From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1544 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1544 Re: [NG] e3 Re: [NG] Online games Re: [NG] my guess is $250 for ps2 by end of year. Re: [NG] system sellers Re: [NG] A Nintendo Fan Re: [NG] AOL es el diablo. Re: [NG] foam GameCube Re: [NG] foam GameCube Re: [NG] import gamecube ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:15:18 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] e3 - --part1_30.1531dc6b.283c6926_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 7:25:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Devil929@aol.com writes: > > >> > > I did. > > You son of a *itch. Heh, did you have fun? How was SSB melee? - -Jed - --part1_30.1531dc6b.283c6926_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 7:25:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Devil929@aol.com
writes:



How many people went to e3 here?


I did.

-aldo



You son of a *itch.
Heh, did you have fun?
How was SSB melee?

-Jed - --part1_30.1531dc6b.283c6926_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:17:18 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Online games This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E304.94AFD6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Vi On=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Online games A monthly fee would be stupid. battle.net is free , theres = advertisements although most of the ads are their own games. Gamespy, mplayer, The Zone are all free servers that let people play online. I think Gamecube's online play would be free. -Vi - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Minus the cost of an ISP (and the damn game) all of the online games on = Dreamcast cost nothing to play. If SEGA can afford that strategy, I = think Nintendo can. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E304.94AFD6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Vi On
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Online = games


A monthly fee would be stupid.  battle.net is = free ,=20 theres advertisements
although most of the ads are their own=20 games.

Gamespy, mplayer, The Zone are all free servers that let = people=20 play
online.  I think Gamecube's online play would be=20 free.

-Vi

 
Minus the cost of an ISP (and the damn = game) all of=20 the online games on Dreamcast cost nothing to play. If SEGA can afford = that=20 strategy, I think Nintendo can.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E304.94AFD6E0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:17:18 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] my guess is $250 for ps2 by end of year. - --part1_60.ea56e30.283c699e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 7:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dextersy@home.com writes: > Deep pockets can only subsidize so much. Sony isn't in the business of > subsidizing your game purchases. they are in the business of making a > profit. subsidizing a console means big looses that will have to be made > up later. and more losses you incur, the smaller window for profitability > you have. Afterall, in 4 years, we'd be hearing about the ps3 > -- > Dexter S. > Speaking of gaming consoles after GCN, PS2 and XBOX, It's hard to see gaming being as exciting and E3 will just seem less interesting. This has probably been the most exciting E3 that I WILL ever see(from the web that is) - -Jed - --part1_60.ea56e30.283c699e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 7:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dextersy@home.com writes:


Deep pockets can only subsidize so much.  Sony isn't in the business of
subsidizing your game purchases. they are in the business of making a
profit.  subsidizing a console means big looses that will have to be made
up later.  and more losses you incur, the smaller window for profitability
you have.  Afterall, in 4 years, we'd be hearing about the ps3
 --
Dexter S.



Speaking of gaming consoles after GCN, PS2 and XBOX, It's hard to see gaming
being as exciting and E3 will just seem less interesting.
This has probably been the most exciting E3 that I WILL ever see(from the web
that is)

-Jed - --part1_60.ea56e30.283c699e_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:21:07 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] system sellers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0E305.1D3C3300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarkBastion@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [NG] A Nintendo Fan In a message dated 5/22/01 5:32:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 MA@legacypartners.com writes:=20 However, nobody, Nintendo or otherwise, has ever produced a car = racing game=20 that can even come close to touching the realism and depth of Gran = Turismo.=20 And I highly doubt that anyone else ever will. Sony deserves huge = praise=20 and credit for putting together a design team that is passionate = about=20 videogames *and* cars. Gran Turismo was the killer app that made = many=20 people buy a PS1 (including me), and GT3 will be the same for PS2 (I = will=20 probably get a PS2, when the price goes down *and* GT3 comes out).=20 The other reason PS2 has it's place and will do well: RPGs. Nintendo = will=20 have Zelda, and...? PS2 will likely follow in PS1's footsteps, with = dozens=20 of quality RPGs (plus Metal Gear Solid 2).=20 matt ma Matt ma? Didn't I used to get in fights with you at ANT? Hehe, man was = that=20 crap lame.=20 Anyway, I don't think GT was a system seller. Sure, it might have sold = a few=20 systems, and it certainly did sell many copies to the installed PSX = user=20 base, but I really don't think too many people bought a PSX for GT. I = see a=20 system seller as something like Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, = etc. I=20 think GT was too hyper-realistic to get many casual gamers to buy a = system=20 over.=20 ~Matt=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- But Gran Turismo did get hardcore car enthusiasts who wouldn't be = interested in a game console otherwise to buy a Play Station. My brother = who could care less about Super Mario or Final Fantasy whatever bought a = PSX and Gran Turismo after he saw an ad for it in Car & Driver. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0E305.1D3C3300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DarkBastion@aol.com
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] A Nintendo = Fan

In a = message dated=20 5/22/01 5:32:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
MA@legacypartners.com = writes:=20


However, nobody, Nintendo or otherwise, has ever = produced a car=20 racing game
that can even come close to touching the realism and = depth=20 of Gran Turismo.
And I highly doubt that anyone else ever will. = Sony=20 deserves huge praise
and credit for putting together a design = team that=20 is passionate about
videogames *and* cars. Gran Turismo was the = killer=20 app that made many
people buy a PS1 (including me), and GT3 will = be the=20 same for PS2 (I will
probably get a PS2, when the price goes = down *and*=20 GT3 comes out).

The other reason PS2 has it's place and will = do=20 well: RPGs. Nintendo will
have Zelda, and...? PS2 will likely = follow in=20 PS1's footsteps, with dozens
of quality RPGs (plus Metal Gear = Solid 2).=20

matt ma

Matt ma? Didn't I used to get in = fights=20 with you at ANT? Hehe, man was that
crap lame.

Anyway, I = don't=20 think GT was a system seller. Sure, it might have sold a few =
systems, and=20 it certainly did sell many copies to the installed PSX user
base, = but I=20 really don't think too many people bought a PSX for GT. I see a =
system=20 seller as something like Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, etc. I =
think=20 GT was too hyper-realistic to get many casual gamers to buy a system =
over.=20

~Matt=20
 
But Gran Turismo did get hardcore car = enthusiasts=20 who wouldn't be interested in a game console otherwise to buy a Play = Station. My=20 brother who could care less about Super Mario or Final Fantasy whatever = bought a=20 PSX and Gran Turismo after he saw an ad for it in Car & = Driver.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0E305.1D3C3300-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:24:34 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] A Nintendo Fan This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0E305.98E41540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [NG] A Nintendo Fan I hate sims like GT3. If I want to go and drive my car, I'll go out = and drive it regardless. When I play racing games I like the ones with = the cartoony graphics, the crazy off-the-wall items and the multiplaying = fun factor of a 10. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Must be nice to have a garage full of 150 street legal Racing type cars. = So when did you play Gran Tursimo 3? It's not due out until July 11th, = or did you go to E3? ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0E305.98E41540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don = Fentie=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] A Nintendo = Fan

I hate sims like GT3.  If I want to go and drive = my car,=20 I'll go out and
drive it regardless.  When I play racing games = I like=20 the ones with the
cartoony graphics, the crazy off-the-wall items = and the=20 multiplaying fun
factor of a 10.
 
Must be nice to have a garage full of = 150 street=20 legal Racing type cars. So when did you play Gran Tursimo 3? It's not = due out=20 until July 11th, or did you go to E3?
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0E305.98E41540-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:26:48 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] AOL es el diablo. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0E305.E8ABF8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarkBastion@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: [NG] AOL es el diablo. God damn AOL is gonna cost $23.50 a month now. Sega.net, here I come = ...=20 ~Matt=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- I wonder, can you still get the $150 sign on bonus, or would it be $100 = now?=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0E305.E8ABF8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DarkBastion@aol.com
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 3:45 PM
Subject: [NG] AOL es el = diablo.

God damn = AOL is gonna=20 cost $23.50 a month now. Sega.net, here I come ... =

~Matt=20
 
I wonder, can you still get the $150 = sign on bonus,=20 or would it be $100 now?
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C0E305.E8ABF8E0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:27:49 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] foam GameCube This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C0E306.0D0AE2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: geoff wuehrmann=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: [NG] foam GameCube Does anyone know where I can get one of the foam GameCube's form e3? I = want=20 one really badly but the only place I can find it is on ebay. Does = anyone=20 know any place besides ebay to get one? Is anyone willing to sell me = one? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Hey, I want one too.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C0E306.0D0AE2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 geoff=20 wuehrmann
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 4:06 PM
Subject: [NG] foam = GameCube

Does anyone know where I can get one of the foam = GameCube's=20 form e3? I want
one really badly but the only place I can find it = is on=20 ebay. Does anyone
know any place besides ebay to get one? Is = anyone=20 willing to sell me one?


 
Hey, I want one too.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C0E306.0D0AE2A0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:31:24 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] foam GameCube This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E306.8D0CA920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Devil929@aol.com=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [NG] foam GameCube In a message dated 5/22/01 3:06:49 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 kentop3@hotmail.com writes: << Does anyone know where I can get one of the foam GameCube's form = e3? I=20 want=20 one really badly but the only place I can find it is on ebay. Does = anyone=20 know any place besides ebay to get one? Is anyone willing to sell me = one? >> The only extra I have is for Mike from Tendo Box as he was unable to = attend=20 E3. Sorry=3D( - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Hey! I was unable to attend E3 too, where's mine? ;-) I'll trade you a Saturn with Panzer Dragoon Saga for it. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E306.8D0CA920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Devil929@aol.com=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] foam = GameCube

In a message dated 5/22/01 3:06:49 PM Central Daylight = Time,=20
kentop3@hotmail.com=20 writes:

<< Does anyone know where I can get one of the = foam=20 GameCube's form e3? I
want
 one really badly but the only = place I=20 can find it is on ebay. Does anyone
 know any place besides = ebay to=20 get one? Is anyone willing to sell me one? >>

The only = extra I=20 have is for Mike from Tendo Box as he was unable to attend
E3.=20 Sorry=3D(

 
Hey! I was unable to attend E3 too, = where's mine?=20 ;-)
 
I'll trade you a Saturn with Panzer = Dragoon Saga=20 for it.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
- ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E306.8D0CA920-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:34:55 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] import gamecube This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C0E307.0B200D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Vi On=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [NG] import gamecube > No, I'm gonna wait a few months after the November 4/5 release. Or = I'll get=20 > it November 19, my birthday;-) > you people with jobs, I envy you. >=20 > -Jed You people without jobs, I envy you. Once you get a job, you can't = stop. well you can but then you don't get used to having no money and having = big loans to pay off at the same time. I'm gonna get the wireless gamecube controller. Looks cool, i always wanted wireless controllers. the past wireless ones are just crap. = The wireless FM technology has got alot better nowadays. you don't even = need to point the controller at the receiver. -Vi - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- You people with jobs but not with big loans I envy you. I also envy = those whose names are short for SEGA arcade games. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 "Being poor really sucks arse." Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01C0E307.0B200D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Vi On
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] import = gamecube



> No, I'm gonna wait a few months after the = November=20 4/5 release. Or I'll get
> it November 19, my = birthday;-)
> you=20 people with jobs, I envy you.
>
> -Jed


You = people=20 without jobs, I envy you.  Once you get a job, you can't = stop.
well=20 you can but then you don't get used to having no money and having = big
loans=20 to pay off at the same time.

I'm gonna get the wireless = gamecube=20 controller.  Looks cool, i always
wanted wireless = controllers. =20 the past wireless ones are just crap.  The
wireless FM = technology has=20 got alot better nowadays.  you don't even need
to point the = controller=20 at the receiver.

-Vi


 
You people with jobs but not with big = loans I envy=20 you. I also envy those whose names are short for SEGA arcade = games.
 
~~ Dave ~~
    =
"Being poor=20 really sucks arse."
 Treytable@sega.net
 AIM: = Trey=20 Table
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