From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Test Date: 29 Dec 1997 13:09:15 -0800 Please ignore this message. Xmission has been having severe problems with a hacker over the past week, and so I'm just checking to make sure the list is up and running. ObGH/PC: Am I the only one who spent most of last week muttering either "Shut up, Stefan," or "Shut up, Jax"? Bleah. Although, I did LOVE the face off between Jason and Stefan. I agree with Bobbie, I would LOVE to see Stefan take on Jason. I don't necessarily think Jason could win, but I think he would CERTAINLY give Stefan more of a run for his money than he'd expect -- when Stefan looks at Jason all he sees is a punk in a black leather motorcycle jacket. He'd be in for a rude awakening. I also loved the scenes with Lucy and Nikolas, as Nikolas was having his stroke. I think my favorite of all of GH last week, though, was Alan telling Jax that he was no better than Sonny. FINALLY! As for PC... am I the only one who sees Eve and Chris and is reminded of early Scott and Lucy? I loved Scott and Lucy (in the pre-Doc days), and so I'm enjoying the hell out of the two of them. I'm really glad they are involving Eve in so many storylines, because she is so much fun to watch in so many circumstances. I do adore her with Scott, but with Chris she really, really reminds me of an old Lucy. Maybe that's why Lucy has such an aversion to her. ;-) Taiyin GH/PC and Kevin & Lucy Mailing Lists and Fanfiction Archive: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/lists/index.html The Ultimate General Hospital/Port Charles Links Page: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9479/links.html General Home Page Index: http://users.ap.net/~taiyin/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Lu" Subject: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 29 Dec 1997 17:49:08 -0500 I've had to miss quite a bit of Port Charles over the holidays and have totally missed out on the dreams that Scotty has been having the past couple of episodes. If someone doesn't mind, could they please fill me in on what has been going on in them? Thanks! Mary Lu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 29 Dec 1997 14:58:02 -0800 Mary Lu asked: >I've had to miss quite a bit of Port Charles over the holidays and have >totally missed out on the dreams that Scotty has been having the past >couple of episodes. If someone doesn't mind, could they please fill me in >on what has been going on in them? The only one so far was on Friday. Scott dreamed that he woke up on the couch in the firehouse (which is where he was sleeping) and found Dom standing in the foray. He hugged her, told her he loved and how much he missed her and then she started crying and said that he was going to lose her (meaning Serena). She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena. So far, that's been it. Alora "You, professor, have a dirty mind." --"You don't know the half of it, Lucy." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Lu" Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 29 Dec 1997 21:45:51 -0500 ---------- > From: Taiyin > Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 5:58 PM > > ...then she started crying and said that he was going to lose > her (meaning Serena). > > She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena. > > So far, that's been it. > That's it??? I was sort of hoping that Dom would tell Scotty that she was behind him all the way... Was this more like a "nightmare" for Scotty as opposed to the way Dom shows up for Serena "in real life"? I hope you understand that question! What I'm trying to get at is if this is what Scotty is imagining Dom thinking about all of this compared to the reassurance that Dom is giving to Serena.... Mary Lu I hate it when I have to miss episodes like this.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 30 Dec 1997 18:55:11 -0800 >That's it??? I was sort of hoping that Dom would tell Scotty that she was >behind him all the way... Not so far. >Was this more like a "nightmare" for Scotty as >opposed to the way Dom shows up for Serena "in real life"? I hope you >understand that question! Yeah, I get what you're saying, but no, that's not what happened. It still could, though, so don't lose hope. :-) >What I'm trying to get at is if this is what >Scotty is imagining Dom thinking about all of this compared to the >reassurance that Dom is giving to Serena.... Well, I mean, since the audience knows that Dom is really there, we would definitely be led to believe that Dom was in charge of that dream. As it is, I'm sure Scott is just feeling a little freaked and slightly paranoid. He's not like Lucy -- he's not going to find a reassurance and comfort in the thought of Dom *really* being there, because (at least so far) he doesn't actually really *believe* she is there. He just knows that he had a dream that not only predicted what he fears most, but that he's also going to be disappointing the love of his life. >I hate it when I have to miss episodes like this.... Beleive me, I know the feeling. Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klsatlin Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 29 Dec 1997 23:00:19 EST In a message dated 97-12-29 18:07:03 EST, you write: << The only one so far was on Friday. Scott dreamed that he woke up on the couch in the firehouse (which is where he was sleeping) and found Dom standing in the foray. He hugged her, told her he loved and how much he missed her and then she started crying and said that he was going to lose her (meaning Serena). She then (almost) begged Scott not to lose Serena. >> Are we sure it was Serena that she was referring to? I got the impression that maybe Dom sees Eve as Scotty's great love (after herself, of course), and that he might lose her if he doesn't try harder. It seemed to fit, especially right after that scene with Eve and Chris where Eve said something about Scott, and then ended up kissing Chris. Then again, maybe it's just me. I am CEO of FPCO Scott and Eve :). Karen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris Date: 30 Dec 1997 20:44:48 -0800 I didn't want to like Eve and Chris this much. The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now... I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve. OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone (I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena. Of course, my vote could change once Eve and Scott have that scene they keep showing during the promo that airs during GH, too. I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other, never torn like this. Fabulous. Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC: Scotty's dreams? Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:04:07 -0800 At 11:00 PM 12/29/97 EST, Klsatlin wrote: >Are we sure it was Serena that she was referring to? No, you're right. We aren't. I thought it implied Serena until I saw today's ep (which I watched right after I posted that). Now I think it could be Serena, Eve or Lucy. Dom DEFINITELY said "she" though. It wasn't the androgynous "someone" that Scott kept mentioning today. >that he might lose her if he doesn't try harder. It seemed to fit, especially >right after that scene with Eve and Chris where Eve said something about >Scott, and then ended up kissing Chris. Entirely possible. >Then again, maybe it's just me. I am CEO of FPCO Scott and Eve :). I was heavily ensconced in the Scott and Eve camp until a couple of weeks ago... now I'm hedging. In no particular direction, though. :-) Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris Date: 30 Dec 1997 08:56:46 -0500 (EST) I didn't know what to cut from your post because almost everything you said I agree with completely. Scott and Eve had chemistry from the get-go but Chris and Eve chemistry slowly built and I change my mind of who I want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now. She and Frank make-out like a bunch of love-sick teens (Eve said something to that effect Friday). What you said about Eve and the Scanlon brothers she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve pairing. I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are one-dimensional. Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show often. I miss Mac and Kevin. On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Taiyin wrote: > The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an > attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas > about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now... > > I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve. > > OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely > watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone > (I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored > with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and > Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly > sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either > of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena. > > I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love > triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other, > never torn like this. > > Fabulous. > > Taiyin > "What did I do before I had you?" > --"You were lost and confused." > -- Lucy and Kevin > > - > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ayn E Van syke (BSN)" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris Date: 30 Dec 1997 08:56:46 -0500 (EST) I didn't know what to cut from your post because almost everything you said I agree with completely. Scott and Eve had chemistry from the get-go but Chris and Eve chemistry slowly built and I change my mind of who I want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now. She and Frank make-out like a bunch of love-sick teens (Eve said something to that effect Friday). What you said about Eve and the Scanlon brothers she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve pairing. I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are one-dimensional. Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show often. I miss Mac and Kevin. On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Taiyin wrote: > The pragmatist in me kept saying, "Scott and Eve! Scott and Eve!" -- in an > attempt, of course, to prevent anyone from getting any hairbrained ideas > about sepereating Kevin & Lucy, in favor of Scott and Lucy... but now... > > I am REALLY loving Chris and Eve. > > OTOH, I think it's at least partially that Eve is just so completely > watchable. I don't think I've ever been bored watching her with anyone > (I've been bored watching Julie moralize at Eve, but not actually bored > with Eve). I love her interaction with Kevin, Lucy and Scott; she and > Chris are really great (and are reminding me every day of a slightly > sweeter early Scott and Lucy); she cracks me up whenever she's with either > of the Scanlon brothers; and she's adorable with Serena. > > I don't know. I don't recall ever actually being this undecided in a love > triangle situation. I've always been in favor of one pairing or the other, > never torn like this. > > Fabulous. > > Taiyin > "What did I do before I had you?" > --"You were lost and confused." > -- Lucy and Kevin > > - > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Scott/Eve/Chris Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:25:10 -0800 Ayn wrote: >want her with depending on who she is with in the scene. I used to like >Julie but her character never fully developed and bores me to tears now. I agree. I really liked her in the beginning when she was insisting on her independence and wouldn't let her father influence her career at all. Although, I must admit that, in that regard, she has improved a bit in the past week or two. Let's just see if it sticks. >she has chemistry with them as well. I could even see a Frank and Eve >pairing. I would LOVE to see that combo -- though I don't think I need to be anymore torn when it comes to Eve's lovelife. >I love her scences with Ben, Serena, Rex, etc. If PC would >develop everyones character as much as they have developed hers the show >would be much more watchable. Other than Eve many of the new characters >are isolated in their own groups of people and most of them are >one-dimensional. Well, in the case of Rex, I would certainly agree. Julie, too, for the most part. And Jake -- though I think Danielle's death has gone a long way toward improving him. I wouldn't agree, though, when it comes to Matt, Chris, Karen or either one of the Scanlon brothers, really. And the storyline they are starting right now with Ellen should go a LONG way towards developing her character more. But, actually, if you look at it, about half the cast of PC started out on GH. Kevin, Lucy and Scott (and Karen) are just the ones who are front and center on PC the most. I think the primary objection I have to the GH/PC transfer of characters is the handling of Mike -- they TOTALLY neglect him. >Lucy and Doc just don't belong with these people in my >opinion and I wish they would go back to GH with Scotty visiting the show >often. I miss Mac and Kevin. Well, I disagree with that -- if for no other reason than because (a) I think that the way Lynn Latham writes Kevin and Lucy is just magnificent and I remember all too well how badly Guza does the two of them. And (b) because when Kevin and Lucy were on GH they spent YEARS (literally) straddling the back-burner. I'd rather have them on almost every day, with great dialogue and snappy raprte, but seperated from much of their old context, than back on GH, showing up once or twice a week as window dressing for the ongoing Spencer/Cassasinde, soon-to-include Quartermaine/Morgan war. I kind of miss Mac and Kevin. The only GH relationship with them that I REALLY miss, though, is Luke and Lucy. And I do whine about that every so often on the K&L list. Taiyin "You, professor, have a dirty mind." --"You don't know the half of it, Lucy." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Test Date: 30 Dec 1997 11:00:19 -0800 If any stray test messages come through from either myself or Julie, please ignore them. We are having a problem with her s*bscription and are trying to get it fixed. In general, though, please don't send test messages to the lists. Thanks, Taiyin "You, professor, have a dirty mind." --"You don't know the half of it, Lucy." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Tony and Bobbie Date: 30 Dec 1997 18:52:39 -0500 M O N D A Y G E N E R A L H O P I T A L Hi everybody. I am back from my new York vacation, and I have a lot to say about Tony. God I hate Tony!!! The presumptuousness of that man. He accepts the fact that Carly has had an affair. He logically knows that the time he thinks Carly and Jason slept together could have resulted in her pregnancy. However he calls the baby his son. That man is in denial about a few things. Also, today he had no concern for Carly's welfare. This is a woman that he was planning to marry an is the mother of what may be his child. He actually said that he didn't care about Carly, and Jason could do whatever he wanted with her. I know that isn't verbatim, but oh well that was the main gist of it. I don't know if Bobbie told him of the gravity of Carly's situation on the phone.However he should know that a woman that delivers a month early might possibly have some kind of medical problems. There wasn't even a "What's her condition like". I don't want him to fall back in love with her. That is most definitely not what I am saying, but even I would wonder about the condition of my worst enemy if he or she was injured. I have to say Bravo to Bobbie. I loved her pleading with Jason over Carly's surgery. I can't believe that Carly is basically leading the same life that Bobbie did: mothering a child and not being sure who the father is, having something wrong with your uterus that could ultimately lead to the loss of it. I also loved that Jason said that he would tell Carly that it was Bobbie that convinced him about what to do. I have a question. Does Jason have power of attorney over both Carly and the baby or just over Carly? Carly said that the lawyer never asked if Jason was the real father. Can someone have power of attorney over a child whose paternity has not yet been decided? I know that tomorrow Jason says"Nothing will be done to that boy unless I say so". I am so glad that Guza is back. Have I said that already? I am so glad that General Hospital is getting good again. I don't know if you all noticed, but it was getting boring there for awhile. Jamila - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Tony and Bobbie Date: 30 Dec 1997 16:04:41 -0800 At 06:52 PM 12/30/97 -0500, Donald K Gooden wrote: >I am so glad that Guza is back. Have I said that >already? I am so glad that General Hospital is getting good again. I don't >know if you all noticed, but it was getting boring there for awhile. Actually, I'd say that GH spent MONTHS being insufferable to the point of unwatchable much of the time. And I agree, I'm glad things are improving. Very, very glad. Taiyin "Been held-up at gun point by your mother lately?" -- AJ to Ned - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: SPOILERS part one Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:11:54 -0500 Sorry these are late. I know that it ia already the middle of the week. Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > > Scoop Celebration ---- Alexis tells Stefan the truth, but he still won't have anything to do with her. Nikolas gives Lucky a break. Jason, Brenda and Jax have a heated confrontation. Mac calls Felicia, but he is quickly cut off. Carly's baby faces a life-and-death struggle. Stefan asks Katherine to take a big step. Nikolas and Sarah can't connect. Elizabeth frets when Lucky is a no-show. Brenda fears for her health, but Jax finds a way to lift her spirits. Bobbie has a profound experience without even realizing it. Felicia fights with "Mac". Tony and Jason argue over Carly's baby. A.J. makes a decision to protect his family. Carly has an emotional experience. Edward makes Emily a shocking offer. ---- On Monday, Alexis finishes telling Stefan the secret that she's his sister but he doesn't believe her. Stefan refuses to look at her proof thinking she could have easily forged the documents. Alexis pleads for him to help her and that she's afraid Helena will kill her. Stefan tells her to go to her friend, Luke, for protection, if she needs it. --- Carly lies unconscious at Jason's Penthouse, and gives birth today. On Tuesday, Tess has special plans for Mac, involving a razor. Mac manages to dial Felicia but will he be able to warn her before Tess returns? --- Carly's baby has a heart problem and Carly slips into a coma, needing emergency surgery. On Wednesday, Jax is determined for Brenda to enjoy New Year's Eve. J&B spend the holiday together without champagne, tuxedos or evening dresses. For the first time in weeks, Brenda laughs and appears almost happy. --- Tony discovers the baby's blood type and learns the baby is NOT his. Nik returns home to find Sarah and it's not a happy reunion. --- The Q's converge on the neo-natal unit and argue about the future of Carly's baby. If the Thursday and Friday updates are available, they will be posted Thursday morning. Alert Monday Jason is horrified at what he finds when he returns home. Carly's son is born, Bobbie is unaware that she is holding her grandchild Tuesday Bobbie makes a plea for Carly, as Carly lies close to death. Wednesday Stefan's request shocks Katherine. Thursday GH will be pre-empted. Friday Brenda has a violent reaction when she hears some distressing news. Tony will get surprising results. Carly breaks down when she sees her son for the first time. ---- Coming Soon Carly makes a shocking decision. Jason has an unexpected visitor. Brenda's paranoia escalates. Tony vows revenge on Jason. Brenda confides in Robin. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: spolers part two Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:15:40 -0500 Most of these has already been played this week, but it offers Jackie Zeman's insight to the Carly thing. Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > > > As The New Year Begins Helena and Stefan are both focused on Nikolas' well-being, but these have different methods of handling such matters of importance. Helena wants a secret alliance with Katherine, who feels that silence is not golden and wants to tell all to Stefan. She might *want to,* but will she is the question and Helena warns Katherine: "piss me off and pay the consequences." Jason rebuffs Brenda and tells her that avenging Sonny won't bring him back into her life: "face facts, he's gone ... period, end of discussion." Completely thrown by what Jason says, Brenda begins to believe that she's completely losing it. When Jax returns to the cottage he finds Jason and Brenda alone, and both men perceive Brenda's problems different. One believe things are rooted in her heart whereas the other feels they come from her head. Brenda receives a call from the one person who fully understands what it means to lose someone you love: Robin, and her spirits are momentarily lifted, but not for long. Although he remains by her side "through thick and thin," Jax watches Brenda's emotional state slowly unravel. Like pulling the stitches out of a knit sweater, Brenda's behavior goes from good to bad and finally to worse. Convinced that Sonny is out to destroy her life one way or the other, Brenda's paranoia culminates in an action which could make her a danger to herself or to others, Jax sees what the problems are and tells Brenda that she will have to face her problems head on if she is ever to get well. When Jason returns to the penthouse he finds Carly lying in her pool of blood and calls the paramedics to rush her to GH. Upon arrival, Carly is prepared for surgery and she begs Bobbie not to let anyone take her baby. A short time later, Bobbie holds the newborn totally unaware that this is her grandson, and at the same time Carly goes into cardiac arrest. Looking back on her own life, Bobbie pleads with Jason to not allow a hysterectomy to be performed. More problems arise when the newborn needs surgery, and Jason and Tony argue over the proper medical treatment --- but it is Jason who makes the final decision. Following surgery, Tony discovers that he is not the child's biological father. Bobbie shares the news of the baby's paternity with the Q's, and Edward makes plans of his own for the new Quartermaine heir ... plans which irk Emily. When Carly awakens she believes that her child is dead, but is reassured by both Bobbie and Jason that her child did not die. ---- Bobbie Helps Carly Deliver Her Baby on GH Carly's stressful pregnancy ends with the emergency delivery of her son this week on GH. Immediately, both mother and child face medical crises, and Bobbie, who has no idea she is the baby's grandmother - winds up with the newborn baby in her arms. Jason rushes Carly to the hospital after having found her at home passed out in a pool of blood. Bobbie, who is on duty, scrubs for surgery, and a terrified Carly begs her not to let anyone take her baby. Despite their bitter history, Bobbie tries to do the right thing not only for the child but for Carly, convincing Jason not to allow doctors to give her a hysterectomy. "Bobbie bonds with the baby immediately in an uncanny, very strange way," Jacklyn Zeman says. "She says, 'Oh, I bond will all the babies I deliver' even though she doesn't actually deliver this one -- but there is a genetic pull which can't be explained. I think it's also the first time Bobbie sees the vulnerability in Carly, and as much as they have been at war with one another, and there's been so much dysfunction in the relationship, Bobbie really understands when Carly says "Don't let them hurt my baby. Don't let them take my baby." That really opens up Bobbie's heart to her, and she sees her on a different level." Things take a turn for the worse after the delivery when Carly goes into cardiac arrest and the baby develops a problem. Jason finds himself in the middle of both situations, and does battle with Tony over the proper course of treatment for the child. Surgery proves successful, but also provides the answer Tony has dreaded: that he cannot possibly be the father. Bobbie feels very sad for Tony, but her sympathies and allegiance are with the mother, having been there herself (as an unwed mother whose child - Carly - was taken away from her at birth). Bobbie is totally in sync with Carly being the mother, and maybe Tony was excited about the baby and did spend all those months thinking it was his, but in reality it's not. The fact that he spend nine months preparing for the baby and wanting it doesn't mean he gets to keep it, because it's not his. Although Zeman thinks Tony feels betrayed by Bobbie, she doesn't think she is taking sides. "It's just so simple to Bobbie: What's right is right, and that is that you've got to give the real parents a chance. Carly doesn't deserve to have her baby taken from her and Tony is really set to do this custody battle. That's something you can't win unless you fight dirty and tell lies, because Carly really hasn't done anything wrong. She lied to him, but there's no law against that. Tony made his bed and now he has to lie in it. It's not Carly's fault that Tony threw away his wholel ife, his wife and family, and is now looking around and saying, "Oh gee, I gave up everything." ---- SOW Editors Resolutions For Soaps If They Were Writer's/Producers Bring back Laura to complicate the Stefan/Katherine love story. Bring back Lois. Put Jax and Brenda together soon, or give him a new love interest. With the battle lines once again drawn between the Cassadines and the Spencers, give us a Robin/Nikolas romance, a Luke/Alexis affair, and the Stefan is Nikolas' father reveal. Pursue a Jason/Carly/AJ triangle. Don't stop Alan's drug story until he hits rock bottom. And Bob Guza: Vacation anywhere you want but the "Beach." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: spoilers Port Charles Date: 30 Dec 1997 22:24:39 -0500 S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > Well Well! You might not want to read these. They have a particularly disturbing spoiler about L and K. It is about Rex and Lucy's kiss, but there is something else. Jamila Scoop Celebration ---- Dominique takes Scott on an incredible journey. Kevin and Lucy argue over her methods for entrapping Rex, but soon find an enjoyable way to make up. Frank and Julie's romantic evening is interrupted by a minor crisis. Joe and Karen's latest mishap leaves them with only the bare essentials. Scott throws a New Year's Eve party that gets most of PC in a romantic move. Lucy reverts to her old ways to win Rex over, and gets more than she bargained for. Chris makes Eve an offer that she can't refuse. Matt makes his move. Ellen's younger brother, Winston, arrives in Port Charles with two issues: Ellen's estrangement from her mother, and the story behind Ellen's mysterious husband who died. Frank and Julie take a major step. Lark moves into the Scanlon home, and gives both brothers plus Julie a run for their money. Chris tries to delve into Matt's past. Dominique says goodbye. Rex steals something from Lucy. Both Karen & Joe as well as Frank & Julie spent the night together, but only one couple make love. ---- Dominique is the Ghost of Christmas Past as she takes Scott on a special journey, to help him understand what changes he has to make in order to offer Serena the best future. Along the way Scott learns that he must open his head and heart to love again. Scott , taking his cue from Dominique, hosts a New Year's Eve party and shares a passionate kiss with Eve. If he had his way, Scott would've stayed in Canada living alone with his daughter. He is involved with friends and family now because of the bind he is in. What he did not realize is that children learn from example. And the example that he has shown Serena is that he is always looking back, constantly regretting the past. Scott probably would've ignored Dominique's plea if he thought only his own future was in danger. But seeing the effect of his attitude on the people around him, especially Serena, spurs him into action. Opening his house up to friends and family, he's going to begin opening himself up emotionally to other people. In truth, he is terribly attracted to Eve. As the clock strikes 12, it doesn't look like Scott & Eve are on the brink of a romantic relationship: She is kissing Chris. Chris grabs her and Scott looks over and feels a pang of jealousy. He looks back to hug someone else, then he and Eve wind up next to each other, and it is a spontaneous kiss, but they are both aware of what's happening. Ellen and Matt are also at the party. Earlier in the evening, Matt kisses Grace, but at midnight he happens to be talking to Ellen, who previously had rejected his overtures. Grace is talking to someone else. He's not seeking Ellen out; it's just a situation. Frank and Julie also find themselves well situated to take their relationship to the next stage. With all that Julie has been through in the past six months, she is not really ready for a serious relationship. She is afraid that Frank is looking for something more serious. In truth, Frank is no more ready for commitment than Julie is, which they discover when they finally broach the subject. Once they resolve that issue, they are ready to take the next step, and they make love for the first time. Joe & Karen, alone at his friend's cabin, are forced to ring in the New Year in front of a roaring fire, naked, after their clothes get soaked. So now you take one young couple with eyes for each other . Throw in some sexual tension ... no electricity ... a leak in the closet which drenches their clothing ... add a cozy blanket and a roaring fire ... and then top it off with no condoms, and what do you get? There's just so much patience that anyone has, and Kevin is about to run out as "Juicy Lucy" plans to put the moves on Rex, whom she believes is totally unsuspecting - but won't she be surprised! Anger and fear turn to passion, and Kevin & Lucy make passionate love. Later on, Kevin's worries surface again when he knows that Lucy will be toasting the new year with Rex. ... and Rex certainly wants to start the new year off "with a bang" when he confiscates Lucy's fertility pills before preparing to trip the light fantastic. ---- Alert Monday Lucy comes on to Rex. Tuesday Dominique takes Scott on a journey that will change his life. Frank and Julie receive an unexpected house guest. Wednesday Romance runs rampant all over town. Matt surprises Ellen on New Year's Eve. Thursday PC will be pre-empted. Friday Eve catches Julie in a compromising situation. Kevin watches as Lucy and Rex kiss. Dominique says goodbye to Scott and Serena. ---- Coming Soon Ellen's past comes into focus for Matt. Rex puts Lucy's life in danger. The Scanlon brothers clash over their father. Lucy's testimony hurts Scott's case. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Lu" Subject: GH/PC: GH: Thoughts on Tony/AJ/Jason Date: 31 Dec 1997 22:42:59 -0500 spoiler space ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; I hope that's enough..... Ok, I'm probably going to write something that most people won't agree with (since I seem to detect A LOT of pro Carly/AJ talk... not altogether bad, but people are being almost venomous against AJ and Tony. I am going to write in defense of their actions... Tony. So, I feel sort of sorry for the guy. When you have been acting like a total jerk for so long and are starting to come around to what a pathetic life you have been living for the past two years (and even longer) it is REALLY going to hurt. I will never, ever forget the scenes he had when BJ died. I think those defined his character since then. He is ruthless when he tosses women out (and I can't forget that, either), but this guy has had reasons for acting like he has. Then, for seven months he has been looking forward to a new baby. Forget how he treated Carly (and I do believe it was terrible), but if I had to go through the hopes and joys surrounding the promise of a new baby that I thought was my own flesh and blood, it would take me a lot longer than a month to get over it. This guy looks like he is heading for one HUGE mid-life crisis to hit and he has NO ONE that in any way, shape or form, is going to give him any sympathy for. If the writers play it right, Brad Maule may have another emmy nomination performance coming up. The look on his face today when he knew that the baby was NOT his... this guy is going to be heading for a bigger dose of reality than he may ever have had to deal with, barring BJ's death. This may very well get him past that and finally on with the rest of his life... and maybe I could enjoy his scenes again. I would be more interested in this particular breakdown than the one Brenda is going through because I can relate to this one a bit more. I do agree with comments about his lack of perspective in the surgery needed for the baby, though. I thought his reaction was irrational, but he might have a hard time being rational about anything right now. The baby's needs should be first, however. How ironic, though, that the baby had a heart defect since BJ's heart is the only thing of her that remains alive at this time. AJ... Unless they are going to pull a fast one on us, AJ is definitely the father of that baby. I think the biological father has a right to know the baby if he has fought for that right all along. AJ is a perfect example of someone who possibly had his whole life screwed up because his own father never bonded with him in a way father's should bond. Why does everyone want AJ out of the picture as having any rights to the baby? The deed is done, the biology is there. We now have daddy AJ. I think he would make a great father. His comments about his needing to be pealed off the ceiling of the waiting room during the baby's surgery were very appropriate and natural. I only wish he would stand up to Jason and the rest of the Q's and tell them WHY he believes so strongly that he is the real father. The lack of a strong enough backbone is the biggest flaw I see in the AJ character at this time. Jason... I love his scenes with Carly. No doubt about it, the scenes are terrific. It would be more interesting to me, in a way, if he were the father, but he isn't and knows it. But that is why those scenes work so well. If I had any doubt that he was the father and a mobster at the same time, I would be out of there in a minute. No baby is safe around that group. As long as the mob keeps missing with their bullets and others get killed, how could Carly assume that she and the baby are safe? My maternal instincts would kick in and I would be out of there! (An aside... Jason and Carly remind me of Scotty/Lucy, the early years, in how they relate to each other. I have my fingers crossed, but can't reconcile the mob business.) None of this is meant to criticize the writers in this storyline. I like the present writing as it leaves so much material to work with. I LOVE the twists that the story has taken! I love how many people are affected by all this and I really, really loved Luke's reaction in the hospital when he was looking in on Carly. He cares and we know it. I wanted him to blurt out the whole relationship to the Q clan (aren't they going to be surprised!) but settled for his wishes for a happy new year to the whole blood-sucking Quartermaine family! Dealing with Jason as his nephew's supposed father also tightens that relationship for the time being, only Jason knows that it is all fiction. This is easily the most interesting storyline to come out of GH in a long while for me. Theoretically, it should be hard for the writers to blow it. I wouldn't put it past them, however. Mary Lu -