From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1572 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Friday, June 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1572 Re: [NG] New Contest Re: [NG] WinCE Re: [NG] the sad rhetoric of the fanboy Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] WinCE Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] Flipper Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:50:34 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] New Contest This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F032.C12C2260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Avery=20 To: NGamers ; Nintendo Mailing List=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [NG] New Contest A new contest has started on N-Games. EBgames.com is sponsoring the contest. We are giving away 5 games for N64. Check out http://www.n-games.com/contest.shtml for details and to enter the = contest. --=20 Chris Avery averyc@io.com=20 http://www.n-games.com/index.shtml - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- You know what would be even better? Stickers. I love stickers. You = should see my car. ;-) Or my PC. I think the only thing I don't put = stickers on are my consoles. And books, no stickers on books. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F032.C12C2260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Chris Avery =

To: NGamers ; Nintendo=20 Mailing List

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 12:05=20 PM

Subject: [NG] New Contest

A new contest has started on N-Games. EBgames.com = is=20 sponsoring the
contest. We are giving away 5 games for = N64. =20 Check out
http://www.n-games.com/cont= est.shtml=20 for details and to enter the contest.

--
Chris Avery
averyc@io.com
http://www.n-games.com/index.= shtml

You know what would be even better? = Stickers. I=20 love stickers. You should see my car. ;-) Or my PC. I think the only = thing I=20 don't put stickers on are my consoles. And books, no stickers on=20 books.

~~ Dave ~~
=
Segma=20 dogmattagram fishmarket stew
Police in the corner gunnin' for=20 you
Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat
Laugh when the shoot = you
Say,=20 "Please don't do that!" -- Phish
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: = Trey=20 Table

- ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C0F032.C12C2260-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:54:48 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] WinCE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0F033.58AE7340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [NG] GCN specs are changed I'm talking about WinCE. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Ah, WinCE, the band of the Dreamcast load times. With the exception of = Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 the WinCE logo on the back of a = Dreamcast jewel case sends shivers up my spine. Long load times, bad = framerates, tons of draw-in. Developing a Dreamcast game with WinCE is = like giving yourself a 98% chance that the game will suck. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0F033.58AE7340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Don = Fentie=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 12:58=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] GCN specs are = changed

I'm talking about WinCE.

Ah, WinCE, the band of the Dreamcast = load times.=20 With the exception of Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 the WinCE logo = on the=20 back of a Dreamcast jewel case sends shivers up my spine. Long load = times, bad=20 framerates, tons of draw-in. Developing a Dreamcast game with WinCE is = like=20 giving yourself a 98% chance that the game will suck.

- ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C0F033.58AE7340-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:56:47 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] the sad rhetoric of the fanboy Who was it again that used 'that' quote on their C++ paper? Did that certain someone get credit for his/her quote? > Dave Rhodes wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nutz4n64@aol.com > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [NG] GCN specs meaningless (Chris Charla was > right) > > In a message dated 06/08/2001 10:07:21 AM Central Daylight > Time, > treytable@sega.net writes: > > > What strikes me as funny is all the people branding the > > X-Box as a PC in a > > box (console), so what that it has a Hard Drive, an Nvidia > > graphics card > > and an Intel CPU (that's the processor the processes > > stuff). But the > > Gamecube has an IBM CPU and an ATI graphics card, so why > > isn't it labeled a > > PC in a box? > > > > What people will say to try to justify what they already > > bought or plan to > > buy. > > > > Why doesn't anybody call the Dreamcast a PC in a box? It's > > the only > > currently console that has a modem standard issue, a > > mouse, and a keyboard, > > and the VGA adapter. Slap in Resident Evil 2 running on > > WinCE and that's a > > PC in a box if I ever saw one. =) > > > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > > > Well, that's just the sad rhetoric of the fanboy. C'mon, > Dave, do you > remember the stuff I used to say to justify not buying a > Dreamcast? > -Eric- > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > I don't remember what I had for dinner last night, how do you expect > me to remember that? The only ancient thing from this list that is > etched into my mind is somebody's quote. I'm not going to name names, > but I think we all know what I'm talking about. ;-) > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew > Police in the corner gunnin' for you > Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat > Laugh when the shoot you > Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish > Treytable@sega.net > AIM: Trey Table [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:48:46 EDT From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) - --part1_b9.f0c0df6.2852942e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/8/01 9:02:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, treytable@sega.net writes: > So i wonder, will the modem be standard issue? Or does everybody have the > wrong info? > > ~~ Dave ~~ > I like howstuffworks.com... Helped me with a few projects... - -Jed - --part1_b9.f0c0df6.2852942e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/8/01 9:02:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes:

So i wonder, will the modem be standard issue? Or does everybody have the
wrong info?

~~ Dave ~~

I like howstuffworks.com... Helped me with a few projects...

-Jed - --part1_b9.f0c0df6.2852942e_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:36:10 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] WinCE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Ah, WinCE, the band of the Dreamcast load times. With the exception of Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 the WinCE logo on the back of a Dreamcast jewel case sends shivers up my spine. Long load times, bad framerates, tons of draw-in. Developing a Dreamcast game with WinCE is like giving yourself a 98% chance that the game will suck. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - The difference between Xbox and DC as far as WinCE is concerned is that WinCE had to be loaded from the disc each time on the DC and it is stored in fast ROM for the Xbox. Quite a huge difference in boot time.... But it still doesn't beat that 3 second boot the Gamecube has. :) Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) > Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think the Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't include the 56K Modem? No, most consoles start out at $200 dollars price range these days > Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"? I think it's a network card. "Network Interface card" Allows you to connect to cable/dsl. > Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something like a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked together for Gran Turismo 3? With a network card, which is built into the Xbox, you would be able to connect many consoles together. Yes I think gamecube should do something like that but it seems Nintendo is really behind on the online technology. I could be wrong... - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:41:24 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rhodes" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think the Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't include the 56K Modem? Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"? Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something like a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked together for Gran Turismo 3? ~~ Dave ~~ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Actually, I guess it wouldn't ship at a cheaper price because modems are so simple these days. But then wrapping the Gamecube modem in a nice friendly plastic snap-on design adds more to the cost of production than the internal parts so who knows? nic device. ethernet adapter. broadband adapter. whatever... but dont call it a modem because that's one thing it is not. If the er, broadband adapter worked like the one MS has designed for Xbox then Gamecube could do that, but I don't think that's how Nintendo has designed it. It would be nifty though. As I said earlier today, there's two things I wish Nintendo would take from the Xbox: 9ft controller cables and internal standard ethernet support which would be useful for both LAN gaming and broadband. The rest, MS can keep. Geoff Taylor - ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:43:16 -0500 From: "E. Jefferson" Subject: Re: [NG] Flipper - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dave Rhodes" Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com To: Subject: Re: [NG] Flipper Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:41:13 -0400 ArtX was it that designed Flipper? ~~ Dave ~~ - -------------------------------------------------- Yep. They were a seperate company for a while before ATI bought them. Elliot _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:28:05 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Unless there is someway to make online gaming with consouls free (if you have your own lan connection) then I can't see it going too far. I don't know too many people that would subscribe to some monthly fee. Vi On wrote: > > > Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think the Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't include the 56K Modem? > > No, most consoles start out at $200 dollars price range these days > > > Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"? > > I think it's a network card. "Network Interface card" > Allows you to connect to cable/dsl. > > > Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something like a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked together for Gran Turismo 3? > > With a network card, which is built into the Xbox, you would > be able to connect many consoles together. Yes I think gamecube should do > something like that but it seems Nintendo is really behind on the online > technology. I could be wrong... > > -Vi > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:58:33 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F04D.03C89940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Geoff Taylor=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rhodes" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) = - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- -- Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think = the Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't = include the 56K Modem? Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"? Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something = like a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked together for Gran Turismo 3? ~~ Dave ~~ = - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- -- Actually, I guess it wouldn't ship at a cheaper price because modems = are so simple these days. But then wrapping the Gamecube modem in a nice = friendly plastic snap-on design adds more to the cost of production than the = internal parts so who knows? nic device. ethernet adapter. broadband adapter. whatever... but = dont call it a modem because that's one thing it is not. If the er, = broadband adapter worked like the one MS has designed for Xbox then Gamecube = could do that, but I don't think that's how Nintendo has designed it. It would = be nifty though. As I said earlier today, there's two things I wish = Nintendo would take from the Xbox: 9ft controller cables and internal standard ethernet support which would be useful for both LAN gaming and = broadband. The rest, MS can keep. Geoff Taylor ------------- GameBoy Station http://www.gbstation.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- And leave us who have no access to broadband still playing with our = Dreamcast?=20 I still think the 56K modem should be standard issue and have the = broadband adapter be an extra for those who need it. Or do what Sony is = doing for the PlayStation 2, have both the 56K modem and the "nic = device" all in one unit.=20 ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F04D.03C89940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Geoff=20 Taylor

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube = Modem=20 (again)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Rhodes" = <treytable@sega.net>
To: = <NGamers@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Friday, June 08, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem=20 = (again)

------------------------------------------------------= - ----------------------
--

Not=20 to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think=20 the
Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it = didn't=20 include
the 56K Modem?

Secondly, what the hell is a "nic=20 device"?

Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have = something=20 on the
Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for=20 something like a
LAN setup, or more closely, like how six = PlayStation 2s=20 can be hooked
together for Gran Turismo 3?

~~ Dave=20 = ~~

---------------------------------------------------------------= - -------------
--

Actually,=20 I guess it wouldn't ship at a cheaper price because modems are = so
simple=20 these days. But then wrapping the Gamecube modem in a nice=20 friendly
plastic snap-on design adds more to the cost of production = than=20 the internal
parts so who knows?

nic device. ethernet=20 adapter. broadband adapter. whatever... but dont
call = it a=20 modem because that's one thing it is not. If the er,=20 broadband
adapter worked like the one MS has designed for Xbox then = Gamecube could do
that, but I don't think that's how Nintendo has = designed=20 it. It would be
nifty though. As I said earlier today, = there's=20 two things I wish Nintendo
would take from the Xbox: 9ft = controller=20 cables and internal standard
ethernet support which would be useful = for=20 both LAN gaming and broadband.
The rest, MS can = keep.

Geoff=20 Taylor
-------------
GameBoy Station
http://www.gbstation.com

And leave us who have no access to = broadband still=20 playing with our Dreamcast?

I still think the 56K modem should be = standard=20 issue and have the broadband adapter be an extra for those who need it. = Or do=20 what Sony is doing for the PlayStation 2, have both the 56K modem and = the "nic=20 device" all in one unit.

- ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0F04D.03C89940-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:00:48 -0400 From: "Dave Rhodes" Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0F04D.5430B480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Fentie=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) Unless there is someway to make online gaming with consouls free (if = you have your own lan connection) then I can't see it going too far. I don't know too many people that would subscribe to some monthly fee. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- You're right about that, I sure as hell ain't paying for the privilege = to play Phantasy Star Online Version 2 if SEGA decides to have a monthly = fee for the game. And, of course, if there is a monthly fee I sure as = hell ain't even buying PSO Ver. 2. ~~ Dave ~~ =20 Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew Police in the corner gunnin' for you Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat Laugh when the shoot you Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish Treytable@sega.net AIM: Trey Table - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0F04D.5430B480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Don = Fentie=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 = 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube = Modem=20 (again)

Unless there is someway to make online gaming with = consouls=20 free (if you
have your own lan connection) then I can't see it = going too=20 far. I
don't know too many people that would subscribe to = some=20 monthly fee.

You're right about that, I sure as hell = ain't=20 paying for the privilege to play Phantasy Star Online Version 2 if SEGA = decides=20 to have a monthly fee for the game. And, of course, if there is a = monthly fee I=20 sure as hell ain't even buying PSO Ver. 2.

- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0F04D.5430B480-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:59:50 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Gamecube Modem (again) - --part1_124.8f2f7.2852b2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/8/01 3:45:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, treytable@sega.net writes: > Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think the > Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't > include the 56K Modem? > > Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"? > > Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the > Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something like > a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked > together for Gran Turismo 3? > > ~~ Dave ~~ > > Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew > Police in the corner gunnin' for you > Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat > Laugh when the shoot you > Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish > Treytable@sega.net > AIM: Trey Table > Funny, I was just on the shitter and was reading Next Gen's review of GT3 and thought Nintendo should most definitely have one of those multi-system iLinks. I mean, if Nintendo is making a "pure" game machine, then they should realize they need to include multiplayer gaming in all forms, from online to multi-console. I will be so pissed if I can't play PSO v 2.0 with Dreamcast owners ... ~Matt "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - - Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945, after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New Mexico. - --part1_124.8f2f7.2852b2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/8/01 3:45:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
treytable@sega.net writes:

Not to start a Dexter/Stryder style shouting match, but do you think the
Dreamcast would have launched at a price less than $200 if it didn't
include the 56K Modem?

Secondly, what the hell is a "nic device"?

Lastly, does anybody think that Nintendo should have something on the
Gamecube where you could hook multiple systems together for something like
a LAN setup, or more closely, like how six PlayStation 2s can be hooked
together for Gran Turismo 3?

~~ Dave ~~

Segma dogmattagram fishmarket stew
Police in the corner gunnin' for you
Appletoast bedheated furblanket rat
Laugh when the shoot you
Say, "Please don't do that!" -- Phish
Treytable@sega.net
AIM: Trey Table

Funny, I was just on the shitter and was reading Next Gen's review of GT3 and
thought Nintendo should most definitely have one of those multi-system
iLinks. I mean, if Nintendo is making a "pure" game machine, then they should
realize they need to include multiplayer gaming in all forms, from online to
multi-console. I will be so pissed if I can't play PSO v 2.0 with Dreamcast
owners ...

~Matt

"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

- Robert Oppenheimer, quoting Hinduism's Behagavad Gita, on July 16, 1945,
after the first successful detonation of an atomic bomb in Trinity, New
Mexico. - --part1_124.8f2f7.2852b2e6_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1572 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]