From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #108 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Friday, August 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 108 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:50:13 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on Hearing all of this (2 days worth), makes me wonder why I ever asked about MP3's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:14:32 +0200 From: "Silvio Rohloff" Subject: (orbital) MTV-Video Hi there! Have anyone seen the video "Belfast/Wasted" on MTV in the last weeks? Who´s the singer in this video? And what EP is this? And when comes the new album from Orbital? Thanks for answer! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:10:20 +0100 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: RE: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued I know what you are saying...and yes i can fully understand how easy it is to burn a copy of a hard-to-find cd to save the hard work of finding the damn thing (and paying good money for it). Tapes do get worn...but do they get warn that quickly ? Its hard for me to agree with anything like this...because i really really do feel summit for their work...i dunno why...i cant explain. I think we will have to agree to that we all have seperate views on this...and it really does depend on your feelings for the group itself. For example...If you take a cd copy of some old stuff...do you still try and find and buy the original ? I think most wouldnt bother...why should they after all...its money out of your pocket! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz >---------- >From: Mehul Parekh[SMTP:mpp001@hotmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 06, 1998 6:28 PM >To: Price, Steve A; orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Re: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued > >Steve: >Truly I understand how you feel about Orbital and so do I. But I love >Orbital. Most of my cd collection consists of Orbital. And I am always >trying to get more. But I dont have the old stuff. And if I cant get >it (which I cant) anymore then why is it wrong to get a cd copy from >someone? I mean, if I really like the songs, then the tape version will >become worn out very quickly. >It's just a way to finish a collection. I want to have the originals, >but dont we have to do with what we can get? > > The Mehul > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:26:36 +0100 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) RE: Official Release Bootlegs - continued >>I do also, as I said I am not at all for the idea of distibuting a cd to >>all of my friends and trading copies with outhers that would make me as >>bad as a software pirate. But to some degree everyone does it. I don't >>agree with putting out an entire cd of mp3's to download but whats wrong >>with tossing out a song or two. If the receiving person is there to take the mp3 and eval it...then there wouldnt be a problem. But I have been in the situation where i was given a mp3 of a track i needed to hear first...and thought - nah i wont buy it...ive got it...ill just dump it to cd (not orbital here...another group). Its wrong...even though i do do it...its wrong. I could have prevented a royalty to the artist...or some form of payment to the record company...which in turn could alter a pre-album payment to the artist in question for the next release...dramatic scenario...but if we are all doing this then it /could/ make an impact. So...yes...i am as guilty as the next man....when it comes to piracy of music and software.. The whole thread was to do with what Orbital thought...Paul has stated that he sees Cd piracy of official releases a bad thing...i cant really comment why He has this thought...but if your job was to make music...and your life was depend on the money from this...u may have a similar thought on the matter. >>the point I was getting off at that is be it tape or cd, its a copy. If >>somone gives everyone the copy of orbital on tape how diffrent is it to >>give it on cd? In these days. again...we dont have to do it...because its a fashionable thing...these days...people do do this. BUT...if its no different then from now on...have all your recordings on tape and dont bother burning the cds.... Maybe then...you will realise exactly what is different. At least if summit was on tape...you know by getting your money out and buying the official release CD you will have a quality mastererd recording...with no hiss! If you just see it as a copy...then please tape it...then go figure. >>Noone should ever support the redistributions of releases, boots I have my >>certain level of opinion on that I refuse to get into. I side with you, >>but at the same time I tried to shed light on why people think its oke to >>copy material thats protected by laws against it. Good question...dont have the answer to it...only know what i know and what people have expressed to me (mixed reactions). When Paul said what he said...he finished...i dont know why CD copying is different...i just dont think its right. I know that if i taped summit i wouldnt feel as bad as if i cd burnt it...and guess what...i dont know why either ;) Bootlegs as in official ones are in my eyes wrong.....Live bootlegs are in my eyes ok...no money loss for anyone there...as it aint released...confused...i am :))) Steve LOOPZ Price >Orbital Zine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:33:35 +0100 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) The Visit MP3 >Good point, and it reminds me of something I wanted to ask. Is "The Visit" >by Orbital available anywhere on CD? If not is it available (sorry Aimee) in >MP3? I have looked everywhere for it, I WANT to buy it. Thanks for any help. .Well I got it on mp3 ages back, I think it was from Loopz, but I could be .wrong. It might still be there. Its still there...not full version (of course)...2 seperate excerpts from the 20 + minute movements. Its on the AUDIO section on Loopz. www.hyperreal.org/loopz It wont be released EVER....btw Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:55:41 -0400 From: Kel Subject: (orbital) CD Buying Hey guys, just a quick question for everyone. My dad has recently been on my case about me and my music, cutting off my money and not letting me buy enough music as I'd like to now. There are maybe twenty artists on my list that I've heard about and that I'd like to have a taste of, not to mention all the music I already am into. he says buying one CD a month is "normal" and it is pissing me off to no end. Just wondering how many CDs per month most of you get, and what you might think is a normal number. Just curious. hope someone bothers to reply, KEL, the frustrated 16-year-old # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:47:21 -0400 From: Dave O'Connor Subject: Re: (orbital) CD Buying >not to mention all the music I already am into. he says buying one CD a >month is "normal" and it is pissing me off to no end. Just wondering how >many CDs per month most of you get, and what you might think is a normal >number. Just curious. hope someone bothers to reply, Depends on the month! I have ~300 CD's now, so my habits have ranged from 1-2 to 10+ a month. I hate to say this, because it's SUCH an annoying thing to say but: get a job. Scamming money is cool (I still do it and I'm 20) but you gotta work if you want to have real cash (especially the kind you can spend how you want to spend it) get a job, you're old enough. Good luck! - ------------------------------------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 Never trust a man in a blue trenchcoat Never drive a car when you're dead -Tom Waits # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:52:05 +0200 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) CD Buying >Hey guys, just a quick question for everyone. My dad has recently been >on my case about me and my music, cutting off my money and not letting >me buy enough music as I'd like to now. There are maybe twenty artists >on my list that I've heard about and that I'd like to have a taste of, >not to mention all the music I already am into. he says buying one CD a >month is "normal" and it is pissing me off to no end. Just wondering how >many CDs per month most of you get, and what you might think is a normal >number. Just curious. hope someone bothers to reply, > KEL, the frustrated 16-year-old living where i live, and working for getting myself into next year of college (financial aspect) I don't remember the last time that I actually got myself a CD. In fact, the last CD I got was a gift from a special someone I have overseas. It's all mp3 for me....and I have no remorse :) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "flock!" - ---8<------------------------ [ http://www.seven.hr/leqash ] [ if under 28.8 don't even think about it ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 23:13:51 -0700 From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on Hahahah!!!!!!! Just dont mention candyflipping or vinyl vs cd .MatthewFord. Chris Kloehr wrote: > > Hearing all of this (2 days worth), makes me wonder why I ever > asked about MP3's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:34:01 EDT From: Subject: (orbital) End of Copy Conversation We can end this tape vs CD conversation now. The simple truth is, although I never make compilations of stuff I don't already own, I would only do it on Mini Disc. Everyone thank Sony for promoting (inventing?) the great morphing or tapes and CDs. My question is, why the hell did they ever release CDs when MDs were invented only a short time after? As for the MP3s. Who cares. There are people who are so loaded with computer programs that they can probably take Real Audio and turn it into 44Mhz and burn it to CD. No one here is bringing up anythign mind blowing enough to change anyone else's opinion. I don't believe in MP3, but that is probably because I don't have a burner. But I'll tell you what. I love software piracy. I could never justify spending 600 dollars on Photoshop. However, I would gladly spend 6 dollars, or even 26 dollars to get, say, the Halcyon CD, even though I had it on MP3. Enough. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:56:15 +0000 From: Paul.French@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued- Devil's Advocate.. Guys, What about the poor people of the world that can't afford to go and buy all the CDs, getting them on MP3 or on Gold discs would be a cheap way for them to build up a music collection. I mean, people say that we are ripping people off by using the aforementiomed musical formats, but what about us, the music buying public, who are forced to pay the ridiculous sums of money that it costs to build up a decent collection. Most of the Orbital stuff, for example, where I go browsing is on import and that just encourages the shops to slap another small fortune onto the cover price..... Frenchie PS. I would appreciate it if someone could forward me an uptodate discography (preferably CD only) that Orbital have put out. Thanx. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 01:09:25 -0700 From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) End of Copy Conversation Spydercorp@aol.com wrote: > because I don't have a burner. But I'll tell you what. I love software piracy. > I could never justify spending 600 dollars on Photoshop. However, I would I agree mate. THREE CHEERS TO SOFTWARE PIRACY! Oh, um i mean, "hey! those programmers worked hard on that program!" heheh .MatthewFord. FUCK THE R.I.A.A.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:43:53 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on Dare I ask why not to mention candyflipping? Heaven forbid anyone have a problem with that...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:43:11 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on Dare I ask why not to mention candyflipping? Heaven forbid anyone have a problem with that...... > ---------- > From: dxford@earthlink.net[SMTP:dxford@earthlink.net] > Reply To: dxford@earthlink.net > Sent: Friday, August 07, 1998 1:13 AM > To: Chris Kloehr > Cc: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on > > Hahahah!!!!!!! > Just dont mention candyflipping or vinyl vs cd > > .MatthewFord. > > Chris Kloehr wrote: > > > > Hearing all of this (2 days worth), makes me wonder why I > ever > > asked about MP3's. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:46:22 +0000 From: Paul.French@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: (orbital) What's Candyflipping? I must confess that though having heard of the term, I am not totally familar with what it is... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:05:53 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) What's Candyflipping? > I must confess that though having heard of the term, I am not totally > familar with what it is... > > My understanding is that it is taking Ecstasy and LSD at the same time..... much fun I must say... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:12:04 +0000 From: Paul.French@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: RE: (orbital) What's Candyflipping? Well then, why was it drafted into the 'Bootlegging --right or wrong' conversation? Chris Kloehr 07/08/98 14:05 To: orbital @ xmission.com cc: (bcc: Paul French/UK/PSYGNOSIS) Subject: RE: (orbital) What's Candyflipping? > I must confess that though having heard of the term, I am not totally > familar with what it is... > > My understanding is that it is taking Ecstasy and LSD at the same time..... much fun I must say... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:19:06 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) What's Candyflipping? Got me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) minidiscs Excerpts from mail: 7-Aug-98 (orbital) End of Copy Conve.. by Spydercorp@aol.com > We can end this tape vs CD conversation now. The simple truth is, although > I never make compilations of stuff I don't already own, I would only do it > on Mini Disc. Everyone thank Sony for promoting (inventing?) the great > morphing or tapes and CDs. My question is, why the hell did they ever > release CDs when MDs were invented only a short time after? Well, my understanding of it, is that the older version of the minidisc format was crap. The discs didn't have very much storage space on them so the audio data had to be compressed way down so they could fit a reasonable number of minutes of audio on the thing. And the compression made the audio sound crummy (worse than CDs sound) so everyone bought CDs instead. The minidiscs out there now have better compression or more storage space on the discs, so the audio is now as good as a CD... I'm not 100% sure if that is true but someone told me that. Rather makes sense too, since minidiscs have been out in some form or another for a _very_ long time, but only recently have ever heard about anyone owning one :) Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:19:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: CD Buying Excerpts from mail: 6-Aug-98 Re: (orbital) CD Buying by @ritvax.isc.rit.edu > >not to mention all the music I already am into. he says buying one CD a > >month is "normal" and it is pissing me off to no end. Just wondering how > >many CDs per month most of you get, and what you might think is a normal > >number. Just curious. hope someone bothers to reply, > > Depends on the month! I have ~300 CD's now, so my habits have ranged from > 1-2 to 10+ a month. I think I am at about 250; I only got into electronic music about a year ago, and since then I think I have bought about 120-150 electronic CDs of various styles so I guess I buy about 10-15 a month. However, this is mostly because I have to catch up on several years of music :) I don't think there are 10-15 new CDs that come out per month that I would buy, its just that I have to buy all those great CDs from '94 , '95, etc, that I missed out on, because I was listening to the crap shoveled to me from MTV and the radio at the time :) > > I hate to say this, because it's SUCH an annoying thing to say but: get a > job. Scamming money is cool (I still do it and I'm 20) but you gotta work > if you want to have real cash (especially the kind you can spend how you > want to spend it) get a job, you're old enough. . I think Dave is right. The only reason I buy this many CDs is because I have money from working. :) Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 07:53:09 PDT From: "7 7 7" Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: Official Release Bootlegs + on + on > Hearing all of this (2 days worth), makes me wonder why I ever >asked about MP3's. Apparently you must have looked for some and that's ok of course. People have strong opinions about it too and that's ok too of course. ...that causes discussion. Trym +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ! trym asserson ! S ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? T ! halcyons@hotmail.com ! Y ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? E ! www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/ ! S ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? M +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:00:42 PDT From: "7 7 7" Subject: Re: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued- Devil's Advocate.. >What about the poor people of the world that can't afford to go and buy all >the CDs, getting them on MP3 or on Gold discs would be a cheap way for them >to build up a music collection. I mean, people say that we are ripping >people off by using the aforementiomed musical formats, but what about us, >the music buying public, who are forced to pay the ridiculous sums of money >that it costs to build up a decent collection. Most of the Orbital stuff, >for example, where I go browsing is on import and that just encourages the >shops to slap another small fortune onto the cover price..... Not meaning to be awfully picky here, but if I'm not too mistaken, poor people must have computers and Internet access in the first place to have any joy in an MP3 (-2, whatever). If so, they can probably manage to pay a measly 10-15 dollars for a CD now and then. Trym +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ! trym asserson ! S ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? T ! halcyons@hotmail.com ! Y ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? E ! www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/ ! S ? ? ? 7 7 7 ? ? ? M +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:20:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "cosmin K.nicolae" Subject: (orbital) Underworld Does anyone know when I can see Underworld in London(october-november). And largely, any techno stuff. Thanx. Cosmin Nicolae LeaderNet Project Member # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:39:07 -0400 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) CD Buying Dave O'Connor wrote: > I hate to say this, because it's SUCH an annoying thing to say but: get a > job. Scamming money is cool (I still do it and I'm 20) but you gotta work > if you want to have real cash (especially the kind you can spend how you > want to spend it) get a job, you're old enough. No, don't! Don't listen to these people who tell you that it's a good idea to get a job when you're still in highschool because of the experience/money. If you need the cash, fine, but otherwise it just takes up too much time from school and friends. You have the rest of your life to work, and you'll probably do plenty of that. So wait until you get into University until you go to work for the summer or whatever. Then your chances of having to say 'would you like to supersize that' are greatly reduced. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:43:48 -0400 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) End of Copy Conversation Spydercorp@aol.com wrote: > We can end this tape vs CD conversation now. The simple truth is, although I > never make compilations of stuff I don't already own, I would only do it on > Mini Disc. Everyone thank Sony for promoting (inventing?) the great morphing > or tapes and CDs. My question is, why the hell did they ever release CDs when > MDs were invented only a short time after? It's a quality issue for me. I don't like anything that compresses whether I want it to or not, and that's what MD does. > As for the MP3s. Who cares. There are people who are so loaded with computer > programs that they can probably take Real Audio and turn it into 44Mhz and > burn it to CD. No one here is bringing up anythign mind blowing enough to You'd think so, right? But I looked for a few days and couldn't do it. This was months ago however, and I finally gave up. It's the .ra of the live concert in the US that Orbital put on. Boston was it? Anyway, streaming off the web was ok in residence with 10Mbps Ethernet, but on my 33.6 it's not practical. I ended up just burning that huge-ass .ra instead of trying to convert it. There's no way that would have anything but a bad effect on the quality anyway. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:44:35 -0400 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) End of Copy Conversation dxford@earthlink.net wrote: > Spydercorp@aol.com wrote: > > because I don't have a burner. But I'll tell you what. I love software piracy. > > I could never justify spending 600 dollars on Photoshop. However, I would > > I agree mate. THREE CHEERS TO SOFTWARE PIRACY! Oh, um i mean, "hey! > those programmers worked hard on that program!" heheh > > .MatthewFord. > > FUCK THE R.I.A.A.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is exactly why I got into hardware, instead of CS :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:12:58 -0700 From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continued- Devil's Advocate.. ** What about the poor people of the world that can't afford to go and buy all the CDs, getting them on MP3 or on Gold discs would be a cheap way for them to build up a music collection. ** Well.. my monthly income is about like $40.. most of that goes towards long distance bills. If i want something, i wait until i have the money. Simple as that. I haven't bought a cd since the middle of june when i bought the golden palomino's dead inside. wait i'm lying. i bought esthero's breath from another (GREAT cd) a couple weeks ago. oops. get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 16:58:35 +0000 From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Underworld At 13:20 07/08/98 +0000, cosmin K.nicolae wrote: > > > > Does anyone know when I can see Underworld in >London(october-november). You'll be lucky. I'd expect they're busy getting on with the next album. They'd damn well better be. And I've not heard anything off the dirtylist, so if they are playing, they're keeping it quiet so far. cheers, Jon - - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "Keep hens from fencing with hen fencing from Roberts' Hen Fencing" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:28:33 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) New Orbital album... from hell!!! > A nightmare tracklist.... So, what are you trying to say? Don't beat around the bush, I can tell there's some point to that.. (It's hard to convey sarcasm through text) >:) But as an aside to that, Madonna _did_ get her start in the New York club underground.. - -Morey gandalf@wnc.com We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. -Oscar Wilde # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:28:33 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) Footwear Repair > Have you seen the video for rez? It's absolutely brilliant! Alot of their other videos are great > too, but rez kicks some butt. It's all about sex, very sublimely, you got to watch carefully. > And I know what you feel about live gigs with underworld, they are one of the best live bands > I've ever seen -despite their introvertiveness, or maybe because of it. Here's my chance to spout off about something.. :) If you haven't bought the new Underworld video compilation, drop everything and go do it now. It's called "Footwear Repair by Craftsmen at Competetive Prices", and worth every cent of whatever you have to pay for it. It's 90 or so minutes of continuous, brilliant Underworld madness. The video for Spikee is the most mind-numbingly amazing video I've seen. There's nothing else like it (even in the realm of underworld) The track list is something like this (the order may differ slightly) rez spikee spoonman most 'ospitable dark and long (dark train) oich oich cowgirl born slippy pearl's girl dirty epic banstyle moaner now playing - orb - super nova (reefer spin in the galaxy) - -Morey gandalf@wnc.com this planet is mine this planet is ours and we have got to live together i want my planet back # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:28:33 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) The visit > >>>"watching windows. do they know what i know ?" > >>for some reason i like/dislike that reprazent song... > > Eh? like/dislike? How's that work then?? I really like the Ed Rush/Optical > mix, but as I hate nearly all jazz-jungle I obviously don;t like the > original. Hmm.. The original version of Watching Windows really isn't jungle. It's like 140bpm. (It's also not one of my favorites) The remix they did for the video is, and I think it's pretty good. Check out the Photek remix of Brown Paper Bag. Now that's a groovy song. - -Morey gandalf@wnc.com Angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night. - Allen Ginsberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 12:43:32 -0400 From: Dave O'Connor Subject: Re: (orbital) CD Buying >to work for the summer or whatever. Then your chances of having to say 'would >you like to supersize that' are greatly reduced. While I definitely understand the concept of "be free while you can" and as much as my current work situation reflects that attitude, I disagree with you. Getting a job during the summer (during the year might be pushing it a bit) is a good idea. Work part time if you want more free time...but work. Try to get a job and keep it for awhile (couple summers). It's never too early to think about your resume. I know that sounds very "grown up and boring" of me, but when you try to get a job in college you'll start to understand. Having an empty resume when you're 20 is a BAD IDEA (believe me, I know people). - ------------------------------------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 Never trust a man in a blue trenchcoat Never drive a car when you're dead -Tom Waits # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:53:53 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: RE: (orbital) Official Release Bootlegs - continue > I think we will have to agree to that we all have seperate views on > this...and it really does depend on your feelings for the group itself. I agree. I know I have my own personal, convoluted opinion about this, just like everyone else, and we're not going to solve this problem here. I am however, glad because it seems that for the first time in a while, everyone has gone out of their way to be polite and reasonable throughout this discussion. (which has not always happened in the past) respect to all, - -Morey gandalf@wnc.com We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. -Oscar Wilde # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:53:52 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) CD Buying > Hey guys, just a quick question for everyone. My dad has recently been > on my case about me and my music, cutting off my money and not letting > me buy enough music as I'd like to now. There are maybe twenty artists > on my list that I've heard about and that I'd like to have a taste of, > not to mention all the music I already am into. he says buying one CD a > month is "normal" and it is pissing me off to no end. Just wondering how > many CDs per month most of you get, and what you might think is a normal > number. Just curious. hope someone bothers to reply, > KEL, the frustrated 16-year-old I know it's rough, but that's about what I got when I was 16, and probably not that abnormal. These days, I buy about 6-7 CD's a month, and maybe 2 or 3 records, which is probably a bit excessive. (I hardly _ever_ have any money for anything else, but I've committed myself to being a collector, and that the way it is, at least for now) now playing - orbital - belfast/wasted - -Morey gandalf@wnc.com The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #108 *****************************