From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #331 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Sunday, May 7 2000 Volume 02 : Number 331 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 02:30:56 -0400 From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) good while it lasted well, I'm goin home tomorrow, and you know what that means... 56k = connection... crap ftp transfer rates. =3D (.=A0 No shoutcast broadcast. = =3D = (.=A0 In fact, my computer is turned off already, so no last-ditch effort= s = to nab my stuff.=A0 Sorry guys, not my fault, I'll be back up this fall!=A0= = Meanwhile, though, it's not like I'm going anywhere, I just won't have a = fast connection.=A0 Have a good summer everyone! Marc Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:13:26 +0100 From: Richard Belbin Subject: Re: (orbital) Who is Scott Walker? >My question is "who is Scott Walker?". >I get that he's the organiser, but the article implies that he will be >performing with Orbital as well. Formerly half of the Walker Brothers who had monster hits in the mid-sixties with The Sun Aint Gonna Shine Any More, Make It Easy On Yourself, and No Regrets. His later solo albums - ingeniously entitled Scott 1, 2, 3, and 4 were crrtically well-received but didnt sell that well. His last release - Tilt a couple of years back was massively critically acclaimed, but more generally considered to be unlistenable (I've never actaully heard it). his vocal style is pretty unique, or was, its now been 'borrowed' by several people - most notably Julian Cope, who championed Scotty quite loudly. The Meltdowns been going on for a few years, hosted by an interesting variety of people (John Peel, and I think jarvis Cocker have done one) who put on an almost bizarre variety of music. Its actually kinda started all ready - I went to see Wire in February as a part of it, and Julain Cope got to put on an utterly fantabulous two day mini-festy in April. I very much doubt Scott will appear with Orbital, or anyone - tho it'd be damned interesting to see it if it did happen. I must say I hate the South bank Centre as a venue, tho the sounds great, and you get a great big stage which can be well used (as Im sure Orbital will), its one of those places where you must sit down, not smoke, and politely applaud - just no atmosphere man. I saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall, and it was the same story there - i think people want to play there for thje pseudo-cred it involces, rather than because its a good venue. Give me Brixton Academy or the Forum anyday. Rich Now spinning round my head: Dark Star I Am the Sun Jeff Mills Detached Clinic Return of Evil Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 01:48:17 +0000 From: Mark S-D Subject: (orbital) I have no idea, but then I thought of this From: Marc Sawaya >Excellent post, sounds like you're doing some intensive introspective and social philosophical work. I've had an attachment to meditation in order to avoid an anxiety I could not understand, and took up Zen, but it amounts up to much the same thing. :-) Thanks for your gratitude, but you owe it all to yourself. (little joke there of mine) >For some reason it tends to target us 'Marks' out, so it's interesting to see someone who's going through the same stuff I have, with the same name. As for your post, I agree with many of the points you made, was offended by none, but I do think your perspective will tone down a little bit, know what I mean? I think I do now, I know a lot less than I thought ! Mean egotism can become the enemy of the best of us sometimes, a terrifying thought to accept oneself completely - as somebody once said, who was that - Carl Jung I think. Basically you can't go round telling people how they should be otherwise you end up facing the consequences at some point. Common sense really, but for some unknown reason it eluded me at the time ! >Most people think that science is obviously and logically associated with technology, I can't remember where I read this but I think technology used to mean "art", I have some recollection about ancient Greece and mythology, I could go and read up again, perhaps it's best I don't clog up the list too much with this stuff mind you. >but it has only been this way for 500 years. Science has also generated the image of perfection and reason, inherent in the 'scientific method'. This is also an illusion, as science is used to the interest of whoever pays the scientists. Heh ! I'd agree with this. The scientific method can also be seen in another context too...personally I'd say it's wrong to give up the scientific method completely when it brings us things like quantum mechanics, but a hard-nosed scientific outlook on everything is about as mystical as you can get ! But then, nobody *has* to agree on everything when it comes right down to it - and evidently they don't. >They don't research effects their studies have on the planet, or even the effect they have on people. That's the job of the government, which is supposed to protect us from the corporations. Highly unlikely. This has been bothering me for a very long time now. I don't pretend I have answers to this anymore, but thats not to say answers can't be found.... If you should see yourself as an invidual or a government there is never any reason, as far as I am concerned, to put aside ones responsibilitys to others, or think you are better or any more worthy than anyone else in any way whatsoever. Be careful for the things you wish for too... > our philosophy that it is ours (given by God) I ask I may offer my humble opinion here. I don't believe in the personification of God and whats more I don't think God does either. I think it is in the Hindu faith which says it really doesn't matter which God you follow and what name this is given, you will find yourself in the process. Like people who climb the same mountain claiming their path is 'right' and others are 'wrong' but when the summit is reached you are all together again only seeing the scars you have caused together with a very pleasant view. :-) An attitude of acceptance rather than tolerance is more in order I would say, regardless of faith or scientific standpoint. IMHO. Much is said in the Bible and you can pick and choose the truths you may hold true to separate yourself from fellow humans in order to gain a sense of belonging or righteousness, but some people are able to read between the lines in what Jesus may have said and come into a great truth for themselves. Heaven and hell is a duality which only serves to keep the book alive and the child to burn, such insistence that these places exist outside life produces much unnecessary harm. DeeKay: >Also what mark s-d said is not true atleast for germany, we have quite some research going in the environmental field, from what i know Germany is leader worldwide in environmental technology! This is not meant to be propaganda for gemany or me saying we're the better people, i just wanted to show you that there's hope at the end of the horizon! ;-D I think it was somebody else who said that, possibly the other Mark ! But much thanks !! I would say there is more than hope, there will be much change always, keep an open mind much will come of it, it's a wonderful thing. >>But seriously, try upgrading the Windows Media Player, maybe it'll work. >No fuckin way! ;-D I won't ever install a M$ product unless i >absolutely have to!.. Heh !! Install Linux and run Windows through that Windows emulator, think it's called WINE isn't it ? That should do the trick just nicely ! When Microsoft finally get round to writing a Linux emulator this whole problems just going to be completely sussed. I really can't wait ! Brian Willoughby >Forgive me for screaming in my first post in a while, but I found Middle of >Nowhere selling for $326.53 on GEMM ! How may I forgive you, you whining windbag...it's worth every penny ! >Who do they think we are? Customers silly ! From: "Ian Mahuron" >>80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 >You could get a bit more clever Patrick! >Some kind of arbitrary bit rotation would throw most people off. >$_ = "80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110"; >print map(pack("C*", $_) , split); The ghost in the machine, now this is just plain spooky ! Goodbye all (for now), much love, - -- - -- Mark S-D "Beans beans good for your heart..the more you eat..the more you ****" - Popeye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 01:13:05 GMT From: "e. lanum" Subject: (orbital) recording real content is there anyway to record radio broadcasts from the internet? ex i wanna tape the essential mixes on bbc1 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 01:16:07 -0700 From: Digger Subject: (orbital) Touring? Could someone (more informed than I) please let me know if Orbital will be touring any time soon? How 'bout us deprived folks in the states?? :-) Thanks! Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com "And Now I'm Aching For You...But there's much to do 'cause there's NOTHING LEFT" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:58:56 +0000 From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) Touring? >Could someone (more informed than I) please let me know if Orbital will >be touring any time soon? How 'bout us deprived folks in the states?? They'll be doing a tour later this year - autumn / winter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #331 *****************************