From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #305 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Friday, March 3 2000 Volume 02 : Number 305 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:30:14 PST From: "Ryan Downs" Subject: (orbital) Back from London Well, I just got back from London, and I had a blast! I went to a few clubs, and I was impressed. I tried to get into The End on Friday night, but I didn't have ID (as I was under 18) and they wouldn't let me and my friend in. As we were heading back to the Tube, we spotted the Bar Rumba, and we were let in, no questions asked! It was cool. Norman Jay (I think) was spinning, and it was a lot of fun. The next night they wouldn't let me into the Bar Rumba cuz I didn't have boots, so I asked the bouncer if there was another club nearby, and he suggested Wag. My friends and I went, and had a blast. At first I couldn't get into the music too well, cuz it was a lot of 60's stuff, but we went back downstairs (as we had been upstairs) and they were playing some more "danceable" stuff (as far as I was concerned :~) Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone cares, but London, just in those two clubs alone, kicks the ass of the club scene around where I live. Peace Out, - -Ryan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:47:34 -0500 From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) {off} Grammys Hey I meant to mention this a few days ago... ?Did anybody catch the Afro-Cuban Allstars with lead singer Ibrahim Ferrer?!! This guy is like 90 something and JAMMING! If you kids haven't seen Ry Cooder's movie "Buena Vista Social Club", I highly recommend it. It's on video so you can even rent it in KnoXville!! Anyway, the movie translates all the songs and they have tons of footage of the Afro-Cuban Allstars playing and being interviewed in Havana. The other really cool guy in the movie is the pianist, Rueben Gonzalez. He was REALLY REALLY old and I noticed he was not on the Grammys thing. I think he's passed on to ages, but his solo disc from a couple of years ago is GREAT! Get it! PAY FULL Price! and get the Afro-Cuban AllStars' disc too. [As Appollo 440 says] "!Goin' to Miami!" {Carrera Rapida!} I'm off to F-L-A manyana for a printmaker's conference and mid 80's! Too bad it's not a month later though, as I've been getting all this news from Astralwerks about the Winter Music Conference. Astral is sponsoring Fat Boy and a bunch of others at a club called Level and I think there's stuff like this all over town that week. Oh well... Might just have to go back in APRIL!!! Cas, Mehul, Ian ... A few more days, please! ShannON + ON + ON H-i-S Way to F-L-A ! ! ! with THE Dawn! Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday! - -- ______________ s. k. campbell _____________________ UT.Med.Ctr.@Knoxville The Image Processing Lab ph.423.544.9693 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:49:57 EST From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) FTP Sites (2) Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I attend Northeastern University in Boston, ground zero of Napster (invented in Smith Hall, Hemenway Street!!). The whole reason why I'm introducing her to FTPing is because they f'n blocked Napster from my school. I'd bounce off the MIT server (I know people that work the T3 over there), but I know she'll be all scared to do that and stuff. Hell, I'm a little scared to do that. To lose my network connection would suck major ass, and lots of it. Don't want to risk that, now do I? :-) Later, Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:55:20 -0700 From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: Re: (orbital) {off} Grammys Shannon noted: >>> [snip] If you kids haven't seen Ry Cooder's movie "Buena Vista Social Club", I highly recommend it. It's on video so you can even rent it in KnoXville!! Anyway, the movie translates all the songs and they have tons of footage of the Afro-Cuban Allstars playing and being interviewed in Havana. The other really cool guy in the movie is the pianist, Rueben Gonzalez. He was REALLY REALLY old and I noticed he was not on the Grammys thing. I think he's passed on to ages, but his solo disc from a couple of years ago is GREAT! Get it! PAY FULL Price! and get the Afro-Cuban AllStars' disc too.<<< I want to second this recommendation strongly, but urge you to see and hear this film on DVD or in the theater if possible. The sound is extraordinary, and the color cinematography superb. Directed by former new wave German director Wim Wenders. [ - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone at (602) 262-5311. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:55:59 -0500 From: aimee couture Subject: Re: (orbital) FTP Sites (2) rob: yeah getting caught doing that would kinda suck.. however if northeastern's anything like here [university of western ontario].. they'd drag you into its, make you apologize and you'd have your access back in a week. i should know, i work for the university here as a residence network consultant ;] aimee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:05:20 -0700 (MST) From: Nub Subject: [none] > Paul Oakenfold, April 3rd, DV8(500 people max club?) In Seattle. How > long will this set be most likely? i want to tape it. And whose this > Dave Ralph fella? Worth taping? How long is his set. as i recall, dave ralph was on for an hour and a half, and oakey was on for over two hours. ralph is evidently an up-and-coming trance dj - he's responsible for tranceport II. he was very good - pounding, relentless, not as uplifting as a typical oaky track, but the crowd loved him. oakey was great, of course. as for the venue, for some reason they're booking some strange places for this tour. when i saw them in denver it was at the ogden, this sort of seedy old theatre where GWAR was playing the next week. so there you have it. > It's simple body chemistry. Drinking alcohol has a bad effect on you > when you dance (ie: dehydrastion). whatever dude. given a club where my options are alcohol vs. sober, i'll take a couple long islands any day. AND dance my ass off, so there. no it's not healthy, but neither is staying up til 7am. marc, dammit, i can't get onto your ftp! p/l = orbital/orbital, yes? take it easy, nub ps. anyone into cut-up dnb/drill n bass a la mike paradinas should check out hrvatski. they've got a page up at mp3.com. interesting stuff. pps. anyone have an opinion on nick warren? he's coming to a small club in boulder in march. sounded interesting... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:11:40 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Coldcut & Friends... Anybody know where I can find any of Coldcut's friends, like Outer Bongolia and DJ Lord Fader, on CD? I can't find record of their names anywhere, American or British sites. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:16:30 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Re: Nub wrote: > > > It's simple body chemistry. Drinking alcohol has a bad effect on you > > when you dance (ie: dehydrastion). > > whatever dude. given a club where my options are alcohol vs. sober, i'll > take a couple long islands any day. AND dance my ass off, so there. no > it's not healthy, but neither is staying up til 7am. That's why you take drugs, my friend. There a plenty of drugs that are better for you for dancing, and yes, they do dehydrate, but I'd rather trip my ass off and dance hard, than get drunk and dance like a fucking sea-sick crab. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 02:43:20 +0000 From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Back from London > From: "Ryan Downs" > Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone cares, but London, just in those two clubs > alone, kicks the ass of the club scene around where I live. > IMHO London kicks ANYTHINGS butt musical-wise! 8) I've been to a few places, but i have yet to see something that even comes close to London (or England generally for that matter!) as the ULTIMATE spawning pool for musical styles, new bands, great club culture and musical talents! 8) Fucken amazed what these Brits always come up with, please do keep in mind that our beloved Orbital was named after an important part in London's Techno-Subculture and that they got big in London first! ;-D DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 02:43:21 +0000 From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: > That's why you take drugs, my friend. There a plenty of drugs that are > better for you for dancing, and yes, they do dehydrate, but I'd rather > trip my ass off and dance hard, than get drunk and dance like a fucking > sea-sick crab. > Naaah! 8) Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left aside, hehe... I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8) but afterall it's for the music and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so! The Shamen: "Entertainment starts with an e"? - i don't fucking think so, not necessarily...! >;-D For example that BT Hybrid track (is that Brian Transeau?) from Y3K that's playing just now is SHEER fucking PLEASURE! 8) One time the Loveparade's motto was "Music is the only drug" - well, it certainly isn't the ONLY one, and the sentence sounds pathetic, but i still would subscribe to that!.. DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 02:08:12 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs... deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > Naaah! 8) > > Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left > aside, hehe... Yeah, uh-huh. Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine. I'm not one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either. Like it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every chemical your brain and body puts out. Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"? > I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with > chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now > without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And > i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i > can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too > sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8) but afterall it's for the music > and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though > that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so! Man, what is up with that straightedge motto? NOBODY FEELS THAT WAY! I only take drugs on occasion. I like dancing and partying. Drugs aren't the root of all evil. They are just something to do when you feel like it. > The Shamen: "Entertainment starts with an e"? - i don't fucking think > so, not necessarily...! >;-D > > For example that BT Hybrid track (is that Brian Transeau?) from Y3K > that's playing just now is SHEER fucking PLEASURE! 8) One time the > Loveparade's motto was "Music is the only drug" - well, it certainly > isn't the ONLY one, and the sentence sounds pathetic, but i still > would subscribe to that!.. I get high off of all kinds of things, including drugs and music. Me listening to Orbital's GSH gives me a high, just like taking a hit of acid. (Though, the acid lasts longer.) I get a high off of watching a good movie. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 02:10:12 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Back from London deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > Fucken amazed what these Brits always come up with, please do keep in > mind that our beloved Orbital was named after an important part in > London's Techno-Subculture and that they got big in London first! ;-D Come on now! Don't insult our intelligence...we all know that the British music scene is much better than anything we've got here :) - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:36:19 +0000 From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs... > deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > > > Naaah! 8) > > > > Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left > > aside, hehe... > > Yeah, uh-huh. Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine. I'm not > one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either. Like > it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every > chemical your brain and body puts out. > Wouldn't you say that the Tomato that you grow in your own backyard is MORE healthy than the canned, chemically treated tomatoes that you can buy in the supermarket? Sure we are bombarded with food-chemicals all day long, but that's something EVERYBODY hates and so why even support it and go further? I simply dislike taking chemicals that were especially designed to fuck with my metabolism, that DIRECTLY stimulate certain neurotransmitters etc.... THC sure is also a chemical, but it was never DESIGNED to act in one special way whose consequences are mostly unknown!.. It's like with chemical food really: It sure TASTES nicer than selfmade stuff sometimes, but that's only due to a special mixture of chemicals that show their consequences way later! btw: When i was in America, i noticed that there was an extensively larger number of old/elder people walking around using walking-aids and other devices than in Germany.... My own theory is that this *might* be due to the fact of artificial food having a longer history and being more accepted in America!... Americans tend only to watch for Fat-free, Sugar-free and so on while neglecting the mere HEALTHINESS of the product, e.g. nobody cares for sabilisators, taste enhancers and so on!.. Did you know that Nutrasweet can cause an array of permanent symptoms when the beverage including it was only ONCE over a certain temperature cause the nutrasweet chemical splits up into two molecules, one of which is a strong nervous poison (in a small dosis, one can of Coke light won't kill you, but 1000 might!)? The Gulf war had some evidence of this... However it took a long time to notice this cause the effects were so varying that everyone just thought it was a regular disease like Alzheimer or Multiple Sklerosis, when in fact it was just that nervous poison damaging *different* parts of the brain! The Nutrasweet producing company ofcourse knew from day 1 about these side-effects but they simply gave a shit as they always do as long as the margins are right!... Hooray for capitalism! THAT'S what happens when you fuck with chemicals! > Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"? > Straight and simple: Ever heard of anyone overdoing on hemp? 8)) Cocaine - yes Smack - yes Acid - yes E - yes Speed - yes anything else chemical prolly also yes, hell even ALCOHOL (can you say Jim Morrison? 8) And Hemp grows in the fields and has a history of 10.000 years of usage, so don't even TRY to compare that to e.g. Extasy! >:-) Another thing: violence.... ever heard of ANYONE being violent cause of hemp-usage? LOL! 8) The mere THOUGHT is so fuckin funny!.. "Hey, dude, i'm gonna beat you up! But first i gotta smoke this bong...Wow man! Naah, i won't beat you up, too much hassle!" I for sure know (most) other drugs have a totally opposite effect, just take Alcohol!... I could go on forever with this.... 8) Bad question! ;-D > > I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with > > chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now > > without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And > > i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i > > can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too > > sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8) but afterall it's for the music > > and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though > > that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so! > > Man, what is up with that straightedge motto? NOBODY FEELS THAT WAY! I > only take drugs on occasion. I like dancing and partying. Drugs aren't > the root of all evil. They are just something to do when you feel like > it. > I never said they are the root of all evil! 8) Like said, i enjoy weed every now and then, too, and i tolerate others taking drugs, it's everyone's own choice!.. But people need to recall what they are actually doing and that they should be careful with it as it can quickly fuck up their brain and/or life!.. I've for sure met some SERIOUSLY fucked-in-the-head people that did chemicals! And i just want them to recall what this is all about: music! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:50:00 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs... deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > > Yeah, uh-huh. Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine. I'm not > > one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either. Like > > it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every > > chemical your brain and body puts out. > > > Wouldn't you say that the Tomato that you grow in your own backyard > is MORE healthy than the canned, chemically treated tomatoes that you > can buy in the supermarket? It depends on the chemicals. If they are safe for you than so be it. Do you think that naturally grown tobacco plant is MORE healthy than the canned, chemically treated tomatoes? > Sure we are bombarded with food-chemicals all day long, but that's > something EVERYBODY hates and so why even support it and go further? Oh, I dunno. If it wasn't for some food-chemicals, farmers would lose their crops. Now, it helps if those chemicals were non-toxic, of course, but to descriminate towards all chemicals is close-minded and stereotypical. > I simply dislike taking chemicals that were especially designed to > fuck with my metabolism, that DIRECTLY stimulate certain > neurotransmitters etc.... THC sure is also a chemical, but it was > never DESIGNED to act in one special way whose consequences are > mostly unknown!.. And THC doesn't do that? THC is a drug just like any other. If you refined it to its purest form (seperate it from the plant), I'm sure some stupid kid would figure out a way to kill himself. It DIRECTLY stimulates certain neurotransmitters, and we don't know all the details of how it works either. > It's like with chemical food really: It sure TASTES > nicer than selfmade stuff sometimes, but that's only due to > a special mixture of chemicals that show their consequences way > later! Huh? A "selfmade" tomato tastes just like a store-bought tomato. > btw: When i was in America, i noticed that there was an extensively > larger number of old/elder people walking around using walking-aids > and other devices than in Germany.... My own theory is that this > *might* be due to the fact of artificial food having a longer history > and being more accepted in America!... Americans tend only to watch > for Fat-free, Sugar-free and so on while neglecting the mere > HEALTHINESS of the product, e.g. nobody cares for sabilisators, taste > enhancers and so on!.. That's a -REALLY- unscientific theory! > Did you know that Nutrasweet can cause an > array of permanent symptoms when the beverage including it was only > ONCE over a certain temperature cause the nutrasweet chemical splits > up into two molecules, one of which is a strong nervous poison (in > a small dosis, one can of Coke light won't kill you, but 1000 > might!)? The Gulf war had some evidence of this... However it took a > long time to notice this cause the effects were so varying that > everyone just thought it was a regular disease like Alzheimer or > Multiple Sklerosis, when in fact it was just that nervous poison > damaging *different* parts of the brain! The Nutrasweet producing > company ofcourse knew from day 1 about these side-effects but they > simply gave a shit as they always do as long as the margins are > right!... That's one theory. Another is the injections they give the soldiers to protect them from chemical/bio warfare was causing it. I hear a new theory on Gulf War syndrome every month. > Hooray for capitalism! I hate capitalism. Need to go to socialism, but that's a debate for another time and place. > > Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"? > > > Straight and simple: Ever heard of anyone overdoing on hemp? 8)) > Cocaine - yes > Smack - yes > Acid - yes > E - yes > Speed - yes > anything else chemical prolly also yes, hell even ALCOHOL (can you > say Jim Morrison? 8) Tobacco - yes. And alcohol is made from good ol' wholesome grain and other plants. I argee that hemp is one of the safest plants you can smoke, but to justify it just because it's "home-grown" is denying some basic facts about chemistry. Anything home-grown has the same odds to kill you as anything chemical. Now, you can fuck up making a chemical drug, but that's because it's illegal and it's up to some college chemistry grad to make the stuff. I'll take that risk. But, I could smoke a naturally-grown holly plant and it would still make me sick. > And Hemp grows in the fields and has a history of 10.000 years of > usage, so don't even TRY to compare that to e.g. Extasy! >:-) > Another thing: violence.... ever heard of ANYONE being violent cause > of hemp-usage? LOL! 8) The mere THOUGHT is so fuckin funny!.. > "Hey, dude, i'm gonna beat you up! But first i gotta smoke this > bong...Wow man! Naah, i won't beat you up, too much hassle!" > I for sure know (most) other drugs have a totally opposite effect, > just take Alcohol!... > I could go on forever with this.... 8) Bad question! ;-D Do you know how long it took to figure out that tobacco was cancerous? We smoked it for thousands of years and only now figured that out. I think it has more to do with our current rate of technology, but that's proof that the time it's been around is irrelevant. About violence with drugs, alcohol is about the only drug I know of that does that. For example: Hemp = - E = - LSD = - K = - Coke = 0 Speed = 0 Alcohol = + Notice that the four most popular rave drugs actually detract from violence. Coke and speed are cousins of caffiene and have much of the same effect. All three of them have nothing to do with violence or lack of judgement. E is speed with some happiness put in. Alcohol doesn't mix well with any of them, but I wouldn't recommend a guy taking anti-depressants to take most of those drugs anyway. > I never said they are the root of all evil! 8) Like said, i enjoy > weed every now and then, too, and i tolerate others taking drugs, > it's everyone's own choice!.. But people need to recall what they are > actually doing and that they should be careful with it as it can > quickly fuck up their brain and/or life!.. I've for sure met some > SERIOUSLY fucked-in-the-head people that did chemicals! Of course. I'm an advocate of researching the shit you put in your mouth. You should definately be careful. I remember a girl that held up a very small (and empty) bag and ask what kind of drug would be in this kind of bag. Stupid! I have several rules on taking drugs that I live by. I know it's a risk, but it's a risk that I'm willing to take. If it were legal, it would be much safer. > And i just want them to recall what this is all about: music! 8) Raving is not ALL about the music. It's about having fun. I never go to a rave to listen to some DJ that I don't know spin music. I really don't care too much about who's playing. I have favorites, but I don't go to a rave BECAUSE s/he's playing. I like to dance. I like to socialize. I like to take drugs. I like to see some guy do some crazy breakdancing, or mess around with a "raver toy". Music is one the things I also like, but it's not everything. It's not ALL about the music. - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:40:41 +0200 From: chump Subject: (orbital) http://www.jibjab.com/cartoons/frameindex.asp?dir=extras&file=cl_movie01.htm kinda kewl - -- bye chump chump@netvision.net.il # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:47:49 -0500 From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) orbital, mbm oolaa hey Philip sent me the MBM remix of Oolaa, and it's in the upload directory, called Orbital - Oolaa (MBM remix), or something. good stuff, just to clear up the confused people trying to download the .rars. oh, and if you went to my site and there was only the upload folder, I'm really sorry, that's all fixed now. Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:36:20 EST From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) Way off topic Alright, when FTPing, I get various errors... Is there anyway I can find out what errors like this mean? "421 Unable to connect to remote server. Try again later." What the hell does "421" mean? Thanks, Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:44:35 +0000 From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Way off topic > Alright, when FTPing, I get various errors... > > Is there anyway I can find out what errors like this mean? > > "421 Unable to connect to remote server. Try again later." > > What the hell does "421" mean? > > Thanks, > Rob It means: "I'm unable to connect to the remote server. Try again later!" ;-D No really, that's it basically, it means the server is unreachable, and 421 is only the return code, much like the legendary 404 which means "http not found"!... and the return code of 421 means the above, that's it... DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:38:08 +0100 From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" Subject: RE: (orbital) Well? I've been waiting for someone to comment on 'The Beached' single. Are the versions included different to the one on the soundtrack album? Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 05:50:00 -0600 From: Digger Subject: RE: (orbital) Well? I don't know....but I love the soundtrack! I'm interested in knowing about the single too...somone spill! Thanks! At 10:38 AM 3/3/00 +0100, you wrote: >I've been waiting for someone to comment on 'The Beached' single. >Are the versions included different to the one on the soundtrack album? >Phil Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com "And Now I'm Aching For You...But there's much to do 'cause there's NOTHING LEFT" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:41:55 GMT From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: RE: (orbital) Well? So, somebody has to step up to the task then, Orbital & Angelo Badalamenti - Beached - the single released on 28th February 2000. Track Listing : Beached (Radio edit) Beached (Long version) Doctor, lookout! The radio edit of Beached is the annoying version I heard lots of complaints about. Leo keeps talking all through the track and ruins a completely good tune. The long version is the one I once offered on MP3 until I heard about this release, it has only some Leo-talk at the very start and some again in the end after about 7 minutes of aural pleasure with Orbital's remix of the original The Beach theme. I haven't got the soundtrack, but I reckon the album version is probably a lot like these two versions, only one's a shorter edit and the other has some extra build-up added before its climax and that "silver-lining classic film"-ish string part that tunes in between the bassline with a sort of female chorus doing their "hallelujah" aaaaah-thing. If this makes _ANY_ sense. Doctor, lookout! anyway, is a scorcher! Absolutely cracking, it sounds so much like an earlier Orbital tune and it's splitting my head trying to figure out just which one. I'm not sure whether the Doctor part in the title refers to an ongoing thing for Orbital to use samples from Dr. Who, but I reckon that's where they come from anyway. Backed by what I could only characterise as an experimental, deep bassline and led by an arcade-like whooshy lead and a female chorus, it clearly stands out as the better track of the single, not the B-side it's supposed to be. (in my humble opinion anyway). I'm not sure about that second lead I just can't pinpoint however, but I am fairly positive these chords have been used earlier only with a different arrangement. The single is worth getting, not for Beached, but for this last track in my opinion. But of course, Beached is also a good track but nothing as monumental as the former. I never said I was a reviewer so you'll have to do with this subjective, unprofessional review. Input-out, Trym In a mail fairly recently, Digger wrote: >I don't know....but I love the soundtrack! > >I'm interested in knowing about the single too...somone spill! Thanks! > >At 10:38 AM 3/3/00 +0100, you wrote: > >I've been waiting for someone to comment on 'The Beached' single. > >Are the versions included different to the one on the soundtrack album? > >Phil >Thanks, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:03:21 +0000 From: Jon Green Subject: RE: (orbital) Well? At 16:41 03/03/00 +0000, Trym Asserson wrote: >So, somebody has to step up to the task then, OK, my thoughts then: I like the tune on Beached, the bassline and beat are a bit lumpy though, but it's a decent track. Far better than the average chart fodder, of course. The vocals are, as I think's been agreed before, the worst point, but at least they're confined to the intro on the long version. As for Doctor, Lookout, I too reckon the sample's from Doctor Who, or maybe that's too obvious? The drums sound rather TGWTSIHH to me, and the tune seems to be a bit like that Madonna remix they did. In fact, most of it sounds sort-of similar to previous stuff, but, like Trym, I can't place much of it. Do I like it? Hmmm, not sure. It's infuriating at the moment 'cos I can't figure out what each bit sounds lie, which is doing my head in! I have to give it some more listens, but I'm too busy with the AUX88 Electro Boogie mix CD these days... cheers, Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #305 *****************************