From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1822 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Saturday, March 9 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1822 Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro Re: [NG] Square is back with Nintendo Re: [NG] Square is back with Nintendo Re: [NG] SSBM Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan [NG] nintendo over square Re: [NG] nintendo over square ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:43:18 -0800 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if Square stays away from > the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox is the new kid on the > block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to take chances with an > unproven player. > > lloyd One rule of the world, everything goes. :) The enemy hits you where you least expect it, and to establish something as off limits can often be the source of one's failure. Think of france and their maginot line and how the German army bypassed it and busted through the Ardens -- thought to be impassable by Panzer units. Now, is Square less likely to go to Xbox than GameCube? my gut feeling on this, and let me be upfront and say Xbox isn't my favorite console, is that Square is indeed less likely to go to Xbox. Sony view Microsoft as its #1 competitor. And would likely make a big fuss if Square tries to move into that direction. But that said, keep in mind that it doesn't exclude the possibility, but an educated guess would say that the probability of it happening is slim. Dex [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:01:18 EST From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? - --part1_ea.23e4b32c.29baf11e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/8/02 11:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes: > Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if Square stays away from > the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox is the new kid on the > block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to take chances with an > unproven player. > > > > lloyd I would think Square would develop for Xbox first, above the 'Cube. For one, it's easy as hell to make games for (not that the 'Cube isn't, but still). And two, most importantly of all, it's got the whole online thing covered with the HD and modem built in. It seems like a natural fit with Square and it's MMORPG future. ~Matt "Carrot Cake Soup is like the taste of watching girls make out." - Penny Arcade - --part1_ea.23e4b32c.29baf11e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/8/02 11:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes:


Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if Square stays away from
the Xbox.  My feeling is that it will since Xbox is the new kid on the
block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to take chances with an
unproven player.



lloyd


I would think Square would develop for Xbox first, above the 'Cube. For one, it's easy as hell to make games for (not that the 'Cube isn't, but still). And two, most importantly of all, it's got the whole online thing covered with the HD and modem built in. It seems like a natural fit with Square and it's MMORPG future.

~Matt

"Carrot Cake Soup is like the taste of watching girls make out."

- Penny Arcade
- --part1_ea.23e4b32c.29baf11e_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 23:48:32 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] Square and Xbox? >Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:26:00 -0500 (EST) > > >Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if Square stays away from >the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox is the new kid on the >block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to take chances with an >unproven player. > > > >lloyd > Yeah, that's why they stuck to developing with the N64 back in '97. ;) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:56:21 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro - --- Rick Sharer wrote: > > http://www.gamepro.com/index.html?/nintendo/domestic/games/news/21222.shtml > > RS > BOYCOTT GAMEPRO! ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:04:55 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Square is back with Nintendo - --- Vi On wrote: > > Square is back. This is good official news for GC > for a long while. > > http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=2747 > > Thanks god it's Friday!! > > -Vi Perhaps the long awaited Final Fantasy Mystic Quest II will come out. I wonder how many Gamecube DVDs it would take for Final Fantasy X? ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:12:28 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Square is back with Nintendo - --- Don Fentie wrote: > AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Square!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now can we expect to see even > more developers follow > suit? Hopefully Enix will make me happy with a Gamecube Act Rasier 3. Did anybody know that Illusion of Gaia for the Super NES is really Soul Blazer 2? Here's hoping for Chrono Break for the Gamecube. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:22:19 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] SSBM - --- "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > Have you played the Homerun Challenge yet? > > > lloyd > > sx Oh yeah. Got 600+ feet with Bowser last night. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:24:40 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? - --- "Dexter S." wrote: > > > "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > > > Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if > Square stays away from > > the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox > is the new kid on the > > block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to > take chances with an > > unproven player. > > > > lloyd > >> > But that said, keep in mind that it doesn't exclude > the possibility, but an > educated guess would say that the probability of it > happening is slim. > > Dex > > Doesn't one need an education first to make an educated guess? ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:01:05 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro Trey Table wrote: > --- Rick Sharer wrote: > > > > > http://www.gamepro.com/index.html?/nintendo/domestic/games/news/21222.shtml > > > > RS > > > > BOYCOTT GAMEPRO! Er, why, exactly? RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:00:23 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan =========================================================== Two big retailers suspend sales of Microsoft Xbox Saturday, March 9, 2002 at 10:00 JST TOKYO — Two major consumer electronics retailers based in Tokyo have suspended the sales of Microsoft Corp's Xbox game consoles after receiving complaints from consumers that they damage game disks, officials of the two companies said. Sakuraya Co suspended the sales Thursday, and LaOX Co did so Friday, the officials said. Both companies have no plans to restart the sales of the consoles but will continue sales of its software, the officials said. Sakuraya, which mainly serves the Tokyo area, withdrew the product from its stores after having to exchange or fix consoles a number of times at customers' request, its officials said. LaOX stopped the sales at its roughly 110 outlets nationwide, its officials said. The Japanese unit of the U.S. software giant, Microsoft Co, said it has received 588 complaints or inquiries about scratches on game disks as of Wednesday. Microsoft said it has no comment about the suspension of the sales of the Xbox consoles at the two retailers. Xbox, Microsoft's first home-use game console, was put on sale in Japan on Feb 22 following its debut in the United States and Canada last November. Microsoft has touted Xbox — with its graphics, built-in hard disk drive and broadband Internet capabilities — as the home Internet terminal of the future. More than 1.5 million units have been sold in North America since November. Xbox sells for 34,800 yen, more than its major competitors. The Sony PlayStation2 costs 29,800 yen, and the Nintendo Co GameCube 25,000 yen. (Kyodo News) ==================================== Whoever it was on this list that said that it was just happening in Japan, that appears to be correct. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:17:11 -0600 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? - ----- Original Message ----- From: DarkBastion@aol.com To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? In a message dated 3/8/02 11:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes: Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if Square stays away from the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox is the new kid on the block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to take chances with an unproven player. lloyd I would think Square would develop for Xbox first, above the 'Cube. For one, it's easy as hell to make games for (not that the 'Cube isn't, but still). And two, most importantly of all, it's got the whole online thing covered with the HD and modem built in. It seems like a natural fit with Square and it's MMORPG future. ~Matt I was under the impression that Square wanted FFXI on all platforms. So, if that's the case.. "all platforms" would indeed include Xbox. I'd swear that I read somewhere that Square was also working on a PC version of FFXI, so how could they not have an Xbox version? I have no sources, not going to take the time to look, but I'd swear I remember reading that. But the question is whether or not Square will develop anything else (worth playing) for Xbox? Or for that matter, Gamecube. Just having Square on Gamecube isn't really all that special. If Square releases FFXII and whatever else decent they have in the works (Chrono Break!) for Gamecube, then I'll be pleased. Geoff [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:31:39 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro - --- Rick Sharer wrote: > Trey Table wrote: > > > --- Rick Sharer wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.gamepro.com/index.html?/nintendo/domestic/games/news/21222.shtml > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > BOYCOTT GAMEPRO! > > Er, why, exactly? > > RS > Companies routinely (sp?) pay off Game Pro for good reviews. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:35:59 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan - --- Rick Sharer wrote: > =========================================================== > Two big retailers suspend sales of Microsoft Xbox > > Saturday, March 9, 2002 at 10:00 JST > > TOKYO — Two major consumer electronics retailers > based in Tokyo have suspended > the sales of > Microsoft Corp's Xbox game consoles after > receiving complaints from consumers > that they damage game disks, officials of the two > companies said. > > Sakuraya Co suspended the sales Thursday, and > LaOX Co did so Friday, the > officials said. Both > companies have no plans to restart the sales of > the consoles but will continue > sales of its software, the > officials said. > > Sakuraya, which mainly serves the Tokyo area, > withdrew the product from its > stores after having to > exchange or fix consoles a number of times at > customers' request, its officials > said. > > LaOX stopped the sales at its roughly 110 outlets > nationwide, its officials > said. > > The Japanese unit of the U.S. software giant, > Microsoft Co, said it has > received 588 complaints or > inquiries about scratches on game disks as of > Wednesday. > > Microsoft said it has no comment about the > suspension of the sales of the Xbox > consoles at the two > retailers. > > Xbox, Microsoft's first home-use game console, > was put on sale in Japan on Feb > 22 following its debut in > the United States and Canada last November. > > Microsoft has touted Xbox — with its graphics, > built-in hard disk drive and > broadband Internet > capabilities — as the home Internet terminal of > the future. More than 1.5 > million units have been sold in > North America since November. > > Xbox sells for 34,800 yen, more than its major > competitors. The Sony > PlayStation2 costs 29,800 yen, and > the Nintendo Co GameCube 25,000 yen. (Kyodo News) > > ==================================== > > Whoever it was on this list that said that it was > just happening in Japan, that > appears to be correct. > > RS I'm betting it's those tansparent XBOXes. I dunno. My XBOX doesn't scratch any of my discs I own or have rented. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:42:05 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Interview with Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto - Gamepro Trey Table wrote: > > Companies routinely (sp?) pay off Game Pro for good > reviews. Oh! Then boycott Electronics Boutique! Heh. Anyway, the link is just another interview with Miyamoto, and he answers some good questions...such as will Link's face change on Celda! Heh. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? - --- Geoff Taylor wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DarkBastion@aol.com > To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: [NG] Square and Xbox? > > > In a message dated 3/8/02 11:27:24 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu writes: > > > > Nintendo can consider it an even bigger victory if > Square stays away from > the Xbox. My feeling is that it will since Xbox is > the new kid on the > block and even a cash hungry Square won't want to > take chances with an > unproven player. > > > > lloyd > > > I would think Square would develop for Xbox first, > above the 'Cube. For one, > it's easy as hell to make games for (not that the > 'Cube isn't, but still). > And two, most importantly of all, it's got the whole > online thing covered > with the HD and modem built in. It seems like a > natural fit with Square and > it's MMORPG future. > > ~Matt > > I was under the impression that Square wanted FFXI > on all platforms. So, if > that's the case.. "all platforms" would indeed > include Xbox. I'd swear that > I read somewhere that Square was also working on a > PC version of FFXI, so > how could they not have an Xbox version? I have no > sources, not going to > take the time to look, but I'd swear I remember > reading that. But the > question is whether or not Square will develop > anything else (worth playing) > for Xbox? Or for that matter, Gamecube. Just > having Square on Gamecube > isn't really all that special. If Square releases > FFXII and whatever else > decent they have in the works (Chrono Break!) for > Gamecube, then I'll be > pleased. > > Geoff > I'm sure it will be Final Fantasy Mystic Quest II: Mystic Pizza. I'm certain of it. ;-) They couldn't port FFX to the Gamecube since it would need to be reprogrammed for multiple discs, and that would prolly cost more money than it's worth. And Final Fantasy XI wouldn't do well on the Gamecube since Nintendo has no plans for a Hard Drive, which it needs according to Sony and Square. So I think that the best possible thing that you might see on the Gamecube could be a updated version of Final Fantasy VII - Final Fantasy IX, that could work. For the Game Boy Advance I'm betting there will be ports of the first three Final Fantasy games that were on the Wonder Swan Color. Just my guess. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:46:01 -0600 From: Rick Sharer Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Trey Table wrote: > I'm betting it's those tansparent XBOXes. I dunno. My > XBOX doesn't scratch any of my discs I own or have > rented. If there ever was even a glimmer of hope for XBOX in Japan, thanks to this latest fiasco, accompanied with Square joining Nintendo, that hope is now long gone...these two events have just dealt MS its Japanese Death Blow. RS _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan - --- Rick Sharer wrote: > Trey Table wrote: > > > I'm betting it's those tansparent XBOXes. I dunno. > My > > XBOX doesn't scratch any of my discs I own or have > > rented. > > If there ever was even a glimmer of hope for XBOX in > Japan, thanks to > this latest fiasco, accompanied with Square joining > Nintendo, that hope > is now long gone...these two events have just dealt > MS its Japanese > Death Blow. > > RS I hardly call it a death blow. I mean what about the great FamiCom recall of 1983? That was much worse than this minor incident. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:12:57 -0600 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan >From: Rick Sharer >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in >Japan >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:46:01 -0600 > > >If there ever was even a glimmer of hope for XBOX in Japan, thanks to >this latest fiasco, accompanied with Square joining Nintendo, that hope >is now long gone...these two events have just dealt MS its Japanese >Death Blow. > >RS > I can see that being true for the Square thing (unless they're secretly developing for XB), but not so sure about the disc one. I mean, Famicom had to be called back in 1983, if I'm not mistaken, and we all know how that turned out. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:37:09 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan > Whoever it was on this list that said that it was just happening in Japan, that > appears to be correct. > > RS From what I have been reading, MS got a faulty batch of drives from one of their suppliers. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:44:44 -0600 From: Thraxen Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan > If there ever was even a glimmer of hope for XBOX in Japan, thanks to > this latest fiasco, accompanied with Square joining Nintendo, that hope > is now long gone...these two events have just dealt MS its Japanese > Death Blow. > > RS A death blow from a couple hundred faulty drives which make scratches on discs in a location that doesn't damage the games and MS is fixing free of charge and a FF game made by a Square "affiliate"? Hmmm... OK. Sure. It's been understood from the start that the Asian market would be a tough uphill battle. This is hardly cause for MS to throw in the towel. Stryder [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:15:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan Does the Xbox need the Japanese market to survive? > > If there ever was even a glimmer of hope for XBOX in Japan, thanks to > this latest fiasco, accompanied with Square joining Nintendo, that hope > is now long gone...these two events have just dealt MS its Japanese > Death Blow. > > RS > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] Correction on scratched disks...appears to just be in Japan - --- "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > Does the Xbox need the Japanese market to survive? > `Although some may disagree with me, I'd say no. There are plenty of American and European software companies that really like the XBOX. And just if, if the XBOX didn't do well in Japan, does anybody really think that all Japanese companies would stop supporting the system? ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:50:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: [NG] nintendo over square Does it seem like Sony is the king of gimmicks? The company that will attract the soulless, popcorn quality, by-the-numbers games? Even though Nintendo isn't perfect I still love em and won't leave them. This list is straying away from a Nintendo board(towards a multi-platform one) so I though I'd give Nintendo a little boost. :) lloyd [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Trey Table Subject: Re: [NG] nintendo over square - --- "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > > Does it seem like Sony is the king of gimmicks? The > company that will > attract the soulless, popcorn quality, > by-the-numbers games? Even though > Nintendo isn't perfect I still love em and won't > leave them. > > Funny how then the best selling game of 2001 is on the PS2. You can't deny the greatness of Grand Theft Auto 3. Something you'd never see on a Nintendo console. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity (insert witty sig. here) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! 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