From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1730 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Tuesday, November 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1730 Re: [NG] The situation as it is [NG] No more off topic please Re: [NG] No more off topic please Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is Re: [NG] The situation as it is Re: [NG] No more off topic please Re: Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is Re: [NG] The situation as it is Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) [NG] Waverace is HARD Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:33:18 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1719E.0154F140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eric C=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is >From: Rick Sharer >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:29:06 -0600 > >DarkBastion@aol.com wrote: > > > Amen. > > > > I hope that Xbox, at the very least, makes a hard drive and a = built in > > modem standard issue for all future consoles. > >I agree with the modem, but I vote no on the hard drive. > >RS > > > Out of curiosity, does the hard drive eliminate the need for memory = cards? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Yes and No. On the XBOX you don't need to buy a memory card, you can = save your progress directly to the HD, but you can buy memory cards if = you want to take a save to another location, or, I assume, if you fill = up the HD with too much music by Air Supply.=20 ** Sanrio ** "I am the king of... no pants!." -- Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1719E.0154F140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Eric=20 C

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2001 2:36=20 AM

Subject: Re: [NG] The situation = as it=20 is

>From: Rick Sharer <rlsharer@yahoo.com>
>Repl= y-To:=20 NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>To:=20 NGamers@lists.xmission.com=
>Subject:=20 Re: [NG] The situation as it is
>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:29:06 = -0600
>
>DarkBastion@aol.com=20 wrote:
>
> > Amen.
> >
> > I hope = that Xbox,=20 at the very least, makes a hard drive and a built in
> > = modem=20 standard issue for all future consoles.
>
>I agree with = the modem,=20 but I vote no on the hard=20 drive.
>
>RS
>
>
>
Out of curiosity, = does the=20 hard drive eliminate the need for memory cards?

Yes and No. On the XBOX you = don't need to=20 buy a memory card, you can save your progress directly to the HD, but = you can=20 buy memory cards if you want to take a save to another location, or, I = assume,=20 if you fill up the HD with too much music by Air Supply.

** Sanrio **

"I am the king of... no = pants!." -- Penny=20 Arcade
http://w= ww.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20
Sanrio@velocity.net
Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio

- ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1719E.0154F140-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:48:12 -0500 (EST) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] No more off topic please Please end the off topic emails about school and college. Lets continue playing your gamecube. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:29:20 -0500 From: Dave Subject: Re: [NG] No more off topic please > > Please end the off topic emails about school and college. > > Lets continue playing your gamecube. > > -Vi > > Yes, but can your Gamecube go online? Ha ha haha. I'm online right now with the Dreamcast. This mouse is really nice. Dave [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:36:48 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is >From: "Dave" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:31:21 -0500 > > > > >People say I'm smart, quite frankly, I don't believe them. > >** Sanrio ** > Heh, I'm the same way. Told one girl in my Greek Culture class (the subject of next semester's schedules came up) that I got everything I wanted except for MATH 285. She says, "Math 285? Are you a genious?" My answer was just a simple no. I get it all the time too. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:41:09 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is >From: "Dave" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:33:18 -0500 > > > > >Yes and No. On the XBOX you don't need to buy a memory card, you can save >your progress directly to the HD, but you can buy memory cards if you want >to take a save to another location, or, I assume, if you fill up the HD >with too much music by Air Supply. > >** Sanrio ** > Seems like a pretty useful thing, then. Kinda turns a CD based system into an N64. ;-) Only thing I'd worry about is the possibility of the cost being driven up by something like that. The whole DVD thing on the PS2 is part of the reason I still don't have one. Still, after an entire year, costs $300!! I mean, at launch, it's at least understandable, but for a year old system? Uh uh. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:41:58 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] No more off topic please >From: Vi On >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] No more off topic please >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:48:12 -0500 (EST) > > >Please end the off topic emails about school and college. > >Lets continue playing your gamecube. > >-Vi > > Good idea. I won't reply anymore. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:49:07 -0500 From: Dave Subject: Re: Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is > >From: "Dave" > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [NG] OT The situation as it is > >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:31:21 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >People say I'm smart, quite frankly, I don't believe them. > > > >** Sanrio ** > > > > Heh, I'm the same way. Told one girl in my Greek Culture class (the subject > of next semester's schedules came up) that I got everything I wanted except > for MATH 285. She says, "Math 285? Are you a genious?" My answer was just > a simple no. I get it all the time too. > -Satoshi You should get a spell checker, or was that a bit of masked sarcasm? ** Dave ** (still on the Dreamcast) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:23:25 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is - --Boundary_(ID_cmiOSur6IvyqLpklDeyc3w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I think it is interesting how he got a higher mark in French than he did English. lol But no, I took school in saskatchewan and we never had to take moral or geography and stuff. We had physics, chemistry, biology, math, english, french, etc. Wez wrote: > > >> >> History, I love it. >> I got my report card today(my birthday) >> Here's my summary: >> >> Bilogy: 79 >> Gym: 85(wtf, I do the best=) ) >> ITT: 65(could have gotten 85, last paper handed in too late) >> Math: 76 >> Geography: 86 >> Word processing: 78 >> Moral: 52 >> English: 70 >> French: 80 >> >> Average: 76 >> >> -Jed >> > > You crazy Canadians and your bass ackward schools. What happened to > letter grades? And that's a pretty poor average Jed...you should > spend less time with video games and study more. Ha! > > Wez - --Boundary_(ID_cmiOSur6IvyqLpklDeyc3w) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I think it is interesting how he got a higher mark in French than he did English. lol

But no, I took school in saskatchewan and we never had to take moral or geography and stuff. We had physics, chemistry, biology, math, english, french, etc.

Wez wrote:

History, I love it.
I got my report card today(my birthday)
Here's my summary:
Bilogy: 79
Gym: 85(wtf, I do the best=) )
ITT: 65(could have gotten 85, last paper handed in too late)
Math: 76
Geography: 86
Word processing: 78
Moral: 52
English: 70
French: 80
Average: 76
-Jed

You crazy Canadians and your bass ackward schools. What happened to letter grades? And that's a pretty poor average Jed...you should spend less time with video games and study more. Ha!
Wez

- --Boundary_(ID_cmiOSur6IvyqLpklDeyc3w)-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:21:42 -0600 From: Don Fentie Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) - --Boundary_(ID_Y2Te6mr/EcWb8WgIDuZa2g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey rick, i found your stats on that list. It tells me what your name is (Joshua), where you live, your zip code, your house address, your email address, how you responded... but on this particular list your credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the person who made this list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably a list in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info. Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/18/01 5:59:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > thraxen@ipa.net writes: > > > >> I just saw this on the IGN boards. Some people are now wondering if >> this >> deal was real. Anyway, even if it is real, there is a major >> security issue. >> Check thislink here: >> >> http://www.zdmcirc.com/formcollect/ebxbegamfile.dat >> >> Apparently all the information you enter is PUBLIC. Credit card >> numbers, >> addresses....everything. If you signed up, see if you are onte list >> (it's a >> VERY long list). >> >> Stryder > > > > > Whta do we do with Dat files? Can you read them through explorer or > something? > > -Jed > ______________________________________________________________ > Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? > > A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to > eat. > > - --Boundary_(ID_Y2Te6mr/EcWb8WgIDuZa2g) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey rick, i found your stats on that list. It tells me what your name is (Joshua), where you live, your zip code, your house address, your email address, how you responded... but on this particular list your credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the person who made this list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably a list in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info.

Jedcross2@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 11/18/01 5:59:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes:

I just saw this on the IGN boards. Some people are now wondering if this
deal was real. Anyway, even if it is real, there is a major security issue.
Check thislink here:
http://www.zdmcirc.com/formcollect/ebxbegamfile.dat
Apparently all the information you enter is PUBLIC. Credit card numbers,
addresses....everything. If you signed up, see if you are onte list (it's a
VERY long list).
Stryder

Whta do we do with Dat files? Can you read them through explorer or something?
-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?
A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.

- --Boundary_(ID_Y2Te6mr/EcWb8WgIDuZa2g)-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:32 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Don Fentie wrote: > Hey rick, i found your stats on that list. It tells me what your name > is (Joshua), where you live, your zip code, your house address, your > email address, how you responded... but on this particular list your > credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the person who > made this list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably a > list in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info. The commas are probably there because I didn't enter any credit card info. :) But wasn't that a Ziff-Davis website? So it shouldn't be a hoax...just unsecured data. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:49:03 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C171E3.428AEBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Don Fentie wrote: > Hey rick, i found your stats on that list. It tells me what your = name > is (Joshua), where you live, your zip code, your house address, your > email address, how you responded... but on this particular list your > credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the person = who > made this list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably a > list in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info. The commas are probably there because I didn't enter any credit card info. :) But wasn't that a Ziff-Davis website? So it shouldn't be a = hoax...just unsecured data. RS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- So who is Joshua Sharer? ** Sanrio ** "I am the king of... no pants!." -- Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C171E3.428AEBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Rick = Sharer=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2001 4:12=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 = year=20 (warning)

Don Fentie wrote:

> Hey rick, i found = your=20 stats on that list. It tells me what your name
> is = (Joshua),=20 where you live, your zip code, your house address, your
> email = address,=20 how you responded... but on this particular list your
> credit = card info=20 was replaced with commas. But I think the person who
> = made this=20 list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably = a
> list=20 in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info.

The = commas=20 are probably there because I didn't enter any credit = card
info. =20 :)

But wasn't that a Ziff-Davis website? So it shouldn't = be a=20 hoax...just
unsecured data.

RS

So who is Joshua=20 Sharer?

** Sanrio **

"I am the king of... no = pants!." -- Penny=20 Arcade
http://w= ww.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20
Sanrio@velocity.net
Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio

- ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C171E3.428AEBC0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:25:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: [NG] Waverace is HARD The learning curve for the turns around the buoys is high. Anybody having similar difficulties? lloyd [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:33:44 +0100 From: "Michael" Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C17213.69BB1D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Don Fentie wrote: > Hey rick, i found your stats on that list. It tells me what your = name > is (Joshua), where you live, your zip code, your house address, = your > email address, how you responded... but on this particular list = your > credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the person = who > made this list just did that for demo purposes. There is probably = a > list in hackers hands without the blurped out credit card info. The commas are probably there because I didn't enter any credit card info. :) But wasn't that a Ziff-Davis website? So it shouldn't be a = hoax...just unsecured data. RS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- So who is Joshua Sharer? ** Sanrio ** Another unsolved riddle ? _MiC_ - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C17213.69BB1D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Dave

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2001 10:49=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 = year=20 (warning)

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Rick Sharer=20

To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, = 2001 4:12=20 PM

Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 = year=20 (warning)

Don Fentie wrote:

> Hey rick, i = found your=20 stats on that list. It tells me what your name
> is = (Joshua),=20 where you live, your zip code, your house address, your
> = email=20 address, how you responded... but on this particular list = your
>=20 credit card info was replaced with commas. But I think the = person=20 who
> made this list just did that for demo purposes. = There is=20 probably a
> list in hackers hands without the blurped out = credit card=20 info.

The commas are probably there because I didn't enter = any credit=20 card
info. :)

But wasn't that a Ziff-Davis = website? So=20 it shouldn't be a hoax...just
unsecured data.

RS

So who is Joshua=20 Sharer?

** Sanrio **

Another unsolved riddle ?

_MiC_

- ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C17213.69BB1D20-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:33:07 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Free EGM 1 year (warning) Dave wrote: > So who is Joshua Sharer? He's one of my split personalities. He *also* hates XBOX. But the little boogar does like the PS2. Go figure. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1730 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]