From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1734 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Wednesday, November 21 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1734 Re: [NG] HD Re: [NG] HD Re: [NG] Waverace is HARD Re: [NG] The situation as it is Re: [NG] The situation as it is Re: [NG] The situation as it is Re: [NG] HD [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA Re: [NG] THPS3 Re: [NG] modems Re: [NG] HD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:03:23 +0100 From: "Michael" Subject: Re: [NG] HD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C17273.C1B42A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [NG] HD Are you able to check how much space you have left on the hard drive?=20 -Jed >>>> =20 =20 Yes, it's divided into blocks. When you go to the dashboard (start-up = with no game) there is a memory management screen where you can check = memory cards and the HD. When you first get the system and check the HD = it says "50,000+ blocks" free. I've only made a few saves and it still = says 50,000+. I've been reading on the internet where people have = dumped a bunch of MP3s on the drive and it still says 50,000+....so I'm = really not sure how big these blocks are. =20 Stryder If one block is about the same like in the Playstation Memory Cards, = then 15 blocks will be 1MB and 50,000 blocks gonna be roundabout 3, 3 GB. =20 This is pretty much, nearly as much as a full DVD. But If I remember = correctly the space of the HD schould be a little higher, shouldn't it? Still two days until Silent Hill will arrive.. @Sanrio: What level of = difficulty would you suggest to choose ?( action & puzzle level) _MiC_ - ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C17273.C1B42A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 5:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] HD

Are you able to check how much space you have = left on the=20 hard drive?

-Jed >>>>
 
 
Yes, it's divided into = blocks.  When=20 you go to the dashboard (start-up with no game) there is a memory = management=20 screen where you can check memory cards and the HD.  When you = first get=20 the system and check the HD it says "50,000+ blocks" free.  I've = only=20 made a few saves and it still says 50,000+.  I've been reading on = the=20 internet where people have dumped a bunch of MP3s on the drive and it = still=20 says 50,000+....so I'm really not sure how big these blocks=20 are.
 
Stryder
 
If one block is about the = same like in=20 the Playstation Memory Cards, then 15 blocks will be=20 1MB
and 50,000 blocks gonna be = roundabout 3, 3=20 GB. 
This is pretty much, nearly as = much as a full=20 DVD. But If I remember correctly the space of the HD schould be a=20 little
higher, shouldn't = it?
 
Still two days until Silent Hill will arrive.. = @Sanrio: What=20 level of difficulty would you
suggest to choose ?( action & puzzle=20 level)
 
_MiC_
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C17273.C1B42A20-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:20:55 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] HD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1725D.0F2CBE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [NG] HD ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thraxen=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [NG] HD Are you able to check how much space you have left on the hard = drive?=20 -Jed >>>> =20 =20 Yes, it's divided into blocks. When you go to the dashboard = (start-up with no game) there is a memory management screen where you = can check memory cards and the HD. When you first get the system and = check the HD it says "50,000+ blocks" free. I've only made a few saves = and it still says 50,000+. I've been reading on the internet where = people have dumped a bunch of MP3s on the drive and it still says = 50,000+....so I'm really not sure how big these blocks are. =20 Stryder =20 If one block is about the same like in the Playstation Memory Cards, = then 15 blocks will be 1MB and 50,000 blocks gonna be roundabout 3, 3 GB. =20 This is pretty much, nearly as much as a full DVD. But If I remember = correctly the space of the HD schould be a little higher, shouldn't it? =20 Still two days until Silent Hill will arrive.. @Sanrio: What level of = difficulty would you suggest to choose ?( action & puzzle level) _MiC_ =20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Easy Action Level and Normal Puzzle Level. That's what I'm playing it = on. ** Sanrio ** "I am the king of... no pants!." -- Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1725D.0F2CBE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael =
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 4:03=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] HD

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thraxen
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 5:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] HD

Are you able to check how much space you have = left on the=20 hard drive?

-Jed >>>>
 
 
Yes, it's divided into = blocks.  When=20 you go to the dashboard (start-up with no game) there is a memory = management=20 screen where you can check memory cards and the HD.  When you = first get=20 the system and check the HD it says "50,000+ blocks" free.  = I've only=20 made a few saves and it still says 50,000+.  I've been reading = on the=20 internet where people have dumped a bunch of MP3s on the drive and = it still=20 says 50,000+....so I'm really not sure how big these blocks=20 are.
 
Stryder
 
If one block is about the = same like in=20 the Playstation Memory Cards, then 15 blocks will be=20 1MB
and 50,000 blocks gonna be = roundabout 3, 3=20 GB. 
This is pretty much, nearly as = much as a=20 full DVD. But If I remember correctly the space of the HD schould = be a=20 little
higher, shouldn't = it?
 
Still two days until Silent Hill will arrive.. = @Sanrio: What=20 level of difficulty would you
suggest to choose ?( action & puzzle=20 level)
 
_MiC_
 
 
 
Easy Action Level and Normal Puzzle = Level. That's=20 what I'm playing it on.
 
** Sanrio **
 
"I am the king of... no pants!." -- = Penny=20 Arcade
 http://w= ww.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1725D.0F2CBE00-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:52:14 -0500 From: "geoff wuehrmann" Subject: Re: [NG] Waverace is HARD Yeah, I got Tony hawk 3. >From: "Dave" >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: [NG] Waverace is HARD >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:18:45 -0500 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr. > To: Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr. > Cc: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:25 PM > Subject: [NG] Waverace is HARD > > > > The learning curve for the turns around the buoys is high. Anybody >having > similar difficulties? > > > lloyd > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >It's not a hard game, the control just sucks. If it was done by Shigeru >Miyamoto and not some people at NOA I'm sure there wouldn't be such a >problem. > >I wonder, has anybody gotten Crazy Taxi or Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 for >Gamecube? > >** Sanrio ** > > "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to >a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a >four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't >stand one bit of competition." > Sanrio@velocity.net > Drhodes_74@hotmail.com > AIM: Midnight Sanrio _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:24:47 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > No need to ask him, it's Rick... > -Jed Good grief, Jed...this coming from perhaps the most babbling, offtopic, immature poster in gaming history? Heh, I'm flattered. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:27:48 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: >> I'm not against a resident SAVE area, but a hard drive? Coupled >> with a >> modem there's too much potential for the Big Nasty Virus from the >> HACKERS out there...you know, the guys who grab credit card >> information? :) >> >> RS > > > It be neat if you could have an online account and store your saves > there don't you agree rick? Shouldn't we be only talkig about Nintendo > related stuff though? Well, Jed, this could possibly be where Nintendo is headed (or may be headed). A modem and a hard drive coupled together opens the door for tampering by the Bad Guys, no matter which system it is. But I'm sure that if you knew talking about this was on-topic, you probably would've dropped out of the conversation a while ago. :) RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:33:03 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is Thraxen wrote: > How is a virus going to do anything? The XBOX doesn't boot up off the HD > like a PC does nor does it install any games. Surely you aren't naive enough to think that it couldn't be done! Thanks for your virus history, but the world doesn't revolve around just you. Look at the virus history of the internet, and you'll see the potential for hacking and abuse. Whichever Game System uses both a modem and a hard drive, they need to make sure there are security measures to prevent such abuse...and even then someone always finds a way around it. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:38:30 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] HD Thraxen wrote: > OK, since we are discussing console HDs, here is a post fromt he IGN boards > in a debate about HDs in consoles....I thought it made some good points: It brings up some great positives for having a hard drive, true. But you said there was a debate, and I don't see you mention the down side, nor any argument that might refute it. And I think, at this point in time, the down side outweighs the positives...unless you stay off the internet, or don't suffer a hard drive crash. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: Vi On Subject: [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA Nintendo to ship 200,000 more gamecubes by this christmas http://library.northernlight.com/FA20011121840000145.html?cb=0&dx=1006&sc=0#doc woah, more gamecubes for everyone - -Vi www.northernlight.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:30:11 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] THPS3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17288.4375D900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: geoff wuehrmann=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [NG] Waverace is HARD Yeah, I got Tony hawk 3. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- So how is it? I mean like using that tiny D-Pad? Or pulling off a = revert, do you the Z Button for that? What about the face buttons, how = hard is it to get used to the odd design for the face buttons, if, I = assume you played THPS 1 or 2 on the Dreamcast or PSX? ** Sanrio ** "I am the king of... no pants!." -- Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17288.4375D900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 geoff=20 wuehrmann
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 9:52=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] Waverace is = HARD

Yeah, I got Tony hawk 3.


 
So how is it? I mean like = using that tiny=20 D-Pad? Or pulling off a revert, do you the Z Button for that? What about = the=20 face buttons, how hard is it to get used to the odd design for the face = buttons,=20 if, I assume you played THPS 1 or 2 on the Dreamcast or = PSX?
 
** Sanrio **
 
"I am the king of... no = pants!." -- Penny=20 Arcade
 http://w= ww.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=3D2001-06-06=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17288.4375D900-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:31:37 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] modems This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C17288.767851C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [NG] The situation as it is Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: >> I'm not against a resident SAVE area, but a hard drive? Coupled >> with a >> modem there's too much potential for the Big Nasty Virus from the >> HACKERS out there...you know, the guys who grab credit card >> information? :) >> >> RS > > > It be neat if you could have an online account and store your saves > there don't you agree rick? Shouldn't we be only talkig about = Nintendo > related stuff though? Well, Jed, this could possibly be where Nintendo is headed (or may be headed). A modem and a hard drive coupled together opens the door for tampering by the Bad Guys, no matter which system it is. But I'm sure that if you knew talking about this was on-topic, you probably = would've dropped out of the conversation a while ago. :) RS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- But what about just a modem?=20 I mean the Dreamcast has a modem and I was never 'hacked.' ** Sanrio ** "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C17288.767851C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rick = Sharer=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 10:27=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] The situation = as it=20 is



Jedcross2@aol.com = wrote:

>>=20 I'm not against a resident SAVE area, but a hard drive? =20 Coupled
>> with a
>> modem there's too much = potential for=20 the Big Nasty Virus from the
>> HACKERS out there...you know, = the=20 guys who grab credit card
>> information? =20 :)
>>
>> RS
>
>
> It be neat if = you could=20 have an online account and store your saves
> there don't you = agree=20 rick? Shouldn't we be only talkig about Nintendo
> related stuff = though?

Well, Jed, this could possibly be where Nintendo is = headed (or=20 may be
headed).  A modem and a hard drive coupled together = opens the=20 door for
tampering by the Bad Guys, no matter which system it = is.  But=20 I'm sure
that if you knew talking about this was on-topic, you = probably=20 would've
dropped out of the conversation a while ago. =20 :)

RS

 
But what about just a modem?=20
 
I mean the Dreamcast has a = modem and I=20 was never 'hacked.'
 
** Sanrio **
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C17288.767851C0-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:33:13 -0500 From: "Dave" Subject: Re: [NG] HD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C17288.AFF3E540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rick Sharer=20 To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [NG] HD Thraxen wrote: > OK, since we are discussing console HDs, here is a post fromt he IGN = boards > in a debate about HDs in consoles....I thought it made some good = points: It brings up some great positives for having a hard drive, true. But = you said there was a debate, and I don't see you mention the down side, nor any = argument that might refute it. And I think, at this point in time, the down = side outweighs the positives...unless you stay off the internet, or don't = suffer a hard drive crash. RS - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- I never had a hard drive crash, just programs on the hard drive that = crashed. What's a hard drive crash like? ** Sanrio ** "Microsoft Windows 9X'. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell = to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded = for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company = that can't stand one bit of competition."=20 Sanrio@velocity.net Drhodes_74@hotmail.com AIM: Midnight Sanrio - ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C17288.AFF3E540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rick = Sharer=20
To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, = 2001 10:38=20 AM
Subject: Re: [NG] HD

Thraxen wrote:

> OK, since we are discussing = console=20 HDs, here is a post fromt he IGN boards
> in a debate about HDs = in=20 consoles....I thought it made some good points:

It brings up = some great=20 positives for having a hard drive, true.  But you said
there = was a=20 debate, and I don't see you mention the down side, nor any = argument
that=20 might refute it.  And I think, at this point in time, the down=20 side
outweighs the positives...unless you stay off the internet, or = don't=20 suffer a
hard drive crash.

RS
 
I never had a hard drive = crash, just=20 programs on the hard drive that crashed. What's a hard drive crash=20 like?
 
** Sanrio **
 
 "Microsoft Windows 9X'. = A=20 thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to = an=20 eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit = microprocessor which=20 was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of = competition."=20
 Sanrio@velocity.net
 Drhodes_74@hotmail.com
&nbs= p;AIM:=20 Midnight Sanrio
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