From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #344 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Wednesday, June 28 2000 Volume 02 : Number 344 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:31:42 -0700 From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Re: DO NOT SHOP AT CD UNIVERSE UNLESS YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT CD universe told most people to go fly a kite and it wasn't their fault that their cards were stolen and thousands of dollars were charged. CD universe still runs an insecure system and insecure software which is still prone to such attacks. Again if you want to waste your time and money listen to people like arni. If you're like me an you value your time and your money. Don't. If you need any confirmation of this goto www.dvdtalk.com and search the forums for cd universe. You'll see consistent widespread hatred... Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson wrote: angel@dimension6.com wrote: > 1) TOTALLY INSECURE, THEY'VE CAUSED MASSIVE HEADACHES FOR THOUSANDS OF > CREDIT CARD OWNERS IN THE PAST WHEN THEY WERE HACKED > it happened once. > sure, someone used my cc# once, I complained, it was cancelled out. end of > story > > >2) LOUSY SERVICE > > bull fucking shit > I've shopped there for almost 3 years, and they have provided me with some > of the very best service I've seen on the net :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:16:32 +0000 From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) Hey, Mr. Booker! Argue against THIS! > ...Wow! In-fucking-credbile! The amount of dirt in this on the RIAA and > the recording industry is unbelievable... How'd that song go again ? ... pimps..pushers..prostitutes... >From: angel@dimension6.com >DO NOT SHOP AT CD UNIVERSE UNLESS YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT I'm gasping for air !! - -- - -- Mark S D Some people have a way with words, while others... erm... thingy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:25:49 +0200 From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: RE: (orbital) HOB.COM webcast - Copying Media Player Streams? Here's my idea on the issue: There are plugins for Winamp that play .asf files.. Now couldn't we simply use the diskwriter output to stream a decoded .wav file (for burning) directly to disk? 8) I've done this with (non-streaming) RA- files before (using the new winamp-RA plugin!).. Another option would be Xfileget, this one saves realaudio files, i suggest it saves .asf files, too, as .asf is assumably also based on regular UDP! DeeKay > Has anyone gotten this program to work with the Orbital stream?? And are > there any good Orbital (or electronic) media player streams I can test this > on? I've always wanted to be able to copy these but now I can do it and I > don't know what to get! > > Thanks for this link though that is exactly what I've been looking for! > > > > > > I believe it was Mehul (sorry if I'm attributing this to the wrong person) > > who posted a link to just such a program a few months back: > > > > www.voquette.com > > > > I've used it before and it's GREAT. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:31:21 PDT From: "Aronne Merrelli" Subject: (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. >Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:09:39 -0600 >From: "Mike Henderson" >Subject: (orbital) Re: Hey, Mr. Booker! Argue against THIS! > > > http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html > > > > ...Wow! In-fucking-credbile! The amount of dirt in this on the RIAA >and >the > > recording industry is unbelievable... > >There is one part of her argument that I think is weak. She says that >Okay, having said that, I still agree that the labels totally fuck over the >artists, I just want to dispute that the going it alone on the internet is >the way to make things right for the artists. > Well said. I think thats the only thing the majors are good for really, is making someone famous. So if that is your aim as a musician, then by all means go for it. I still think record labels (talking about the small independant ones now) are important, as a 'quality-filter'. I think pretty much everyone would be more inclined to buy a random release on a label with a good reputation than buy some random mp3.com artist's CD. The only thing mp3.com is useful for now is a place to store your music - I don't think anyone expects to get any promotion just by uploading stuff there. Its just too big and filled with crap, frankly. Regards, Aronne (hope I don't send 2 copies again this time... not sure how I managed that!) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:21:27 -0500 From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (orbital) looking for name of a track hi everyone... this is going to sound really stupid but i'm coming to the end of my rope over this... i recently attended a performance art type thing and there was a girl that did a belly dance routine to this really cool song that i'm now trying to find... it was dancey and had an egyptian motif to it... i seeem to remember a line, something about the pharoah giving to the people house music... i was a bit out of it that evening but if anyone can help at all, i would greatly appreciate it. cheers, lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:27:47 -0400 From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. Well, thank you very much for your kind words to those of us who have posted stuff on mp3.com at least its a place to hear stuff that you wouldnt get a chance to hear either through the mass media outlets etc..... If we're all doing crap, so be it.... its a forum for people expressing themselves to be heard which is a good thing in my book... /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aronne Merrelli" To: Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 6:31 PM Subject: (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. > The only thing mp3.com is useful for now is a place to > store your music - I don't think anyone expects to > get any promotion just by uploading stuff there. Its > just too big and filled with crap, frankly. > > > Regards, > Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:59:11 -0400 From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re: OT (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. AM> The only thing mp3.com is useful for now is a place to AM> store your music - I don't think anyone expects to AM> get any promotion just by uploading stuff there. Its AM> just too big and filled with crap, frankly. Having a few songs on mp3.com and similar sites, I feel compelled to reply. I agree that you can't get any promotion just by uploading stuff on MP3.com. However, you do get a chance to make yourself heard to people who might not have otherwise found out about you. In that sense, MP3.com is quite useful. Filled with crap? Yeah, you might think so, especially if you listen to the MP3.com charts--all tracks sound too similar. But very few people that visit MP3.com actually care to look beyond the often-inflated charts and find small gems that MP3.com (and similar sites, e.g. besonic.com) has here and there. So what if a person isn't in a chart? You may very well like his/her songs. Instead, what people do is they pick a genre, go to the charts, listen to a few tracks off the "top 100" and then conclude that it's all same-sounding crap. I'm thankful for sites like MP3.com--it lets people make themselves heard to an international audience without having to sign up with a label, whether major or independent. Still think MP.com is all crap? Try this: every day listen to one song from one MP3.com artist you haven't heard yet. Don't look at the charts, just find a random artist every time. I bet you'll be surprised with a good track every so often. As far as promotion on MP3.com... Really, would any serious group or band promote themselves solely through that site? I think that if somebody is trying to get serious, they would spend their resources on better things--such as releasing a full-quality CD (not like DAM CDs) on CDNOW/etc, get signed up with a label (again, whether big or small). But I don't think that they would pick MP3.com as their number one promotion tool. - - Uksi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:49:23 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. Aronne Merrelli wrote: > > I still think record labels (talking about the small > independant ones now) are important, as a 'quality-filter'. > I think pretty much everyone would be more inclined to > buy a random release on a label with a good reputation > than buy some random mp3.com artist's CD. I've thought along those same lines, and it really works well in the movie industry (for the most part), but when you have bands like Lit and The Offspring on one end, and bands like Orzic Tentacles and Curve on the other end, it makes you wonder: "Why the fuck is Lit popular and why the fuck isn't Orzic Tentacles popular?" > The only thing mp3.com is useful for now is a place to > store your music - I don't think anyone expects to > get any promotion just by uploading stuff there. Its > just too big and filled with crap, frankly. Well, the top download section might provide some level of "quality filtering". - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:01:37 +0000 From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) re: Courtney's rant. JL Jones wrote: > > Well, thank you very much for your kind words > to those of us who have posted stuff on mp3.com > at least its a place to hear stuff that you wouldnt > get a chance to hear either through the mass > media outlets etc..... > > If we're all doing crap, so be it.... > its a forum for people expressing themselves to be heard > which is a good thing in my book... In defense of Aronne, I don't think he meant that 100% of MP3.com was crap. It's just that it's finding a needle in a haystack, which is probably true. I go by a rule that works rather well: 99% of everything is crap. A few years ago, I was really into computer MOD/S3M/XM/IT music. At work, I had a good connection, and I downloaded the entire year's worth of the Hornet Archive. Since anybody and his brother could upload any damn song he wanted, a great majority of the songs sucked ass. Yes, there were good songs among them, and yes, they kicked ass, but you really have to search for them. So, it's not that your music sucks, but how to seperate your music (if it is indeed good) from the mountain of shit in the MP3.com collection. (And if I had the DSL come in, I could actually download stuff from MP3.com, but this Earthlink connection sucks my late granddaddy's nutz!) - -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:09:12 -0400 From: Robert Uglesich Subject: (orbital) recording streaming media i deleted the original post but here's a link to the software that i use to record and archive streaming broadcasts. there's even a built in scheduler which you can program to record events while you're away from your computer. the unregistered version is limited to 40 second samples but registration is only $11.95 http://www.highcriteria.com/trinfo.htm - - rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:23:37 -0700 From: "morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Real Audio Hey, Can anyone tell me of a program that will convert wav files into real audio? I have a dj set that I want to put up on my home page. Also, Can anyone give me a brief description of how I would go about setting it up on my home page. any help would be greatly appreciated. kevin (morpheus) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #344 *****************************