From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #248 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Friday, August 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 248 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:22:24 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Live in Chicago '99 CD Artwork >I did the Chicago Live artwork for a chap down in Chicago named Dan LeBoeuf >(timmins@thebutt.com). To my understanding he was the one distributing this >CD. I have seen a few on e-bay from different people going for quite high >prices (and slightly different artwork). So you didnt do this for him? He told me the hold up was because he was waiting on the artwork from you!!! Well, at least I got it. If I had the time or the money for the CD's, I would start burning copies for people just for spite.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:42:12 -0500 From: Marc Sawaya Subject: Re: (orbital) Live in Chicago '99 CD Artwork > Secondly, I am more or less "Fallen Angle Production" > (Just a nice catchy name that I slap on my art work to confuse the public). Fallen Angle or Angel? Lol! If that's an accident, I hope you didn't put it like that on the artwork. Speaking of the cover, is there any way I could see the thing. I've been off the list for a week moving into college, so I lost the conversation. As far as I could tell, people were still arguing with Branden about classifications. Looks like I haven't missed much = ). Well, good to be back on. -Marc Sawaya, back from the dead # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:35:29 -0500 From: Don Thompson Subject: (orbital) A BIG NEW IDEA Hey All, I've got a few ideas that this list WILL benefit from...since I've been on for awhile (with a short break due to a CPU crash)....I'd like to see the list get back to it's normal self. So, PLEASE take a minute to look this over and tell me what you think: 1) When reviewing or talking about any artists work, instead of bashing it, let's make sure we just give an honest and fair assessment of the work. If you don't think you can give an honest opinion...then don't post. Also, make sure to use things like IMO (in my opinion) when reviewing anything. This way people will know you're just giving an opinion on the aritst. 2) DO NOT post anything unless you have a strong background on the subject. Most of these damn arguments come about because someone thinks they know more than someone else....hey...instead....let's just share ideas....and make sure that if you post something you're not too sure about that you make it known in the post that you're unsure....that way someone can come along and help. 3) Finally, THINK BEFORE YOU POST. I don't want to see any of this flaming shit anymore. If the post is against someone....do us all a favor and send it PRIVATELY...otherwise don't send it at all....this will free up the list for some intelligent discussion and information...... Thanks for listening.....feel free to comment or add anything you think might help....... - --Don Thompson - -- Don Thompson, Don78@prodigy.net on 08/26/1999 at 3:29:33 PM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:52:45 EDT From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: Re: (orbital) A BIG NEW IDEA AMEN I SAY TO YOU! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:55:35 -0700 From: Matthew Ford Subject: Re: (orbital) Amp HAHAHAHA. Dont I know it. Yeah, the live set is only audio...and of course Dr Who is missing :( other than whats showed on canada music television and british television (festival stuff), not that I know of. .matthewford. "Fanno, Jeff" wrote: > I guess I messed that episode. Mtv is sooo erratic with showing 120 minutes > and amp that I tend to miss a lot of those shows. I mean do we really need > marathons of The Real World-yuchh. > > Thanks for the update. Is the live set only audio? There's no video > floating around of Orbital, aside from Live Experience is there? > > Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:07:30 +0100 From: "Agust 'nemesis1'" Subject: Re: (orbital) !!!!Hippys and synths!!!! At 14:29 24.8.1999 -0400, Shannon K. Campbell wrote: >?Have you ever really like dsome movie or some music only to find out >later that the guy who made it is a real jerk? it sucks when that happens, don't ya think? ;) >Nobody has EVEN said the Eno word !!! >I thought Tangerine Dream was the great grand-pappy of Orbital. >This IS my main reference to older[30+] newbies who ask me and nobody... Nobody! has even mentioned the father of "Popcorn", Gershon Kingsley. that's where I fell in love with electronic music, only 2 years old or so :) (and drove my family NUTS when I played the 7" to death... sniff I miss that 7" ;) happy cheesy poppy track that you can dance and bop to, and dig those groovy synth sounds ,) (useless info (c) 199999999999 where time becomes a loop) ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:46:14 +0100 From: "Agust 'nemesis1'" Subject: Re: (orbital) Internet (mint condition) for sale! At 05:02 26.8.1999 +0000, deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: a bunch of stuff. deekay, you r0q ;) >Andy Jackson: >>> 5) Wibble wibble ptang! ekki! >>Oh, you speak Gibberish! What part of Gibberia are you from? I'm >>from the south...just outside of Baloni, in the Klaptrapp Valley. >LOL! 8) Really great, laughed my ass of on that one! ;-D after all the madness here, I did too. take my advice kids, don't try to catch up with 4-6 high volume mailing lists after a week... going through 293849023842384 postings in one go WILL drive you nuts ;) (in the infamous words of a certain Jay on the dirty-list: "for fucks sake". incidentally, he got kicked out of the list after repeating that statement quite a few times within 2 days ;) >Ed Blackshaw: >>I would like the exact date, place and time of birth. >>A birth certificate would be nice. that comment cracked me up real good. wonder what my grandparents thought while I was reading through all the nonsense here =) >Robert Schulz: >>Deekay, where are you on this man? I will only join in this Techno >>(or fuckin Rave or whatever) War if I am invite, so please, would >>someone invite me!? HAHAHAHAHA j00 m0z7 h@v3 m@d h@x0r 5k1llZ 2 B 1nV173d! ;) >Hehe, no way in the world i'll actively join this thread, i'll stay >out of this, too!.. It gets on my nerves, it's like discussing >musical taste, WE JUST WILL NEVER REACH A CONCLUSION!... of coz we will. I know I'm right and you're wrong... ;) >Brendan: >>Let's go promote another name for the sub-catagory and we >>won't be confused any more. >I can't believe he seriously said that!! neither could I. make another name. sure... and use it around, sure... and do you seriously think THAT will lessen the confusion??? I don't. >>For newbies, Mike Paradinas (of U-Ziq) and Richard >>James (of Aphex Twin) in a quirky D&B (I think) album. >Hey Brendan (of Sinesweeper)... Aphex Twin and Mu-Ziq are great >BANDS< aren't they? >:-) How blatantly obviously can you >possibly show us just WHO the newbie (that pretends to know it >all while knowing nothing) really is? 8))) funny thing is, before Brendan arrived here, I was always thought that this was a friendly nice list where we discussed everything between Orbital and the sky. and space and beyond. but mostly just about this broad waste range of musical genre which some people just simply call "techno". uh oh. there's that word again... but the main point is, it used to be a friendly nice list. I think we can use a new calendar reference now, OBB, Orbital-list Before Brendan. then someone shouted SATAN SATAN SATAN (sorry, couldn't resist ;) and Brendan popped up and started throwing confusion and arrogance around and wasted everybodies time and bandwidth with useless banter about nothing (oh and how much he seems to be THE man). Brendan, don't get me wrong. I'm not really trying to flame you here, just using my particular brand of sarcasm and wit (or lack of it) to waste more bandwidth on this list ;) but really, could you please reach out for that knob at the back of your head labelled "Arrogance" and turn it down a bit? to like... 3-4 instead of the 8-10 it seems to be rocking on? Nobody likes a smartass... now can we all get back to business and get the good times rolling again? ya know, laid back talk about music & orbital & life and just enjoying each others company like grown up people, and get rid of this talking down to people and arrogance and bullshit? enough already... to quote Jay again: "for fucks sake" ;) >Oh yeah! 8) can't we stand and face it like the man you are? 8) Oh, >what a HUNK! 8) with all his genres and sub-categories he shoots down >all the cowboys that dare messing up Sinesweeper City!... And then he >jumps on his trusty horse and rides off into the sunset, protecting >the world of all the evil people that dare listening to music just >because they like it!.. AHeaHEAHHaheAHehAEHahEHAehAHHAEHaEHA deekay, you are 'the' man ;) I'm still laughing my ass off 8) >Oh well, whatever, enough flaming Brendan for today... indeed... free chill pills for all today! just get down and groove! (now if my #$%("$%( amp would stop crapping out the bass on the right channel so EVERYTHING sounds madly distorted :( damn old piece of junk :P (and for those who proclaim ignorance and that sarcasm is so hard to 'get' on internet, there are many ways of doing it. like putting some kinda statement into your sentence/mail/page/text which makes sure that people might get the clue that This Should Not Be Taken Seriously At All People. that's why I love smileys. sure, people can misunderstand smileys, but still, most people seem to understand the difference between a :) and a ;) within the context of the text in question... that was my $20 for now (inflation ;) ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:03:56 +0100 From: "Agust 'nemesis1'" Subject: Re: (orbital) re: once, twice, apparently 1000 times a boring thread.. At 23:38 24.8.1999 -0400, Matthew J Russell wrote: >1)where exactly would new order/depeche mode fit in...they were doing danceable stuff well >before the whole techno scene thingy... new wave. synthpop. whatever... or just simply "good" music ;) >2)wouldn't this thread be a little bit better if we went on about how it related to >orbital(i.e....their influences....who/what they've influenced....whether or not they care >what electronica means..etc.) naaww... that could be a constructive and fun thread, and you know those words will get you a kill -9 right away! >3)could we stop arguing about "techno" or "electronica"...these words come from peoples' >need to be able to refer to something by a name in order to help other people undersatnd >them.....the word doesn't matter...the image conjured to mind is the important thing here.. now that's a nice little smart take on the whole matter. nice one :D >4)whoever it was who said just talking about orbital is slightly boring is sort of >correct...sometimes there just isn't enought about them going on....and also these debates >are interesting......but why do they always devolve into name calling and >"i'm-right-no-i'm-right-shut-up-no-you-shut-up" matches....if they didn't do that...these >would actually be pretty funny arguments... Fun is Evil! Boredom is God! (and blah blah blah... funny arguements are the holy grail. you want them, but they evade you unlike the plague ;) >7)why can't orbital visit the u.s. more often?.....i've only had the chance to see them >once...and it was a damn good show.....difficult to dance in narrow seat rows...but it was >worth the 2-day limp... and why won't more acts visit Iceland? ;) heh just kidding... ;) but we know how to party hard over here (after a bottle or two :P >8)anyone else suspect backstreet boys and nsync are actually the same five guys? government clone experiment escapees. really its' the truth! I tell ya! I heard it on the internet! and it always tells the truth! ;) >10)who did that song "popcorn"?...you know...the one aphex twin covered....i heard it on tv >somewhere...and always wanted to know who did it.... this is the one and only ultimate Holy Friggin Grail site, anything you might possibly remotely have wondered about and heck, stuff you probably didn't think about, but is directly Popcorn related anyways, along with squillions of remakes in mod/xm/s3m/it/mid/sid/mp3/holygizmo formats, and other versions, including orchestral (!!!) and whatever else you could or couldn't think up about Popcorn the song. oh, and information about who originally made the song too ;) http://www.cam.org/~lafranc/popcorn.html ahhhh.... popcorn... how much I love that track still today... >12)getting bored yet? no. my summer holidays are finally (FINALLY!) over and I've started working again. bliss..... 5 weeks of holidays, no work, no obligations, nothing to do, nowhere to go, no MONEY to spend, no friends to kill time with (apart from the evenings, damn those working bastids ;) ... watching grass grow will start to look like an attractive way of passing time... ;) peace, love & cool milkshake with strawberries, blueberries and banana mixed in... ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:23:35 +0100 From: "Agust 'nemesis1'" Subject: Re: (orbital) i'm right, you're wrong, blahblahblah At 17:15 24.8.1999 -0600, Nub wrote: >jeezus h, this list is getting downright bitchy. indeed. we all need to chill out and listen to some "good" music. what "good" music is, is a matter of each persons individual taste, and may not fit into another persons definition of "good" music. can we bury the hatchet now please? :) >unable to resist an all-out bitchfest, i herby submit my contribution: > >i think most of us who have been around a while know who the ones are that >actually know what they are talking about. i'm getting sick of the rest >trying to impress us all with obscure references about such and such a >person that was "obviously" the forerunner of such and such a whatever. there is no such thing as "absolute knowledge". you can't possibly know it all. but you can always learn more. read.listen.digest.discuss.think.share.learn.get on with life, don't get stuck up. >just because something sounds like something else doesn't mean anything >about the history or evolution. now, at the risk of pissing EVERYONE off, [cut] amen to that. >yet another point: > >"techno" is not "electronica." [cut] (IMHO) I was always under the impression that people (well, some at least :) used the word "electronica" to refer to the styles like ambient & such, experimental electronic music, and stuff which didn't fit under the "techno" umbrella of "dance" music. then again, I could be wrong. languages can be confusing sometimes ya know :) ultimately, our understanding of words and phrases are based on our own knowledge & understanding, and may not necessarily be the same as the next persons definition. in the shops here on iceland, they usually categorize music into classic, pop, rock, rap, icelandic & techno. sometimes they might have some further smaller sections, like western and other stuff, but broad generalization is a little bit finicky sometimes, then again, after this heated arguement about "techno", we know how that goes ;) >orbital are an electronic music band. unless of course you take into >account that they sometimes use guitars and horns and stuff. so i guess >now we have to call them pre-millenial quasi-ambient techno post-funk prog >house-rock. or something. heh, that was funny ;) I sorta like this simple categorization: good music & bad music. and IMHO, Orbital is Good music :) ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:01:30 +0100 From: "Agust 'nemesis1'" Subject: Re: (orbital) Fair Warning ; This Is Long At 01:11 25.8.1999 PDT, Juno Jackson wrote: >2) THE WHOLE KRAFTWERK LEGACY ------- >because of Ralf and Florian's strict guidelines for perfection; >they think all of their stuff before "Autobahn" sounds like shit. It is >rumored that they once spent 30 hours recording a kick drum during the >Techno Pop sessions because they wanted to get the rhythm so perfect. gee, only 30 hours? I've heard worse ;) a certain finnish guy (Captain to the trax sceners out there :) aparently is really bad about his perfectionism. a friend of his that I used to talk to a lot some years back told me he usually spent a week or more on a single SAMPLE fine tuning/sampling/etcetcetc it untill he was happy about it, before moving on to next sounds. and that he'd spend ages on each track making sure it was 24239030% perfectly ok... now that's nuts =) (but damn, he did release some nice trax, and that cd I got with his first band (?) ain't bad either) >6) BRENDAN ------ >Well, I think that the name "Fucko" is a bit harsh. Even if he does like to >start shit, at least I'm not the only Gong fan on this list anymore ! I bought "You Remixed Gong - phase 1 & 2" on a sale last week... sweet jesus, this is FRIGGIN NICE stuff! but at the same time, had a deja-vu; part of Youth's track I'm sure I've heard somewhere before... maybe on some System 7 track? and the System 7 track, I'm perfectly sure I've heard that one before by S7 under some other name. am I right? I havn't gone through my S7 cds yet (always end up listening to something else, like all my Autechre cds in random order ;) but I SWEAR I've head that track before by different name. or I'm getting senile and I have it on mp3 somewhere and forgot about it... anyways, I liked this cd. how does Phase 3 measure up to phase 1&2, and what is all the Gong stuff like, the originals and the spin offs? :) ^_^ Agust 'nemesis1' http://nemesis1.cjb.net feed me music (beware the sheep) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:34:41 -0400 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Live in Chicago '99 CD Artwork Thing181@aol.com wrote: > > Hello > > Firstly, to answer Shannon's question, I am a guy. I really have no > connection to Randy. Secondly, I am more or less "Fallen Angle Production" > (Just a nice catchy name that I slap on my art work to confuse the public). Sorry about that!!! I get it all the time too. {i'm male too if anybody gives a shit} Randy must have been making a joke. D'OOOHHH!!! > Just go to http://www.execpc.com/~row117/orbital.htm and click on the > download link. There are instruction on how to align the .tiff in Adobe > Illustrator in order for them to be printed perfectly at a nice 300 dpi or > higher resolution. > > Hey, it is going to sell for $50 on e-bay, the cover art might as well look > sharp. Any questions, please feel free to contact me personally. > > -Cas- Thanks for the nice ones! Shannon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:52:18 -0400 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) illegal material Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:18:21 -0500 From: "J Van" Subject: Re: (orbital) Live in Chicago '99 CD Artwork > To anyone who has an E-bay account you can e-mail E-Bay > and tell them to yank these auctions as they are illegal > material . Steve Price or anyone else with a direct > line to the Hartnolls just let the band know and they'll notify > E-bay about this. If shit like this continues we might see Orbital > change their tolerant policy totally towards people taping and trading > their shows. > In this day and age any idiot armed with a cd burner and a color > printer can go and make unlimited copies of a show, run off > artwork and go to town on E-bay. C'mon people let's try to > have a little more respect for the band and their work. Hell Yes! It's up to ALL of us to put pressure on greedy idiots. Afterall, who are they hurting BESIDES the band? They're trying to rip-off US! ALL of US! We who dig the stuff and want to own and trade it. I tried to pin the EBay guy down personally and he was totally clueless that this material was homemade. He said he got the at a show [a RAVE i guess] in CANADA! and that made them "Imports" and that they were even aluminum pressed! John pointed out to me that they could also just be silver CD-Rs. But the whole thing sux. He seemed genuine in his confusion and I apologized for accusing him of maliciously trying to pull this shit, but I pointed out to the guy that selling a US bootleg in the US is NOT an Import and that further Niether that disc od the Worcester disc were OFFICIAL Orbital merchandice and should NOT be advertised on EBay as if they were. P&P have been really cool about everyone getting along. But if this kind of crap continues, they may have no sayso in stopping it 'cause it willl be the lawyers at FFRR who are gonna come ruin the nice party. Corporates don't fuk around with this shit. They're like the mafia and have to make a reputation for enforcement. Be vigilant and DO something about it if you can! I'll shut up already! Shannon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:28:20 -0400 From: "Dr. Funkenstein" Subject: Re: (orbital) A BIG NEW IDEA >2) DO NOT post anything unless you have a strong background on the subject. Well, that's a great idea, but in who's judgement is that? I think that some members of this list have proven themselves QUITE unable to judge their expertise on certain subjects. >3) Finally, THINK BEFORE YOU POST. I don't want to see any of this flaming >shit anymore. If the post is against someone....do us all a favor and send it >PRIVATELY...otherwise don't send it at all....this will free up the list for >some intelligent discussion and information...... Well, that would be a good idea, but last time the big flame/debate thing ended the list was nearly silent. Maybe instead of crying about "stop the flames, stop the flames" some of you people complaining should try to steer the list on to a more productive topic. People want to discuss stuff...that's why they're here. If a silly debate is all there is...that's what they'll get involved in. - ------------------------------------------------------ funkenstein@mail.rit.edu - http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 It's wild how you never know where your life could go So many try to slow your roll in these trails of life -Mystik Journeymen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) Internet (mint condition) for sale! >but really, could you > please reach out > for that knob at the back of your head labelled > "Arrogance" and turn it > down a bit? to like... 3-4 instead of the 8-10 it > seems to be rocking on? > Nobody likes a smartass... "but ours go to 11..." sorry, i couldn't resist throwing that in. if you don't get it, then you aren't cool and can't sit by me in the cafeteria during lunch :P brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:24:24 -0400 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) A few replies... Agust 'nemesis1' wrote: > > I bought "You Remixed Gong - phase 1 & 2" on a sale last week... > sweet jesus, this is FRIGGIN NICE stuff! but at the same time, had a deja-vu; > part of Youth's track I'm sure I've heard somewhere before... maybe on some > System 7 track? and the System 7 track, I'm perfectly sure I've heard that one > before by S7 under some other name. am I right? I havn't gone through my S7 > cds yet (always end up listening to something else, like all my Autechre cds > in random order ;) but I SWEAR I've head that track before by different name. > or I'm getting senile and I have it on mp3 somewhere and forgot about it... > anyways, I liked this cd. how does Phase 3 measure up to phase 1&2, and what > is all the Gong stuff like, the originals and the spin offs? :) Check Squarepusher's Dimotane Co (off of Feed Me Weird Things). I think the first song ripped the main sample from that. Ahh well. It's a good sample to rip. For good Gong stuff, check Gong's You. (Get it? "You Remixed Gong"?) > (and for those who proclaim ignorance and that sarcasm is so hard to > 'get' on internet, there are many ways of doing it. like putting some > kinda statement into your sentence/mail/page/text which makes sure that > people might get the clue that This Should Not Be Taken Seriously At > All People. that's why I love smileys. sure, people can misunderstand > smileys, but still, most people seem to understand the difference > between a :) and a ;) within the context of the text in question... I have seen many a fight start because somebody forgot to insert two characters. So, for fuck's sake, please remember your smileys! "Shannon K. Campbell" wrote: > > Sorry about that!!! > I get it all the time too. {i'm male too if anybody gives a shit} Really?? No offense, but I'm sorry about your name. I was under the impression that you were female. > But the whole thing sux. He seemed genuine in his confusion > and I apologized for accusing him of maliciously trying to > pull this shit, but I pointed out to the guy that selling a > US bootleg in the US is NOT an Import and that further Niether > that disc od the Worcester disc were OFFICIAL Orbital merchandice > and should NOT be advertised on EBay as if they were. > > P&P have been really cool about everyone getting along. > But if this kind of crap continues, they may have no sayso > in stopping it 'cause it willl be the lawyers at FFRR who are > gonna come ruin the nice party. > Corporates don't fuk around with this shit. > They're like the mafia and have to make a reputation > for enforcement. Well, the way I see it, any live concert should be freely available. Maybe it's my open-source spirit, but hey...it works for Pearl Jam. However, fraud is another issue. Selling shit and calling it an import is BS and it ain't cool. No CD, import or otherwise, should be fifty fucking dollars! "Dr. Funkenstein" wrote: > > Well, that would be a good idea, but last time the big flame/debate thing > ended the list was nearly silent. Maybe instead of crying about "stop the > flames, stop the flames" some of you people complaining should try to steer > the list on to a more productive topic. People want to discuss > stuff...that's why they're here. If a silly debate is all there > is...that's what they'll get involved in. I argee. I can count about 20-30 posts about bitching on flames/arguments/me, instead of more productive shit. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (sineswiper@resonatorsoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.resonatorsoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:29:19 EDT From: Ihastarla@aol.com Subject: (orbital) im back * aol * amp first i must say... the show in philly was incredible... ive seen orbital before, but this was amazing.... the crowd was so into it... and now i wonder where all those orbital fans came from and disappeared to well, i havent been on this mailing list for ages... 2 years probably and all i have to say is, damn, people got hostile since then i totally agree with that if you are going to bitch at someone, send it to them dont show off your cleverness to everyone... to whomever said that aol is a free address.... nope, i pay 20 bucks a month but yea, i would be shady of aol people... theyre a weird bunch as for amp.... i have mixed feelings on that show.... i love that i can see some of my favorite songs in video form but the fact that a. its not on every week b. sometimes its pushed back to 3am without warning is not right.... i like to tape it just so i can have the one or two songs i like on video and it is not right for me to wait till 3 am and find out its not on.... oh.... and what was with the last 2 amps anyway??? how much is astralwerks paying mtv... or at least the chemical brothers... if you are going to show songs live... why not show more of a variety than the chemical brothers and fatboy slim and did anyone else think last weeks amp starting off with a thank you to astralwerks and 3 chemical brothers videos was a little bit excessive? least they could have done was show the setting sun video if they were gonna show the others.... it seemed like last weeks show was the top 10 'electronica' artists that mtv jocks show.... variety is the spice of life and mtv drains way too much life outta me..... even one hour a week well... thats my rant :) stArLa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:16:51 +0200 From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" Subject: RE: (orbital) The Saint live Has anyone seen Orbital play this live? I saw them do it at Tribal Gathering in 1997 or was it 98 - whenever it was they were there and played just after Kraftwerk. I don't think they did a proper tour that year and it was a one off set list. Has anyone seen them do it anywhere else? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:19:07 -0400 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Sorry Hey all. I'm sorry about any of the flames I started. Some of them were uncalled for; some of them were me getting pissed off at somebody getting pissed off at me for getting pissed off. I'm still a little edgy about the treatment I got in the beginning, even if I did started bashing some guy that didn't exist. But hey, how would you feel if your very first OML message was some guy bashing a band you really liked for stupid reasons? And then it degraded into Moby bashing (which I thought everybody thought was "limp-dicked"; silly me) vs. bigbeat bashing. And then somebody else started correcting me with breakbeat/bigbeat shit. (You accuse -ME- of getting into catagory wars?!) Of course, some people still get pissed off with me because of that incident, and it degrades into further flaming shit. (Bah, like you hypocrites haven't precipitated in flame wars. :) Ahhh, but anyway...I'm willing to clear any past flame histories if the rest of you are. No shit about insulting our techno/electronica intelligence. No grudges. No band bashing, unless you want to put a big fat "IMFO" on it. No bitching about the quantity of posts. (Please...I thought posting a lot was a GOOD thing. I'd much rather have 50 posts than zero.) I still argee that catagorization is a necessity, but I didn't want that little techno/electronica argument to start anyway. That's was a miscommuncation error with two different meanings. Oh, and the reason I'm so big on catagorization is that it's something that most people could argee with, if the catagories are well-defined. To respond to all of the "just think 'music you like' and 'music you don't like'", I'll quote Beavis and Butthead: "Why do they play stuff that sucks? They should take out the stuff that sucks and just play stuff that's cool." "Yeah...huh huh...that'd kick ass!" Besides, I'd like to figure out what is what and not sound like a moron, like calling NIN "techno". (I guess that's still debatable, but NIN is more of a half-breed.) - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (sineswiper@resonatorsoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.resonatorsoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:22:28 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) A few replies... On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:24:24 -0400 Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: # I have seen many a fight start because somebody forgot to insert two # characters. So, for fuck's sake, please remember your smileys! Hmm. I wonder who started those fights then? -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) ) "We're not dropping out here, we're infiltrating ( ( and taking over." ) ) ( | http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/~cheab | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:54:49 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Sorry First of all, you are a big man for apologizing. but... >(which I thought everybody thought was "limp-dicked"; Here is where it starts again.... >(Bah, like you hypocrites haven't precipitated in flame wars. :) And yet again....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:55:53 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) A few replies... >Hmm. I wonder who started those fights then? Stop trying to pick a fight.....were you picked on in school? (just wondering) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #248 *****************************