From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #238 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 238 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:22:28 +0100 From: nemesis1 Subject: Re: (orbital) SID on Style? At 00:09 9.8.1999 +0000, deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: >Yeaaah! 8) >We actually had this discussion on #c-64 already, (hmm been quite a while since I stopped by on ircnet or #c-64... hi to you all ;) > it DOES sound alot like a c64, but it apparently was a Stylophone, hence the name Style? :) >some low-tech build-yourself kinda synth from the early eighties if >i got that right! >That thing might have used a 6581 SID-chip though as it was >the first programmable synth-chip ever from what i read and has had a >very big impact on computer and synth development! It's even listed >in the top 10 of the most important chips in computer history! >Together with the 8086, the Pentium, the Z80 and others.. heh :) I just wonder what the results might be if the P+P brothers would get their hands on a SIDStation =) and the good ol' SID still rules :-) ahem... 8) >By the way, i use this opportunity to announce that i'm one of these >'freaks' that still use a c64 more power to c64 junkies, you are a great crowd ;) I won't forget TP7 and the c64 version of 2nd Reality :> and I had an excellent time with some finnish c64 freaks at asm95 (tbb, tnt, zardax, and lots of others :) damn... there should have been a mix of style using SIDs ;) ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:19:47 -0400 From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) Fw: free RealJukebox downloads Thought this might be of relevance, because of the recent talk on Mocean Worker. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 > If you've got RealJukebox Beta 2, we've got some downloads for you: > > Video: > To Rococo Rot - Telema, Sven Vath - Fusion, Roots Manuva - Juggle Tings > Proper, Mocean Worker - Detonator, Expansion Union - Playing with > Lightning. > > Audio: > Sly and Robbie - Softcore Surge, Sven Vath - Fusion (MP3), Mocean Worker - > Detonator (MP3), Mocean Worker - Counts, Dukes, and Strays, Expansion > Union - Playing with Lightning (MP3), > > http://www.sputnik7.com/realdownload/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:18:58 EDT From: "Ender Wright" Subject: (orbital) Atomic Babies I was listening to a cd this weekend. It's one I've owned for a while, but never really paid attention to. It's cutely named "Digital Empire." I don't know if it's a popular comp' with you guys or not, but track two on the second cd really caught my attention. I mean I was enthralled. I was shocked to find I had overlooked something I liked so much. I decided to do a little research on these Atomic Babies and their alluring song "smiles." So when I got to work today I did a little surfing (first for mp3's then just for more info) but still didn't manage to find much. UBL and iMusic have little clips of them but that's about all I could grab. I was hoping someone on the list could point me in the right direction. I understand they have one album out and about a million other songs spread over various other comp's. Which stores might carry them, and where can I go to find where their playing? Thanx for your Time and Space... - -Ender _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:57:56 -0400 From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) (( Re:Fatboy + Earthdance + rush )) [in stereo] > Sueter.net will help to produce EARTHDANCE CHILE at Oct. Yeah Yeah. Sta= y > tunned 4 the real video transmission. yay for earthdance i'll be at earthdance toronto aim=E9e - off on vacation until the 19th.. no power, no showers, no flush toilets.. now that's the life http://shush.com/aimee http://baked.net/orbitalinfo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:43:45 -0500 From: "[::Daniel Ramirez_owo voyager_Temuco::]" Subject: (orbital) C00l pics of the orbital crew here Aimee Couture wrote: > http://www.baked.net/orbitalinfo/images.html Ohhh !!!! I want to be here!. Nice idea Aimée!. Are you kinda pokemon ? [see the pic] [I can't find your pic Rob Sch.!!! ] [ : D ] Greet. from Chile [the wine's country remeber ?...] love & peace at this great planet.- Dan.- - -- ©©©©©©©©©__________________ **** ! !]!]! owovoyager!]!]!thedisinneverbe..the s a m e [design_76 craft] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:52:07 -0500 From: "[::Daniel Ramirez_owo voyager_Temuco::]" Subject: Re: (orbital) C00l pics of the orbital crew here Do you want to see more pics? click here : http://www.sueter.net/concentration__/4_jul10_1999_ArteMatta/sueter4.htm That was the last sueter's party at Santiago de Chile. [Saturday July 10] The next party is August 26 I think. Not sure yet. Hope you like the design : P owo [wine's country] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:51:36 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Orbital Train Station. Well the fatboy slim/orbital mp3 is due to some small abuse and the fact that i had 100| people leech it and 1 person upload. Not cool. It seemed some lameass put it on some sort of list.. Double Not Cool. Anyways i saw Orbital Live At The Train Station in Seattel 96 on a real audio site. I was at the show, being as i'm in seattle and i wanted to go from Real Audio to Mp3. I know it is possible to do RA->WAV->MP3 somehow but i haven't a clue. Which software do i need to acquire? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:29:44 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) http://www.800.com/bannerad.asp?keycode=103239 I am not spamming and i make NO money from This. But i figured i'd sahre this deal i already bought 5 DVDs.. http://www.800.com/bannerad.asp?keycode=103239 They charge no shipping and no sales tax. Its 8$ off any movie 15$+ If you delete your cookies and go in again and just setup another account under another email (excite, hotmail) you can use it again and again. I have like 30 email accts os i play on buying a bunch of dvds :0 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:32:20 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Music one http://www.800.com/bannerad.asp?keycode=103240 Same rules apply. Again if this pissed you off tell me i wont do it again but its SUCH A FREAKIN steal i wann tell the world. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:45:46 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Country-->Song Lyrics-> Sherly CRow I'm doing a tracklist for my lilith fair recording lyrics are somethign like this It's a country cover song by sherly crow feat. luscious jackson Anyone have any ideas who sang this Momma's got a squeeze? that she wears on her chest When Daddy gets home he never gets to rest Cuz she' playing all night, and the musics all right Momma's got a secret? and daddy never sleeps at night hey hey hey hey come on squeeze me squeeze me night night and day Please help me, i know its not really on topic :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:00:43 -0400 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Country-->Song Lyrics-> Sherly CRow angel@dimension6.com wrote: > > I'm doing a tracklist for my lilith fair recording lyrics are somethign > like this > > It's a country cover song by sherly crow feat. luscious jackson > > Anyone have any ideas who sang this > > Momma's got a squeeze? that she wears on her chest > When Daddy gets home he never gets to rest > Cuz she' playing all night, and the musics all right > Momma's got a secret? and daddy never sleeps at night > > hey hey hey hey come on squeeze me > squeeze me night night and day This is the way I remeber it from the original 70's song by ?The NittyGrittyDirtBand or Jim Croce'? "Momma's got a she wears on her chest" {i.e. it's is like an accordian with no keyboard} "When Daddy gets home he never gets NO rest" "Cuz she plays it all night and the music's all right "Hey, come on and SQUEEEEEEZE me" "Hey, come on and SQUEEEEEEZE me" "Squeeze me like you do ..." "I'm so in Love with you" "Momma's got a squeeze-box, daddy never sleeps at night" Wasn't really country. Just funky hippie rock. SKC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:09:31 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Country-->Song Lyrics-> Sherly CRow > This is the way I remeber it from the original > 70's song by ?The NittyGrittyDirtBand or Jim Croce'? > > "Momma's got a she wears on her chest" > {i.e. it's is like an accordian with no keyboard} > "When Daddy gets home he never gets NO rest" > "Cuz she plays it all night and the music's all right > > "Hey, come on and SQUEEEEEEZE me" > "Hey, come on and SQUEEEEEEZE me" > "Squeeze me like you do ..." > "I'm so in Love with you" > "Momma's got a squeeze-box, daddy never sleeps at night" > > Wasn't really country. Just funky hippie rock. > > SKC YES YOU RULE! That is exactly the song. Now what's it called and whose it bye :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:11:10 -0400 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Country-->Song Lyrics-> Sherly CRow > > "Momma's got a squeeze-box, daddy never sleeps at night" > > > > Wasn't really country. Just funky hippie rock. > > > > SKC > > YES YOU RULE! That is exactly the song. Now what's it called and whose it bye I think it's called "Squeeze-box". It may take the old neurons a day to remember. You could call any oldies Rock Dj and he could probably tell you in a sec! Gotta giit ShannON # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:09:00 EDT From: Catinosboy@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Country-->Song Lyrics-> Sherly CRow In a message dated 8/12/99 0:05:48 AM EST, campbell@scanner.ipl.utmck.edu writes: << I think it's called "Squeeze-box". It may take the old neurons a day to remember. You could call any oldies Rock Dj and he could probably tell you in a sec! >> It was The Who. Brent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:28:58 -0400 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Recycled music... Music for thought: Squarepusher's "Dimotane Co" has a extensively-used sample that also used on the "You Remixed Gong" tribute album. (I think it's Moodfood's song, the first track.) Meat Beat Manifesto's "All the Things You Are" contains a sample saying "Give the Lord a handclap" that is used quite a bit on Dayspring Collective's "Deliverance". Plaid's "Forever" is actually a small tribute to the 70's progressive jazz band "Return to Forever". The song is an electronic version of the beginning riff of "Medieval Overture" on Return to Forever's "Romantic Warror". This surprised the hell outta me when I first heard it. (BTW, they are a cool synth-laced jazz band. You should check out Romantic Warrior.) u-Ziq's My Little Beautiful's main keyboard riff was pulled off of a Weather Report song. Anybody know which one? (I know it's off of their "Heavy Weather" album.) Mocean Worker's "What's Wrong" contains a "What's wrong?" voice sample that is also used in Orbital's "Out There Somewhere?". Both were gleaned off of George Lucas' first film "THX 1138". Can anybody provide more sample rips? The techno community is really good at grabbing from unobvious places, but a few catch our attention now and then. (Like the many, many commercials and movies with Doom sounds.) - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (sineswiper@resonatorsoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.resonatorsoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:09:51 -0400 From: "Sean Strout" Subject: (orbital) i dont know you people (radio edit)? hey folks, a local non-commercial station is playing 'i don't know you people' in regular rotation http://wber.monroe.edu/play.html The thing is this sounds like a sortened track, not the full length album version. Just curious was this released on a promo or somewhere? It sounds like just a shortened version, no additions or tweaks. later, sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Aronne James Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: samples Excerpts from lists: 12-Aug-99 (orbital) Recycled music... by SineSwiper@resonatorsoft > > Can anybody provide more sample rips? The techno community is really good > at > grabbing from unobvious places, but a few catch our attention now and then. > (Like the many, many commercials and movies with Doom sounds.) > there are thousands... I'm not very good at tracing the origin though, my music knowledge base isn't big enough. There is a web site out there with a rather extensive (but by all means nowhere near complete) list of movie samples; most of it was industrial music but there was a lot of other stuff. I don't have the URL handy (I forgot which copy of netscape has it bookmarked.) I think the most sampled movie was Bladerunner. later, Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:42:10 -0400 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) {Orbital} Happy Birthday Early-Style! Happy Birthday to me! EARLY too! Came home yesterday and looked down onthe Coffee table and what did I see? Orbital Style Part.2! Poor Dawn had left it out and forgotten to wrap it up for the upcoming day! So I got an early present, hee hee! And she paid $12!!!! [bless her heart] Well Kulsi had dubbed these tracks for me last week so I could hear them. But it SOOO nice to have the sleeve and all too. [i felt a little guilty having someone dub theirs for me] I had done the samples at LOOPZ but it's great having the whole enchilada! If Volkswagon REALLY wanted to sell some Beetles, they'd use "New Style" to do it. This song jusst f*kin ROCKS! It's so 60's retro. That simple bass-line is straight from the Velvet Underground, and the bass-synth thing running along side IS the Doors. Kids! Those vocals are pure 60's idealism and golden days. First the male "Ba-Ba-Bah" a few times, finally complimented with the female hi wail. GOD it makes me trip![Look Ma! No chemicals!] just emotional sound! I know y'all covered this before, but could we get a replay on the meaning of "An Fhomhair" and who Pooka is? "Zee female vocal is a mind-altering Veapon! I kahn take any country in za Vorld! if I hahf three divsions of amplified zoldiers carrying loudspeakers und crankin' zee Orbital vomens! [sorry to offend any deutch listers for my moronic impression of audio nazis] I love BigPipe Style. It gets my scottish Blood boiling. In fact we were out in the yard catchin' rays on saturday and chasing them with a few bottles of Corona and I was tellin' Dawn how we need to incorporate the Highland Fling into our dance grooves, and with that I attempted to demonstrate a kick [in wet flip-flops i might add] and promptly busted my Arse! and my ankle on the landing. I tell you it was just like Riverdance there for a moment [until the pain kicked in]. Well luckily I didNOT break the MF*ckr; just a bit blak n' blu.. Hey does anyone know an online site [pref u$a] still selling Style Part1 we're having trouble finding it over here SHIIIT! I gotta do some work now or no discs for me! Shannon /|||\ >>>-( X X )--> \ ^ / [O] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:23:16 -0700 From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: Re: (orbital) Country--> Squeeze Box The Who sang that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:00:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Nub Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #236 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=139245794 > ORBITAL/UNDERWORLD-FOUNDATIONS > UK 2xLP RARE interesting. what the hell is it? > NP: Cosmic Baby - Sweet dreams for kaa (Orbital-fans who like > Semi-detached and the more trancey stuff should give this a try!.. > Very good old stuff from the early german techno days! Further tracks > recommended: The Space track, Heaven's tears... 8) i have a couple things by this guy. spacetrack is a classic. not a big fan of his second album. too much cheesy piano. is this one - "sweet dreams..." his first album? i've looked for it but not been able to find it. speaking of germans (i think) anybody a fan of mouse on mars? my friend bought "autoditacker" randomly the other day, and it turned out to be very good. a very chill blend of idm and techno with lots of "squishy" noises. who knows about these guy? what can you tell me? don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but i think the plaid - peel sessions is an excellent intro purchase for the plaid-illiterate. ultra funky badass techno, and not one bad cut in the bunch. nub np: phish- story of the ghost (wow - orgasms of melody, especially "guyute") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:54:32 -0700 From: rain@xkrew.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Geesh? You were the lone uploader :) till yesterday I'm going to open a live mp3 site.. about 5-10 gigz. Acces will be by request only and what you can offer. My ICQ is 9080014. I have tons of VCDs.. always looking to swap also. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:07:01 -0400 From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Train Station. > Anyways i saw Orbital Live At The Train Station in Seattel 96 on a real audio > site. I was at the show, being as i'm in seattle and i wanted to go from Real > Audio to Mp3. I know it is possible to do RA->WAV->MP3 somehow but i haven't a > clue. Which software do i need to acquire? I'm sending this to this list because I swear the question gets asked at least once a month on every single mailing list I'm on.... Go to www.2bsys.com and download RA2WAV. Then, use a decent MP3 encoder to put if back into MP3. (Please don't ask which is the best encoder to use :)). If the file is a pnm stream, you'll also need 2bsys' x-fileget program to download it. If it's an HTTP stream, you can get it easily enough with any download resumer (browsers will always try to play it instead of downloading it.) I prefer Go!Zilla (www.gizmo.net), but GetRight is an even more-popular alternative (www.getright.com). Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:18:12 -0700 From: Jon Masciana Subject: (orbital) cosmic baby/info, etc >> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=139245794 >> ORBITAL/UNDERWORLD-FOUNDATIONS >> UK 2xLP RARE > >interesting. what the hell is it? this album is a compilation with an exclusive Orbital track: THe tranquilizer busy tranquilizing. It's a variation on the Tranquilizer from the "Times Fly" cd single. >> NP: Cosmic Baby - Sweet dreams for kaa (Orbital-fans who like >> Semi-detached and the more trancey stuff should give this a try!.. >> Very good old stuff from the early german techno days! Further tracks >> recommended: The Space track, Heaven's tears... 8) > >i have a couple things by this guy. spacetrack is a classic. not a big fan >of his second album. too much cheesy piano. is this one - "sweet >dreams..." his first album? i've looked for it but not been able to find >it. This is from his first album, and I'm glad to see that someone else noticed it's brilliance as well. However, i'm convinced that Paul Van Dyk had a large part on this track. Van Dyk's material is sheer brilliance IMO, and this track is co-produced with Van Dyk. Cosmic and Paul used to be in a band together (visions of shiva) but Cosmic broke it off after Paul was taking too much of the credit (or at least the story goes...) i agree with you on his second album, it's a bit cheesy, but there are a few killer tracks (Fantasia, etc.) Looks like Cosmic should have minded his words, Paul Van Dyk has risen to stardom and Cosmic seems like a thing of the past (at least in the US and UK). His new material is not worth picking up, by the way... >don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but i think the plaid - peel >sessions is an excellent intro purchase for the plaid-illiterate. ultra >funky badass techno, and not one bad cut in the bunch. really that good? worth purchasing? Take care, jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:29:40 -0500 From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) Would Orbital ever sell out? > If Volkswagon REALLY wanted to sell some Beetles, they'd use "New Style" > to do it. I'm sure Orbital's songs would make great jingles for some products (ie- cars, video games, movies), and that Orbital succeeds in booking some opportunities such as with the Wipeout series. Would the brothers go for more opportunities if they were offered them? Have they refused any to anyone's knowledge? Considering Orbitals stance against capitolism, etc (please don't flame me if that's wrong = ), I don't think they would go for the same kind of publicity that musicians such as Fatboy Slim receive. Would it be a good thing if they were all over different medias? If everyone knew about them? I was surprised to hear they hit the top 100 sales on CDNOW (does anyone know which number they were/are?). I'm not really sure what I'm talking about, but I've probably inspired some responses. -Marc Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:47:04 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Would Orbital ever sell out? > If Volkswagon REALLY wanted to sell some Beetles, they'd use "New Style" > to do it. I dont think they would be sellouts if they wanted to use as many of their songs as Fatboy and Crysal Meth. have used in commercials. I just think it boils down to if they are enjoying themselves. After all, they are all in it to make a little cash,right? (if not then why did they sign the record deals). As long as they dont start being TOLD what to write and if it conflicts with their own interests. That is they fine line between artists and sellouts. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:59:49 PDT From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: Re: (orbital) Would Orbital ever sell out? Dude, I'm here with you all the way on that one. I'm sure Orbital has had the chance to get much bigger than they are. Believe me, they're not hurting financially, I'm sure they are doing quite well, so why get huge for the sake of getting huge? It ends up not even paying them, but paying all the business people that helped to make them that way (marketing, sales, promotion, etc). Also, they seem to have a de-emphasis on marketing in general. I'm a Marketing major, and I've sort of researched how Orbital are able to "get by" up until now, and it's brilliant. They have really not only gone against the music world musically, but in the business side of things as well. I mean, other than the stickers and frisbees and stuff, they don't exactly plaster the cover of Rolling Stone and rule the airwaves of MTV and radio. You know, Ricky Martin is not the hottest thing around because he's such a good artist, he's popular because his marketing mix has worked. I'm not ranking on him at all, but I'm saying that there are probably a thousand other techno groups out there that are wonderfully good, but just can't bring the marketing aspect into focus. Orbital is unique in their stance on the music industry, and I find it amazing that they can stand alone like they do, almost faceless, and still have the recognition and artistic merit that they have. I can think of few artists that can do this. I think someday Orbital will be seen with much greater respect than they are now. I think they are so humble in their music and message that it makes the message much deeper and personal. By the way, I could picture Orbital doing some cheesy VW commercials, or having a laugh by doing the remake of the Danger Mouse cartoon(I love that one!), or something else that they could twist around and get a laugh out of. In a way, I'd like to see Orbital just sort of "step out of the shadows" and begin to throw there music on MTV and stuff, but that might take away from the music and the message. Ok, hope you all liked my ode to Orbital. Later Rob _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:08:59 -0400 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Would Orbital ever sell out? Marc Sawaya wrote: > > I don't think they would go for the same kind of publicity > that musicians such as Fatboy Slim receive. Why is FBS is universal capitolist bad guy all the time? Let's face it: techno isn't popular. We all cry out "Hey, I know that song" whenever some techno song pops up on TV, like it's a major event. Techno lovers are only about 5-10% of the music-listening population. So, nobody in the techno industry is really "sold out". Even if they are popular, they aren't necessary "selling out". Bands like Metallica, who changes their musical style to fit the highest selling bracket, sells out. Just the fact that you're in the techno music business means you can't sell out, because you don't make as much as, say, a standard rock group. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (sineswiper@resonatorsoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.resonatorsoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) Would Orbital ever sell out? > > Why is FBS is universal capitolist bad guy all the > time? i think the reason most people seem to consider fatboy slim as a sellout is that his music is plastered all over anything popculture in america (there's a nice, broad statement...sorry, a little exagerrated). the only reason this happened is because his form of music is a melding of techno and what's pop right now. since it's this sort of hybrid, it seems a lot of techno purists (including me, he he he) consider him as a sell-out. it's like he special-tailored his music so that it'd fit in with what could pull in the fat cash. this may or may not be true. his first album has a lot of the same style as the second one (though i haven't heard the second one as much) even though the latter is much more popular. so, it might be that his music has remained the same, how he wanted it, however the marketing magicians have made it a commercial success. correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe FBS has been around for a while under many various names. i'm guessing that music was comparible to his current stuff. either way though, i still think he sold out because he got his marketing guys (or maybe it wasn't his choice...prolly was though) to get his music on all the radio stations and MTV and his name in all the hip magazines that know what's dope and what's not. yo. brandon god i ramble a lot...kick me! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #238 *****************************