From: Betsy Vera Subject: GH/PC: GH newspaper article in Michigan Daily Date: 01 Apr 1998 14:14:37 -0500 (EST) For the completists, here's an article from today's Michigan Daily. The article itself, with a picture of Tony Geary, is at http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1998/apr/04-01-98/arts/arts3.html ---------- 'GH' celebrates 35 years of soap saga By Jie Lin For the Daily A jilted bride ends up in the nuthouse, a mob war erupts over a kidnapped baby, and a rape dredges up dark family secrets. Welcome to the wonderful world of "General Hospital." Forget about "ER"; this hospital is far more interesting. Where else could you see a daughter seek revenge on the mother who gave her up, by stealing her husband? For more than three decades, "General Hospital" has been bringing viewers mayhem five times per week, capturing the hearts of soap opera fans everywhere. The function of a soap opera is escapism - to take us out of our mundane lives and into a fantasy world filled with gorgeous people and their equally glamorous lifestyles. "General Hospital" fits that bill to a tee. The show features some of the hottest actors of daytime. Take one look at the opening credits to know what I am talking about. But there is much more to "GH" than handsome doctors and beautiful nurses. The soap opera primarily revolves around the wealthy Quartermaine family, whose closets are filled with more skeletons than the Kennedys'. Let's not forgot about the other characters as well. We have a model (Vanessa Marcil), a tycoon (Ingo Rademacher) and a mobster (Maurice Benard), just to name a few. Let your imagination run wild because anything is possible here in the city of Port Charles. Tomorrow, "General Hospital" will celebrate its 35th anniversary with an hourlong special recalling favorite moments of the show and interviews with stars from the past and present. The show will feature favorite couples from Luke and Laura (Anthony Geary and Genie Francis) to Sonny and Brenda (Maurice Benard and Vanessa Marcil). Who could forget Luke and Laura's wedding? It is possibly the most famous wedding of all of daytime, attended by longtime fan Elizabeth Taylor. Sonny and Brenda, a mobster and a model, were one of the favorite and hottest couples from his past year. Theirs is a match made in heaven. Along with unforgettable clips, there will be interviews with former and current stars. Celebrities from the past such as Jack Wagner of "Melrose Place" (Frisco Jones on "GH"), who met his wife Kristina (Felicia Jones) on the show, and John Stamos (Blackie Parrish) of "Full House" fame, will share their memories of the show. Current stars featured include Kimberly McCullough (Robin Scorpio) and Ingo Rademacher (Jasper "Jax" Jacks). Also in the hour special, we will get a sneak peek into a group photo session with the stars of the show. For the clincher, Brad Maule (Tony Jones) will perform a song written by the star himself about the characters in Port Charles. "GH" fans will get a special treat as host and show veteran Anthony Geary (Luke Spencer) takes devoted viewers down memory lane. Keep that box of tissues close by. ---------- *--------------------------------------------------------------------* | Betsy Vera | "The rerun blahs are upon us... | | bentley@umich.edu | quick, someone throw Giles in the pool!" | | ECB (734)764-0429 | | | bentley.simplenet.com | (from #gasp) | * -------------------------------------------------------------------* - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 01 Apr 1998 15:04:54 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BD5D7F.8753FCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you all dig the new pics in the opening of General Hospital. There = is a new one for Audrey without steve. There is a new one for AJ, one = for Taggert, a new one for Lucky (I think) and a new one for Robin (I = think) Am I missing any? Jamila ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BD5D7F.8753FCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BD5D7F.8753FCA0-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 02 Apr 1998 08:59:09 -0500 Jamila wrote: >There is a new one for Audrey without steve. I missed all my soaps yesterday because I forgot to tape. I'm disappointed that they didn't leave the picture of Audrey and Steve in. It was a nice one. Are Kevin and Lucy still in the GH credits? --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH newspaper article in Michigan Daily Date: 02 Apr 1998 09:02:38 -0500 >Let's not forgot about the other characters as well. We have a model >(Vanessa Marcil), a tycoon (Ingo Rademacher) and a mobster (Maurice >Benard), just to name a few. How about the mobster's father? Or the cop turned personal assistant? Or the kidnapping brain surgeon? Or anybody who's *not* Brenda, Jax and Sonny? Geez. I'm obviously BJ&S'd out . >Theirs is a match made in heaven. When did she write this article, I wonder? Apart from the reference to Brenda going nuts in the lead, she keeps referring to Sonny as if he's still around. Thanks, Betsy! --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re: New Pics Date: 02 Apr 1998 06:30:49 PST cagey wrote: >I missed all my soaps yesterday because I forgot to tape. I'm >disappointed that they didn't leave the picture of Audrey and Steve >in. It was a nice one. i agree--i kind of thought they would leave steve in forever. however, they did keep the action clip, of him tending to a patient being wheeled into the er. >Are Kevin and Lucy still in the GH credits? yup--sure are. i checked for that one. i kind of figured if they were updating the credits, they'd be gone. i wonder why they aren't? (not that i'm COMPLAINING...i just find it kind of odd. y'think maybe lynn and jon got in in their contracts when they left that they remain in the credits, to facilitate a switch back if pc hadn't worked out? :) julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: RE New Pics Date: 02 Apr 1998 09:48:13 -0500 cagey wrote I'm >disappointed that they didn't leave the picture of Audrey and Steve >in. It was a nice one. I also agree, but I guess this way Audrey can move on. Why don't they replace Marybeth Evans' (katherine's) picture? That is the WORST picture of her! Also, not fond of the one of Vanessa (Brenda). I think that Lucy & Kevin's are still on the intro because they are probably still contracted to GH as well as PC. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: J&B Spoilers.....don't read if you don't wanna know!:) Date: 02 Apr 1998 11:52:20 EST5EDT This is from the newest SOD. S P O I L E R S P A C E Brenda and Jax are on the cover and there is a big story on the shoot out at the docks. Brenda gets shot, but it is only a flesh wound. Jax starts to realize that he and Brenda can't be together and he tries to tell her this, but his parents interrupt, so Brenda is off the hook for now. Jerry is indeed involved in the assasination plot and Mac discovers this, but Jax asks him to let him deal with Jerry. Guza states that Jax needs to see Brenda choose him over Sonny before he can accept a future with her. Guza also states that "We think there is going to be a real threat to J&B....and that's Jax's own brother" SOOOO...what do you guys think?? I wish that they would go ahead and put J&B together and THEN throw the obstacles at them. It would be more interesting than this romancing and playing hard to get crap!! gina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: Here is a good site.... Date: 02 Apr 1998 12:37:44 EST5EDT for those of you who are addicted to spoilers, here is an awesome site for some spoilers. Next week's spoilers have already been posted and they sound pretty good!! http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/3371/ghspoilers.html Enjoy!! gina BTW....I think Liz and Lucky ROCK!! They are doing really great with this storyline! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: New Pics Date: 02 Apr 1998 16:10:08 -0800 At 06:30 AM 4/2/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote: > >yup--sure are. i checked for that one. i kind of figured if they were >updating the credits, they'd be gone. i wonder why they aren't? (not >that i'm COMPLAINING...i just find it kind of odd. y'think maybe lynn >and jon got in in their contracts when they left that they remain in the >credits, to facilitate a switch back if pc hadn't worked out? :) From what I understand that is almost exactly what it was (and it especially makes sense if the rumors about Lynn are true). Besides, the credits have been updated once already since they left to PC -- in fact, it wasn't until they were already on PC that K&L were inserted into the GH credits together, instead of seperately like they've been for the previous three and a half years. Taiyin P.S> : m i n o r s p o i l e r s The spoilers I'm talking about came up on the K&L list, but I don't remember if they were mentioned here or not: it was the rumor that Lynn wants and is planning on going back to GH as of this spring because she doesn't want the work load associated with being a frontburner character like she is on PC, as opposed to a backburner one like she was on GH. I sincerely hope the rumor is wrong, but that's the one that SOD was pushing a couple weeks ago. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Subject: Re: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 03 Apr 1998 18:28:27 -0800 On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Cagey wrote: > Are Kevin and Lucy still in the GH credits? Yes, they are. But I miss Steve. Sigh. Jill jtkirby@mcs.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 03 Apr 1998 09:08:00 -0500 Jill wrote: >But I miss Steve. Sigh. In fact, after watching the John Beradino tribute at the beginning of the GH special last night, I'm even more irked by the fact that they took out the picture of Audrey and Steve together. Yes, I realize the opening credits are supposed to reflect the current cast, but he was an original cast member, for crying out loud. Grrrr. I must say, apart from the inclusion of Taggert and the far-improved pic of Billy Warlock, I'm not impressed. I liked the brooding pic of Nik better; after they made such a big deal about the "new" Jason, why didn't they take out the pic of him in the leather jacket?; why do they continue to show Katherine with that poodle haircut ? Moan, whine. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Betsy Vera Subject: Re: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 03 Apr 1998 09:17:55 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Cagey wrote: > In fact, after watching the John Beradino tribute at the beginning of the > GH special last night, I'm even more irked by the fact that they took out Argh! Forgot to watch the show last night. :-( I felt too lazy at 10 to get up and look for the TV guide, so I channel-surfed till I found something watchable. Unfortunately, ABC was showing commercials when I surfed through. So, how was it? *--------------------------------------------------------------------* | Betsy Vera | "The rerun blahs are upon us... | | bentley@umich.edu | quick, someone throw Giles in the pool!" | | bentley.simplenet.com | (from #gasp) | * -------------------------------------------------------------------* Natpack - CoS - SunS - #gasp - CoJ - ddeb2 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH: Anniversary Show Date: 03 Apr 1998 09:34:50 -0500 Argh! Forgot to watch the show last night. The show was good, although, I wish they would have shown the more, pivotal scenes w/the couples. I think they showed too much Luke & Laura, when they could've shown other people. They only showed Holly in a small scene for instance. I was DYING to see that scene where Luke at the mayor's mansion sees Laura for the 1st time after she escaped from the Cassadines! They saved that for the montage at the end. That was disappointing! Overall, it was pretty good. I think they needed 2 hours at least though! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: New Pics Date: 03 Apr 1998 09:40:23 -0500 why do they continue to show Katherine with that poodle haircut ? THANK YOU!!! I keep saying that everytime I see that! That's got to be the worst picture of Katherine I've ever seen!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Anniversary Show Date: 03 Apr 1998 07:29:46 -0800 (PST) I usually just lurk here, but last night was so wonderful I just had to post!!! :) The first half hour had me laughing out loud again and again...from 9:30-9:40 I sat here bawling like a baby, and then went back to laughing again. All of a sudden Luke was back and I realized it was almost over!! I was crushed -- I wanted AT LEAST another hour!!! I hope people stayed tuned to the credits to see Brad Maule sing -- that was so cute!! Seeing everyone together like that... Okay -- here's the ponderings...Where was Tristan Rogers??? John Ingle? Anna Lee? Can't remember Katherine's real name, but she wasn't there...though that wasn't as glaring to me as the others. I figured Ian Buchanan wouldn't be there since he's currently on another network, but where were the others?? I would have loved to see Tristan Rogers again...I love him! Ummm...what was with the pillow Kimberly McCullough kept in front of her? It strikes me that she has a bad self body image -- her posture is always horrendous, maybe she was unconciously hiding?? It always amazes me how different Stuart Damon looks now -- to me, he's MUCH more handsome now. He seems like one of the most wonderful people -- one of those that you just know is a nice person to meet. He's SO funny!! It looks like maybe there is some truth to the rumors that one of the reasons Genie Francis won't come back yet is she's unhappy with her weight -- they shot her only from the chest up thoughout, other than one very far away full shot. If that IS the reason, I'd like to somehow let her know that we don't care -- we just want her back!!! You know what else struck me during the Robin/Stone scenes -- whatever happened to him??? He's such an exceptional actor, I'm disappointed we haven't seen him in anything else! My only criticism of the show overall, other than it was too short, were those terrible rehearsed camera angles. I hate that!! Why not just shoot naturally instead of making them turn their heads at a certain time -- how unnatural!! Well, back into hiding I go!!! :) ---Danielle Graham wrote: > > Argh! Forgot to watch the show last night. > The show was good, although, I wish they would have shown the more, > pivotal scenes w/the couples. I think they showed too much Luke & Laura, > when they could've shown other people. They only showed Holly in a small > scene for instance. I was DYING to see that scene where Luke at the > mayor's mansion sees Laura for the 1st time after she escaped from the > Cassadines! They saved that for the montage at the end. That was > disappointing! Overall, it was pretty good. I think they needed 2 hours > at least though! > > > - > > == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH: Anniversary Show Date: 03 Apr 1998 10:44:29 -0500 The first half hour had me laughing out loud again and again...from 9:30-9:40 I sat here bawling like a baby, and then went back to laughing again. Oh, God, I didn't remember how great the acting was between Kristina & Jackie during the BJ/Maxie storyline! And then throw in Stone dying, I was hysterical by the end! They really put those scenes together well. It looks like maybe there is some truth to the rumors that one of the reasons Genie Francis won't come back yet is she's unhappy with her weight. I agree w/Geri, who cares about the weight business. I must say that her hair looked better than I've ever seen it look. She looked great!....And why can't Vanessa Marcil ever sit like a normal person in a chair. Why must she ALWAYS sit w/her legs crossed! An hour just wasn't enough to show all scenes and characters that haven't been on in such a long time. You'd think they'd do a greatest of.. tape of GH, by itself, besides the Luke & Laura tapes! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers Date: 03 Apr 1998 23:18:31 -0500 General Hospital Spoilers for the week of April 6, 1998 Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > You all have probably seen all of these spoilers in some form or another but here goes.... These spoilers come from that page that some posted to the list before. I usually use this page as one of my sources for my weekly spoiler update. When I went there recently I saw that the web site author said no copying of spoilers yada yadda yada. This person has no right to tell me I can't copy the spoilers. The spoilers came from other magazines that she didn't even cite on her web page. This information is NOT her intellectual property or written property, so legally she has no right to copyright the information. When I saw this I was really irked. Luckily for me I got over it and decided to post the spoilers anyway. If this makes me a bad person so be it. I think I am a kind person. I allow everyone and anyone to copy anything they want from my soap opera web page or any of my other web pages. Many people on the net are knid this way also. I hope that my trashing this person isn't against list rules. If it is please let me know and I am sorry if I offended anyone. I had to get that off my chest. Now that that is over... Important Stuff: MONDAY: • Tess' plan comes to an explosive conclusion. • Mac overhears Felicia saying that she loves him. TUESDAY: • Jason gets an unlikely cellmate. WEDNESDAY: • Stefan gears up for battle with Luke. THURSDAY: • Mac makes a disturbing realization regarding Jax. FRIDAY: • Alan takes desperate measures and meets with a drug dealer. • Jax meets up with his brother Jerry • A major confrontation happens between Luke and Stefan. More Stuff: After Katherine learns something about Stefan, she tries to put Luke's mind at ease. Sarah gets upsetting news from Nikolas. She blames Robin, but Nikolas denies it. Taggert comes through with sensitivity, which impresses Dara. Liz and Lucky go back to the scene of the crime. Felicia is in a harmful predicament after Mac and she step in to do what Jax hired them for. Carly butts in where she shouldn't. Alan verbally attacks Emily, and Monica urges him to get some help. Luke and Stefan have words. After Brenda and Jax continue to get closer, Jax makes a shocking proposal. Bobbie talks to Lucas and tries to explain Tony's situation. Mac and Felicia decide to continue their charade. The Quartermaines are affected by the dock situation. Alan contacts a drug dealer. Mac discovers who may be behind Tess' plot. Jason and Carly bond in Florida, when Carly goes to pack up her mother's belongings. Coming Up: A family confrontation upsets Jax. Tony hooks up with Felicia, and Bobbie feels betrayed. Look for a battle between Nikolas and Luke. At a hearing for Tony, Robin testifies and surprizes everyone. Maurice Benard DOES Return... General Hospital has not officially confirmed it, but Maurice Benard is bringing Sonny back just in time for May sweeps. Benard has only signed on for a short run. Look for a major impact on Brenda's life. Mac and Felicia Saves Jax's Life, but Brenda is Injured.... Mac and Felicia step in to save Jax's life which infuriates Tess, and she then takes Felicia hostage, and reveals that she may have to kill her. Mac comes to her rescue and overhears Felicia pouring out her heart about her true feelings for Mac. They later tie up Tess and proceed with their investigation. Brenda is slightly wounded in the explosion. She opens up to Jax. Just as it appears that she is getting to him and they are about to make love, Jax pulls back - he realizes what he is doing. Instead of sending the culprit to prison, he makes an odd business deal. Mac fears that danger is still in the making for Jax. Jax's parents come back to Port Charles and Brenda reveals to them that she plans to woo back their son. As Mac further investigates the assassination attempt on Jax, the trail leads close to home as Jax' brother Jerry, arrives in town. Carly and Jason Change Their Relationship .... Although the week starts off with Jason being angry at Carly for inadvertently triggering a strike on the docks, he doesn't stay mad for long. Carly prepares for a trip to Florida to pack up Virginia's house. As she's packing a message comes in from Robin that she wants to talk to Jason. When Jason is unable to get to the hospital, he asks Carly to go and find out what Robin needs. Carly goes to the hospital with good intentions, but soon gets upset at Robin. Robert Guza explains that Carly says to Robin, "When you first suspected that Tony had Michael, you could have told Jason right there, or you could have told the police. Instead, you had to be the avenging angel and go up there on your own. As a result, you gave Jason another few days of hell, not knowing if Michael was dead or alive. You could have blown the whole deal!" Robin replies that she was afraid of what Jason might have done to Tony. Kimberly McCullough (Robin) says, "Even though Carly is a liar and a manipulator, a lot of things she said were true. Like when Carly said Robin looks at Jason like a little boy. I think it hit Robin like, 'Whoa, I want to be attractive to him too; I want to be a woman to him. And I need to look at him in that way, too' " When Robin tells Carly that Jason will have to make his own decisions, Carly sees that as a green light and that she can make Jason hers in every sense. Jason joins Carly on the trip to Florida. During some bonding moments between the two, Jason kind of commits to the relationship. When they get back to Port Charles, Carly decides that the bond they shared in Florida paves the way for what, to Carly, is the next logical step in their relationship. As they prepare for bed, Carly puts on her sexiest nightgown and goes to Jason's room. Jason is already asleep. When Carly gets into the bed beside him, and begins to kiss him, Jason responds to Carly in the way that she had hoped and the passion builds. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Felicia Date: 06 Apr 1998 18:58:04 -0700 Catching up on this week's worth of GH and PC. Watching Felicia's reaction to Tony kidnapping Michael and holding Robin captive makes me so sick. Ms. Felicia "Never Forgive Kevin" Jones is just going to fall in line and forgive Tony? Geez. What a hypocrite. I wish Bobbie wasn't the only one who smacked him. And I wish Mac had klobbered Jax. Oh yeah, what's wrong with Mac? How DARE he worry about Robin more than Jax? Insensative clod. Pfft. Taiyin "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Justus Date: 06 Apr 1998 19:18:06 -0700 He shaved! No!! Taiyin, at least Kevin hasn't... "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Felicia and Intro Date: 05 Apr 1998 23:06:38 -0600 I have a Felicia question so I figure this is a good time to introduce myself-- I'm Rebecca, and subbed to this list just last week. I like to lurk for a while, but as I have question, oh well. Something tells me this is the best place to get a good answer:). I like mailing lists because I enjoy hearing other's opinions and interpretations of people and things. I also belong to two X-Files ML's. I haven't been watching GH for a long time- on and off over the past couple of years, but recently I have a roommate who taped it everyday and had the audacity to make me watch it with her at night! I couldn't believe I had ever not realized what a perfect man Jason is in all my past viewings! So now the VCR is on continious taping command for GH :). And, I must admit, I had to jumpstart my heart with chocolate after seeing him in his tuxedo on Friday--YUM! And I always thought the black leather jacket was so great! What can I say? I am a sucker for a man who can cough up jewels in a heartbeat :). I am 25, so I do remember the infamous L&L storylines of past years and I think it is great the way GH is resurrecting them now. (My mom watched all ABC soaps: Ryan's Hope, AMC and GH.) I am an English Lit. major, so I have developed this nasty habit of noticing things like narrative technique, symbolism, metaphor and metonymy, theory discourse etc. in things, so I aplogize for anything I may notice in advance :) Now for my question-- What exactly is the relationship between Felicia and Tony? Are they the link in BJ and Maxie? I missed this part-- thanks! Rebecca >Taiyin wrote: > Watching Felicia's reaction to Tony kidnapping Michael and holding Robin > captive makes me so sick. Ms. Felicia "Never Forgive Kevin" Jones is just > going to fall in line and forgive Tony? Geez. What a hypocrite. > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Traci Dyann Haley" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Felicia and Intro Date: 05 Apr 1998 22:13:57 -0700 <> Felicia used to be married to Tony's brother, Frisco. Traci http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Bistro/3266/ remy@empnet.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Felicia and Intro Date: 05 Apr 1998 23:41:49 -0600 Traci Dyann Haley wrote: > > > Felicia used to be married to Tony's brother, Frisco. > Thank you! Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: SOD article--SPOILERS included Date: 06 Apr 1998 10:15:56 PDT somebody on pc online typed in this article from SOD. it's about j&b, and has what *i* consider VERY BAD NEWS, in light of the previously-announced rumor/spoiler...um, time for space now, i guess... r e g a r d i n g m a y s w e e p s regarding the previously-mentioned rumor of a possible sonny return. if THIS is what they're doing that for, let him STAY AWAY. i can't take it, I JUST CAN'T TAKE IT!!!!! read at your own peril. they're not specific, but reading between the lines, what i see does NOT make me happy... I thought someone might enjoy this article from the new SOD... Over and Out?...Brenda is Fighting to Win Jax's Heart...But It May Be A Losing Battle... She's flown in oysters from Ireland...arranged a romantic gambling getaway...even taken a bullet for the man she loves(okay, so it was only a flesh wound-it still counts). But the last time we checked, GH's Brenda was being dumped(literally and figuratively) on her butt by Jax after pouring out her heart to him. So why won't GH's most-eligible billionaire give in to Brenda's Get-Back Jax campain? ''It's still about Sonny,'' sighs GH Head Writer Bob Guza, JR. ''Yes, Brenda got shot, but it still doesn't prove she's past Sonny. And that's the one thing Jax needs to believe. That's one of the things we try to address. I mean, arguably, she could take all the bullets in the world, but if Sonny walked in the door tomorrow, what would Brenda do? ''Jax needs to know that if Sonny showed up and said, Let's do it--I'll own a hardware store, Brenda wouldn't say, I'm sorry Jax, but I have to go,'' asserts Vanessa Marcil. ''I think that is an important part of Brenda and Jax's success as a couple. Brenda is definitely the love of Jax's life, so it's hard for him to think he is not the love of her life''. Marcil points out, though, that Brenda has matured since falling in love with Sonny four years ago. ''Sonny will always be Brenda's first love,'' states the actress. ''But that doesn't always mean that your first big true love is the person who can make you happy forever.'' Despite Brenda and Sonny's obvious love for each other, she was almost killed because of him. ''I don't think anyone can argue that he is not good for her'', agrees Marcil. ''She is not safe when she is with him. Their kids would not be safe. I think that you can love two people, so it doesn't necessarily mean Jax is second choice. It is more that Jax is the love of Brenda's adult life. You change in life. I don't think she loves one more than the other; she just loves them differently.'' [here comes the REALLY gruesome part...julie] Will Brenda ever get the chance to prove to Jax that she would choose him over Sonny at this point? ''That's a problem,'' Guza agrees, ''because Jax needs to see something like this dramatized. He needs to know Brenda is past Sonny and that Jax is the one she wants-not Jax in lieu of Sonny. Ideally for Jax, there would be Jax behind Door A, and Sonny behind Door B, the doors would open and Brenda would choose Jax. Right now, the situation-as Jax and everybody believes it-is that Sonny left Brenda at the altar. So it's like, she can't have Sonny, therefore she's going after Jax. And Jax can't accept that.'' Which is not to say he's not enjoying Brenda's woo-pitching while it lasts. ''Jax is always amused,'' smiles Guza. ''He loves all this grand stuff--the gambling and all that. He's having a great time, and he is slowly weakening. But he can't be second best-not again-and that thought never strays from his mind. Jax loves Brenda too much. He cannot open his heart to her in such a way that he could have it broken again. It would kill him.'' And speaking of killing Jax, let's not forget that whomever arranged the ill-fated assassination attempt is still out ther--a fact which hasn't been lost on Jax's parent's, who show up at his penthouse on Thursday to check in on their walking-target of a son. ''John and Jane pay Jax a visit,'' says Guza. ''He has no idea that they're coming, but he's happy they're there. They have that unique Jax-Jane-John relationship where they'll just go out and hunt moose for breakfast, then bond(laughs).'' Mission No. 2 for John and Jane is to check out the state of their son's love life. ''Jax is very close with his parents,'' notes the scribe. ''He has told them all along what's been happening with Brenda. In their minds, Jane and John do feel like Brenda chose Sonny over their son. But Brenda wins them over. She knows Jax wants her. It's not a question of making Jax love her, it's about making Jax know she is the one for hom, and she knows his parent's can help her accomplish that.'' Too bad their help comes right before Jax vows to set things straight with Brenda. ''He sits Brenda down in order to tell her it's over,'' reveals Guza. But just as Jax is about to get to that all-important ''it's over'' part, the heart-to heartbreaking is interrupted by his parents. Phew-Brenda dodges yet another bullet. ''Brenda is willing to be patient,'' smiles Marcil. ''It isn't just, 'Fix me!' It's more, 'I'll wait. It's cool.' She is trying to learn a more mature kind of love.'' As evidence, Marcil points out that Brenda has been keeping mum about the fact that Jax left her at the altar the year before when Miranda showed up. ''Jax literally walked out the door in his tux, leaving Brenda standing there in her wedding dress,'' she reminds us. ''She had chosen Jax over Sonny. So this is an important route for Brenda to be taking. She is looking at it in a mature way. Not, 'I'm sorry for what I did, but what about what YOU did?''' [PARDON ME?!? his presumed-dead first wife had just returned from the grave!!! even if he HADN'T walked out the door, there's no WAY they could've gotten married that day anyway. anyone ever heard of bigamy??? ] Exellent point. But Jax's confusion is the least of his worries. Mac and Felicia are about to dig up a shocking link to the assasination attempt on Jax's life: Jerry Jax. ''We think that there's going to be a real threat to Jax and Brenda...and that it's Jax's own brother,'' confirms Guza. On Friday, Mac goes to Jax with the incriminating evidence he's gathered on Jerry. Jax then informs Mac he will handle the situation privately. Jerry's arrival could spell bad news, not only for Jax, but for the future of Brenda and Jax. ''What's going to happen is that Jerry's crossing the line is going to put the entire family--particularly Jax and Brenda--in dire straits.'' Whew, that was alot! Also, Jax confronts Jerry on Monday, April 13..and Tony gets an unlikely offer of help on Tuesday, April 14. ARE TPTB NUTS??? ARE THEY *REALLY* TRYING TO DRIVE AWAY ALL THE S&B/SONNY FANS ENTIRELY????? if they bring sonny back for no other reason than to facilitate j&b, part three, or four, of whatever we're up to...i think i'm going to be ill. just had to share that. julie p.s. taiyin--sorry to hear about your break-in...that sucks! and sadly, i taped friday's shows over thursdays, so i can't even share my tape of pc with you. sorry 'bout that... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: Carly and Jason Date: 06 Apr 1998 17:13:28 -0700 (PDT) A random thought about today's ep: Carly's triggering of the strike didn't seem "inadvertant" to me . I'm *so* uncomfortable with the direction that Carly and Jason's relationship is going. While I certainly don't mind the thought of them as a "couple" in all senses of the word, I wish they'd quit fumbling around. Jason should make it clear where he wants to draw the line; buying Carly expensive jewelry is incredibly sweet, but I think it's going to send the wrong message. Why does it bother me? I don't know. Maybe I'm the only person in the world who isn't strongly anti- or pro- couple on these two. Anybody want to convince me one way or the other? ;) --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: SOD article--SPOILERS included Date: 06 Apr 1998 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Julie wrote: >i think i'm going to be ill. Somebody get the slop bucket! ;) A S P O I L E R I S H Q U E R Y Do we know who's going to be playing Jerry, yet? Maybe they can get Charles Keating, since he's leaving AW. Bwahahaha! --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Felicia and Intro Date: 07 Apr 1998 07:54:56 -0700 At 11:06 PM 4/5/98 -0600, Rebecca wrote: >I have a Felicia question so I figure this is a good time to introduce >myself-- I'm Rebecca, and subbed to this list just last week. I like to >lurk for a while, but as I have question, oh well. Something tells me >this is the best place to get a good answer:). Well, since your question has already been answered, I'll just say welcome, Rebecca! ObGH: I watched the week's worth of stuff last week (thank gods I have no school this week, I can actually keep up with the eps everyday instead of hording them and having to rush through them all at once), and it still amazes me that when it comes down to a showdown between Carly and Brenda, that I end up squarely on Carly's side. Her little "meow, meow, meow" routine at Brenda on Friday was too delightful for words. Although, I have to say, that Katherine and Stefan last week, and their whole routine with the vase and the candle holders, was alarmingly cute. I was especially fond of the look on his face when she called the candle holders "pig ugly." And him hiding them behind the cushion on the couch was priceless. Just somebody shoot me, please, before I start to actually LIKE them. Taiyin "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: Carly and Jason Date: 06 Apr 1998 17:13:28 -0700 (PDT) A random thought about today's ep: Carly's triggering of the strike didn't seem "inadvertant" to me . I'm *so* uncomfortable with the direction that Carly and Jason's relationship is going. While I certainly don't mind the thought of them as a "couple" in all senses of the word, I wish they'd quit fumbling around. Jason should make it clear where he wants to draw the line; buying Carly expensive jewelry is incredibly sweet, but I think it's going to send the wrong message. Why does it bother me? I don't know. Maybe I'm the only person in the world who isn't strongly anti- or pro- couple on these two. Anybody want to convince me one way or the other? ;) --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 09:45:18 -0400 I know I'll probably get slaughtered for this one, but I happen to love Brenda & Jax together. Yesterday's episode w/them was really good. Don't get me wrong, I love Sonny, but c'mon, who could resist those baby blues!...On another note, that sniper was a professional? The guy was about 5 ft. from his "intended target" and he still missed! That was a little much don'tcha think? And what's the deal w/Felicia not being able to overcome Tess? Does anyone remember when Frisco was taking the karate lessons & he was teaching Felicia? She was a tough cookie then. Tess was tossing her around like nobody's business. Sorry, it just annoyed me a bit! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: SOD article--SPOILERS included Date: 06 Apr 1998 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Julie wrote: >i think i'm going to be ill. Somebody get the slop bucket! ;) A S P O I L E R I S H Q U E R Y Do we know who's going to be playing Jerry, yet? Maybe they can get Charles Keating, since he's leaving AW. Bwahahaha! --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 11:26:32 EST5EDT > I know I'll probably get slaughtered for this one, but I happen to love > Brenda & Jax together. Yesterday's episode w/them was really good. Don't > get me wrong, I love Sonny, but c'mon, who could resist those baby > blues! ITA with you! I loved Sonny with Brenda, but I also liked J&B in Malibu. I was REALLY sorry to see Sonny leave PC, but now that he is gone, I think Brenda should get on with her life and I think that life includes Jax. I hope that she can get some closure soon so she can move on. I think that Jerry could add some spice to J&B as long as it is NOT A TRIANGLE!! Any comments?? gina BTW.....I have question about a spoiler... T H E S P A C E How do you think Robin is going to testify at Tony's hearing? If it is in Tony's favor, then it shouldn't be a "Surprise" to anyone!! I hope she isn't the witness that gets Tony off the hook, that could create WWIII with Carly!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amy Schatz Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 12:34:02 -0400 I know I'll probably get slaughtered for this one, but I happen to love >Brenda & Jax together. Yesterday's episode w/them was really good. Finally!! An ally!!! You're not alone in loving Jax and Brenda together - but I think *we're* alone. Amy ================================== "My egg is crowning!" --MST3K, "Prince of Space" Owner of the "Sweet Ride!" LOL. "Relationships are very important to me." "Well, maybe you can strike one up with the Prince of Darkness while you burn for all eternity." --Elaine and Jerry, "Seinfeld" Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/hello.html There's links to X-Files, my XF Fanfiction, Prey, music and more!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: RE: GH/PC: GH Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 12:40:53 -0400 I think that Jerry could add some spice to J&B as long as it is NOT A TRIANGLE!! Unfortunately, I think they are going to head into a triangle w/Jerry, Brenda & Jax! I was really shocked that they set them up to kiss yesterday. It really was a good scene. Especially the look on Brenda's face when he said he'd send a note. I was chucklin' out loud! I can't wait to see Sonny come back. I hope they don't mess it up like they did the one time Frisco came back. I'm sure I have that tape somewhere. I don't know about you guys, but I have many, many, many tapes from GH. Anyway, does anyone know exactly how long Maurice is scheduled to be on when he comes back? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 12:44:31 -0400 You're not alone in loving Jax and Brenda together - but I think *we're* alone. Wow, I can't believe the S&B lovers haven't come outta the wood work yet! Don't get me wrong, Brenda was great w/both of them. Does anybody ever wonder why they refer to Sonny as Brenda's 1st love? Hello, Jagger! I don't know about anyone else, but who could forget Antonio Sabato, Jr. (by the way, I did meet him in person & let me tell you girls, that boy is amazing!!!) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 09:57:26 PDT Danielle Graham wrote: >I know I'll probably get slaughtered for this one, but I happen to >love Brenda & Jax together. Yesterday's episode w/them was really >good. Don't get me wrong, I love Sonny, but c'mon, who could resist >those baby blues!. well (big shock, i know!) i just CAN'T agree with you! :) i like jax, a LOT (and he is DEFINITELY a god...), and i USED to like brenda, but i just can't stomach them together anymore. i liked them back during the malibu days, too...but so much has gone on with them, and sonny, that i just can't see them together anymore. like jax said, i think it's too late. now if only JAX would believe that! i was SCREAMING at him yesterday when he kissed her, asking if THIS is how he intends to send the message that things are over between them?!? but i DID have to chuckle when he left her and said he'd be sure to write a thank-you note first thing in the morning. i think it was BEYOND trite for tptb to have BRENDA be the one injured in the shooting (and that tiny bit of blood? please, i've scraped my KNEE and bled more than that...) i thought it would have been MUCH more interesting for v to take a bullet, being as she was the one who tried, in vain, to convince jax that something was off in the first place. >And what's the deal w/Felicia not being able >to overcome Tess? Does anyone remember when Frisco was taking the >karate lessons & he was teaching Felicia? She was a tough cookie >then. Tess was tossing her around like nobody's business. Sorry, it >just annoyed me a bit! didn't she also try boxing back when jagger was on? i think she was even the one who took on the owner of the place and got him to allow women in the ring, if i'm not mistaken. so i agree...that was pretty pathetic. although i liked mac overhearing that felicia loves him. i just hope he's not going to be a putz about it now. julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: PC/GH: GH Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 13:13:46 -0400 >I know I'll probably get slaughtered for this one, but I happen to >love Brenda & Jax together. Yesterday's episode w/them was really >good. i was SCREAMING at him yesterday when he kissed her, asking if THIS is how he intends to send the message that things are over between them?!? Yeah, really! Guess that's the ol' heart says one thing & the head the another. i think it was BEYOND trite for tptb to have BRENDA be the one injured in the shooting (and that tiny bit of blood? please, i've scraped my KNEE and bled more than that...) i thought it would have been MUCH more interesting for v to take a bullet, being as she was the one who tried, in vain, to convince jax that something was off in the first place. 1st have to say, thanx for that lil' chuckle Julie. And ITA that Brenda shouldn't have been the one to get shot. If you can call it that. I think Emily got more hurt than she did. V would've been my choice, too. And what's the deal w/Felicia not being able >to overcome Tess? didn't she also try boxing back when jagger was on? i think she was even the one who took on the owner of the place and got him to allow women in the ring, if i'm not mistaken. You're absolutely right. I totally forgot about that. She could definitely kick butt then! And yeah, she was pathetic, too. although i liked mac overhearing that felicia loves him. i just hope he's not going to be a putz about it now. Ok, now I'm really gonna be putting my foot in my mouth, but I don't like Mac & Felicia together...AT ALL. I mean, I like that they are really good friends, but I really never saw the sparks! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: PC recap for taiyin Date: 07 Apr 1998 10:12:08 PDT taiyin wrote: >So, anyone wanna fill me in on PC in details? And when is Jon's >crossover to GH, do we know yet? i don't know anything about a crossover, but i'll do my best to fill you in on pc. somebody will have to refresh my memory if i miss anything. was it just yesterday's you missed? assuming so... well, it was quite an eventful day. kevin told lucy about his ryan dream, and she told him to try not to think about it because when he does he always goes to that dark place, but he told her he couldn't because he was worried victor was lying to him about something. so he dug out the one box of victor's that victor had told him NOT to go through, and he and lucy started looking through it. they came across a picture of kevin and ryan as kids...when victor came into the room, saw them going through his stuff, and got really pissed. he took his stuff back and stormed off, refusing to listen to kevin or answer any of his questions, and later set off the fire alarm by burning the stuff in his trash can. meanwhile reporters showed up at the front door asking lucy about her portrayal in "general homicide," and did she have any idea who could have written it. she said she was sure it was somone intelligent, handsome, sexy, etc., and they asked if she thought the jumper on the hospital roof was real or just another publicity stunt for the book. kevin said, "what jumper?" and rushed off to help, leaving lucy to look after victor. which brings us to...frank, julie and eve, who were calling all over creation looking for lark when frank got paged to come help with someone on the hospital roof threatening to jump. of course, he gets there to find out it's lark. he tries to talk her down, but she's hysterical about how she ruined everything and nobody loves her and nobody wants her, etc. he finally convinces her that he won't send her away, and that HE was the one who screwed up by not being responsible or mature enough to be a foster parent. he convinces her to come off the ledge, hands her across to the paramedics, and is about to follow her when the brick beneath him crumbles and frank falls...fade to black...run credits. it was a pretty good ep, actually...although based on the promos i've seen, i hope julie PUMMELS lark for this one, because things do NOT look good for frank. did i miss anything, anyone? julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 10:45:44 -0700 At 12:44 PM 4/7/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: >Wow, I can't believe the S&B lovers haven't come outta the wood work >yet! Was that my cue? Actually, I'm not a Sonny and Brenda fan. I used to be (before she wore the wire), but that was years ago. Mostly I'm just a Maurice Benard fan. My sister and I spent most of this weekend with the Stone/AIDS storyline on TV just for background noise, and just about every scene that totally knocked the wind out of me was with and because of Maurice. The man was astounding. I just don't like Jax and Brenda individually. Together they annoy me beyond words. And sorry, Jill, no amount of great pecs does the trick. No cute accent, either. I just DON'T like blond guys. Can't help it. >Don't get me wrong, Brenda was great w/both of them. Does anybody >ever wonder why they refer to Sonny as Brenda's 1st love? Hello, Jagger! Yeah, I was noticing that, too. I guess they meant more in terms of an adult relationship. Brenda and jagger were cute, but they were a little more on the "hormonal teenager" end of the scale. >I don't know about anyone else, but who could forget Antonio Sabato, Jr. Heh. Not me. Oh baby. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC/GH: GH Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 10:50:11 -0700 At 01:13 PM 4/7/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: >Ok, now I'm really gonna be putting my foot in my mouth, but I don't >like Mac & Felicia together...AT ALL. I mean, I like that they are >really good friends, but I really never saw the sparks! I think poor John York must have the most awkward job in daytime, because they keep pairing him off with these beautiful women, they have chemistry for about five minutes and then it goes flat. I liked Felicia and Mac for about as long as I liked Mac and Katherine. I liked them when they were playing cat and mouse, but by the time they actually got together -- Yawn City. And I love them now as friends. Putting them back together at this point almost feels incestuous to me. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH Mac & Felicia Date: 07 Apr 1998 14:06:32 -0400 think poor John York must have the most awkward job in daytime, because they keep pairing him off with these beautiful women, they have chemistry for about five minutes and then it goes flat. I'm starting to think it may be John York. How come the other actresses have had chemistry w/other guys. Yeah, I have to say there's chemistry between Kat & Bat, sorry, I'm a Days of Our Lives fan, too. But I must say for the most part they get on my nerves! And I love them now as friends. Putting them back together at this point almost feels incestuous to me. Ditto!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "julie c ciaverella" Subject: GH/PC: whatever happened to the actor who played Stone? Date: 07 Apr 1998 15:08:37 -0400 Hi everyone! I've received this list for about a month now, but I've finally got something to add. Geri Fosseen wondered what became of the actor who played Stone (sorry, I can't remember his name). Check out the movie "Inventing the Abbott's" - he's got a small part and looks mighty fine too!! Julie C. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Traci Dyann Haley" Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 14:08:44 -0700 <> Nah...y'all aren't alone, guess that means we're the three musketeers? ::Grin:: I haven't liked J&B since the second S&B reunion, but yesterday that changed...how cute was THAT scene with the bed?! I just loved how Jax blinked and said "This?" But really, I have one criticism...all this build up over a shooting and what happens? Brenda "Lassie" Barrett gets NICKED?? HELLO?? ::sigh:: Beam me up, Scotty, Traci ~*~ remy@empnet.com ICQ #1394469 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Bistro/3266 Ask me about my AQHA Palomino Stallion for sale! Bide the Witch's law ye must, In perfect love, in perfect trust. Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill: An ye harm none, do what ye will. What ye send forth comes back to thee, So ever mind the Rule of Three. Follow this with mind and heart, And merry ye meet, and merry ye part. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" Subject: GH/PC: PC Date: 07 Apr 1998 18:24:11 -0700 Just watched todays episode of PC. Is the character Frank Scalaon going to die or is he off doing other things for a few weeks. Sure hope he's not leaving the show, even though he can be a little dense at times - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "lela" Subject: GH/PC: RE: Brenda & Jax Date: 07 Apr 1998 20:38:38 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BD6265.24C2B140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to agree with most of you out there, I really like Jax and Brenda = together. I hope when Sonny comes back, she can finally put him to = rest. I've really enjoyed watching J&B the last couple of days, = especially when he took her upstairs and put her on the bed, then said = he was going home! I definitely laughed at that one. I will truly be sick if they put Jason and Carly together. She makes me = sick, talk about being on a pitty pot. Everything has to revolve around = her. =20 I really enjoyed today's episode when they put Taggert in jail with = Jason. It made me laugh, especially when Garcia let Jason go and = Taggert had to stay there. Lydia ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BD6265.24C2B140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have to agree with most of you out = there, I=20 really like Jax and Brenda together.  I hope when Sonny comes back, = she can=20 finally put him to rest.  I've really enjoyed watching J&B the = last=20 couple of days, especially when he took her upstairs and put her on the = bed,=20 then said he was going home!  I definitely laughed at that=20 one.
 
I will truly be sick if they put = Jason and Carly=20 together.  She makes me sick, talk about being on a pitty = pot. =20 Everything has to revolve around her. 
 
I really enjoyed today's episode = when they put=20 Taggert in jail with Jason.  It made me laugh, especially when = Garcia let=20 Jason go and Taggert had to stay there.
 
Lydia
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LOL! == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: RE: Brenda & Jax Date: 08 Apr 1998 12:13:11 EST5EDT > I will truly be sick if they put Jason and Carly together. ITA!! I think that Robin and Jason need to work alot of issues out, but in the end they deserve to be together. I used to like Jason and Carly as friends, but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make everyone else miserable. I enjoy Sarah Brown's acting ability, but I want Carly to get what is coming to her...living in a penthouse and receiving diamonds is NOT what I had in mind.:) I would like to see more interaction between Carly and the Spencers than Carly and Jason!! BTW...what did ya'll think about the confortation between Robin and Carly yesterday? It wasn't what I expected. > > I really enjoyed today's episode when they put Taggert in jail with = > Jason. I loved Jason's wink and Garcia's LOD when he told Taggert that he thought that Jason couldn't smile!(I don't remember exactly what he said) I don't know who I am pulling for now....Justus or Taggert with Dara! Smiles....it's another beautiful day in SC!! Gina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: Today's PC Date: 08 Apr 1998 12:20:26 EST5EDT I was just wondering if anyone else was as touched by the scenes in the hospital (with Frank) as I was. Mary Scanlon almost brought tears to my eyes, not to mention the look on Joe's face. He looked like he was about to cry. I also enjoyed the scenes with Julie telling Frank that she loved him. (and can you believe that Dr. Devlin almost acted human towards his daughter!?!?) Just wondering everyone else's opinion. (BTW....Was Lark in the same room as Brenda was in??:):)) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Yesterday's Episode Date: 08 Apr 1998 13:34:21 -0400 I used like Jason and Carly as friends, but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make everyone else miserable. I agree w/that whole-heartedly. They were making Jason a different type of character as he couldn't tell a lie. That was refreshing for a Soap. Now, he admits he'd tell the truth if someone asked. That's a bunch of bull! I enjoy Sarah Brown's acting ability, but I want Carly to get what is coming to her...living in a penthouse and receiving diamonds is NOT what I had in mind.:) ITA with that also. I kinda feel she's headed in the "Lucy" of old path, being broke then hooking up w/the Quartermaines. Everytime Edward opens his mouth, I think he's up to something else. what did ya'll think about the confortation between Robin and Carly yesterday? Disappointing big time. I thought they'd give ol' Robin some backbone. I'm a dreamer! > I really enjoyed today's episode when they put Taggert in jail with = > Jason. Yeah, again ITA w/the "wink" & the smile. But how about Taggart doing those sit-ups? Everytime he starts to talk he makes me laugh out loud. They are really writing well for Taggart & Real is pulling it off fabulously! I don't know who I am pulling for now....Justus or Taggert with Dara! Justus who??? 'Nuff said. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: GH--huh??? Date: 08 Apr 1998 11:46:48 PDT ok, i'm getting kind of confused by gh these days. yesterday's episode, with jax's "plan" to get back at the assassins without involving the law...does that make sense to ANYONE? and especially, does it make sense that v, ms. by-the-book, would go along with it? i've read a lot of speculations (do they require space? well...just in case...) s p e c u l a t i o n s p a c e that jax may ultimately be behind the assassination attempt (intending for it to fail, obviously), which at first confused me mightily. i mean, why go through all the trouble, and risk your precious brender getting a life-threatening injury (LOL!), but others have pointed out that he could have done it in order to cause trouble for jason, which i suppose is a possibility. but i STILL didnt' believe it...until yesterday. yesterday was just too odd for me. anyone else? although, it DID have the funniest thing i've seen on gh in a while... those nametags! "hi, i'm mac," and "hi, i'm NOT mac"!!! that was hilarious! :) oh, one more thing...if you were laura, and YOU had been completely unable to contact either your husband or your son, after repeated efforts, for what must be weeks now...wouldn't you hop on the next plane to port charles to check things out? i'm telling you, if laura's NOT coming back they'd be far better off just leaving well enough alone. when they keep TALKING about her, digging this hole even deeper, it really makes you wonder what possible reason they'll possibly be able to concoct for her staying away so long. (on the other hand, it DOES give me hope that she could possibly show up unexpectedly, without warning, one of these days!) julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 08 Apr 1998 13:46:01 -0500 Gina wrote: >but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie >about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make >everyone else miserable. Is everybody else miserable? A.J. has pretty much admitted that 1) he would have taken Michael away from Carly but 2) after going through the whole kidnapping thing, he realizes that's not necessarily the best scenario. He's moved forward in his relationship with Keesha, who can't stand Carly, and would probably be pretty darned unhappy to know that there is a lingering, and growing , tie between A.J. and Carly. Edward would undoubtedly be happier if the baby was A.J.'s, so I suppose he might be "miserable." If Alan weren't drugged out, I'd say that thinking Michael is Jason's son makes him happy. Alan's relationship with Jason was a strong one; it's possible that he hasn't given up on the notion that fatherhood might mellow Jason's resentment towards the Q's. Monica would probably be happier, but her problem is with Jason, not with Carly (on the whole). Emily would be happy either way, but I have a sneaking suspicion that she likes being Michael's godmother, because it gives her another tie to Jason. As for the Spencers.... I don't think it would matter to Bobbie. I suspect Luke, in the long run, would vastly prefer any relative of his to be Jason's and not A.J.'s . >I would like to see >more interaction between Carly and the Spencers than Carly and >Jason!! I do miss Carly and Luke. But Carly really doesn't have any place in Luke's current storyline. In a private note to me, which she's given permission for me to respond to here, Jill wrote: >I'd like them as a couple IF Carly were going about it in >an honest way (yeah, like that'll happen). She knows perfectly >well he's in love with Robin-- he's told her this. Now, IMO her >strategy should be to continue insinuating herself into his life >-- but being very up-front about it, rather than sneaky. She's >also getting off on his power, and that's dangerous, since I don't >think even Jason gets off on his own power. I think Jason does >what he does because of Sonny, really, and I don't know how he'll >feel if he realizes that Carly thinks it's "cool" that he's a mobster. I think that both Jason and Carly are fooling themselves about Carly's character, and the situation as a whole. Carly has shown time and again that she'll use any means necessary to get what she wants, and it's foolish of both of them not to realize that Jason's power gives Carly a dangerous opportunity. It was nice to see Jason come down on her so hard in the limo, if only for that reason. But the situation itself should be clarified between them. Yes, Jason has told Carly that he loves Robin. But the situation has moved beyond that black & white statement. Did he ever tell Carly that there couldn't be a relationship between them? And if he did, has he said it lately? What he *really* should start doing is setting her up on dates with other guys . Jill again: >I'm just waiting for the day that Carly starts using Michael as >a threat to Jason-- i.e. "dump me and you lose Michael." Once >she does that-- and we all know she WILL-- she'd better watch out. Oh my word. Another reason why I don't want to watch this situation play out. I really like Jason with Michael! ;) --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH--huh??? Date: 08 Apr 1998 14:53:12 -0700 At 11:46 AM 4/8/98 PDT, Julie Saker wrote: > >although, it DID have the funniest thing i've seen on gh in a while... >those nametags! "hi, i'm mac," and "hi, i'm NOT mac"!!! that was >hilarious! :) That's cuz V rocks. She cracked me up during that whole thing. She was so off-handed about the entire, BIZARRE situation that it was hard not to giggle the whole time. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 08 Apr 1998 14:59:51 -0700 At 01:46 PM 4/8/98 -0500, Cagey wrote: > >Is everybody else miserable? A.J. has pretty much admitted that 1) he >would have taken Michael away from Carly but 2) after going through the >whole kidnapping thing, he realizes that's not necessarily the best >scenario. He's also admitted that he didn't really WANT to be the father. He wanted something in his life, and when the possibility of the kid being his came up he latched onto it blindly. >Edward would undoubtedly be happier if the baby was A.J.'s, so I suppose he >might be "miserable." Bah. He doesn't count. If he had his way that kid would be in boarding school before he was old enough to tell time. HIs vote doesn't count. >As for the Spencers.... I don't think it would matter to Bobbie. I >suspect Luke, in the long run, would vastly prefer any relative of his to >be Jason's and not A.J.'s . Hard to blame him there. >I do miss Carly and Luke. Immeasurabley. >But the situation has moved beyond that black & white statement. Did he >ever tell Carly that there couldn't be a relationship between them? And if >he did, has he said it lately? What he *really* should start doing is >setting her up on dates with other guys . Except the way that they've developed Jason, I don't think those are the kind of subtleties that he notices or realizes the importance of. It was like on Friday when Carly was getting ready. She was ACHING to get a real compliment out of him, and he just kept saying, "You look fine." Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: RE: Brenda & Jax Date: 08 Apr 1998 15:15:38 -0700 At 12:13 PM 4/8/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote: >ITA!! I think that Robin and Jason need to work alot of issues out, >but in the end they deserve to be together. I used to. And now, as much as it pains me to agree with Brenda's POV at all, I think that Robin going back to him would be too much like Brenda and Sonny -- minus the chemistry. I think Jason and Robin do have great chemistry (at least they used to -- I don't think it's as strong as it used to be, but I think that's because of the way Robin has been written the past few months), but not the kind of all-consuming, intensity that Sonny and brenda had. >I used to like Jason and >Carly as friends, but I lost alot of respect when Jason agreed to lie >about being Michael's father. He is just helping Carly to make >everyone else miserable. I enjoy Sarah Brown's acting ability, but I >want Carly to get what is coming to her...living in a penthouse and >receiving diamonds is NOT what I had in mind.:) Well, we already know that you and I disagree there , and I do think that the stunt she pulled on AJ while she was pregnant was enough to have her tarred and feathered for, but as for everything else... I think that it'd be a lot easier for me to work up some righteous indignation on AJ's behalf if he hadn't returned to being such a Quartermaine Toady. Her dealing him such a serious blow while he was working so hard at being his own person was dispicable, but that was largely because the character was finally working on finding his own voice and his own respecitiblity and he was transcending what is so infuriating about the general Quartermaines (superiority complex -- which all of them but Lila and Emily display to one extend or another). For me that was TOTALLY shot the SECOND he went back to the house and ELQ. So my days of sympathizing with AJ are history. If he wants to be one of Edwards lackies, then he'll get as much sympathy from me as Ned does. I always hated the way Ned treated AJ, but now that AJ is doing it back to Ned it's only worse. When AJ used to stand there and stare at Ned while he was going off on him and know himself well enough to where he could just disgard Ned's diatribes as "garbage in, garbage out," I loved AJ. Now that he feels the need to stoop to Ned's level all the time annoys me to no end. >BTW...what did ya'll think about the confortation between Robin and >Carly yesterday? It wasn't what I expected. It was the first time since Guza has started writing for Robin that I haven't wanted to smack her. It breaks my heart that a character I have loved for so long tends to irritate the daylights out of me as much as she has lately, but she has. And her finally acknowledging that she DOES try to control Jason made me finally feel like there is a little bit of hope for her. >I loved Jason's wink and Garcia's LOD when he told Taggert that he >thought that Jason couldn't smile!(I don't remember exactly what he >said) I don't know who I am pulling for now....Justus or Taggert >with Dara! Dara who? All I can think of is Taggart in that undershirt doing pushups on the floor of the cell. Rrrrooowww! Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH--huh??? Date: 08 Apr 1998 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) ---Julie Saker wrote: > > ok, i'm getting kind of confused by gh these days. yesterday's episode, > with jax's "plan" to get back at the assassins without involving the > law...does that make sense to ANYONE? and especially, does it make > sense that v, ms. by-the-book, would go along with it? i've read a lot > of speculations (do they require space? well...just in case...) > > s > p > e > c > u > l > a > t > i > o > n > > s > p > a > c > e > > that jax may ultimately be behind the assassination attempt (intending > for it to fail, obviously), which at first confused me mightily. i > mean, why go through all the trouble, and risk your precious brender > getting a life-threatening injury (LOL!), but others have pointed out > that he could have done it in order to cause trouble for jason, which i > suppose is a possibility. but i STILL didnt' believe it...until > yesterday. yesterday was just too odd for me. anyone else? > Ok....here's my theory, which seems to be suported by stuff I've read and heard....spoiler space coming.... S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E It's Jax's brother Jerry who's behind the whole thing. They've cast him and he's coming in the next week or so and they're bringing back his folks. Sooooo...if Jax suspects Jerry, maybe he doesn't want him arrested, he wants to deal with him his own way??? That's my theory... == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH Lucky & Liz Date: 09 Apr 1998 08:27:07 -0400 I can't believe how much I'm lovin' Lucky & Liz together. Even the little scenes that they share, you can just imagine how great their story is going to be. I loved the scene when Lucky was leaving thru Liz's bedroom window. It was almost as if he was going to kiss her. I know, I know, that's rushing the plot a bit, but as I've said before...I'm a dreamer. And also, I must take my hat off to Stuart Damon, for the 1st time in this whole drug-addicted story I was impressed. Didn't he really seem to be outta it when he kept saying...we're under siege, this is what siege is! He was great. Also, was anyone thinking Kat was in BIG trouble w/Stephan when she told him about telling Luke that he was once in love w/Laura? I think I said, uh, oh out loud! And what's the deal w/Nikolas these days? Does anyone actually like the thought of Robin & Nik together? Yuck! It irks the hell outta me that they keep trying to make Tyler look 17! Someone please give that boy a comb!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 09 Apr 1998 09:19:58 -0500 Taiyin wrote: >Except the way that they've developed Jason, I don't think those are the >kind of subtleties that he notices or realizes the importance of. Good point. I've become so tired of the "Jason has no emotions" lines from everybody except Robin and Carly, that I tend to forget that even though he does have feelings, Jason doesn't have the mastery of relationships that he ought to. Jason's been lucky, in a lot of ways. Sonny, Mike, Robin and Emily are all remarkably straight forward with him; he expects the Qs and cops and rival mobsters to be his enemies, and they act like it. Carly resides in a nebulous middle ground: she is his friend, needs his help, but is certainly not the straight forward "friend" he's used to dealing with. And he doesn't understand the importance of compliments . --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH Lucky & Liz Date: 10 Apr 1998 18:34:06 -0700 On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Danielle Graham wrote: > Also, > was anyone thinking Kat was in BIG trouble w/Stephan when she told him > about telling Luke that he was once in love w/Laura? I believe my comment was something unprintable on a family list. :) How INCREDIBLY STUPID of her! If she'd just gone to see Luke to try and mediate the problems, that's one thing; Stefan might even have appreciated it because it demonstrated her concern for Nik. But going to tell LUKE that Stefan LOVED HIS WIFE AT ONE TIME is like handing Luke a big ticking bomb and giving him permission to pick the place and time where it goes off. DUMB! DUMB! DUMB!! I did love when Stefan went down to slice up the portrait of Laura, though, and couldn't make himself do it. The only time I find him even marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry between Laura and Stefan. And Lord knows I don't enjoy the chemistry between Stefan and Katharine-- ew. Jill - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 10 Apr 1998 18:34:29 -0700 > Carly resides in a > nebulous middle ground: she is his friend, needs his help, but is > certainly not the straight forward "friend" he's used to dealing with. I'm probably not going to say this right... IMO, once Carly realized that she wanted Jason on more than a help-me-out-and-pretend-to-be-Michael's-father basis, she ceased being his friend (and I'm not sure if she even consciously realizes this, though she obviously does later this week based on spoilage) and started being someone that will use Jason just as much as anyone else tries to. Slightly shifting topic: there are two scenes that I KNOW we're eventually going to get, and that will be horribly, viciously entertaining to watch: 1) When Carly first threatens Jason, using the loss of Michael. I.e. "if you don't do such-and-so, I'll take Michael away from you." 2) When Carly tells Robin that she (Carly) can give Jason what Robin can't (babies, sex, you name it). And if Carly ever says that to Robin, I want Jason to overhear it-- because I can't think of anything Carly would do (except taking Michael away) that would make him so angry, or so dangerous. > And he doesn't understand the importance of compliments . > Does any man, really? If they truly understood how very far a quick "You look gorgeous" would get them, they'd be complimenting everyone, all the time, all day... ;) Jill - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Stephan Date: 10 Apr 1998 08:44:50 -0400 The only time I find him even marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry between Laura and Stefan. Like I said before, I'm a DAYS fan. But secondly, I just love Stephen Nichols. He's fab! Needless to say, he just gives a story to Kat. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Jason/Carly Date: 10 Apr 1998 09:50:17 -0400 I just have to comment on Jill's essay on Jason & Robin/Carly! Jill, you were right on the money....I can just see Carly throwing Michael in Jason's face! All I have to say is, what is w/the slicking back of Jason's hair....Hello, SONNY! Is that annoying anyone else or what? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: GH/PC: Ponderings... Date: 10 Apr 1998 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Hi all... For some reason yesterday's PC & GH had me shaking my head a lot, so now I'm going to try to remember which things bugged me and see if anyone else was bothered! :) One of the things that was bothering me I actually had explained to me last night...I thought Lark was in that same part of the hospital she was in before and that all of a sudden there was a room full of wigs in the Psych ward! But, apparently I missed a sign on the wall that said they were in the chemotherapy wing, thus making this oddity much more sensible! However, if they were in the chemo wing, why? Why were Scott & Eve in the chemo wing at all?? That's not where Frank is, it's not where the lab is, in fact with the interns on pediatric rotation and having no cancer patients, why would they even have this set right now??? Odd, no?? :) (I'm easily bothered...LOL!!) Let's see...on GH, if you had just been grazed by a bullet, doncha think you'd need more than a little itty-bitty bandaid?? Much less a Hot Pink bandaid??? What is she, 8 years old and needs a pretty boo-boo strip??? Yuck! Next...when Jason & Carly first walked into her mom's house, did anyone else notice someone had left a box on the couch??? I think this was a blooper! Jason immediately picked it up and started walking around with it and I really don't think it was supposed to be there. :) After all, if you had just left on a trip to go see your friend, would you KNOW you were going to have a stroke and die and that someone would need a box later to pack up your house??? Puh-leeze!! :) Ashley...can you say anorexic??? Yikes, I've eaten chickens with more meat on their bones!! LOL!! Why is that supposed to be attractive? If I want to see someone's bones, I'll go take a biology class!!! How cute is Jax when he's being sarcastic -- that smirk comes over his face...argh! He's not all that spectacular sometimes, but when he thinks he's pulling one over on Brenda, he's just adorable!! LOL! One last one...How did Alan, Mr. Big Bucks, know exactly where to find the cheesiest hotel around?? I would imagine it's in a part of Port Chuckles that he's never even been in before, and yet they had him go straight from one door to the other -- is this a kickback to when he used to cheat on Monica?? Was this odd, or was it just me?? LOL!! So, as you can see, it's the little things in life that keep me interested...hope I've at least amused someone out there... :) == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Ponderings Date: 10 Apr 1998 10:29:41 -0400 Geri wrote: One last one...How did Alan, Mr. Big Bucks, know exactly where to find the cheesiest hotel around?? I would imagine it's in a part of Port Chuckles that he's never even been in before, and yet they had him go straight from one door to the other -- is this a kickback to when he used to cheat on Monica?? I was wonderin' the same thing! I guess he thought he had to get as far away from the Q's as possible. And how scary was that hallucination w/him & Emily both taking drugs. That was evil!!!! hope I've at least amused someone out there... :) Yep, you did, Geri! Strange that we all notice those strange lil' things happenin'! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stephan Date: 11 Apr 1998 07:52:40 -0700 Jill wrote: >The only time I find him even >marginally interesting any more is when he's obsessing over Laura. I >don't want L&L to break up, but I even remember enjoying the chemistry >between Laura and Stefan. I don't. But, then again, by the time I started watching GH against after a one year absense, he was already consumed with Kat. Yick. So I haven't seen much with them in a year, because I have to fast-forward through them 99% of the time for the sake of my own sanity. It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly insipid character all on her own. They need to make her a villian again. I haven't been able to stomach her since she abandoned Damian for "the good side of the force." ;-) She may have been a total bitch when she was blackmailing Ned into marriage, but at least she was interesting. Taiyin "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 11 Apr 1998 07:59:57 -0700 Cagey wrote: > It was nice to see Jason come down on her so hard in the > limo, if only for that reason. It may be very catty of me, but this was my favorite scene in weeks! > But the situation itself should be > clarified between them. I don't kow about anyone else, but any man who runs out and gets me diamonds like other men get candy...I would be clarifying myself right under his skin for life! I loved that Jason did that, not for Carly's sake, but just his generousity and kindness. But what won't Carly think she can get next time? Also, that scene where Jason went to the hospital to see how Robin was, but TOLD Carly he would not see her for fear of letting someone see how important he was to her and use it against him. Doesn't Carly see that logically, the fact that he spends a lot of time with her, in public, means that he doesn't care too much what happens to her? It's possible he scared Merino as much as he could about Carly because she is the mother of Michael, but that antithesis should worry her. > What he *really* should start doing is > setting her up on dates with other guys . > How about Carly and Taggart?? I think they would make a perfect couple-- kind of like Gina and Keith on SB many years ago-- I loved them! Smarmy as they were. > I really like Jason with Michael! ;) > > --kg > I really really really really really like Jason with Michael. *sigh* Rebecca > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stefan and Laura Date: 11 Apr 1998 08:00:10 -0700 Jill wrote: > > I did love when Stefan went down to slice up the portrait of Laura, > though, and couldn't make himself do it. It reminded me of that book "Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde- where he keeps his portrait of his young self in the attic, which takes all of his sin, deceit, aging etc. while he persists in his youth. When he finally destroys the portrait, he himself is also destroyed. Hmm...any correlation? Perhaps that is why Stefan could not destroy the portrait-- he would destroy himself by destroying Laura, onto whom he has projected his passion, obsession, if we want to call it that. (I am going off of what I have heard, since I missed part of this story.) Nice intertexuality though-- I WARNED you about this noticing of things! ". Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason Date: 10 Apr 1998 12:16:57 EST5EDT > How about Carly and Taggart?? I like Taggert with Dara at the moment. How about Carly and Garcia?? I think that could prove to be interesting:):) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 10 Apr 1998 12:19:55 EST5EDT > 2) When Carly tells Robin that she (Carly) can give Jason what Robin can't > (babies, sex, you name it). I want Jason to overhear it-- because I can't think of anything Carly would do > (except taking Michael away) that would make him so angry, or so dangerous. ITA!! I also want Robin to lash back at Carly if this ever happens!! That would be crossing the line as far as "turning the other cheek" goes....even for Robin!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason Date: 10 Apr 1998 10:33:40 -0700 At 12:16 PM 4/10/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote: > >I like Taggert with Dara at the moment. How about Carly and Garcia?? > I think that could prove to be interesting:):) Can't you just see that? She wouldn't get many diamond necklaces on a cop's salary, though. ;-) OTOH, now that he's cut his hair, he is rather yummy again... Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Subject: Re: GH/PC: Stephan Date: 11 Apr 1998 13:12:14 -0700 On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Taiyin wrote: > So I haven't seen much with them in a year, because I have to fast-forward > through them 99% of the time for the sake of my own sanity. Kat and Stefan are better than ipecac-- barf, hurl, barf. > It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly > insipid character all on her own. They need to make her a villian again. > I haven't been able to stomach her since she abandoned Damian for "the good > side of the force." ;-) IMO, they've always had trouble making Kat an integrated, interesting character. Her relationship to Dominique got her in, but Dom wasn't from one of the major GH families, so then they tried to ally her with the Qs, and that was fun while it lasted... there hasn't been a storyline that has really meshed her with anyone. The closest I come to liking her is when she's with Robin-- I like that they're friends, even though Mac and Kat are over. :::shrug::: She was far better as Kayla. But Kayla was a far better character. Jill - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 11 Apr 1998 13:12:39 -0700 Rebecca wrote: > Also, that scene where Jason went to the > hospital to see how Robin was, but TOLD Carly he would not see her for > fear of letting someone see how important he was to her and use it > against him. Doesn't Carly see that logically, the fact that he spends > a lot of time with her, in public, means that he doesn't care too much > what happens to her? It's possible he scared Merino as much as he could > about Carly because she is the mother of Michael, but that antithesis > should worry her. This is a good point-- you've articulated what has kinda been in the back of my mind for a while. I think Jason's kept Michael because he loves him so much he doesn't see any choice in the matter. And the likelihood that Marino is going to hurt a BABY is probably pretty minimal... But Carly is fair game. And Jason doesn't feel about Carly how he feels about Robin. And that hasn't hit Carly-- though I don't know if she'd even care; Carly still thinks what she needs is "stuff" and "status," and hasn't realized (this is all IMO) that what she's really looking for is love. Jill - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Stephan (Katherine) Date: 10 Apr 1998 16:20:09 -0400 > It might not be so bad if I didn't find Katherine to be an annoyingly > insipid character all on her own. Ditto! I also agree that she is really good w/Robin, but she's even better w/Nikolas. She was far better as Kayla. But Kayla was a far better character. Like I said before, ITA, I'm a big Days fan & Patch & Kayla were perfect together. Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason (was Brenda & Jax) Date: 10 Apr 1998 19:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Rebecca wrote (providing the word for the day, "smarmy"): >How about Carly and Taggart?? I think they would make a perfect >couple-- kind of like Gina and Keith on SB many years ago-- I loved >them! Smarmy as they were. Ah, now *there* was a good couple. Hmmmm.... I can't think of a single scenario that could put Carly and Taggart in a relationship. Obviously I haven't had enough to drink . Carly and Mac? ;) Carly and Mr. Smarmy Jerry Jax? (who is that actor? how can he manage to portray quite so much smarminess in one shot?) Nope, I've got it. Carly and Reginald! On a completely unrelated note, but I certainly felt it deserved comment... Alan's hallucination was beautiful . And Damon Stuart is doing such a nice job with the whole thing. I'm glad they've finally moved forward with this story. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly & Jason Date: 10 Apr 1998 19:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Jill wrote: >And that hasn't hit Carly-- though I don't know if she'd >even care; Carly still thinks what she needs is "stuff" and "status," and >hasn't realized (this is all IMO) that what she's really looking for is >love. Two points...first, I think I agree with you--I'm not sure if she would care. Robin realized that her being in danger hurt Jason; I don't know, even if Jason really cared for Carly, that Carly would see it from that point of view. Second, I agree with you on the status part, but I'm not sure she really needs that much stuff. Tony wasn't dripping with money, but she really did love him (I think). But she certainly did want to be a doctor's wife as well. But I do think that Carly recognizes, at least minimally, that she's continually looking for love. She admitted as much in Florida this week, when she acknowledged that Virginia loved her as much as her fantasy mother ever could have. Of course, she also claimed that she'd stop looking for the fantasy. We know better. ;) On another totally unrelated note, when's Nancy Lee Grahn coming back? 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And then him saying he only lives a few minutes away & he sometimes cuts thru the park on his way home. He looked a bit startled as well. Like I said...My opinion only!!! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 10:00:24 -0700 At 08:15 AM 4/13/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: >Ok, now this isn't a spoiler, only my opinion, does anyone else think >that the teacher, can't remember his name, is the rapist? Wasn't it just >too convenient that he was in the park when Lucky & Liz was there? Yeah, and to tell you the truth, that really irritates me. I seriously hope it wasn't him. Aside from the fact that he was the absolute ONLY thing I liked about the whole PC High storyline, I think it's a cop out, frankly. I think that it's much more compelling a storyline if Liz doesn't know her attacker. Let them find him, sure, but I don't want it to be someone she knows. There are very different sets of emotional issues that have to be dealt with when the situation is acquantance rape versus some scumbag dragging an anonymous girl off a park bench. And I think that it's just far too contrived for them to make it be someone that she knew at this point. I think the anonymous version is much stronger with how this storyline has been set up and I really hope they continue to go that direction. I'm afraid they probably won't, though. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 13:29:02 -0400 >Ok, now this isn't a spoiler, only my opinion, does anyone else think >that the teacher, can't remember his name, is the rapist? >I seriously >hope it wasn't him. Please, someone, what's his name already!!!! > I think that it's much more compelling a storyline if Liz doesn't >know her attacker. Let them find him, sure, but I don't want it to be >someone she knows. Actually, I can't believe that they hadn't put into play who the rapist could be, long before this. It freaked me out big time on Friday when he came on thru. Didn't Lucky look a little concerned as well. Almost like his was going..Hmmm! >There are very different sets of emotional issues that have to be dealt >with when the situation is acquantance rape versus some scumbag dragging >an >anonymous girl off a park bench. ITA w/that, but just imagine the issues of it being your TEACHER!!! Yikes! I was lovin' their little embrace in the park....big time!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: 35th anniversary promo ? Date: 13 Apr 1998 10:40:46 PDT i have a question regarding one of the gh 35th anniversary promos. i just caught it fleetingly one day last week, so i don't know whether i saw what i thought i saw or not... it's the one that focuses on various couples over the years. it starts with steve and audrey, and then does still photos of various couples (luke and laura, felicia and frisco, etc.) with dates under the picture. i could SWEAR that the last photo in the promo was one of ned and lois, labeled 1998. did i dream that or what??? does anyone who remembers that promo remember seeing that, or know what it ACTUALLY was? or...if i DID see that...does that mean lois is coming BACK?!? (fingers crossed...) help me out here, guys...i think i'm losing my mind! julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: 35th anniversary promo ? Date: 13 Apr 1998 11:03:50 -0700 At 10:40 AM 4/13/98 PDT, Julie Saker wrote: >i could SWEAR that the last photo in the promo was one of ned and lois, >labeled 1998. did i dream that or what??? Actually, I think it said 1995. I can double-check my tape tonight, though. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 11:06:14 -0700 At 01:29 PM 4/13/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: >Please, someone, what's his name already!!!! Mr. Murdy. >Actually, I can't believe that they hadn't put into play who the rapist >could be, long before this. Well, Guza said from the beginning that the "whodunnit" aspect of this was the least important. I think if they make Mr. Murdy the rapist then they change that. >It freaked me out big time on Friday when he >came on thru. Didn't Lucky look a little concerned as well. Almost like >his was going..Hmmm! Yup. And that's why I didn't like it. >ITA w/that, but just imagine the issues of it being your TEACHER!!! >Yikes! No kidding. But, even beyond that, the way the attack happened, it's really unlikely that it was anyone she knows. It just feels really forced to go back now and try to rewrite it as someone she knows. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: 35th anniversary promo ? Date: 13 Apr 1998 13:11:53 -0500 At 11:03 AM 4/13/98 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >At 10:40 AM 4/13/98 PDT, Julie Saker wrote: >>i could SWEAR that the last photo in the promo was one of ned and lois, >>labeled 1998. did i dream that or what??? >Actually, I think it said 1995. I can double-check my tape tonight, though. But yes, it was Ned and Lois. On another "anniversary" note... Upon reflection, I am almost positive I saw some interviews in advertisements for the prime time show that didn't make it into the program itself. Presumably that was because of time limitations, but the real question is--am I simply losing my mind? In particular, I vaguely recall a segment with the actresses who play Robin and Anna.... --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 13:24:57 -0500 Taiyin wrote: >But, even beyond that, the way the attack happened, it's really unlikely >that it was anyone she knows. It just feels really forced to go back now >and try to rewrite it as someone she knows. You know, Taiyin, I'm really glad you said that. It's been bugging me since I read Danielle's post this morning. While I don't think it beyond the realm of possibility that her attacker *is* someone she knows, I'll be disappointed if it does turn out to be the teacher. First of all, I don't like the notion of the teacher being the obvious scapegoat--it's cliche and disturbing, and a cheap way of playing on parents' fears that anyone could take advantage of their child. Second, I think the notion that Liz may never find out the identity of her attacker is more true to life, and, to take the discussion back to the realm of soaps , has better dramatic potential. On the other hand, I'm willing to cut Guza some slack and hope that he's just playing on the fact that Liz is going to suspect *everybody* for a long time, until she manages to return to some semblance of a normal life. I really hope that's the way this development plays out. --kg ***** cagey@geocities.com * http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1263/ * No quote here. Move along. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re: 35th anniversary promo ? Date: 13 Apr 1998 12:13:24 PDT taiyin wrote: >Actually, I think it said 1995. I can double-check my tape tonight, though. well...that would make sense...and like i said, i only got a quick glimpse, and a five could look kind of like an eight if i looked fast enough. bummer--and i was hoping that was their sneaky way of telling us lois was coming back! oh well, at least i know i'm not losing my mind--just my vision! :) thanks, taiyin! (kind of odd, incidentally, that they would close the promo with a past couple, rather than a current one, don't you think? of course, we don't HAVE much in the way of wedded (or even un-wedded) bliss these days...) julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: 35th anniversary promo ? Date: 13 Apr 1998 12:26:51 -0700 At 12:13 PM 4/13/98 PDT, Julie Saker wrote: > >thanks, taiyin! (kind of odd, incidentally, that they would close the >promo with a past couple, rather than a current one, don't you think? of >course, we don't HAVE much in the way of wedded (or even un-wedded) >bliss these days...) They should have ended it with Kevin & Lucy. My own obvious bias aside, they are currently the only totally happy, serious, content, marriage-bound couple on either show. And they've certainly been around enough, and together long enough to warrant it. Geez, the only other couples I can even THINK of are Alan and Monica (who wouldn't be put in there with this year's date, anyway), Joe & Karen (who haven't been together long enough to be THAT serious), and Kat & Bat (and you all KNOW my feeling about them). So they should just ad K&L to the end of that promo -- after all, they are still technically on GH, too. Oops, I almost forgot, they don't DO promos of Kevin and Lucy. Bah. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Laura Date: 13 Apr 1998 15:32:28 -0400 S P O I L E R S P A C E Ok, just p/u the SOD and finally, thank the lord, they are telling us Genie should be heading back to GH. And this came from Tony Geary saying "the word is good"! Amen! Please don't let this be a teaser, especially since Maurice is only coming back for a few weeks. Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 15:45:53 -0400 Cagey wrote: >While I don't think it beyond >the realm of possibility that her attacker *is* someone she knows, I'll be >disappointed if it does turn out to be the teacher. First of all, I don't >like the notion of the teacher being the obvious scapegoat--it's cliche and >disturbing, and a cheap way of playing on parents' fears that anyone could >take advantage of their child. Wow, did I stir something up today. This is such a DEEP conversation going on, but everybody is on the same page. It's scary to think that this can happen w/a teacher, but the Soaps don't throw a character into a scene like that w/out a reason. >Second, I think the notion that Liz may >never find out the identity of her attacker is more true to life and, to >take the discussion back to the realm of soaps , has better dramatic >potential. Yeah, & this is Soaps! But I can see where finding out that the teacher (maybe) is the rapist could lead to so many more situations. Remember, that was the guy who cut her some slack about stealing the test. You could see how he could use that against her. And imagine Lucky finding out it was him. Geesh!!! I could see him go a lil' whacky...ala Luke! I - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: I love Regnald Date: 13 Apr 1998 12:48:44 -0700 "I've never crossed a picket line in my life. I'm not about to start now." I LOVED it when he showed up at the mansion with frozen TV dinners. And his comment about some some people thinking that the Q's couldn't survive without the staff was adorable -- not to mention right on the money. And his comments about his father being a Union man were very cool. I love Reg. I wish he were around more. The coffee maker part, though, was a bit much. That was one of those moments that I couldn't h*lp but cringe at. As I was watching that scene I kept thinking of Logan's comments about how he hates what's being done to the Q's and during that scene I couldn't argue. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: I love Reginald Date: 13 Apr 1998 15:56:28 -0400 Taiyan wrote: >I LOVED it when he showed up at the mansion with frozen TV dinners. And how 'bout when Edward asked 'what's for lunch' & good ol' Lila belts out...TV dinners, what else! I was cracking up! They do give her good lines! >The coffee maker part, though, was a bit much. Yep, agree w/that one! And AJ didn't know how to use it, huh? C'mon the boy's been drinking gallons of coffee at that apt. besides that really potent juice that Carly whips up! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re:Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 13:02:49 PDT taiyin wrote: >Well, Guza said from the beginning that the "whodunnit" aspect of this was >the least important. I think if they make Mr. Murdy the rapist then they >change that. i agree. which is why, even though i tend not to trust/believe guza very much, i'm thinking (hoping?) it WON'T be him. i agree that they're setting it up to LOOK that way...but i'm hoping (somewhat perversely, because i HATE these stupid storylines...but i'd hate them making it him even more) that this will be one of those oh-so-predictable mistaken-identity things. but then...i guess...that would also make guza a liar, because the whole false-arrest thing would make the whodunnit aspect more important too. >>ITA w/that, but just imagine the issues of it being your TEACHER!!! >>Yikes! > >No kidding. i really think that would be a BAD route to go. not that the whole teen-rape thing isn't bad enough...but making it her TEACHER?!? PLEASE let's not do that, guza...PLEASE? the poor girl might never recover... >It just feels really forced to go back now >and try to rewrite it as someone she knows. i agree with that, too... guess we'll have to wait and see though. julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 13:06:06 -0700 At 03:45 PM 4/13/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: > >Wow, did I stir something up today. I love it when someone does that. :-) >This is such a DEEP conversation >going on, but everybody is on the same page. It's scary to think that >this can happen w/a teacher, but the Soaps don't throw a character into >a scene like that w/out a reason. True. I'm hoping, though , that Cagey is right: they are trying to show that Lizzie is still so freaked out by the whole thing that she suspects just about everyone. I also agree with Cagey, that I think laying it on Murdy is a very cheap trick -- not to mention horribly cliched. >(maybe) is the rapist could lead to so many more situations. Remember, >that was the guy who cut her some slack about stealing the test. You >could see how he could use that against her. And that is what's nagging at me about this. And it's also the biggest reason that I hope they don't do it. They showed a really cool teacher, who related to his students, tried to h*lp them out, cut them some slack and didn't play the "heavy-handed parent" role with them. He was the kind of teacher that kids hope they get. I have a problem with them turning around and basically saying, "Oh, no, the only reason he was so nice and understanding to his students, especially Lizzie, is because he wanted to rape her." Pfft! I think that's a deplorable message on one level, and I think it's cheap, two-dimensional drama on another level. I think the whole thing would be so much more complex and interesting for the characters if Lizzie had to come to grips with the fact that she might never find the guy who did it, or if she could never understand why some stranger would grab her out of nowhere like that -- without knowing her. >And imagine Lucky finding >out it was him. Geesh!!! I could see him go a lil' whacky...ala Luke! I Well, I think that is pretty likely no matter WHO they end up pinning it on. Lucky will probably go postal no matter what. I also think that they brushed over something rather conveniently when Lucky and Liz were talking: they pointed out that 80% of all rape victims who come forward know their attackers. What they neglected to point out is that most of that 80% are "date rape" scenarios, and the remainder are generally people like caretakers or building maintenance crew members who are obsessed with someone they see all the time. And part of the reason that those women come forward is BECAUSE they recognize their attacker. Now, aside from the fact that, technically, Mr. Murdy could qualify under the "obsessed" category... that's just so contrived. Especially since Mr. Murdy was about the only adult that Lizzie actually liked. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 13 Apr 1998 16:41:54 -0400 tayin wrote: >Now, aside from the fact that, technically, Mr. Murdy could qualify under >the "obsessed" category... that's just so contrived. Especially since Mr. >Murdy was about the only adult that Lizzie actually liked. That's where I think it all lies. That's where the drama would really be. Tayin, you hit on a lot of stuff about this today. Kinda makes you wonder 'bout people. There's gotta be a time when Lizzie just flips out. Funny about Lucky going postal (great word). I can see him in jail for that one! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Kirby Subject: Re: GH/PC: I love Regnald Date: 13 Apr 1998 18:19:29 -0500 (CDT) At 12:48 PM 4/13/98 -0700, Taiyin wrote: >The coffee maker part, though, was a bit much. That was one of those >moments that I couldn't h*lp but cringe at. As I was watching that scene I >kept thinking of Logan's comments about how he hates what's being done to >the Q's and during that scene I couldn't argue. It was ludicrous. Monica and Alan are both doctors, and trust me-- ANY doctor knows how to make coffee. It's how they SURVIVE. Jill Jill Kirby ~~ jtkirby@mcs.com ~~ www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/4107 NatPack ~~ ABotCoS ~~ NP4 ~~ Dreamer/Minstrel ~~ FUB ~~ CW "You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a smart woman with a dumb guy." --- Erica Jong It's called flooding. The kinder, gentler approach is systematic desensitization, but that's just not our style. --sah - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: I love Regnald Date: 13 Apr 1998 16:31:56 -0700 At 06:19 PM 4/13/98 -0500, Jill Kirby wrote: > >It was ludicrous. Monica and Alan are both doctors, and trust me-- ANY >doctor knows how to make coffee. It's how they SURVIVE. Unless you're Alan and you come up with 101 Ways to Sneak, Con & Steal Prescription Drugs. For most other docs, though, you're absolutely right. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Traci Dyann Haley" Subject: GH/PC: Bennett Devlin (spoiler/spec) Date: 14 Apr 1998 00:45:28 -0700 G E R O N I M O | | | | | | | | | V Just read in SOD that Edward Albert is leaving PC and that Devlin's exit will be very "shocking"...so what do y'all think it'll be: A) Arrested for stealing credit for Karen, Jake, and Joe's experiments (or maybe in connection with Eve's case)? And let's not forget testing drugs on Frank, after all, Lark DID see him do it. or.... B) Murdered...after all, there have been a few hints dropped, like Scott's threat today (Monday). Perhaps he's murdered and Scott is the suspect...but who'll it REALLY be...Lark? Joe? Julie (maybe she finds out what he did to Frank)? I mean, the only other thing I can come up with that would be shocking is if Devlin came out of the closet, decided to become a transvestite and went on the run with Lark and her ratty wig. LOL! But seriously, I'm going to miss Edward Albert...what a babe!! Guess I better get that fan letter sent off to him soon... Beam me up, Scotty, Traci ICQ #1394469 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Bistro/3266 Ask me about my AQHA Palomino Stallion for sale! I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Alan & Taggart Date: 14 Apr 1998 08:27:06 -0400 Oh, lord was I shocked to see Taggart show up in Alan's motel room! This was really a shocker, since they've been building this story for so long. I'm so glad they're finally giving Taggart some air time, he's so cool. And can you imagine when he "bumps" into Sonny someday soon. Phew, can't wait for the fireworks. Also, I loved the fact Jason gave ol' Carly the brush off. Thank the lord! But I cannot fathom Nikolas & Robin being together...at all. He just annoys me in any romantic situation, after the time w/Sarah at the Cassadine summer house. Eek! I did think the scene w/Brenda, Nikolas & Robin was funny though. I must also admit, yet again I was shocked that Jax took part in the assassination plot. Does anyone like this Jerry fella...at all? He gives me the willies! I'm sure he's gonna come between Jax & Brenda, but...!!! And this fella is an english actor, but he has a much heavier Australian accent that I can hardly make out what he's saying. Is this another Mac accent, that hopefully will disappear in months??? Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Alan & Taggart Date: 14 Apr 1998 11:29:34 EST5EDT > Also, I loved the fact Jason gave ol' Carly the brush off. I thought that was handled very well on both Jason's and Carly's part. They both made an effort to talk about the situation and straighten things out. I was impressed:) >But I cannot fathom Nikolas & Robin being together...at all. I don't really for it either, it reminds me to much of Nik mooning after Kat. At least with Sarah the feelings were returned and he didn't look like an infatuated school boy. > Does anyone like this Jerry fella...at all? He gives > me the willies! I'm sure he's gonna come between Jax & Brenda, I am still trying to talk myself into giving him a chance. But I couldn't help being amused during the fighting scenes yesterday. Also, I could not believe that Jax told Jerry to stop him if it looked like he was starting to fall for Brenda. I almost started throwing things at the TV...not because I am a devout J&B fan (i am still undecided) but because Jax is just asking for trouble. I really don't want to see Jerry trying to charm Brenda either. What do ya'll think?? gina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Jerry & Jax (formerly Alan & Taggart) Date: 14 Apr 1998 13:48:54 -0400 > Also, I loved the fact Jason gave ol' Carly the brush off. > I thought that was handled very well on both Jason's and Carly's >part. They both made an effort to talk about the situation and >straighten things out. I was impressed:) I was more SHOCKED then impressed! It's just a matter of time til she tries it one more time! > Does anyone like this Jerry fella...at all? . But I >couldn't help being amused during the fighting scenes yesterday. >Also, I could not believe that Jax told Jerry to stop him if it >looked like he was starting to fall for Brenda. I was amused by the fight scenes as well. At least I didn't have to strain to understand what the hell is was saying. He really looks like a seedy character, though. And what GUY would ever come out right & tell your brother to stop you from going w/a chick??? None that I know! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: The Q's, Lucky & Helena Date: 15 Apr 1998 10:25:20 -0400 How funny was the scene when Edward put the TV dinner in the microwave? Ka-boom....well, that one's done. It looked like Leslie was trying not to crack up. And what's the deal w/everyone in that house, no one notices Alan whacked out. He looks like Frankenstein walking around. And Monica's a doctor, too. Well, shouldn't be surprised, they didn't notice Emily was flying until she really tried to "fly". Also, what do y'all think Lucky's really up to w/Helena? There's something just not right there. And do you think Helena knows the "bug" is planted under the table. She's a wee bit too clever & after all, Luke was in her bed. Hmm, just wondrin' Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Ned & V Date: 16 Apr 1998 08:38:20 -0400 ok, is anybody out there. Didn't hear a peep from y'all yesterday! Anyway, I must admit that I liked that little "dinner" w/Ned & V? Hmm, does Alexis have competition. Also, let's have a show of hands, who believes that Jerry's gonna be setup w/Bobbi. Did ya ever notice that when new characters come on, the 1st few people they come in contact w/they're usually hooked up not too long down the road. The initial reaction to Jerry, yuck, didn't like him at all, but after yesterday, he was quite amusing, especially w/Brenda...Oh, please, don't mess w/Brenda & Jax (yeah, right!) Anyway, Jerry reminds me of why I like Jax when he 1st came on. Jerry's exactly how Jax was! Finally, I think we're going to see the other side of Jax, & hopefully bring back the romantic side! Can't wait! I can't believe how Tony Geary is throwing out these stellar performances! How bout when he opened the pix of Helena! Momma Mia...Mother of Pearl! I was cracking up, now I know why I love him! (by the way, when I met him a few years back, I was literally...STAR STRUCK! Now I remember why!!!) And don'tcha all think it's a matter of time til Laura comes back!!!! I'm keeping the fingers crossed! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg D." Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bennett Devlin (spoiler/spec) Date: 16 Apr 1998 06:15:41 -0700 (PDT) ---Traci Dyann Haley wrote: > > G > E > R > O > N > I > M > O > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > How will Bennett Devlin leave the show? > > A) Arrested for stealing credit for Karen, Jake, and Joe's experiments > or.... > > B) Murdered...after all, there have been a few hints dropped, like Scott's > threat today (Monday). Perhaps he's murdered and Scott is the suspect...but > who'll it REALLY be...Lark? Joe? Julie (maybe she finds out what he did to > Frank)? I think definately B except I wonder if it will be Frank who kills him. He could get off murder rap because of the aggression and violent tendancies the serum causes. Oh and remember Bennett told Chris that one of the lab rats had killed his cage partner! Of course the interns will come up with a formula to counteract the aggressive nature of the serum Bennett used. Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: Spoiler Site Date: 16 Apr 1998 10:24:02 EST5EDT The BEST spoiler site is www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/3371/ghspoilers.html It is updated with next week's spoilers!! ENJOY!! gina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 10:29:18 -0500 Oh, ick! S P O I L E R S P A C E I S Good for retching. I admit I fast forward through all of Kat and Bat's scenes, so it's entirely possible that they've already discussed this. But...Katherine and Stefan are planning a wedding? Yuck. That was *not* the wedding I hoped to see during sweeps. Grrrrrr. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 09:14:37 -0700 At 10:29 AM 4/16/98 -0500, Cagey wrote: > >Oh, ick! > >S >P >O >I >L >E >R >S >P >A >C >E >I >S >Good for retching. > >I admit I fast forward through all of Kat and Bat's scenes, so it's >entirely possible that they've already discussed this. But...Katherine and >Stefan are planning a wedding? Yuck. That was *not* the wedding I hoped >to see during sweeps. Eeeeewwwwww! Yuck. Four years. Over four years. FOUR. That is how long Kevin & Lucy fans have been waiting. Four WHOLE ENTIRE years. And Kat & Bat get it in a year. Hmph. And people wonder why I don't trust/can't stand TPTB. Grump. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 11:24:44 -0500 Taiyin wrote: >>S >>P >>O >>I >>L >>E >>R >>S >>P >>A >>C >>E >>I >>S >>Good for retching. >> > >And Kat & Bat get it in a year. On the positive (well, for me, at any rate. It's obvious I'm not speaking for those people who like Katherine and Stefan together) side, I wonder whether the wedding will go through. Wouldn't the week of Stefan's marriage to Katherine be the perfect time for Laura to return to PC? --kg ***** cagey@geocities.com * http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1763/ * "Alexis, I thought we were having dinner." "I didn't agree." "It was an oversight. I forgive you." --Ned and Alexis - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 09:42:21 -0700 At 11:24 AM 4/16/98 -0500, Cagey wrote: > >>>S >>>P >>>O >>>I >>>L >>>E >>>R >>>S >>>P >>>A >>>C >>>E >>>I >>>S >On the positive (well, for me, at any rate. It's obvious I'm not speaking >for those people who like Katherine and Stefan together) side, I wonder >whether the wedding will go through. Wouldn't the week of Stefan's >marriage to Katherine be the perfect time for Laura to return to PC? Too true. What a delightful thought, actually. I can just picture all of Port Charles gathered at the wedding, and just as Stefan is about to say "I do" the rusting of the guests gets his attention and he turns to see Laura arrive with Lulu in her arms -- leaving Stefan dumb-struck and totally incapable of continuing with the ceremony. Any variation on that scenario would be perfectly acceptable, too, of course. Naturally, there would have to be some more dramatic reason surface for Stephan to use as an excuse, since he's not going to admit that he loves Laura instead of Katherine. I can hope, anyway. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jill Kirby Subject: Re: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 15:22:47 -0700 On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Cagey wrote: > > Taiyin wrote: > > >>S > >>P > >>O > >>I > >>L > >>E > >>R > >>S > >>P > >>A > >>C > >>E > >>I > >>S > >>Good for retching. > >> > > > >And Kat & Bat get it in a year. > > On the positive (well, for me, at any rate. It's obvious I'm not speaking > for those people who like Katherine and Stefan together) side, I wonder > whether the wedding will go through. Wouldn't the week of Stefan's > marriage to Katherine be the perfect time for Laura to return to PC? Oh, ew. Ick. Ptui. Ack. Gag. Barf. Hurl. Ralph. If I can't even stand to watch them standing in the same room together, how in the name of Elvis am I going to be able to bear a wedding? And-- as much as I long for Laura to return-- I'd really rather she didn't return at the behest of Stefan or Nik. Let the woman return under her own steam, please. Grrrr. I feel sick. Mebbe I don't want to eat my lunch. Nah. Stefan and Kat aren't worth missing good Chinese food for. ;) Jill FGC Kevin FGC Stefan, because at one time I could actually watch him and enjoy it... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: May Sweeps Spoilers Date: 16 Apr 1998 15:31:17 -0700 At 03:22 PM 4/16/98 -0700, Jill Kirby wrote: >FGC Stefan, because at one time I could actually watch him and enjoy it... This is the part I find unfathomable. I know, I know, you and a TON of other people have all told me how magnificent he was in the pre-Katherine days, but since that was during my GH-hiatus, I never saw any of it and I can't even begin to imagine it. The first thing I saw from him was when he shot Kat. He aimed too low. The only Laura-obsessing I've seen at all is very recently, and it hasn't been enough to do much more than pique my interest. It gets me to stop fast-forwarding for a few minutes, at least. Until Kat comes in the room, anyway. Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: GH/PC: Request for fanfic reader.... Date: 18 Apr 1998 06:54:55 -0700 Hi all- I wrote a really short fanfic, my first ever wahoo! What I am wondering is if someone would be willing to read it and tell me if they hate it or like it or I should burn my computer disk etc. :) Or maybe even do someone really radical like post it to the list :) In any case, if anyone would be willing, please e-mail me and I will send it to you. Like I said it's real short, only a page and half ss, but it's something I have been thinking about all week. Thanks! Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: GH/PC: Request for fanfic reader.... Date: 17 Apr 1998 19:13:03 -0700 Hi, I would love to read it! Send it my way baby! karen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Spoiler Site Date: 17 Apr 1998 17:39:03 -0700 What do you click on once you get into geocities? Couldn't find ghspoilers. Thanks ---------- > From: Gina Clayton > To: port-charles@xmission.com > Subject: GH/PC: Spoiler Site > Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 3:24 AM > > The BEST spoiler site is > www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/3371/ghspoilers.html > > It is updated with next week's spoilers!! > ENJOY!! > > gina > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnneBPT Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky & Liz Date: 18 Apr 1998 22:27:50 EDT In a message dated 98-04-13 14:07:29 EDT, you write: << But, even beyond that, the way the attack happened, it's really unlikely that it was anyone she knows. It just feels really forced to go back now and try to rewrite it as someone she knows. Taiyin >> It seems like I am not on the same page with this as everyone else. I guess we will have to wait and see who the culprit ends up being, but I, for one, have had Mr. Murty as the number one suspect the entire time. If they do make it him, it just seems like another predictable turn for me. It was unthinkable to me from the start that they would make it be Tony, no matter what else they do to his character, I can't see them making him a rapist of a teenager-- Audrey's grandchild, no less. I never thought too much in depth aboutthe implications of having the teacher be the rapist. I guess that is a scary concept. Mr. Murty has always been a peripheral character. We know him as the teacher, the "cool one," but we never knew him well. He is also expendable, there is not much of an emotional investment in him. If you run through the characters on the show, there really isn't anyone else, UNLESS they made it someone she didn't know. I guess maybe one of Jason's bodyguards, someone like that, but Mr. Murty was already connected with the kids' story. I think they will want to give the story some closure, and have the rapist caught. It would seem to me as much of a gyp to have it be some stranger we've never seen, as it was to make Dorman's killer that Tin Man guy. How can you figure out a mystery on a show when they throw in the guilty party at the end? I noticed a few days after the rape when Liz was in Kelly's with Lucky, Mr. Murty was there. He kind of smiled at her. She was freaked out in general at being out among people. Later she said something to Lucky about "what if the guy who did this was right there in Kelly's" and "he could be anyone-- even someone I know." So I don't think this is a hasty rewrite, or change of plan. I think they meant it to be the teacher all along. Anne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnneBPT Subject: Re: GH/PC: I love Regnald Date: 18 Apr 1998 22:29:48 EDT In a message dated 98-04-13 15:49:57 EDT, you write: << I've never crossed a picket line in my life. I'm not about to start now." I LOVED it when he showed up at the mansion with frozen TV dinners. And his comment about some some people thinking that the Q's couldn't survive without the staff was adorable -- not to mention right on the money.>> I have always adored Reggie myself, and loved seeing him in his everyday clothes, going out to join the picketers. I also love the relationship between Reginald and Lila. I liked to see her sticking up for him, and so proud of his position with the strikers, even though it was throwing her house into chaos. >>The coffee maker part, though, was a bit much. That was one of those moments that I couldn't h*lp but cringe at. As I was watching that scene I kept thinking of Logan's comments about how he hates what's being done to the Q's and during that scene I couldn't argue.<< Yeah that was horrible. We've been getting more of the same all week. While some of it is funny, he's made the Q's into a pack of bumbling idiots. He is really tearing them to shreds. I find it hard to believe that Monica, AJ, or any of them just haven't a clue about the coffee pot, the toaster, a microwave. It's a wonder Guza's version of the Q's are able to dress themselves. I think it would have been more fun to get a replacement staff of scabs and see how the Q's deal with them. Maybe a different butler everytime we see them, as they drive them all away. Or a sweet cook who will cater to their every whim-- but drive them crazy with too much sweetness, and have them begging for Cook back. How about a few scenes of Reggie slipping in to see how Lila is making out. That would be better, but it is difficult to imagine that the Q's could not find a way to to keep the strikers at bay, keep garbage from being dumped on the lawn, and to get some kind of help in the house. Barring that, at least a few of them ought to have enough sense working basic appliances. Anne Taiyin "How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated 'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy - >> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Out of town Date: 21 Apr 1998 17:59:45 -0700 I just wanted to let you all know that I am heading out of town until Friday, so if you try to reach me, I am not ignoring you and any requests sent to the listowner's account will not be read until I get back. In the meantime, though, Cagey will still be around, so behave yourselves. Have a good week! Taiyin "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: update plea Date: 21 Apr 1998 06:30:02 PDT hi all... i got home last night only to discover that my *@#$@*%$#@ landlord had turned off the power during the course of the day, for some unknown reason...so, of course, my vcr was blinking 12:00, and subsequently did not record either pc or gh yesterday (monday). is there anybody out there who saw them, and who would be kind enough to post a fairly comprehensive update as to what i missed? thanks a million! :) julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: WOO-HOO!!! HAPPY SPOILER!!!!! Date: 21 Apr 1998 10:04:55 PDT big, big, HUGE spoiler, straight from the keyboard of abc-joanne (www.abc.com)! l o o k o u t b e l o w TUESDAY, April 21 Wonderful, wonderful news!....... Genie Francis is returning to GENERAL HOSPITAL to resume the role of Laura Spencer. Her first airdate will be Wednesday, May 20. Laura's return to Port Charles will occur after a surprise visit from Nikolas (Tyler Christopher). Many more surprises are in store when Laura arrives at Wyndemere on the night of Stefan (Stephen Nichols) and Katherine's (Mary Beth Evans) engagement ball. I can't wait to see what happens. While I know the story -- I'm so looking forward to seeing Genie act it out! Hey Genie -- we're glad you're back where you belong! Now, on to May sweeps highlights for PORT CHARLES and ALL MY CHILDREN. Tomorrow, I'll give you the sweeps highlights for ONE LIFE TO LIVE and GENERAL HOSPITAL. Everything may look the same, but looks are deceiving. It's an entire month of mystery on "ABC MAYTIME." Art imitates life in Port Charles when the fiction of "General Homicide" becomes a real unsolved mystery. Expect the unexpected as residents of Pine Valley go back to the future and unveil secrets of the past that will jeopardize everyone's present. On PC the word "fiction" takes on a whole new meaning. Kevin (Jon Lindstrom) had no idea that his tall tale, known as "General Homicide," would not only reveal secrets from his own past, but would also put the entire town in danger as a serial killer targets the people Kevin fictionalized in his book. While the murder mystery has everyone watching their backs, Chris (Nolan North) is finally exposed for who he really is -- but again, looks are deceiving. As Scott (Kin Shriner) and Eve (Julie Pinson) finally give in to absolute pleasure, their new romance is already being driven apart by suspicion, as fingers point to Eve and no alibi is in sight. The always dubious Lucy (Lynn Herring) not only believes that Eve is behind the murder, but tries to prove that Eve's secret past will help free Kevin from any possible blame. Frank (Jay Pickett) careens out of control, and Julie's (Lisa Ann Hadley) world comes crashing down around her as she struggles to understand what has happened to the man she loves. Matt (Mitch Longley) and Ellen (Debbi Morgan) hit a critical juncture in their relationship, as Matt is forced to make a choice between the two women in his life. Finally, an unknown woman and her child arrive in town and manage to threaten Karen (Jennifer Hammon) and Joe's (Michael Dietz) relationship. But, why? On AMC it's "Mystery Science Theater," Pine Valley style. "Murder, mayhem and matrimony" unfold as Tad (Michael E. Knight), Adam (David Canary), Camille (Schuyler Grant) and Jack (Walt Willey) travel to none other than Pigeon Hollow on a fact-finding mission to do a little "digging" into the past. What they uncover about the death of Camille's mother will shock viewers. While Jack is off playing good cop, Mike Roy (Nick Surovy) is definitely playing bad cop where Erica (Susan Lucci) is concerned. Some things never change: The sparks between Erica and Mike ignite again! Will she give in to old desires, or will she be loyal to her good cop, Jackson? This is Erica Kane, after all. Mateo (Mark Consuelos) continues to "flash forward" and it becomes increasingly more evident that he must make changes to his and Hayley's (Kelly Ripa) life to avoid the peril he keeps seeing ahead of them. After a suspicious elevator crash, Stuart (David Canary) lies injured in Pine Valley Hospital and a devoted Marian (Jennifer Bassey) nurses him back to health. Interestingly, all fingers point to Camille as the prime suspect in this mysterious malfunction. Sparks fly as Belinda (Amelia Marshall) and Keith (Norm Lewis) go head-to-head when Brooke (Julia Barr) goes on trial for murder. Belinda and Trevor (James Kiberd) team up to defend. Finally, here comes that bride, Janet (Robin Mattson), with her groom in question, Axel (Nick Sullivan). Will they say their I do's? Now, here's a sneak peek at Wednesday's shows. On PC, Scott makes a startling discovery in the hospital lab! At AMC, Mateo realizes he has "seen" virtually everything Brooke describes to him. Over at OLTL, Georgie gives Todd and Viki copies of the photo she made. And on GH, what is Jerry Jacks up to now? Well, that's all for now. See you tomorrow, ABCJoanne me again. sonny AND laura--all in the space of one week?!? as taiyin would say... !!!!! now we can REALLY get this storyline underway... julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Woo Woo Happy Spoiler Date: 21 Apr 1998 13:21:43 -0400 at 1:04 Julie wrote: big, big, HUGE spoiler, straight from the keyboard of abc-joanne (www.abc.com)! l o o k o u t b e l o w TUESDAY, April 21 Wonderful, wonderful news!....... Genie Francis is returning to GENERAL HOSPITAL to resume the role of Laura Spencer. Her first airdate will be Wednesday, May 20 FINALLY, FINALLY FINALLY! It really sounded like she "had" to come back w/all the build ups going on between her "families". And also like Julie said, I'm doing the happy dance as well! Yes, yes, yes!!!! Let the fireworks begin!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: MAJOR SPOILER!! Date: 21 Apr 1998 13:29:00 EST5EDT Here is a major (wonderful) spoiler from abc.com. After that are some May sweeps updates about Port Charles. enjoy!! gina h e r e g o e s n o t h i n g Genie Francis is returning to GH to resume the role of Laura Spencer. Her first air date is May 20th. Laura's return to PC will occur after a surprise visit from Nikolas. Many more surprises are in store when Laura arrives at Wyndemere on the night of Stefan and Kat's engagement ball. Now May sweeps on PC : The word "fiction" takes on a whole new meaning. Kevin had no idea that his tall tale, "General Homicide" would not only reveal secrets from his past, but would put the town in danger as a serial killer targets the people Kevin fictionalized in his book. While the murder mystery has everyone watching their backs, Chris is finally exposed for who he really is, but looks are deceiving. As Scott and Eve finally give into absolute pleasure, their new romance is already being driven apart by suspicion, as fingers point to Eve and no alibi is in site. Lucy not only believes that Eve is behind the murder, but tries to prove that Eve's secret past will help free Kevin form any blame. Frank careens out of control, and Julie's world comes crashing down around here as she tries to struggle to understand what has happened to the man she loves. Matt and Ellen hit a critical juncture in their relationship, as Matt is forced to make a choice between the two women in his life. finally, an unknown woman and her child come to town and manange to threaten Karen and Joe's relationship, but why?? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: GH/PC: ABC Commerials! Date: 21 Apr 1998 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Hi all... Has anyone else been screaming at their tv sets lately??? The commercial for GH with Tony's verdict and the consequences of it? (I'm assuming that's not a spoiler 'cause I'm not saying what the commercial showed!) Why is ABC putting such big spoilers in their commercials?? It makes it so aggravating -- it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop for days on end! They can build suspense without spoiling the storyline, can't they?? Even TV Guide last week had a major spoiler for a different ABC soap. I don't understand this stuff! On another topic, what does everyone think the Frank storyline on PC??? Personally, I'm not enjoying it, though the acting is top-rate. Frank looks like a whole different person somehow since they changed his personality. I realize they have to make Devlin evil for the next steps to occur, but I really liked Frank better before! Just my well-taxed two cents... == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: WOO-HOO!!! HAPPY SPOILER!!!!! Date: 21 Apr 1998 17:45:38 -0700 (PDT) At 10:04 AM 4/21/1998 PDT, you wrote: >big, big, HUGE spoiler, straight from the keyboard of abc-joanne >(www.abc.com)! > >l >o >o >k > >o >u >t > >b >e >l >o >w > >Many more surprises >are in store when Laura arrives at Wyndemere on >the night of Stefan (Stephen Nichols) and >Katherine's (Mary Beth Evans) engagement ball. That's even better than waiting until the wedding. Though it would serve Katherine right to be stood up at the altar . >Finally, an unknown woman and her child arrive in town >and manage to threaten Karen and Joe's relationship. >But, why? Because she and Karen had an affair, and the child is Karen's love baby! >And on GH, what is Jerry Jacks up to now? Smirking, no doubt. --kg who lost her good Ned and Alexis quotation. The one that went something like "Your eyes should come with a warning label." Anybody got it? ;) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: ABC Commerials! Date: 21 Apr 1998 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Geri wrote: >Has anyone else been screaming at their tv sets lately??? Constantly. But I'm sure you meant in relation to the commercials . >(I'm assuming that's not a spoiler 'cause I'm not saying what the >commercial showed!) You are a canny one ;) I think that, given Robin's testimony and the fact that Brad M. is still on contract, the verdict wasn't really in doubt. But in principle, I thoroughly agree. For example, I would have preferred to see the spoiler that they revealed about Carly as it happened. My biggest complaint, however, lies with Alexis. Why, oh why, oh why didn't she just tell Ned that Helena had threatened her life and she felt compelled to defend Tony. Yes, I realize then we wouldn't get to see Ned thundering and brooding quite so much, but it would have been the logical thing to do. Grrrrrrrrr. >Frank looks like a whole different person somehow since they changed >his personality. I'm blanking on the name of the actor who plays Frank, but he manages to project such intensity.... He'd make a *wonderful* villain. I don't think Frank would, however. Maybe Frank has a twin that nobody knows about. In fact, maybe Frank's twin could turn up in Kevin's mirror as a change of pace, and thereby spare Jon from having to shave. I'm not saying that I advocate the latter, but since Taiyin's not here, I won't have to listen to her taunt me about slippage on the beard/no beard issue ;) --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: Re: GH/PC: ABC Commerials! Date: 21 Apr 1998 18:47:16 -0700 (PDT) ---Cagey wrote: > For example, > I would have preferred to see the spoiler that they > revealed about Carly as it happened. > > > Right!! That was infuriating!!!! %^} > My biggest complaint, however, lies with Alexis. Why, oh > why, oh why didn't she just tell Ned that Helena had > threatened her life and she felt compelled to defend Tony. > Grrrrrrrrr. Yep -- it's not like she didn't have the opportunity -- he was lying in her bed, for goodness sake's!!! LOL! I really like the two of them together, but let's get real -- honesty is still important, ain't it??? :) Of course, if Rena Sofer were to decide to come back, I'd be THRILLED with this storyline!! > I'm blanking on the name of the actor who plays Frank, but > he manages to project such intensity.... He'd make a > *wonderful* villain. I don't think Frank would, however. > Maybe Frank has a twin that nobody knows about. In fact, > maybe Frank's twin could turn up in Kevin's mirror as a > change of pace, and thereby spare Jon from having to shave. > ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! I loved it when Ryan said, "Sure you're normal. Oh yeah, everyone has conversations with their dead brother!" or something to that effect. BTW, not only is Jon Lindstrom/Kevin/Ryan absolutely yummy-licious, but his character has such good taste -- good music yesterday and that frosted glass bottle with the squiggly lines on it is gorgeous -- whoever goes on the next set visit, wouldja' swipe that for me??? LOL!! == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike and Leslie Langley" Subject: GH/PC: OT:GH Tapes Date: 21 Apr 1998 22:25:30 -0500 Hey Everyone, I would like to buy tapes of all the gh episodes. From the first show to the last show of 1997. I was wondering if anyone knows where or who I can buy them from. Thanks. Leslie Langley - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: GH/PC: Random thoughts Date: 22 Apr 1998 00:17:15 -0600 Hi all- Did anyone else catch Carly's little tummy rub today while she was at the hearing? Of course it was a Sarah Brown tummy rub, but it made me laugh nevertheless. It was just when Tony is put on the stand-- the camera cuts back to her and she must not have been aware of it. More important random thnoughts :) I loved the scene with Jason (what can I say? Any scene with Jason and I revert back to Jr. high adolescent crushes) talking about Michael and his family's reaction to his comments and his love for Michael-- also, Jason's comment about the 5th amendment "My favorite one" was classic. When I heard that Jason really got on Carly's case about what she said to Robin, I was hoping it was a la the car scene after she called the strike. Of course, I was surprised that it was very controlled anger, but I have to admit it was pretty effective and believable. Jason isn't an out of control guy, so to play that would have shown a man who can't handle those kinds of things. I must say I really like the way that Steve Burton is playing this character-- and who was it who wondered how long it would be before Carly held Michael over his head? We didn't have to wait for long! I have also been trying to guess what Helena wants with Tony-- does anyone have any theories? I can't come up with a one... Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: ABC COMMERICALS/Brenda/Sonny Date: 22 Apr 1998 08:29:45 -0400 Why is ABC putting such big spoilers in their commercials?? Probably because even though we all think they are spoilers, they are stepping stones to the next "part" of the storyline which will be so much bigger. by the way, is anyone thinking that the Jax family is somehow connected to Sonny coming back? Especially when Lady Jane said to Brenda, "what if" Sonny came back, who would you choose??? Hmmm? Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: GH sweeps SPOILERS Date: 22 Apr 1998 10:02:38 PDT oh boy oh boy oh boy...and i thought YESTERDAY'S news was good?!? some things i've been waiting for for a VERY long time are coming VERY soon!!! from abc-joanne... m a y s w e e p s s t u f f WEDNESDAY, April 22 Today we have....... sweeps info for all of you GENERAL HOSPITAL fans! On GH, it's "confrontations, collisions and celebrations." One plane crash plus two people at odds equals many people's despair. As Brenda (Vanessa Marcil) and Jason's (Steve Burton) ELQ flight disappears without the ability to radar anyone in Port Charles for help, they come to terms with one another. In the meantime, Jax (Ingo Rademacher) realizes how much he loves Brenda and sets out on a mission to find her before it's too late. Robin (Kimberly McCullough) also admits to herself that she still loves Jason, hoping and praying he's still alive. Stefan (Stephen Nichols) and Katherine (Mary Beth Evans) decide to celebrate their engagement by throwing a Bacchanalia Ball. As guests arrive in masks and costumes, an unlikely union is formed between Luke (Anthony Geary) and Alexis (Nancy Lee Grahn), which leads to a tragic event that will shock everyone. What masquerade would be complete without a little romance? Elizabeth (Rebecca Herbst) and Lucky (Jonathan Jackson) not only crash the party but find a moment to trip the light fantastic. Mac (John J. York) and Felicia (Kristina Wagner) struggle over how to tell everyone that they're not really engaged, since everyone but Mac and Felicia can see why they're perfect for one another. Bobbie (Jacklyn Zeman) continues to surprise everyone, including herself, as she becomes closer to Carly (Sarah Brown) and vows to stop the Quartermaines from using Jason's disappearance to claim baby Michael. And finally, Alan's (Stuart Damon) drug addiction is no longer his best-kept secret. Now, here's a sneak peek at Thursday's shows. On PORT CHARLES, is Kevin's book actually coming to life? At AMC, Erica wants to hire Axel to portray her stalker. Over at OLTL, Nora thinks she sees Bo and Georgie in a clinch. And on GH, Helena privately vows revenge on Katherine. Well, that's it for now. See you tomorrow, ABCJoanne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: GH May Sweeps Date: 22 Apr 1998 13:15:38 EST5EDT These are from abc-joanne... G O O D S T U F F It's "confrontations, collisions and celebrations." One plane crash plus two people at odds equals many people's despair. As Brenda and Jason's ELQ fight disappears without the ability to radar anyone in PC for help, they come to terms with one another. In the meantime Jax realizes how much he loves Brenda and sets out on a mission to find her before it is too late. Robin also admits to herself that she still loves Jason, hoping and praying he's still alive. Stefan and Kat decide to celebtare their engagement by throwing a Bacchanalia Ball. As guests arrive in masks and costumes, an unlikely union is formed between Luke and Alexis which leads to a tragic event that will shock everyone. What masquerade would be complete without a little romance? Elizabeth and Lucky not only crash the party but find a moment to trip the light fanatastic. Mad and Felicia struggle over how to tell everyone that they aren't really engaged, since everyone but Mac and Felicia can see why they are perfect for each other. bobbie continues to surprise everyone, including herself as she becomes closer to Carly and vows to stop the Q's from using Jason's disappearance to claim Micheal. And finally, Alan's drug addiction is no longer his best-kept secret. Sounds pretty good to me!! What do ya'll think?? gina - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH May Sweeps Date: 22 Apr 1998 13:22:25 EST5EDT I just received my own copy of these from my mailbox!! sorry for the duplicate postings!!(i'm an idiot!!) gina BTW....what did ya'll think of today's PC?? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH sweeps SPOILERS Date: 22 Apr 1998 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) ---Julie Saker wrote: > > oh boy oh boy oh boy...and i thought YESTERDAY'S news was good?!? some > things i've been waiting for for a VERY long time are coming VERY > soon!!! from abc-joanne... > > m > a > y > > s > w > e > e > p > s > > s > t > u > f > f > > As Brenda > (Vanessa Marcil) and Jason's (Steve Burton) ELQ > flight disappears without the ability to radar anyone > in Port Charles for help, they come to terms with > one another 'Scuse me -- why are Brenda and Jason on an ELQ jet???????? I'm utterly confused!!! :) >>>>>(re:Jax luvs Brenda) > > Awww, come on -- what woman wouldn't want Jax??? LOL!! I think Vanessa Marcil summed it up perfectly in the 35th anniversary special when she said something like "Jax is incredible - the perfect man...he does not exist in real life!" Brenda and Sonny had electricity, yes, but let's face it, he's not good for her. That was an emotionally abusive relationship, and having been through one of those myself, I need not watch it on tv! Jax respects her as well as loves her and that's a true basis for a relationship. If he can learn to trust her again, I think they're good for each other. He makes her want to be a stronger woman and that's good. Ok...off my relationship soapbox now... > Robin (Kimberly McCullough) also admits to > herself that she still loves Jason, hoping and praying > he's still alive. According to Steve Burton's interview with Cindi Rinehart (NW Afternoon) he and Robin will never get back together - she'll wind up with Nickolas, prince of darkness.... > > Stefan (Stephen Nichols) and Katherine (Mary Beth > Evans) decide to celebrate their engagement by > throwing a Bacchanalia Ball. BO-RING!!!!! LOL!! > As guests arrive in > masks and costumes, an unlikely union is formed > between Luke (Anthony Geary) and Alexis (Nancy > Lee Grahn), > > > The only thing more fun to watch than Ned & Alexis is Luke & Alexis!!!! I love their bantering! However, I do NOT want Luke & Alexis "together" - that would not be good. I realize with Genie Francis coming back she'll blow up to find out all the things that have happened that Luke kept from her, but I don't want them with other people - they've come through too much together to blow it now. And frankly, if she has come back just to have them break up it'll be a huge waste of talent! > And finally, > Alan's (Stuart Damon) drug addiction is no longer > his best-kept secret. > > > "Finally"??? What is that, the understatement of the year...the decade??? I am SO tired of that storyline!! As a disabled person who lives in chronic pain, I have a real problem with the way this whole thing was introduced anyway, but that's another soapbox. > Now, here's a sneak peek at Thursday's shows. On > PORT CHARLES, is Kevin's book actually coming > to life? At AMC, Erica wants to hire Axel to portray > her stalker. Over at OLTL, Nora thinks she sees Bo > and Georgie in a clinch. And on GH, Helena > privately vows revenge on Katherine. > Ok...I know this is a GH/PC list, but since someone else included this AMC piece, I have to ask - did anyone else see Michael Knight (Tad) check his zipper yesterday in the middle of a scene??? LOL!! That cracked me up -- did he stop for a pit stop before taping the scene or what??? Too funny!!! == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH sweeps SPOILERS Date: 22 Apr 1998 12:30:37 PDT Geri wrote: > > m > a > y > > s > w > e > e > p > s > > s > t > u > f > f > > 'Scuse me -- why are Brenda and Jason on an ELQ jet???????? I'm >utterly confused!!! :) now THAT i can't help you with! > Awww, come on -- what woman wouldn't want Jax??? LOL!! I think >Vanessa Marcil summed it up perfectly in the 35th anniversary special >when she said something like "Jax is incredible - the perfect >man...he does not exist in real life!" i can deal with the "what woman wouldn't want jax" part, really i can...it's just this whole j&b revisited thing that i can't handle. it's preposterous. if that man takes her back (which we all know he will) he's a bigger idiot than MOST men are. she dumped him, numerous times, for another man, the self-professed "love of her life," and NOW he'd like to settle for second best? please. the man deserves better. if he asks nicely, i'll give him my phone number... :) >Brenda and Sonny had electricity, yes, >but let's face it, he's not good for her. That was an emotionally >abusive relationship, and having been through one of those myself, I >need not watch it on tv! i disagree. not about the part about them not being good for each other--they clearly weren't--but i thought that was part of what made them such great fun to watch! i don't mean to belittle anyone else's pain, nor do i think it would be fun to watch one of my friends go through such a relationship, or to go through one myself--but maurice benard said it himself when he said watching s&b was like watching a train wreck--you don't WANT to look, but you can't help yourself. it's tv, it's drama, it's larger than life...it's just too good not to watch! now, would i want them back together when sonny returns? no, i don't think so. i think what tptb did to sonny makes it impossible for any self-respecting woman to forgive him. but that doesn't mean i want brenda back together with jax either. there ARE other men in the world, aren't there? >Jax respects her as well as loves her and >that's a true basis for a relationship. pardon me??? now THIS i REALLY disagree with. respects her? please. jax likes to play, and jax likes to win. do you remember how he first came to port charles, trying to woo lois away from ned? or how he blackmailed brenda into marrying him with that little ultimatum of his? or how he conveniently forgot to mention his previous not-quite-dead wife? or, and this is the worst part, in my view--how he's consistently leading her on now? ok, we have the advantage of knowing that guza WILL put them back together sooner or later. but let's pretend we didn't know that--that these were two people we knew (god, i wish!). and jax person, despite telling brenda person in no uncertain terms that there is NO hope for a reconciliation between the two of them (remember--we DON'T KNOW he's wrong) continues to let her spend all her money (money she doesn't have, i might add) on him, despite the fact that he's a gazillionaire, and almost gets her shot (i don't count that nick as actually BEING shot), and kisses her but then says "no, i didn't mean that"...if brenda person were your best friend, what would YOU tell her? keep on trying? or GIVE UP ALREADY--HE'S LEADING YOU ON!!! >If he can learn to trust her >again, I think they're good for each other. He makes her want to be >a stronger woman and that's good. i don't think brenda is capable of being a stronger woman until she severs all ties with both sonny AND jax, realizes there ARE other men in the world, and--more importantly--realizes she can live just fine without ANY of them. and maybe learns how to make a decision on her own someday. that'd be nice, too. :) > Ok...off my relationship soapbox now... yeah, me too! this subject makes me a little rabid...in case you hadn't noticed! > According to Steve Burton's interview with Cindi Rinehart (NW >Afternoon) he and Robin will never get back together - she'll wind up >with Nickolas, prince of darkness.... i remember reading a quote by guza saying r&j still had a lot of unfinished business--but i've decided he lies when it's convenient, so who knows. > The only thing more fun to watch than Ned & Alexis is Luke & >Alexis!!!! I love their bantering! However, I do NOT want Luke & >Alexis "together" - that would not be good. oh, i don't think THAT will happen. guza also said that breaking up l&l would be like breaking up his parents. i just meant that i LOVE luke and alexis together as sparring partners, or reluctant (on alexis's part) co-conspirators. i just love their scenes together, and think if the two of them team up against helena, sparks could REALLY fly! so i wouldn't worry about genie--i think she's got some GREAT stuff waiting for her when she comes back! julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Sweeps Spoilers Date: 22 Apr 1998 15:34:51 -0400 s p o i l e r s p a c e 'Scuse me -- why are Brenda and Jason on an ELQ jet???????? I'm utterly confused!!! :) Gotta say, the only reason right now is....so that both of them can crash land somewhere in Rio to see ol' Sonny boy! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Catching up Date: 25 Apr 1998 06:56:33 -0700 Well, I'm back. The Magic Kingdom was delightful, and Tuesday it was HOT. Niece, nephew and sisters were DYING to come home by yesterday, though. Thank gods. None of them actually have to go to work today. While we were in line for Star Tours the guy who works there started teasing me that everyone else in our group was wearing Disney hats, and what was the matter with me? I was wearing my GH hat that I bought at the Museum of TV and Radio last month when Cagey and I were in LA for our PC set tour. So I told him that I *was* wearing a Disney hat. GH is owned by ABC, which is owned by Disney. So neener, neener, neener. He was quite amused. Anyway, 'scuse me whilst I play "catch-up.: Julie wrote: >>>>>>(re:Jax luvs Brenda) >> Amen. Geri wrote: > Awww, come on -- what woman wouldn't want Jax??? LOL!! But, he's a BLOND. ;-) (I have a SERIOUS allergy to blond guys, don't ask me why.) Beyond that, I think I've gotten to the point of sharing Mac's opinion of Jax -- especially after that assassination attempt business. And I still can't watch Brenda at ALL. Julie wrote: >i disagree. not about the part about them not being good for each >other--they clearly weren't--but i thought that was part of what made >them such great fun to watch! I agree. Part of what was enticing about them is that the ONLY place Sonny and Brenda would EVER be able to be together would be in a soap. The rest of the world would have chewed them up and spit them out in the first six months. It made for fabulous escapism. >now, would i want them back together when sonny returns? no, i don't >think so. i think what tptb did to sonny makes it impossible for any >self-respecting woman to forgive him. but that doesn't mean i want >brenda back together with jax either. there ARE other men in the world, >aren't there? The way those three have been written over the past couple of years sometimes make me doubt that. >if brenda person were your best friend, what would YOU tell her? >keep on trying? or GIVE UP ALREADY--HE'S LEADING YOU ON!!! You know, despite the fact that I can't watch them at all, I have to say that even on fast-forward they've been looking more and more like this all the time. If they are going to get back together, yes, absolutely Brenda needs to make some SERIOUS amends with Jax and he needs to learn to trust her. But she's jumping through hoops and he's playing games. Aside from the fact that I actually (for once) agree with Jax's position regarding Brenda at the moment, he keeps sending her totally mixed signals -- the kind that men trash women for sending ALL the time. >i don't think brenda is capable of being a stronger woman until she >severs all ties with both sonny AND jax, realizes there ARE other men in >the world, and--more importantly--realizes she can live just fine >without ANY of them. and maybe learns how to make a decision on her own >someday. that'd be nice, too. :) Ha! Don't hold your breath, Julie! Geri wrote: > According to Steve Burton's interview with Cindi Rinehart (NW >Afternoon) he and Robin will never get back together - she'll wind up >with Nickolas, prince of darkness.... I still haven't made up my mind about that pair at all. On one hand I like it MUCH better now that they are moving Robin away from the conventional stuff she was doing before (pre-med, college, etc.), but I really go back and forth a lot as to whether or not I like Nikolas at all -- never mind my recent complaints about what they've been doing with Robin. Julie wrote: >i remember reading a quote by guza saying r&j still had a lot of >unfinished business--but i've decided he lies when it's convenient, so >who knows. That makes him pretty much like every other member of TPTB. Though, it's entirely possible that "unfinished business" (which I do agree they still have) could be dealt with without them getting back together. And considering the way that Guza tends to write for Robin, I think I may actually prefer it that way. OTOH, when it comes to Guza's comments regarding Kevin/Lucy/Scott (that there is just too much history to resist delving into when it comes to Scott and Lucy -- bleah. Been there, done that. Scott bolted from town with a two day old infant and left Lucy standing in the snow in a cemetery with a seven digit check that was supposed to heal her broken heart. Grrrrr.), I could SERIOUSLY get behind the idea that he was just BIG TIME lying. Please, please, please. re: Kat and Bat Geri again: > > BO-RING!!!!! LOL!! Amen to that one, too. OTOH, what a DELIGHTFUL time for Laura to resurface! > The only thing more fun to watch than Ned & Alexis is Luke & >Alexis!!!! I love their bantering! I second THAT emotion. >However, I do NOT want Luke & >Alexis "together" - that would not be good. Nah, never gonna happen. Even with Guza talking out of both sides of his mouth, he'd never do it. He couldn't afford to. I do wish he'd put a lid on it already, though. He spent MONTHS going on and on and on and on about how he could NEVER break up Luke and Laura, and talking about how it'd be like his parents getting a divorce, and then in the past two months he says stuff like, "We're not afraid to deconstruct the greatest love of all time." Yadda, yadda, yadda. HA!!! ABC-whatshername wrote: >>Finally, an unknown woman and her child arrive in town >>and manage to threaten Karen and Joe's relationship. >>But, why? Cagey commented: >Because she and Karen had an affair, and the child is >Karen's love baby! Don't get my hopes up like that. Nothin' I love more than a good controversy. >who lost her good Ned and Alexis quotation. The one that >went something like "Your eyes should come with a warning >label." Anybody got it? ;) Probably. Let me check at the office. >My biggest complaint, however, lies with Alexis. Why, oh >why, oh why didn't she just tell Ned that Helena had >threatened her life and she felt compelled to defend Tony. You know, I've had much more cause to complain about the way that Robin has been written lately, but part of me still has this nagging feeling that Guza has essentially 'neutered' Alexis, too. I know she needs vulnerabilities, but I have a real problem watching her cower in front of Helena over and over and over again. Yes, everyone knows not to mess with the Queen of Mean, but eventually a person is going to get sick of having her life threatened every other day and just say, "Fine, do it! But I'm not going to be your lackey anymore!" Maybe I watch too much La Femme Nikita. But I have an even bigger problem with the way that, in general, she seems to be lacking some of her fire lately. I hope it was mostly because they were trying to hide NLG's pregnancy, so they just didn't use her very much. Maybe this alliance with Luke will h*lp; they do bring out the fighters in each other. >I'm blanking on the name of the actor who plays Frank, but >he manages to project such intensity.... He'd make a >*wonderful* villain. I don't think Frank would, however. Jay Pickett. And I'd never thought of him in a villain role before. Hmmmm.... yum. I think you're right about it not quite working for Frank, though. The way the character has been established over most of the past year sort of makes that one impossible to see. >Maybe Frank has a twin that nobody knows about. In fact, >maybe Frank's twin could turn up in Kevin's mirror as a >change of pace, and thereby spare Jon from having to shave. Yes!!! No more shaving! And what a delightful surprise to see you say ANYTHING to support The Beard, dahling. >I'm not saying that I advocate the latter, but since >Taiyin's not here, I won't have to listen to her taunt me >about slippage on the beard/no beard issue ;) Ha! Fat chance! Taiyin Beard. Beard. Beard. Beard. Beard. Beard. "You know, I really wish you wouldn't use the term "loonies" -- at least as long as we're in a *mental hosptial.*" -- Kevin to Scott - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: GH: Yesterday's episode Date: 24 Apr 1998 10:43:21 -0400 Help me out somebody please! Me being the kind hearted person (sap to all of you) I taped party of 5 Wed. for a friend & this stupid VCR that I have decided it didn't want to tape my shows yesterday. Anyone, can you please give me an update on GH. Figures, something probably good happened as well! thanx, Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: Re: Yesterday's GH Date: 24 Apr 1998 08:20:21 PDT On 04/24/98 10:43:21 you wrote: > >Anyone, can >you please give me an update on GH. Figures, something probably good >happened as well! >thanx, >Danielle > this is from the abc website (www.abc.com)--i'll add in comments for anything i think they didn't say enough about... julie Here's what you missed... THURSDAY, April 23 Helena hoped to make inroads at Wyndemere while Stefan was away, but was rebuffed by both Nikolas and Katherine. Helena privately vowed revenge on Katherine. With Luke listening via his audio bug, Helena opened the trunk Alexis brought from Greece. Luke became disturbed when Helena whispered Laura’s name. Nikolas and Robin had dinner at Wyndemere and she saw how easily Nikolas was with the power that he would inherit. Nikolas showed Robin how to fence and a moment of physical proximity affected them both. Brenda celebrated with Jax over her new modeling contract. Brenda later became angry when she thought that Jax had set up the job. Alexis evaded Luke’s questions about why she had taken Tony’s case. Alexis later took a file given to her by Helena to Dara, who was threatened by its contents. Aware of Nikolas’s interest in Robin, Jason asked Luke if he thought that the Cassadines would hurt her. Luke told Jason that Robin could be in danger if she has a relationship with Nikolas. Jason and Mike caught up with one another and shared their bafflement over Robin’s defense of Tony at the trial. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: RE: GH/PC: Re: Yesterday's GH Date: 24 Apr 1998 13:11:13 -0400 thanx for the great update, Julie! Danielle > ---------- > From: Julie Saker[SMTP:jesaker@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 24, 1998 11:20 AM > To: port-charles@xmission.com > Subject: GH/PC: Re: Yesterday's GH > > On 04/24/98 10:43:21 you wrote: > > > >Anyone, can > >you please give me an update on GH. Figures, something probably good > >happened as well! > >thanx, > >Danielle > > > > this is from the abc website (www.abc.com)--i'll > add in comments for anything i think they didn't > say enough about... > > julie > > -------------------------------------------------- > Here's what you missed... > > THURSDAY, April 23 > > Helena hoped to make inroads at Wyndemere > while Stefan was away, but was rebuffed by > both Nikolas and Katherine. Helena privately > vowed revenge on Katherine. With Luke listening > via his audio bug, Helena opened the trunk > Alexis brought from Greece. Luke became disturbed > when Helena whispered Laura's name. > > scene of the ep--helena opened the trunk (we, of > course, didn't get to see what was in it) and > just whispered, "Laura..." cut to luke's face... > he was NOT pleased> > > Nikolas and Robin had dinner at Wyndemere and > she saw how easily Nikolas was with the power > that he would inherit. Nikolas showed Robin how > to fence and a moment of physical proximity affected > them both. Brenda celebrated with Jax over her new > modeling contract. Brenda later became angry when > she thought that Jax had set up the job. > > who hired her and a "mr. jax," telling him it was > all set. my guess is that it's jerry though...> > > Alexis evaded Luke's questions about why she had > taken Tony's case. Alexis later took a file given > to her by Helena to Dara, who was threatened by its > contents. > > looked physically ill when she was more-or-less > blackmailing dara (with the unknown contents of > helena's file). plus, luke's parting shot to alexis > was something like, "one day helena's going to ask > you to do something that just turns your stomach..." > and alexis replied, "that day has already come."> > > Aware of Nikolas's interest in Robin, Jason asked Luke > if he thought that the Cassadines would hurt her. Luke > told Jason that Robin could be in danger if she has a > relationship with Nikolas. > > danger from helena if she spent time with nik. luke, > obviously, said yes--that all cassadines are dangerous, > some obviously so, like helena, and some in a more > subtle way, like nik. luke also asked jason to have > his men follow lucky whenever he leaves helena's yacht, > to see if he can figure out where he's living.> > > Jason and Mike caught up with one another and shared > their bafflement over Robin's defense of Tony at the trial. > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lilyp215@juno.com (Lynda T Phan) Subject: GH/PC: Luke & Laura Date: 25 Apr 1998 11:21:13 -0700 I'm doing a 4 page research paper for my English class. Do you guys think I'll have enough information to do on it Luke & Laura? If so, can you give me ideas on where I can get their complete history (e.g. web sites addresses). Thanks for your help. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: GH/PC: Luke & Laura Date: 25 Apr 1998 16:12:19 -0700 I would suggest doing a hotbot or altavista web search for general hospital. This should give you plenty of sites to chose from. karen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Luke & Laura Date: 26 Apr 1998 13:15:39 -0700 At 11:21 AM 4/25/98 -0700, Lynda T Phan wrote: >I'm doing a 4 page research paper for my English class. Do you guys >think I'll have enough information to do on it Luke & Laura? If so, can >you give me ideas on where I can get their complete history (e.g. web >sites addresses). Yeah, you should. Start at http://www.taiyin.net/links/ and look under "Spencers." I was just at another GH/PC page recently that had a LOT of Luke and Laura history. It is at http://members.xoom.com/LukeLaura/spencer.html Also, another one that is very good is linked from the Ultimate Links Page also, and it chronicles the events of the night that Luke raped Laura. Since I don't know exactly what your paper is about, I'm not sure what exactly you are looking for, but those two (at least) should be a big h*lp. Good luck. Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Carly Date: 27 Apr 1998 08:54:36 -0400 Okay, was it just a matter of time or what the Carly went off the deep end???? (I'm having a flashback of Heather Webber, here) w/the sanitarium business. And Hasn't Tony been shot WAY too many times???? I must tell you that I CANNOT wait for the return of Sonny (but I feel that's gonna be a let down....those short returns usually are) and the return of Laura. I was basically jumping up & down when I heard of her...."finally"....return! Can't wait, the fireworks are gonna be going off....BIGTIME!!!!! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Luke/Lucky/Carly Date: 28 Apr 1998 11:48:00 -0400 I was loving yesterday's GH. How 'bout the part when Helena gave Lucky that slap...he's needed one of those for a while...& then Luke standing there w/the gun. I was psyched. Also, Carly reacting in the court room. . That's why this girl is nominated for an emmy. Daniell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Luke/Lucky/Carly Date: 28 Apr 1998 13:01:03 -0600 Danielle Graham wrote: > > Also, Carly reacting in the court room. > . That's why this girl is nominated for an emmy. > As much as I love to hate the character of Carly :), Sarah Brown did an exceptional job with these scenes-- I forgot about everything she has ever done to tick off everyone and I felt horrible for her! She was phenomenal yesterday-- I was watching the other day with one of my friends and they were noticing the way Alan takes his pills- head thrown back, water etc. For someone who supposedly is popping pills all day long he sure makes a big deal about it! My apologies if this has been talked about before, when the storyline first started, but I have to take medicine everyday, and I don't even need water anymore-someone else I know who has chronic headaches, same thing- you get so used to it you just take them-- well, I think this could be voted most unimportant post of the week :) Just something I noticed-- Rebecca > Daniell > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Luke/Lucky/Carly Date: 28 Apr 1998 15:35:13 -0400 Rebecca wrote: >I was watching the other day with one of my friends and they were >noticing the way Alan takes his pills- head thrown back, water etc. Yeah, HELLO! Taggart notices this and every doctor in GH has no clue, especially his wife. Poor acting I think on Stuart's part. But he's not looking too hot these days. Originally they said he was to lose weight to look the part. Does ANYONE think he looks thinner?? Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: WAAAAYYYY behind Date: 28 Apr 1998 15:51:50 -0700 Well, we tried to make it through two weeks worth of GH and PC this weekend. Didn't QUITE make it, but I'm ALMOST caught up. About the only comment I have at the moment is about V. YAY!!!! Maybe now that she's working for Mac she'll actually have some STORYLINE! Woo hoo! Taiyin "I stand in awe of you." --"Give me five minutes. You might want to rethink your position." -- Jon Hanley and Lucy, 1995 Nurse's Ball - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/the teacher-- Date: 28 Apr 1998 18:29:22 -0600 Hello all- I know that we talked about this before, but I think that now we are definately seeing that Liz's teacher, Murty?, is being set up as the attacker-- (so I am not going to put spoiler space- hope that's okay, since I won't talk about anything that hasn't happened.) I am not entirely sure how I feel about this, but as an educator myself, I am currently feeling like it is a cheap shot for drama's sake. Of course, I can only speak for myself, but to set up the teacher as someone trying to help Liz, someone who can understand kids and is supposedly an excellent teacher-- to then turn around and make that person an attacker, emotionally and physically, of the student he has been shown to help? It just astounds me that someone thought this was a good idea. Again, because I teach, I admit that I am most likely unable to view this situation w/o bias, but I have seen teachers who change children's lives, who give them support and respect they may not get from any other source, who love to teach and are certainly not there for financial reward. I remember how much I respected and looked up to the majority of my teachers-- I am still young myself! I am not saying there are not teachers who harm students, because unfortunately that does happen. Maybe Guza is trying to show that no one can be trusted not to harm you, that you have to watch out for everyone? Especially because Liz and Lucky are young, and therefore are more likely to attract a younger audience, I wonder about the wisdom of this choice. It just seems unfair to paint this picture when there are so many people trying to help children of all ages. Again, just my feelings right now-- does anyone else have any feeling on this now that it is a little more than speculation that he may be the one? Am I the only one who feels this way? Sorry for my inarticulateness, (not enough sleep today) but hopefully I didn't offend anyone... Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/the teacher-- Date: 28 Apr 1998 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Rebecca wrote: >Am I the only one who feels this way? No, you're not. We had this discussion a couple weeks back, and a few of us felt the same way. I, in particular, am disappointed--making the teacher a sexual predator is a cheap way to play on parental fears. I tend to expect better of Guza (silly me). My only consolation is that perhaps Liz will get some closure on this story. In another, unrelated, reflection.... Brad Maule did a wonderful job with that triumphant, annoying smile in the courtroom on Friday/Monday. He looked so smug and frightening that I wanted to smack him. Kudos to both BM and Sarah Brown for their performances. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Waaay Behind! Date: 29 Apr 1998 08:50:22 -0400 >About the only comment I have at the moment is about V. >YAY!!!! >Maybe now that she's working for Mac she'll actually have some >STORYLINE! Does anybody else think that V would be great for Mac? I'm SOOO tired of the Felicia/Mac business. She's way too spunky to keep down!! Loving her! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 29 Apr 1998 08:53:31 -0400 >I know that we talked about this before, but I think that now we are >definitely seeing that Liz's teacher, Murty?, I was definitely sure in the beginning that Murty was at fault & still am wavering on whether he has anything to do w/it. (But after yesterday's episode where Lucky & Liz found out about his ex-wife.....ugh, oh...there's the story I think). I'm not looking forward to the rapist being a teacher, but then again, wasn't Luke one, too??? Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 29 Apr 1998 16:59:27 -0700 At 08:53 AM 4/29/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: >ex-wife.....ugh, oh...there's the story I think). I'm not looking >forward to the rapist being a teacher, but then again, wasn't Luke one, >too??? Not quite the same thing, though. No matter what happened between Luke and Laura, he didn't drag a 15 year old off a park bench, beat the tar out of her and rape her in the bushes. Not that what he did was really any "better" -- but it's still very different. Besides, more than a few people (especially TPTB) whished they could go back and undo Luke raping Laura. I just think it's a really crappy way to take this storyline. Ever since people started recognizing and defining rape to include acquaintance/date rape, soaps have REALLY gotten hung up on that. And yes, that is the kind that happens most often, but this storyline from the outset was set up to be different than that. And I feel very cheated at them going back and re-wriitng history now. I thought the story was MUCH more solid and powerful and brave and impressive when the chances of Liz ever actually finding her attacker were non-existant. Having to get on with her life and accept the fact that she would never know who it was, or why he did it, much less ever see him punished for it, made the story MUCH more powerful, IMO. This feels like a huge cop-out. Taiyin "I stand in awe of you." --"Give me five minutes. You might want to rethink your position." -- Jon Hanley and Lucy, 1995 Nurse's Ball - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Waaay Behind! Date: 29 Apr 1998 17:03:00 -0700 At 08:50 AM 4/29/98 -0400, Danielle Graham wrote: > >Does anybody else think that V would be great for Mac? I'm SOOO tired of >the Felicia/Mac business. She's way too spunky to keep down!! Loving >her! Well, I agree with the Mac and Felicia part, but I'm not so sure about mac and V. I know that I actually almost LIKE Jax when he's with V, and I certainly did enjoy V's dinner with Ned. I wish they'd let her move around the canvas a bit and see who she clicks with. It took TPTB a long time, and that hokey dream sequence of Brenda in the bathtub, before they managed to realize the potential of the Sonny/Brenda pairing. Maybe they should mix things up a bit and let them play out. V rocks, though, and as long as she gets to do SOMETHING I almost don't care who they pair her with... for now, anyway. Taiyin "I stand in awe of you." --"Give me five minutes. You might want to rethink your position." -- Jon Hanley and Lucy, 1995 Nurse's Ball - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geri Fosseen Subject: GH/PC: Guza on NW Afternoon Date: 29 Apr 1998 19:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi all... Guza did a call in interview with Cindi Rinehart of NW Afternoon today. Most of what he said wasn't terribly exciting, but he did imply something rather odd. When Cindi said something about how the possibilities are limited with Sonny only being back for a few episodes, Guza interupted her with "Well, you never know......" She said, "What do you mean - is he coming back for good?" and he said, "Anything is possible, don't count anything out." Now, personally, I found this to be rather annoying, as Maurice Bernard has said in no uncertain terms that he is not interested in coming back for real. Sure money talks and he could change his mind, but this sure felt like a tease to make us hope and tune in during sweeps. What's everyone else think?? Also, anyone see Luke, Lucky and Scotty on The View this morning??? If you blinked, you might have missed it!! LOL!! They didn't appear to have any reason to be on, other than to be adorable, but it was kinda nice to see them anyway. Is it just me or is Tony Geary getting more adorable each year??? He's not conventionally handsome, but it's like his personality and sense of humor make him very attractive and even sexy. Dunno...maybe I'm just weird! :) And as for V -- how 'bout Ned??? That scene the other day when she saw right through him was a kick and it looks like he won't be doing the horizontal limbo with Alexis again any time soon.....might be fun! Last comment -- Murty. I agree that it's a cheap shot and it was a more powerful story when we didn't know who the assailant was, but at least they're showing a pattern of abuse instead of making it look like this good teacher *suddenly* freaked out and started attacking students. Then again, I suppose the idea of a teacher with a record of abuse isn't a whole lot better.....never mind, it's a story without any up side whatsoever!!! LOL! That's all my inane ramblings for today.... == Take Care...Geri ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ %~}"I believe I am growing skeptical of cynicism."{~% --Chuck Lorre %~}"Do not think you are on the right path just because it is well-beaten."{~% --Unknown ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnneBPT Subject: Re: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 29 Apr 1998 23:13:53 EDT In a message dated 98-04-29 20:15:57 EDT, you write: << And I feel very cheated at them going back and re-wriitng history now. I thought the story was MUCH more solid and powerful and brave and impressive when the chances of Liz ever actually finding her attacker were non-existant. Having to get on with her life and accept the fact that she would never know who it was, or why he did it, much less ever see him punished for it, made the story MUCH more powerful, IMO. >> As I said the last time this discussion came up, I saw them hinting around Mr. Murty from day 1. The first time Lizzie left the house after the rape and was in Kelly's he ws looking at her in a way that made her uncomfortable. She even mentioned it to Lucky, and discounted it as just being nervous about everyone. There were a few more scenes that made me believe he was the most likely suspect as well but I can't remember them now. So whether or not people agree that the teacher should or should not be the rapist, I'm nearly positive that this is the way they meant it to play out from the beginning. I think the rewrite would be to take the teacher off the hook. You're probably right that not ever finding out would have made the story more powerful though. I also think it is only slightly different what Luke did and what this rapist did. The main difference being that Laura knew all along that Luke raped her, and Lizzie didn't know at first(or maybe still hasn't totally figured it out -- I'm a little behind). JMHO, Anne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: About Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 29 Apr 1998 23:03:58 -0600 Taiyin wrote: > > I thought the story was MUCH more solid and powerful and brave and > impressive when the chances of Liz ever actually finding her attacker >were > non-existant. Having to get on with her life and accept the fact that she > would never know who it was, or why he did it, much less ever see him > punished for it, made the story MUCH more powerful, IMO. > > This feels like a huge cop-out. > > Taiyin Thank you for putting into words what I was thinking-- and I have a question about the liz/lucky relationship before the attack: I watched rather sporadically the last year or so, maybe once a month, (I know, what was I thinking? Luckily, I have seen the light) and it seemed that Liz liked Lucky but he was not interested in her? Until she was attacked that is. If this is the case (and PLEASE correct me and give me background if it is not!), then this has been lurkingly bothering me- that Lucky would not be with Liz unless she was attacked- sort of reinforcing the idea of female neediness (which I think is justified-- in this scenario she DID need somebody) but I guess I would have liked it better if Lucky had been interested in her BEFORE this happened, and was there for her when she needed him. Does this make any sense? In fact, around this time was when I began watching regularly, and I thought that Liz made up the story to get Lucky to notice her, to get his sympathy. Although I can now see this is NOT the case, I am still kind of bothered by this negative reinforcement, if you will. But, as I said, I do NOT know the whole back story to this, so if someone could let me know if I am way off base here, I would appreciate it. :) Rebecca - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 30 Apr 1998 08:54:12 -0400 Rebecca wrote: >it seemed that >Liz liked Lucky but he was not interested in her? Yeah, at 1st he was ga-ga over Sarah (gag me), but in some scenes, especially the one where Liz took Lucky w/her to "save" Sarah from Nikolas at the Cassadines Summer house, I think that was really the 1st time he seemed to really care about Liz. I think Lucky became friends w/Liz 1st, cuz he was just lusting after Sarah (WHY????). This is becoming such a great story, but like everybody else, the thought of Mr. Murty being the rapist bothers me a bit. But, I think there would be no closure, ever for Liz if she never found out who the rapist is. I think Laura will play heavily in her "recovery" on this! Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Graham Subject: GH/PC: V/Ned/Brenda/Jax Date: 30 Apr 1998 09:04:43 -0400 Geri wrote: >And as for V -- how 'bout Ned??? I was on that one like white on rice, big time! I think it would be great. She's got that kinda....Lois spunk! (Puh-lease don't put her with that Jerry creature...he makes me a bit ill). I also have to say after yesterday's episode w/Jax & Brenda....I'M LOOOOVINNN' THEM!!!! I just love them together!!!!! I wanted to kick the hell outta Jerry & Jax for arranging that "meeting". SONNY...WHO!!!!! Jax looked so adorable trying to avoid Brenda, but when he finally said...."Oh, what the hell...." I was dying! Did anyone else dig that as much??? Danielle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN reminder Date: 30 Apr 1998 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Spoilers on this list include *anything* that has not been specifically mentioned on the show: it doesn't matter whether it's been in one of the plethora of soap magazines, on your favorite spoiler web site that gets a million hits per day, or on r.a.t.s.a. Some people, believe it or not, don't like to be spoiled . Please remember to include spoiler space. It must be twelve lines of characters--not spaces, or periods, as some mail readers are confused by them. Thanks. --Cagey, List Mom - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: Robin's world Date: 30 Apr 1998 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT) It must be so nice to live in Robin's world. "Promise me" this, "promise me" that. Robin is, admittedly, a wonderful, admirable, and all around neat person, but her visit with Tony today epitomized for me why lately she irritates the heck out of me. Not only did she think that asking Tony to promise that he wouldn't kidnap Michael again was going to stick, but she truly believed that Tony would just see the light. She admitted repeatedly to Felicia that she thought Tony needed help--was getting shot going to do the trick? It must be nice to be Robin. --kg - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebecca Subject: Re: GH/PC: Liz/Lucky/Teacher Date: 30 Apr 1998 23:45:20 -0600 Danielle Graham wrote: > > Rebecca wrote: > >it seemed that > >Liz liked Lucky but he was not interested in her? > > Yeah, at 1st he was ga-ga over Sarah (gag me), but in some scenes, > especially the one where Liz took Lucky w/her to "save" Sarah from > Nikolas at the Cassadines Summer house, I think that was really the 1st > time he seemed to really care about Liz. I think Lucky became friends > w/Liz 1st, cuz he was just lusting after Sarah (WHY????). Thank you for clarifying this for me-- I appreciate the back history. My roommate and I were watching Sarah chew out Robin for "stealing" her boyfriend and we wondered how stupid the actress who plays Sarah must have felt doing that scene! I don't quite understand the attraction either... And Laura playing heavily in the recovery of Liz? (already deleted original- that is a quote from Danielle) Very interesting, and something I had not thought of! The woman Lucky is having a problem with as far as not having told him the whole story, being the one able to help the girl he is trying so hard to help- what interesting dynamic! Thanks Danielle! Rebecca -