From: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com (NGamers-digest) To: ngamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: NGamers-digest V1 #1834 Reply-To: NGamers-digest Sender: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-NGamers-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk NGamers-digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1834 Re: [NG] gamespot.com Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] gamespot.com Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] Zelda Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:05:21 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] gamespot.com > > Honestly, I'd be really surprised if Metroid made it out this year. But, I > could be wrong about that. Yes, most of the IGN community is kinda down on > the GC. Guess how much I care. ;-) > -Satoshi > Metroid will make it out this year. Zelda is iffy, but Matt has said there's actually 2 GameCube Zeldas. One is Celda, the other one is likely an all-stars Zelda anthology on one disc. Here's to hoping they add in some behind the scenes videos on the making of the games ;) Dexter [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:06:26 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > Should I rent SMB 1? Is it a fun game? > > lm SMB1? You mean the one they re-released for Game Boy Color? If that's the game, I'd shame you publicly for even asking that question. Mr. "I've heard Episode 2's soundtrack" Dexter :-D [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Vi On Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr. wrote: > Should I rent SMB 1? Is it a fun game? > > It's a fun party game. Single player is a bit on the weak side. Although I did spend alot of time on single player mode only to unlock more multiplayer games. - -Vi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:00:44 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] gamespot.com >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: n64 >Subject: Re: [NG] gamespot.com >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:41:44 -0400 (EDT) > > Would you be surprised if Mario and Metroid are also delayed? We'll get >Fzero and StarFox this year but Metroid and especially Mario I am not so >sure about. The clips for both games have been sparse and I am not sure a >game that was just playable at E3(2002) will be released in just a few >months later. I hope I'm wrong! :-) > > > >lm > I'd say Metroid Prime is more likely to be delayed than Mario. I mean, this is the first Nintendo system that didn't launch with a Mario game. I think that Nintendo is likely to stick with the dates they've set for Mario Sunshine. Though, if Mario is delayed, I doubt it will be moved to next year. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:02:57 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:42:29 -0400 (EDT) > >Should I rent SMB 1? Is it a fun game? > > >lm > I thought it was the best launch game for the system, but there are people that disagree rather strongly to that. If you're easily frustrated, you may want to think twice about getting it. But, definitely give it a rental at least. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:06:22 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Zelda >From: "Dexter S." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] gamespot.com >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:05:21 -0700 > > >Metroid will make it out this year. Zelda is iffy, but Matt has said >there's >actually 2 GameCube Zeldas. One is Celda, the other one is likely an >all-stars Zelda anthology on one disc. > >Here's to hoping they add in some behind the scenes videos on the making of >the >games ;) > >Dexter > Never said I expected Zelda this year.... well, I don't. ;-) I must say, a Zelda all-stars would be excellent. It'd be especially cool if they put the N64 games on there, but that's probably stretching it considering MM was only released two years ago. - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:08:01 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC >From: "Dexter S." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:06:26 -0700 > > > >"Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > > > Should I rent SMB 1? Is it a fun game? > > > > lm > >SMB1? You mean the one they re-released for Game Boy Color? > >If that's the game, I'd shame you publicly for even asking that question. >Mr. "I've heard Episode 2's soundtrack" > >Dexter :-D > Look at the topic. He means Super Monkey Ball. That's why I don't use "SMB" for that game. ;-) - -Satoshi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:19:31 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC > > Look at the topic. He means Super Monkey Ball. That's why I don't use > "SMB" for that game. ;-) > -Satoshi > > ____________________ Ah i c. Thanks :) Dex [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube I know GD is only 5 yrs old but I wouldn't mind an "updated" version of that stellar game. Perhaps have the ability to jump down the big hole in the ground in the Temple level and maybe a couple of new levels. The reason why GD is so dear to me is that I love the environments and modern day setting. That is the main reason why I prefer it over PD which seemed to have everything GD had and so much more. Atmosphere and realism, I believe, is what made GD such a treasure. If not a Cube update then maybe Cube II. lloyd On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Eric C wrote: > >From: "Dexter S." > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: [NG] gamespot.com > >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:05:21 -0700 > > > > > >Metroid will make it out this year. Zelda is iffy, but Matt has said > >there's > >actually 2 GameCube Zeldas. One is Celda, the other one is likely an > >all-stars Zelda anthology on one disc. > > > >Here's to hoping they add in some behind the scenes videos on the making of > >the > >games ;) > > > >Dexter > > > Never said I expected Zelda this year.... well, I don't. ;-) > I must say, a Zelda all-stars would be excellent. It'd be especially cool > if they put the N64 games on there, but that's probably stretching it > considering MM was only released two years ago. > -Satoshi > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC Err, sorry about the mixup. lol It could mean Super Smash Bros as well. :) lloyd aka mr. 'i have heard the ep2 soundtrack' On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Dexter S. wrote: > > > > Look at the topic. He means Super Monkey Ball. That's why I don't use > > "SMB" for that game. ;-) > > -Satoshi > > > > ____________________ > > Ah i c. Thanks :) > > Dex > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:55:57 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Out of curiosity, though, why GD and not GE? Anyway, I'd like an updated version just for better framerate. Think of it: 10 enemies on the screen running at 60fps. Or is that unthinkable? - -Satoshi >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:16:39 -0400 (EDT) > > >I know GD is only 5 yrs old but I wouldn't mind an "updated" version of >that stellar game. Perhaps have the ability to jump down the big hole in >the ground in the Temple level and maybe a couple of new levels. The >reason why GD is so dear to me is that I love the environments and modern >day setting. That is the main reason why I prefer it over PD which seemed >to have everything GD had and so much more. Atmosphere and realism, I >believe, is what made GD such a treasure. If not a Cube update then maybe >Cube II. > > > >lloyd > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:56:45 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC How could SMB be the same as SSB? ;-) - -Satoshi >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: [NG] Super Monkey Ball 2 for GC >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:17:52 -0400 (EDT) > >Err, sorry about the mixup. lol > >It could mean Super Smash Bros as well. :) > > >lloyd aka mr. 'i have heard the ep2 soundtrack' > > > > >On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Dexter >S. wrote: > > > > > > > Look at the topic. He means Super Monkey Ball. That's why I don't >use > > > "SMB" for that game. ;-) > > > -Satoshi > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > Ah i c. Thanks :) > > > > Dex > > > > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > > > >sx > > >[ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Rhodes Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube - --- "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." wrote: > > I know GD is only 5 yrs old but I wouldn't mind an > "updated" version of > that stellar game. Perhaps have the ability to jump > down the big hole in > the ground in the Temple level and maybe a couple of > new levels. The > reason why GD is so dear to me is that I love the > environments and modern > day setting. That is the main reason why I prefer > it over PD which seemed > to have everything GD had and so much more. > Atmosphere and realism, I > believe, is what made GD such a treasure. If not a > Cube update then maybe > Cube II. > > > > lloyd Buy EA's Agent Under Fire then. That's about as close as you'll get, ever. ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity Felt like a bulldozer trying to catch a butterfly. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Sharer Subject: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? ==================================================== Sales tracking firm Media Create reports that in the first week of April (4/1 - 4/7), Microsoft sold an abysmal 2,179 units, a number that in and of itself is astonishingly low for a newly-released console system. But when you examine sales of some of the other hardware on the market, the news gets even worse. In the same week in April, Sony's seven-year old PS one platform sold 3,959 units. And get this--Sega's discontinued Dreamcast console even managed to outsell the Xbox with 3,427 units purchased by Japanese gamers. As for the other next-generation platforms, the PS2 and the GameCube sold 80,734 units and 15,068 units respectively. ==================================================== Find the whole article here: http://www.gamers.com/news/1132721 What I find interesting is that PS2 is selling so many more units than the Gamecube...is that because the big killer games have yet to appear? And that there is both quantity *and* quality games for the PS2 right now? I'd like to see GC approach PS2 sales figures once the new Mario, SFA, and Zelda games are released. But as I asked in the subject line, just how critical are Japan sales in the console wars? I'm pretty sure that they mean a lot more to Sony and Nintendo than they do to Microsoft....but can any manufacturer afford a dismal showing there? Another interesting bit in the article, which I was villified for ever daring to mention way back when: ================================================== Then there's the issue of faulty Xbox hardware in Japan. Though Microsoft isn't commenting publicly, some storeowners in Japan have revealed that Microsoft is carefully replacing potential faulty Xbox units before they are sold to consumers. Though this move, if announced publicly, could possibly help instill more faith in the Xbox name in Japan, Microsoft is reluctant to address the subject for fear of having the replacement labeled a recall. =================================================== RS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:40:47 -0500 From: "Eric C" Subject: Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? I don't think anyone would argue that doing well in the Japanese market doesn't give an advantage. Even if it doesn't mean stellar sales, it's definitely a worthwhile market. We've seen some pretty dismal sales with the N64, but they came back with Zelda, then Banjo-Kazooie, Pikachu Genki Dechu, and Smash Bros. However, the problem I'm seeing with the XBOX as far as these sales go is that if it does really poorly, are Japanese companies going to show a great deal of support for it. N64 third party was really shaky as it was, but it still had the Japanese appeal since it was a Japanese company. I'm wondering if american games are going to grab enough attention in that market to revive sales like Zelda did for the N64. Really, I don't see it happening. The only Japanese developer that seems to be supporting it much is SEGA, the main reason that I have any interest in XB, but I can't help but question their influence viewing the sales of the Dreamcast. Only thing I can say is that this does seem to hold a bit of promise for the GC. PS2 is THE system to own practically everywhere. Sony has such a huge influence on the market that all developers want to make a game for it. But there have also been reports that developers do not want Sony to become too monopolistic in the industry. With the market appeal, they could be gradually shifting support to the Gamecube. Remember, though, this is only my personal speculation. I don't know how accurate this is to what could realistically happen, but it's definitely possible. - -Satoshi >From: Rick Sharer >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:39:59 -0700 (PDT) > >==================================================== >Sales tracking firm Media Create reports that in the >first week of April (4/1 - 4/7), Microsoft sold an >abysmal 2,179 units, a number that in and of itself is >astonishingly low for a newly-released console system. > >But when you examine sales of some of the other >hardware on the market, the news gets even worse. In >the same week in April, Sony's seven-year old PS one >platform sold 3,959 units. And get this--Sega's >discontinued Dreamcast console even managed to outsell > >the Xbox with 3,427 units purchased by Japanese >gamers. As for the other next-generation platforms, >the PS2 and the GameCube sold 80,734 units and 15,068 >units respectively. >==================================================== > >Find the whole article here: > >http://www.gamers.com/news/1132721 > >What I find interesting is that PS2 is selling so many >more units than the Gamecube...is that because the big >killer games have yet to appear? And that there is >both quantity *and* quality games for the PS2 right >now? I'd like to see GC approach PS2 sales figures >once the new Mario, SFA, and Zelda games are released. > >But as I asked in the subject line, just how critical >are Japan sales in the console wars? I'm pretty sure >that they mean a lot more to Sony and Nintendo than >they do to Microsoft....but can any manufacturer >afford a dismal showing there? > >Another interesting bit in the article, which I was >villified for ever daring to mention way back when: > >================================================== > >Then there's the issue of faulty Xbox hardware in >Japan. Though Microsoft isn't commenting publicly, >some storeowners in Japan have revealed that Microsoft > >is carefully replacing potential faulty Xbox units >before they are sold to consumers. > >Though this move, if announced publicly, could >possibly help instill more faith in the Xbox name in >Japan, Microsoft is reluctant to address the subject >for fear of having the replacement labeled a recall. > >=================================================== > >RS > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >[ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] >[ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube LOL!!! I have always abbreviated Goldeneye that way. Weird! lloyd On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, Eric C wrote: > Out of curiosity, though, why GD and not GE? > > Anyway, I'd like an updated version just for better framerate. Think of it: > 10 enemies on the screen running at 60fps. Or is that unthinkable? > -Satoshi > > > >From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." > >Reply-To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >To: NGamers@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube > >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:16:39 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > >I know GD is only 5 yrs old but I wouldn't mind an "updated" version of > >that stellar game. Perhaps have the ability to jump down the big hole in > >the ground in the Temple level and maybe a couple of new levels. The > >reason why GD is so dear to me is that I love the environments and modern > >day setting. That is the main reason why I prefer it over PD which seemed > >to have everything GD had and so much more. Atmosphere and realism, I > >believe, is what made GD such a treasure. If not a Cube update then maybe > >Cube II. > > > > > > > >lloyd > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] > [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] > sx [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:18:15 -0500 From: "Geoff Taylor" Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube Okie, so what does the 'D' in 'GD' stand for? GolDeneye? Geoff - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Millard Mccoy Jr." To: Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube > LOL!!! I have always abbreviated Goldeneye that way. Weird! > > > lloyd > > > On Sun, 14 > Apr 2002, Eric C wrote: > > > Out of curiosity, though, why GD and not GE? > > > > Anyway, I'd like an updated version just for better framerate. Think of it: > > 10 enemies on the screen running at 60fps. Or is that unthinkable? > > -Satoshi [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:32:19 -0700 From: "Matt MA" Subject: Re: [NG] I'm ready for Goldeneye Cube >>> mccoyjr@Glue.umd.edu 04/14/02 06:16PM >>> >day setting. That is the main reason why I prefer it over PD which = seemed >to have everything GD had and so much more. Atmosphere and realism, I I thought I was crazy to prefer GE over PD, but now I know that others are = just as crazy as me. :) Even though PD had features galore, it never got = me as excited as GE did. GE had the best atmosphere - down to the great = music. A GameCube GE would be a killer app, IMO. Just take some of the PD = features and add it to the GE game, plus tweak the engine a bit (consistant= ly high framerate), and you'd have a system seller. Imagine GC GE with = these features: 2 player cooperative or competitive in "mission" mode Deathmatch using any of the single player levels Deathmatch CPU Bots (friendly and/or enemy) Using vehicles in Deathmatch levels (capture the tank, then use it on = your best buddy) matt ma [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:56:39 -0700 From: "Dexter S." Subject: Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? > Only thing I can say is that this does seem to hold a bit of promise for the > GC. PS2 is THE system to own practically everywhere. Sony has such a huge > influence on the market that all developers want to make a game for it. But > there have also been reports that developers do not want Sony to become too > monopolistic in the industry. With the market appeal, they could be > gradually shifting support to the Gamecube. > > Remember, though, this is only my personal speculation. I don't know how > accurate this is to what could realistically happen, but it's definitely > possible. > -Satoshi There were various reports of Capcom getting into trouble with Sony for releasing their 2-D games because Sony was somehow paranoid about having the PS seen by the public as an inferior 3-D machine. Namco, one of the staunchest and earliest supporter of Sony have suddenly gone into hybernation and it's difficult to tell what direction the company is heading. If we are to believe the rumours, the company seems to have found a new relationship with Nintendo. [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:36:12 EDT From: DarkBastion@aol.com Subject: Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? - --part1_a2.240cea0f.29eccbfc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/15/02 1:40:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes: > But as I asked in the subject line, just how critical > are Japan sales in the console wars? I'm pretty sure > that they mean a lot more to Sony and Nintendo than > they do to Microsoft....but can any manufacturer > afford a dismal showing there? > Now, I don't think so. The American and European markets are so huge, that a console can succeed elsewhere other than Japan and still do well. Obviously, though, Japanese success will get those Japanese companies to put more on a console, I guess ... - --part1_a2.240cea0f.29eccbfc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/15/02 1:40:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rlsharer@yahoo.com writes:


But as I asked in the subject line, just how critical
are Japan sales in the console wars?  I'm pretty sure
that they mean a lot more to Sony and Nintendo than
they do to Microsoft....but can any manufacturer
afford a dismal showing there?


Now, I don't think so. The American and European markets are so huge, that a console can succeed elsewhere other than Japan and still do well. Obviously, though, Japanese success will get those Japanese companies to put more on a console, I guess ... - --part1_a2.240cea0f.29eccbfc_boundary-- [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Rhodes Subject: Re: [NG] Are Sales in Japan all that crucial in the console wars? - --- "Dexter S." wrote: > > Only thing I can say is that this does seem to > hold a bit of promise for the > > GC. PS2 is THE system to own practically > everywhere. Sony has such a huge > > influence on the market that all developers want > to make a game for it. But > > there have also been reports that developers do > not want Sony to become too > > monopolistic in the industry. With the market > appeal, they could be > > gradually shifting support to the Gamecube. > > > > Remember, though, this is only my personal > speculation. I don't know how > > accurate this is to what could realistically > happen, but it's definitely > > possible. > > -Satoshi > > There were various reports of Capcom getting into > trouble with Sony for > releasing their 2-D games because Sony was somehow > paranoid about having the PS > seen by the public as an inferior 3-D machine. > Are you talking about the PS2 here, or back with the PSX when Capcom wanted to release Mega Man X4 stateside? Anyway, it's too late, I already see the PS2 an an inferior 3-D machine. I also see it as an inferior 2-D machine. ;-) > Namco, one of the staunchest and earliest supporter > of Sony have suddenly gone > into hybernation and it's difficult to tell what > direction the company is > heading. If we are to believe the rumours, the > company seems to have found a > new relationship with Nintendo. And that's why Tekken 4 is on what system again? ===== ** Dave ** super_trey_bros@yahoo.com AIM: Sanrio Velocity Felt like a bulldozer trying to catch a butterfly. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ [ To quit the NGamers mailing list, send the message "unsubscribe ] [ NGamers" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ] ------------------------------ End of NGamers-digest V1 #1834 ****************************** [ To quit the NGamers-digest mailing list (big mistake), send the message ] [ "unsubscribe NGamers-digest" (without the quotes) to majordomo@xmission.com ]