From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1749 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Saturday, November 24 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1749 Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Re: [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Re: [NG] I hope the 1.5 GB capacity doesn't hurt Nintendo in the future Re: [NG] D-Pad Re: [NG] No more off topic please Re: [NG] I'm the King of.... Fighters! Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Re: [NG] Can viruses be sent to Xbox via online connection Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Re: [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:55:01 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Eric C wrote: > Fine, then you're an XBOX basher instead of a Nintendo fanboy. Doesn't > matter; both are equally bad. Hmmm....on the scale of Badness, where does that fit in with muggings, rapes, and/or stealing? :) RS XBOX basher Pride _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:56:22 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA - --------------087747F05642D03946D9AC71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jedcross2@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/23/01 1:31:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > > > >> So you decide who's lying on the message boards and who's not! What >> a great unbiased and objective way of determining the ratio of GC to >> XBOX crashes. I think I'll let you wallow in the pool of your own >> ignorance here. It's sad, but we're all pulling for ya... RS > > > > > Happily, I side with Stryder > Great! That makes us all happy. :) RS - --------------087747F05642D03946D9AC71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jedcross2@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/23/01 1:31:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:
 
 
So you decide who's lying on the message boards and who's not!  What a great unbiased and objective way of determining the ratio of GC to XBOX crashes. I think I'll let you wallow in the pool of your own ignorance here.  It's sad, but we're all pulling for ya... RS

 

Happily, I side with Stryder
 

Great!  That makes us all happy.  :)

RS
  - --------------087747F05642D03946D9AC71-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:11:39 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing Thraxen wrote:

Let's make this really simple so even you cen undestand it.
Even with the typos I can understand.  :)
Can you deny that there appears to be a bad batch of RL copies out there and
that people have experience far more crashes with RL than any other current
game? (if you can, your plain illiterate)
Can you read?  I've already posted here that I've seen a couple of people post that they froze up in RL.

A couple.  You try to make that sound as though the House of Nintendo is falling down.  When HUNDREDS of people reported XBOX crashes, you blew it off as "bashers".  You are biased, clearly...and clear to me that you are a biased fool.
 

Can you point me to any reports of repeated crashes for any XBOX games?
I already have.  If you have an account with Newsguy I can post the actual links, otherwise you wouldn't be able to access them and I'd be listening to you cry for two days how the links didn't work for you.

Your own link had posts where people were claiming that XBOX moderators were refusing to allow people to report their XBOX crashes.  Sure, there are people who are lying, but guess what Bright Eyes, they also lie about GC crashes as well.  Duh.

If you can't deny the first and can't do the second then you lose....because
those are the only two points I'm driving home.
The first was a strawman, the second is blatantly obvious if you can open your eyes to the prolific amount of posts all over the internet detailing specific XBOX crashes.  But you're blowing them off as "untrustworthy" reports, ergo they don't exist!  You're the Idiot.
 It's already quite clear
that your predictions of doom for XBOX software were utterly false
Stay tuned.  I'm already surprised that the Microsoft money marketing machine failed in their bid to outsell GameCube.  Really.  The XBOX failure is way ahead of schedule.  :)

Of course people on this list will be taking your side.  You're an oldtimer.  A buddy.  Kudos to them for their loyalty.  That only speaks volumes about Nintendo fans.  :)

I'm the Exception.

RS
  _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:56:20 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] I hope the 1.5 GB capacity doesn't hurt Nintendo in the future - --part1_11e.7e9335d.29312b34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 2:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes: > The cartridge was Nintendo's achilles heel in the previous war. I hope > the relatively meager capacity of the minidisc won't hurt Nintendo. > > > I have high hopes: Zelda and DK64 took dozens of hours to beat(a year > later I still haven't gotten around to beating K.Rool in DK64..lol) and > the games possessed huge levels all in 256MB cartridges. > > The danger is that the games of 2001-6 will require alot of space because > of new features but I don't think we'll see the same problems with GC > > > lloyd Um, no. They weren't 256 MB. They were 256Mb. There is a difference. N64 carts can only store a maximum of either 96 megs or 32 megs, I forget. Compare that to the Playstation Disks that store 650 MB each. Thats probably the biggest reason why Square went with Sony rather than Nintendo. If they were working with Nintendo, they would have had to be careful in selecting which elements to leave in and which ones to leave out. Tons of FMV would be gone, in fact there hardly would be any if you were using one cart. Like use Final Fantasy VII as an example. 3 PSX disks. That's quite a lot isn't it? that's like 650X3(a little less) - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_11e.7e9335d.29312b34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 2:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:


The cartridge was Nintendo's achilles heel in the previous war.  I hope
the relatively meager capacity of the minidisc won't hurt Nintendo.  


I have high hopes:  Zelda and DK64 took dozens of hours to beat(a year
later I still haven't gotten around to beating K.Rool in DK64..lol) and
the games possessed huge levels all in 256MB cartridges.

The danger is that the games of 2001-6 will require alot of space because
of new features but I don't think we'll see the same problems with GC


lloyd

Um, no. They weren't 256 MB. They were 256Mb. There is a difference.
N64 carts can only store a maximum of either 96 megs or 32 megs, I forget. Compare that to the Playstation Disks that store 650 MB each. Thats probably the biggest reason why Square went with Sony rather than Nintendo.

If they were working with Nintendo, they would have had to be careful in selecting which elements to leave in and which ones to leave out. Tons of FMV would be gone, in fact there hardly would be any if you were using one cart. Like use Final Fantasy VII as an example. 3 PSX disks. That's quite a lot isn't it? that's like 650X3(a little less)

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_11e.7e9335d.29312b34_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:57:21 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] D-Pad - --part1_120.79b43de.29312b71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:13:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes: > But then again there are some PSX games that play better with the D-Pad over > the analog stick, IMHO. Like for instance Sled Storm and the Tony Hawk > games. > > ** Sanrio ** > Tell me, is Sled Storm any good? It's cheap, so I'd like to get it. - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_120.79b43de.29312b71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:13:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes:


But then again there are some PSX games that play better with the D-Pad over the analog stick, IMHO. Like for instance Sled Storm and the Tony Hawk games.

** Sanrio **



Tell me, is Sled Storm any good? It's cheap, so I'd like to get it.

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_120.79b43de.29312b71_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:57:45 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] No more off topic please - --part1_c9.190de880.29312b89_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:13:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes: > > >> >> Neh, I'm getting Perfect Dark and Madden next week or something... >> >> -Jed >> > > What did you do to pull that off? > > ** Sanrio ** > Stryder, remember... - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_c9.190de880.29312b89_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:13:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes:




Neh, I'm getting Perfect Dark and Madden next week or something...

-Jed


What did you do to pull that off?

** Sanrio **



Stryder, remember...

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_c9.190de880.29312b89_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:59:02 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] I'm the King of.... Fighters! - --part1_167.467b35c.29312bd6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:21:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes: > Being a SEGA Fanboy, (which is OK since they're a third party developer) I > can say that I feel I can trust Stryder's word. I don't spend much time on > the IGN Boards, but I do spend much time on the GSCCC Boards, and like > Stryder said, it's real easy to tell who is truthful and who is dishing out > BS. > > ** Sanrio ** > People with bad vocabulary aren't trustworthy either. They say stuff like "da xbox is da graydest an it kicks ass i think its beter then gamecube" - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_167.467b35c.29312bd6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 8:21:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, sanrio@velocity.net writes:


Being a SEGA Fanboy, (which is OK since they're a third party developer) I can say that I feel I can trust Stryder's word. I don't spend much time on the IGN Boards, but I do spend much time on the GSCCC Boards, and like Stryder said, it's real easy to tell who is truthful and who is dishing out BS.

** Sanrio **



People with bad vocabulary aren't trustworthy either.
They say stuff like "da xbox is da graydest an it kicks ass i think its beter then gamecube"

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_167.467b35c.29312bd6_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:31:00 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing - --part1_a.1629bb1d.29313354_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:22:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes: > >Rick, did you know that Microsoft is planning to buy out Nintendo? > > > >-Jed > > I've heard something on that, but it was a fake report. At least the one I > saw was. > -Satoshi Yes, my report that I just said last email that you replied to right there. - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_a.1629bb1d.29313354_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:22:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes:


>Rick, did you know that Microsoft is planning to buy out Nintendo?
>
>-Jed

I've heard something on that, but it was a fake report.  At least the one I
saw was.
-Satoshi

Yes, my report that I just said last email that you replied to right there.

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_a.1629bb1d.29313354_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:30:58 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Can viruses be sent to Xbox via online connection - --part1_65.1e3eda1d.29313352_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:05:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes: > It won't matter. I bet it turns into another 64DD anyway. Even so, 1GB is > plenty for me, so I personally don't care. > -Satoshi Eric, 1 GB isn't much at all. Well, maybe it is for saving games... But if you want to store MP3 and stuff on the hard drive, its a different case. But computers are different if you just have 1 GB. The operating system(windows XP) uses more than 1 GB. But seriously, if the competition has more than 1 GB, why would Nintendo go and make a 1 GB? - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_65.1e3eda1d.29313352_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:05:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes:


It won't matter.  I bet it turns into another 64DD anyway.  Even so, 1GB is
plenty for me, so I personally don't care.
-Satoshi

Eric, 1 GB isn't much at all. Well, maybe it is for saving games...
But if you want to store MP3 and stuff on the hard drive, its a different case. But computers are different if you just have 1 GB. The operating system(windows XP) uses more than 1 GB. But seriously, if the competition has more than 1 GB, why would Nintendo go and make a 1 GB?

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_65.1e3eda1d.29313352_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:31:04 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing - --part1_138.5247f9b.29313358_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:38:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes: > >But then, I'd expect nothing less from a Microsoft Fanboy. > > > >RS > > > I still find it hard to believe that Rick can sit there and call Stryder a > fanboy. You need to get a new definition of the word "fanboy," Rick. > -Satoshi LMAO. Ricks a Fanboy. I just hope he checks out http://www.gamequbed.com - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_138.5247f9b.29313358_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 10:38:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, satoshi_gc@hotmail.com writes:


>But then, I'd expect nothing less from a Microsoft Fanboy.
>
>RS
>
I still find it hard to believe that Rick can sit there and call Stryder a
fanboy.  You need to get a new definition of the word "fanboy," Rick.
-Satoshi



LMAO. Ricks a Fanboy. I just hope he checks out http://www.gamequbed.com

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_138.5247f9b.29313358_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:31:07 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] My Gamecube crashed...also one other thing - --part1_31.1e3ac1a0.2931335b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 11:39:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes: > ROFLMAO! Referring to the kiosks again, eh? First, it wasn't > thousands...quit blowing things out of proportion and making sh*t up! > Second, I told you I wasn't worried that the retail units would have this > problem....and lo and behold, they don't have this problem. Get a clue, > Rick. Stryder > Or if you won't get a clue, go buy Clue for Super Nintendo. - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_31.1e3ac1a0.2931335b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 11:39:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, thraxen@ipa.net writes:


ROFLMAO!  Referring to the kiosks again, eh?  First, it wasn't thousands...quit blowing things out of proportion and making sh*t up! Second, I told you I wasn't worried that the retail units would have this problem....and lo and behold, they don't have this problem.  Get a clue, Rick. Stryder



Or if you won't get a clue, go buy Clue for Super Nintendo.

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


- --part1_31.1e3ac1a0.2931335b_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:31:14 EST From: Jedcross2@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] 200,000 more gamecubes in USA - --part1_b8.1ee2dc9e.29313362_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 11:58:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > Seriously, only you know the answer to that question. Like I said, with the > BIG BUCKS that Microsoft has shelled out on PR for the XBOX, and its past > history with consumers, I was expecting it to outsell the GameCube. When > reports showed the contrary, I was quite surprised. > > And should MS eventually sell more XBOX units than GC's, that still won't > change the fact that Nintendo is Quality-oriented, while MS is > Quantity-oriented. Always has been, always will be. > > RS > Um, didn't Nintendo ship more GameCubes than Microsoft shipped XBOXes? - -Jed ______________________________________________________________ Q: Why are there bugs in most computers? A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat. - --part1_b8.1ee2dc9e.29313362_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/01 11:58:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:


Seriously, only you know the answer to that question.  Like I said, with the
BIG BUCKS that Microsoft has shelled out on PR for the XBOX, and its past
history with consumers, I was expecting it to outsell the GameCube.  When
reports showed the contrary, I was quite surprised.

And should MS eventually sell more XBOX units than GC's, that still won't
change the fact that Nintendo is Quality-oriented, while MS is
Quantity-oriented.  Always has been, always will be.

RS



Um, didn't Nintendo ship more GameCubes than Microsoft shipped XBOXes?

-Jed
______________________________________________________________
Q: Why are there bugs in most computers?

A: They are attracted by the cookies and go in looking for a byte to eat.


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