 7:01=20 PM
Subject: [N64] I'm having a Bad = Fur=20 Day

Got Conker's bad Fur Day in the mail, and hot = damn, does=20 this game kick ass.
EVERYTHING in the game is spoken, even when = Conker=20 learns new moves, he has
an inner monologue that reads the = directions=20 aloud. The game is packed with
character, and is just funny as = hell. Those=20 who think the movie has only low
brow humor are wrong. The opening = sequence is a knock off of Kubrick's "A
Clockwork Orange," = complete with=20 the milk. There's more to this game then
just potty humor (but = there's=20 plenty of that). The gameplay is great, with
self-contained levels = that=20 open up into amazing new areas. The whole thing
feels like an = organic=20 world. Conker controls tight, but when he runs, he
builds up = momentum, and=20 you can't turn on a dime like other games. So far, my
only problem = is that=20 it's hard to judge which jumps will instantly kill you
(break your = spine),=20 or only take off some health. But no matter, there are
extra lives = galore.=20 Oh, and FYI, the ONLY thing you need to collect in this
game is = money.=20 That's it. No battle crowns or banana medals, or fucking
tribals, = just=20 money, which you use to buy new moves. That's it.

All in all, = the game=20 plays great, looks great, sounds great, and is funny as
hell. Pick = it up=20 ASAP.


~Matt

"I love the PlayStation 2."=20
 
I'd buy it if it were on the = PlayStation 2.=20 =3D)
Seriously folks, my money is set of = Onimusha and=20 Daytona USA. Besides, I have yet to see the beginning of "A Clockwork = Orange."=20 Saw most of it, but not the beginning. I wonder if it's available on=20 DVD?
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"sad side soda=20 vatic juicy greet kitbag rot teethe tote huts."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Super Trey=20 Bros
- ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0A745.D2220200-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:35:41 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day - --part1_4e.12714aed.27d8661d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> Yes, A Clockwork Orange is on DVD, and it's a great flick. Rent it some time= .=20 As for Onimusha: it's nothing that hasn't been done before, or better, in th= e=20 RE gams. Dave, do your self a favor: rent Onimusha and Conker and see which=20 one you like better. ~Matt "A majority only means that all the fools are on the same side." - --part1_4e.12714aed.27d8661d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <<I'd buy it if it were on the PlayStation 2.=20= =3D)
Seriously folks, my money is set of Onimusha and Daytona US= A. Besides, I have=20
yet to see the beginning of "A Clockwork Orange." Saw most of it, but no= t the=20
beginning. I wonder if it's available on DVD?
=A0
~~ Dave ~~>>

Yes, A Clockwork Orange is on DVD, and it's a great flick.=20= Rent it some time.=20
As for Onimusha: it's nothing that hasn't been done before, or better, i= n the=20
RE gams. Dave, do your self a favor: rent Onimusha and Conker and see wh= ich=20
one you like better.

~Matt

"A majority only means that all the fools are on the same side."<= /HTML> - --part1_4e.12714aed.27d8661d_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:42:37 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: [N64] The NGC poll Take the Waverace and 1080 poll: http://www.nintendo.com/home/features/teneightywaveracesurvey.html - -HJed [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:33:12 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day > "I love the PlayStation 2." > _____ > > > > I'd buy it if it were on the PlayStation 2. =) > Seriously folks, my money is set of Onimusha and Daytona USA. Besides, I > have yet to see the beginning of "A Clockwork Orange." Saw most of it, but > not the beginning. I wonder if it's available on DVD? > > ~~ Dave ~~ > Yeah A Clockwork Orange is on DVD and it rocks Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:48:14 -0500 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C0A769.750C02E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarkBastion@aol.com=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day <>=20 Yes, A Clockwork Orange is on DVD, and it's a great flick. Rent it = some time.=20 As for Onimusha: it's nothing that hasn't been done before, or better, = in the=20 RE gams. Dave, do your self a favor: rent Onimusha and Conker and see = which=20 one you like better.=20 ~Matt=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- There's just one problem. I've had my heart set on Onimusha for a long = time, back when it was going to be an N64 game. And now it's almost = here. And renting disc based games is a no no around here, always they = have scratches on them. Makes me want to vomit. Tahoma. So I'll probably = end up buying Onimusha (in a desperate need to validate my PS2 purchase) = and renting Conker. That is, if I can pull myself away from playing = Daytona USA and Phantasy Star Online online.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "sad side soda vatic juicy greet kitbag rot teethe tote huts."=20 Treytable@sega.net AIM: Super Trey Bros - ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C0A769.750C02E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DarkBastion@aol.com
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 = 11:35=20 PM
Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a = Bad Fur=20 Day

<<I'd buy it if it were on the PlayStation = 2.=20 =3D)=20
Seriously folks, my money is set of Onimusha and = Daytona=20 USA. Besides, I have
yet to see the beginning of "A Clockwork = Orange." Saw=20 most of it, but not the
beginning. I wonder if it's available on=20 DVD?=20
 
~~ Dave ~~>>

Yes, A Clockwork = Orange is on=20 DVD, and it's a great flick. Rent it some time.
As for Onimusha: = it's=20 nothing that hasn't been done before, or better, in the
RE gams. = Dave, do=20 your self a favor: rent Onimusha and Conker and see which
one you = like=20 better.

~Matt=20
 
There's just one problem. I've had my = heart set on=20 Onimusha for a long time, back when it was going to be an N64 game. And = now it's=20 almost here. And renting disc based games is a no no around here, always = they=20 have scratches on them. Makes me want to vomit. Tahoma. So I'll probably = end up=20 buying Onimusha (in a desperate need to validate my PS2 purchase) and = renting=20 Conker. That is, if I can pull myself away from playing Daytona USA and = Phantasy=20 Star Online online.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"sad side=20 soda vatic juicy greet kitbag rot teethe tote huts."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Super Trey=20 Bros
- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C0A769.750C02E0-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:53:22 EST From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] Missed Conker - --part1_91.7de6ecc.27d87852_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 03/07/2001 7:44:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20 distorbanz@yucom.be writes: > maybe it'll cheer you guys up a bit knowing there are people (read: ME) wh= o=20 > have to wait another month before they can get it > april 11=20 > would be nice if you told me about it (NO SPOILERS please, I'm sorry about= =20 > lord of the rings, jeremy) when you get your hands on it > you know just some first impressions > =20 > Steve >=20 Without spoilers, all I can say is that the gameplay mechanics work extremel= y=20 well. This one has classic platformer feel written all over it. And, I kno= w=20 they said these guys had some sick minds, but.... D*MN!! I won't say=20 anything, but you haven't seen the best from the internet. There is so much= =20 I wasn't expecting. Tip: when it comes out in the UK, GET THIS GAME!!! - -Eric- =E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare tara Kotaete ageru ga yo no nasake Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku Lovely charmy na kataki yaku Musashi! Kojiro! Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari niwa White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D Rocket Dan- Pocket Monsters - --part1_91.7de6ecc.27d87852_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 03/07/= 2001 7:44:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20
distorbanz@yucom.be writes:


maybe it'll cheer you guys=20= up a bit knowing there are people (read: ME) who=20
have to wait another month before they can get it
april 11
would be nice if you told me about it (NO SPOILERS please, I= 'm sorry about=20
lord of the rings, jeremy) when you get your hands on it
you know just some first impressions
=20
Steve


Without spoilers, all I can say is that the gameplay mechanics work extr= emely=20
well.  This one has classic platformer feel written all over it. &n= bsp;And, I know=20
they said these guys had some sick minds, but.... D*MN!!  I won't s= ay=20
anything, but you haven't seen the best from the internet.  There i= s so much=20
I wasn't expecting.  Tip: when it comes out in the UK, GET THIS GAM= E!!!
-Eric-

=E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare tara
Kotaete ageru ga yo no nasake
Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame
Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame
Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku
Lovely charmy na kataki yaku
Musashi!
Kojiro!
Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari niwa
White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze
Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D

Rocket Dan- Pocket Monsters - --part1_91.7de6ecc.27d87852_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:49:07 +1100 From: "Moody, Luke" Subject: RE: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day > > There's just one problem. I've had my heart set on Onimusha for a long > time, back when it was going to be an N64 game. And now it's almost here. > And renting disc based games is a no no around here, always they have > scratches on them. Makes me want to vomit. Tahoma. So I'll probably end up > buying Onimusha (in a desperate need to validate my PS2 purchase) and > renting Conker. That is, if I can pull myself away from playing Daytona > USA and Phantasy Star Online online. > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > Dude, Daytona games IMO are crap. Round and round and round..... wheres the challenge? Why do you like them? Do you go to them? Luke ********************************************************************** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ********************************************************************** [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:02:48 EST From: Nutz4n64@aol.com Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day - --part1_c.123e5792.27d87a88_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 03/07/2001 4:03:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 DarkBastion@aol.com writes: > All in all, the game plays great, looks great, sounds great, and is funny=20= as=20 > hell. Pick it up ASAP.=20 >=20 Short review: it's the game South Park tried to be, but failed. - -Eric- =E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare tara Kotaete ageru ga yo no nasake Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku Lovely charmy na kataki yaku Musashi! Kojiro! Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari niwa White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D Rocket Dan- Pocket Monsters - --part1_c.123e5792.27d87a88_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 03/07/= 2001 4:03:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20
DarkBastion@aol.com writes:


All in all, the game plays=20= great, looks great, sounds great, and is funny as=20
hell. Pick it up ASAP.=20


Short review: it's the game South Park tried to be, but failed.
-Eric-

=E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare tara
Kotaete ageru ga yo no nasake
Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame
Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame
Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku
Lovely charmy na kataki yaku
Musashi!
Kojiro!
Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari niwa
White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze
Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D

Rocket Dan- Pocket Monsters - --part1_c.123e5792.27d87a88_boundary-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:09:32 -0500 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day - ----- Original Message ----- From: Moody, Luke To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: RE: [N64] I'm having a Bad Fur Day > Dude, Daytona games IMO are crap. Round and round and round..... > wheres the challenge? > Why do you like them? > Do you go to them? > > Luke I like to race. I still play the original on the Saturn from time to time. I can't wait for better than arcade perfect with internet play. ~~ Dave ~~ "sad side soda vatic juicy greet kitbag rot teethe tote huts." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Super Trey Bros [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:13:51 +0100 From: "Steve" Subject: Re: [N64] Missed Conker, x-box roms This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A80C.4B03FB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's already been taken care of :) some other news in the contrary distOrbz me very much: you get the cube early (september, that's not the disturbing part) and = we get it spring 2002!!!=20 that's still more than a year!!! and that's more than 1,5 year after the PS2 if this gets official on E3 nintendo will die in europe, and i will not = buy the system Steve ps: chances are that illegal and cheap roms of cube games will be made = for x-box they say it's format can't be cracked; I give it two weeks, just like = the n64 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nutz4n64@aol.com=20 To: n64@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [N64] Missed Conker Tip: when it comes out in the UK, GET THIS GAME!!!=20 -Eric-=20 =E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare tara=20 Kotaete ageru ga yo no nasake=20 Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame=20 Sekai no heiwa o mamoru tame=20 Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku=20 Lovely charmy na kataki yaku=20 Musashi!=20 Kojiro!=20 Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari niwa=20 White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze=20 Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D=20 Rocket Dan- Pocket Monsters=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A80C.4B03FB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's already been taken care of :)
some other news in the contrary distOrbz me very much:
you get the cube early (september, that's not the disturbing part) = and we=20 get it spring 2002!!!
that's still more than a year!!!
and that's more than 1,5 year after the PS2
if this gets official on E3 nintendo will die in europe, and i will = not buy=20 the system
 
Steve
 
ps: chances are that illegal and cheap roms of cube games will be = made for=20 x-box
they say it's format can't be cracked; I give it two weeks, just = like the=20 n64

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nutz4n64@aol.com=20
To: n64@lists.xmission.com
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 = 6:53=20 AM
Subject: Re: [N64] Missed = Conker

  Tip: when it comes = out in the UK,=20 GET THIS GAME!!!
-Eric-

=E2=80=9CNanda kanda to kikare = tara
Kotaete=20 ageru ga yo no nasake
Sekai no hakai o fusegu tame
Sekai no = heiwa o=20 mamoru tame
Ai to shinjitu no aku o turanuku
Lovely charmy na = kataki=20 yaku
Musashi!
Kojiro!
Ginga o kakeru Rocket dan no futari = niwa=20
White hole, shiroi ashita ga matteruze
Nya-nte na!=E2=80=9D =

Rocket=20 Dan- Pocket Monsters - ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0A80C.4B03FB80-- [ To quit the n64 mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe n64" ] [ (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of n64-digest V1 #1454 ************************** [ To quit the n64-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe n64-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]