From: owner-port-charles-digest@lists.xmission.com (port-charles-digest) To: port-charles-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: port-charles-digest V1 #24 Reply-To: port-charles-digest Sender: owner-port-charles-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-port-charles-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk port-charles-digest Tuesday, February 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:41:48 EST5EDT From: "Gina Clayton" Subject: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan OK...what did everyone think about the confrontation between Bobbie and Stefan? I thought it was great to see Stefan oozing malice. He plays a great complex villian. I liked it when he admitted he didn't tell her when they were married because it would have hurt her and then after the divorce it was a weapon he didn't need. That seemed so true of character...it is over no second chance.(aka...Alexis?) I thought Carly/Caroline would be the one to spill the beans about Luke, but to have STEFAN do it is even worse. Of course, he has no reason to lie to Bobbie. One thing that bothered me was that he said the only reason he was graciously granting Bobbie the info. that her brother was lying to her was because she was nice to Nik. I think it was more than a "duty" or "repayment". Any thoughts on this?? JZ Rocks...she has been great lately. On another note...I usually love Robin, but she is starting to bother me with her pleas for Jason to do the "right" thing. I know it is wrong to keep Michael from AJ and all, but that is ALL she talks about. I would like for her to get a real storyline....after all she could have been a bigger part in this Mac/Jimmy thing. JMHO..she is a much better actress than the material she has been given lately. I hope Guza livens things up soon...I have faith he will. have a great day everyone!! gina - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:11:57 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan At 01:41 PM 2/11/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote: >OK...what did everyone think about the confrontation between Bobbie >and Stefan? I thought it was great to see Stefan oozing malice. He >plays a great complex villian. Well, now that I am FINALLY caught up and not swamped with either work or homework, I can comment. I LOVED this scene. It was incredibley well done. It was also inevitable. Guza has said from the beginning that he thought the Bobbie/Stefan dynamic was fabulous and that he could easily see it playing out for YEARS (and that's part of why he doesn't like the Kat/Bat thing), and so it was just a matter of time before he did SOMETHING to give them a scene together -- even if it is as enemies again. >I thought Carly/Caroline would be the one to spill the beans about >Luke, but to have STEFAN do it is even worse. But it made for fabulous drama. :-) >Of course, he has no >reason to lie to Bobbie. One thing that bothered me was that he said >the only reason he was graciously granting Bobbie the info. that her >brother was lying to her was because she was nice to Nik. I think it >was more than a "duty" or "repayment". Any thoughts on this?? I thought that was kind of a stupid thing to say. I mean, it was a very tactical move for him to have witheld that info before, and now that she knows it, there is no point in his trying to deny that he knew it. And the entire notion that he doesn't care if Bobbie and Luke are at each other's throats is ABSURD. That kind of thing is a huge emotional drain -- not to mention distraction. Of course Stefan would relish Luke being preoccupied with his sister (again), and not paying as close attention to other matters as he should. >JZ Rocks...she has been great lately. I *totally* agree. She goes through waves of really irritating me, but lately she's been fabulous. And Brad Maule is doing a fabulous job of making Tony pathetic and contemptable. >On another note...I usually love Robin, but she is starting to bother >me with her pleas for Jason to do the "right" thing. I know it is >wrong to keep Michael from AJ and all, but that is ALL she talks >about. I agree. Kimberly is too good to do that one note bit; and Robin has too much history to squander her that way, too. I was amused at that little "test" yesterday, though. Why don't TPTB just put a sign up over Kimberly and Christopher Tyler: "Potential Love Interest Test Screening." >I would like for her to get a real storyline....after all she >could have been a bigger part in this Mac/Jimmy thing. Speaking of which -- did anyone else notice that Mac didn't even bat an eye at Robin being back in town (thoguh at least he had a semi-genuine reaction to Robin and Jason possibly getting back together)? Mac was already locked away in the cabin when Robin showed up. The last he heard she was in Paris and now, not only is she back, but she's back to stay and he says NOTHING? I did enjoy Felicia decking him, though. :-) More than anything else, though, I must say that last year, when Sarah Brown won her Emmy I couldn't understand why. Over the past few days, the only thing I can think about is that I can't imagine her *not* winning again. She has been so incredible -- especially yesterday when Virginia died. The way she was lashing out at everyone was fabulous. Of course, not QUITE as fabulous as THE confrontation that we've been waiting for for over a year: Luke and Bobbie. Oh boy, they were incredible. Totally awesome. The bit about Luke playing cards with the johns while Bobbie was hooking was great. TG and JZ were both awesome. And then later when Luke was with Carly -- they were both great again. I *love* them together (and the bit about her being a self-professed Spencer meaning that she'd never get him off her back was rather classic, too). I am really glad, though, that Luke didn't cut her too much slack, though. She may be sympathetic at the moment, but Virginia was right: just because she tells the truth one night doesn't undo all the damage she's done. But I did almost applaud Virginia's comment in the Grille about, based on what everyone else has said about Tony, she doesn't like him, either. And HE was asking to be smacked -- how in the hell does that deluded jerk think that it was *Carly's* fault that he left his wife and son? I don't THINK so. He is a big boy and if he can't control himself then that is not HER fault. I am really sorry they killed off Virginia, though. I don't think that, tactically speaking, it was really the best time to do that. But now that it's done, I hope Guza makes the most of it. Taiyin "Well, don't tell me that you're trying to perhaps let me know that you, what -- find me attractive?" - --"Magnetic. Like those bug zappers. You know it's certain death, but you dive in anyway." -- Lucy and Kevin - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:40:13 -0500 From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan At 09:11 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote: >I *totally* agree. She goes through waves of really irritating me, but >lately she's been fabulous. >And Brad Maule is doing a fabulous job of making Tony pathetic and >contemptable. and >Over the past few days, the only thing I can think about is that I can't >imagine her *not* winning again. She has been so incredible -- I admit, my expectations for Monday were too high. I was disappointed by JZ; I wanted far more fireworks than I got, though Tony's almost instant understanding that *this* was the truth was great. And, of course, I *love* the fact that in order to keep her "I never cared for Tony" charade going, Carly can't even defend herself against the charge that she was deliberately trying to hurt Bobbie. A wonderful piece of irony, that. But still, I was disappointed. Until Tuesday and Wednesday. Sarah Brown and Brad just kicked...er, butt in the last scenes on Tuesday. The absolute scathing bitterness that they felt for one another was phenomenal. And then... >Of course, not QUITE as fabulous as THE confrontation that we've been >waiting for for over a year: Luke and Bobbie. Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these three. I can't wait until Luke finds out Jason isn't Michael's father.... Woo hoo! - --kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:46:29 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan At 02:40 PM 2/12/98 -0500, Cagey wrote: >But still, I was disappointed. Until Tuesday and Wednesday. Sarah Brown >and Brad just kicked...er, butt in the last scenes on Tuesday. The >absolute scathing bitterness that they felt for one another was phenomenal. It was almost frightening, actually. And the way they ripped into each other after Virginia died at the hospital yesterday. I do like them together a hundred times more now than I did when they were all sappy sweet, though. By boy, they sure don't pull any punches, do they? Wow. >Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very >well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to >Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her >that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these >three. So do I. And I love that it *does* matter to Luke. He could have very easily just walked away from her, once and for all, and let her go do her own thing now that the truth is out and he doesn't have the threat of hurting Bobbie hanging over him anymore. The fact that he points out to her AGAIN that she is a Spencer, period, is really cool. I can't wait to see today when he tells Lucky. >I can't wait until Luke finds out Jason isn't Michael's father.... That one will prove fun, too. Let's just hope they don't leave us hanging for quite as long as they did with Carly's last big revelation. Sheesh. I don't think my heart can take another two years of torture when it comes to this girl. And if ANYONE can appreciate defending that kid from life as a Quartermaine, Luke can. ;-) Taiyin "For the best motion and comotion with the motion in the room , naturally the best prize here is some of Mexico's finest mescal. I would give myself the prize, of course, but that wouldn't be fair. I would give it to my son -- he was making some pretty cool moves over there, but my wife would kill him if he ate the worm." -- Luke - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:54:31 -0800 From: Jill Kirby Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan >Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very > >well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to > >Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her > >that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these > >three. I do, too, and I still can't stand Carly-- but when she's with Luke, I watch. When he asked her yesterday if she needed any help with the arrangements-- my heart just skipped a beat. I was disappointed that Carly responded with her patented "I can take care of it," without realizing what Luke was offering, in his own way. HE was offering the support you give a member of your family. :) Jill - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:06:45 -0500 From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan At 11:54 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote: >HE was offering the support you give a member of your family. True, but you can't really blame her for shrugging it off. She just doesn't "get" family in that way, and she certainly has little cause to expect anything from Luke except death threats . - --kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:01:01 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan At 11:54 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote: >arrangements-- my heart just skipped a beat. I was disappointed that >Carly responded with her patented "I can take care of it," without >realizing what Luke was offering, in his own way. HE was offering the >support you give a member of your family. :) True. But if she had accepted his h*lp at this point, it would have been a little suspicious. After all, Luke hasn't exactly given her many reasons to trust him. She was seriously surprised when he said that she had done the right thing. I think part of her was still honestly afraid that he would carry out his original threat to kill her. Eventually they'll work it out, and then it'll be cool. But for now, I actually really like their mututal distrust and loathing -- especially when tempered with a bit of reluctant sentimentality. Taiyin "Hey, Mr. Spencer, this is a great party." - -- "Emily, until the day I wander around town with my underwear on the outside of my clothes, dribble running down my chin, please don't call me Mr. Spencer." - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:56:00 -0800 From: Jill Kirby Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan Re: Taiyin's comment that if Carly had accepted Luke's help, that would have been weird/suspicious: Agreed. I guess what I was looking for was more of an acknowledgement, than anything, from Carly regarding what Luke was saying. More realization that he was offering to help, as a member of her family. I certainly wouldn't expect her to the help. :) She's too stubborn-- certainly a Spencer trait... Jill - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:04:23 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Spencers At 12:56 PM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote: >Agreed. I guess what I was looking for was more of an acknowledgement, >than anything, from Carly regarding what Luke was saying. More >realization that he was offering to help, as a member of her family. I >certainly wouldn't expect her to the help. :) She's too >stubborn-- certainly a Spencer trait... And hardly her only one, either. That's part of what I keep waiting for, here: no one has pointed out that, frankly, Carly's behavior has had a very definite "Spencer" quality to it. I think they are conveniently forgetting that Bobbie was not always a paragon of virtue. Her schemeing manipulations may not have been as dramatic as Carly's, but her means weren't much different. And her motives were rarely as understandable. And we don't even need to START in on Luke. But I guess that doesn't really fit in with the current image of Bobbie. Too bad. It would certainly make things interesting. Taiyin DARA: "Luke thinks I like him." JUSTUS: "He assumes all the women do." DARA: "If he weren't already taken, I think I might think about it." JUSTUS: "I think someone put something in your drink. Bartender!" -- General Hospital - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:31:06 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: Tony and Luke Whoa. Tony just keeps slipping farther and farther into the abyss, doesn't he? I certainly hope that Brad Maule was in the mood for a haircut. ;-) I also really enjoyed the conversation between Luke and Lucky. I'm glad that Lucky was *not* ok with Luke keeping that secret. Lucky and Sarah, though, were beyond icky. Yucky, even. Seriously icky and majorly yucky. Lucky and Yucky. Yuck. But, the best part of all of that was Tony and Luke. And their matching haircuts. ;-) And Tony is totally cracked -- he honestly thinks that he would have done something different if he had known? Please, get real. And, why should it matter? He was screwing around on his wife and yet if he knew his mistress was his step-daughter he would have miraculously grown a conscience and put a stop to the whole thing? Gimme a break. I am kind of enjoying the deconstruction of Tony, though. He's more interesting this way than he has been since he was listening to Maxie's heart pound in BJ's chest. He was certainly asking to get klobbered yesterday, though. And he's doubly cracked if he thinks he can take Luke. Taiyin "Been held-up at gun point by your mother lately?" -- AJ to Ned - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:48:50 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one Spoilers for the week of Feb 16 Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > > > For The Week Of February 16 - 20 Despite Lucky's best efforts, Liz is afraid to tell him all the details about the attack. Helena advises Nikolas not to trust either Luke or Stefan where Laura is concerned. And despite Stefan's warnings that Helena should not be taken seriously, it is Stefan's own actions that convince Nikolas that it is Helena who is telling the truth. Carly is warned to be careful of Edward ... by Jason. Amy discovers something which could foil Alan's chance to stay out of trouble. With some encouragement from Helena, Alexis maneuvers Katherine into making a purchase. Ned and Alexis heightened their relationship. Robin is getting very uncomfortable with the closeness developing between Jason, baby Michael and Carly. Mac almost loses his cool with Robin. The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after Sarah convinces them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending so much time on the island. As a reward for doing something nice, Keesha rewards AJ. Carly and her son help Jason out of a difficult situation, while Robin frets over Jason's growing attachment to Michael and Carly. Two men vie for the attention of Dara, in the elevator. Felicia teaches Mac how to kiss like James. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- You're Going to Love These Days Monday After sharing a very special night, Ned & Alexis consummate their relationship. Helena warns Nikolas about Stefan. The aftermath of Liz's attack will affect several people. Tuesday An appeal is made on Justus' behalf, by Keesha. Wednesday Sarah finally gets gutsy. Alan is caught popping pills, by Amy. Mac gets a lesson in kissing from Felicia. Thursday Liz confides in Lucky, and tells him everything. Friday Luke is issued a warning by Bobbie. Coming Soon Carly learns that Robin knows the truth about her son. Tess' plan is uncovered by Mac. A major change occurs with Jason. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:50:38 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers Part two More spoilers Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Love Is In The Air Helena continues to use Alexis to try to bring down Stefan and regain control of the Cassadine dynasty. After planting seeds in Stefan's mind so he will think about Laura, Helena demands that Alexis get Katherine to buy a stone bench for Wyndemere. Helena is pleased with Alexis' work, and says that more assignments await her. Fortunately for Alexis, Ned manages to get her mind off Helena when he comes to her hotel room to celebrate Valentine's Day. Ned's gift is a sound machine that he says will "take" her anywhere she wants to go. Alexis chooses wherever there is no telephone, fax or family. After sampling the machine's offerings, Alexis tells Ned that they are in a tropical rain forest. They kiss passionately, and make love for the first time. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Could There Be Someone New For Robin When a jealous Sarah snidely tells the Quartermaines how much time Emily is spending with Nikolas, helping him learn to talk again, the Q's put their foot down. All seems to be going Sarah's way - until Emily seeks advice from Robin. "The Quartermaines tell Emily she can't go to see Nikolas anymore, and Emily is very upset," explains Kimberly McCullough (Robin). "While trying to comfort her, Robin says, "Do you think Nikolas will work with me?" Emily says she doesn't know, but she can try." Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask him if he'll work with her instead of with Emily. While Robin is explaining to Katherine why she's come, Stefan overhears and tells Robin that Nikolas is not in need of any outside assistance. Never one to be intimated, Robin tells Stefan that she'll wait for Nikolas to return from his horseback riding to ask him herself. Upon Nikolas' return, Stefan is surprised to see the young man's response to Robin. And while Nikolas is reluctant at first, he agrees to give it a shot. Meanwhile, Robin is dealing with her unresolved feelings for Jason. Witnessing Jason's growing attachment to Michael, she worries how he will feel ultimately if he must give up the baby. Robin is also uncomfortable with Carly and Jason's growing intimacy as they share the responsibility of a child. "It concerns Robin that Jason is living with a woman who is basically a liar," McCullough adds. "It's a very strange situation when your ex-boyfriend is living with someone everyone thinks he cheated on you for." - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:52:43 -0800 (PST) From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one At 12:48 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >Spoilers for the week of Feb 16 > Jamila >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E >> > >> > The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after Sarah convinces >them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending so much time on >the island. Wow, Sarah has a sneaky backbone after all. I was beginning to think she wasn't a real Webber. >Carly learns that Robin knows the truth about her son. Hmmmm. I thought they'd pretty much resolved that at the christening party. Guess not. Thanks, Jamila! - --kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:59:16 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: PC: spoilers Spoilers for the week of Feb 16 Jamila S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- For The Week Of February 16 - 20 Rex confronts Eve, disguised as Danielle, but Scott comes to her rescue just in time. After Rex is arrested, Lucy finds out that he gave her a dose of a slow-acting deadly poison just in case married life didn't work out. Lucy makes a big decision and then takes a turn for the worse, while the interns race to come up with the antidote. An old friend comes to see Lucy. Grace comes to a realization. Matt tells Ellen he isn't who he seems to be. Hoping to get more dirt on Matt, Chris "borrows" Matt's apartment keys and gets more than he expected. In a last-ditch attempt to get Rex to cough up a cure for Lucy, Kevin enlists the aid of some creepy crawlers. Kevin devises a plan to beat Rex at his own game. Scott makes his escape and shares a close moment with Serena. Ellen is shocked by Matt's reaction to an unexpected visitor. Chris continues to invade Matt's privacy and does something that disturbs Matt greatly. Grace is suspicious but Ellen covers for Matt. Katherine provides some use information to Kevin who taps into his ''ryan-esque side'' to square off with Rex and may actually give Rex a run for his money and and the scare of his life. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- You're Going to Love These Days Monday Lucy learns that Rex's treachery has only just begun. Chris convinces Ellen to take Matt to the hospital. Tuesday Karen finds out about Eve and Scott's budding romance. Ellen presses Matt for the truth. Wednesday No info yet. Thursaday No info yet. Friday No info yet. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 01:58:59 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Lizzie S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > Despite Lucky's best efforts, Liz is afraid to tell him all the details about the attack. I heard some speculation in one of that Chatrooms that Tony is accused then acquitted of this crime. Would anyone like to place bets? Do you think it will turn out to be someone with character connections or will it be a virtual nobody? I guess the crucial question is do we think that Lizzie was raped? Personally I do. I guess we will find out this week. Jamila - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:09:06 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one - -Cagey wrote >At 12:48 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >>Spoilers for the week of Feb 16 >> Jamila >>S >>P >>O >>I >>L >>E >>R >> >>S >>P >>A >>C >>E >>> >> >>> > >> The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after >Sarah convinces >>them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending >so much time on >>the island. > >Wow, Sarah has a sneaky backbone after all. I was >beginning to think she wasn't a real Webber. > > Cagey I am beginning to really dislike Sarah. At the start I thought that she was OK. Now I think that she is turning into a bitch. I mean look at the way she used Lucky. She invited him to the dance, then she talked about Nikolas the entire time. Now, this stunt with Emily is really mean. I don't now if Sarah realizes this, but Nik doesn't really have any friends. Is she willing to make him lose Emily just because she is jealous? If she really cared about him she would be supportive. Also, Em and Nik have been friends for much longer than Sarah and Nik. I wonder if Em and Nik will find out what Sarah's real motives are. Oh yeah. I have a question. the spoilers say that Sarah does this Emily thing on Wednesday. If Liz has been attacked in the park, shouldn't Sarah be concerned enough for her sister to forget about Nik for at least 24 hours. Jamila - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:20:14 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Robin and Nik I wrote >More spoilers > Jamila >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E >> >> >> >> > > > > > >Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask him >if he'll work with her instead of with Emily. Stefan overhears and tells Robin that Nikolas is not in need of any outside assistance. Robin tells Stefan that she'll wait for Nikolas to return from his horseback riding to ask him herself. Stefan is surprised to see the young man's response to Robin. And while Nikolas is reluctant at first, >he agrees to give it a shot. God I hate the idea of Robin and Nik. I hate the idea of Robin period. The way she has been acting with Jason lately just drives me crazy. Where does she get off telling him what to do. I personally wouldn't mind if TPTB wrote Robin off the show. I gag every time I think of a relationship between Robin and Nik. Their characters seem so uncompatible. God, I think I am going to throw up. Anyway, Why would Mac think that The Cassadines would be an improvement over Stone and Jason. Will we have to go through that entire Mac not improving scenario all over again. That would be so lame. My sister just pointed out that Nikolas is a few years younger than Robin. She is what 19 now, and he is 16. If they had sex Robin could go to jail. Jamila > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:28:09 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Jerry This is just rumor R U M O R S P A C E > > >> I heard that Jerry Jacks has something to do with this Tess and James thing. Maybe that is why Ashley is suddenly in the picture. Could she have something to do with it also. Hhmmmm I wonder........Besides, Jax needs a story line other than hovering around Brenda 24-7. Jamila - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 02:34:16 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Sonny What is the word on Maurice? I heard he was coming back to do a few episodes. How will they work that out. I thought that he was on the run. If he does come back I will not want to see the show down between him and Brenda. I am sorry if this message required spoiler space. Jamila - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:39:54 -0800 From: Mike Boychuk Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny Finaly something that I can respond to because I've been following this one religiously. Cindi Rineheart(Northwest Afternoon, anyone else even in the area to get it?) She said he was in discussion with the producer for coming for a few weeks. But she had Steve Burton on last Wednesday who said he came back to do the prime time episode with him but as far as he knows "Maurice is happy being fat and hairy at home." Direct quote. Shame isnt it? Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:30:23 -0500 From: "Donald K Gooden" Subject: GH/PC: Lucky and Lizzie S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > Today's episode was powerful. It was just wow. I can't remember the name of the actress that plays Lizzie, but she did a really good job. I must also commend Jonathan on his job today. I am glad that Lucky is going to be supporting Liz in this story line. I mean today is the first time that I have actually liked Lucky. In all that Cassadine vs. Spencer Nik vs. Lucky stuff, Nik IMHO was always in the right. Lucky used to always act like an ass. Now that they have him working on a non-Cassadine story he is actually a decent guy. I couldn't believe it when Lucky started to cry today. I have never seen that side of him. He was acting so supportive and protective. I will agree with Luke that Luke is maturing very nicely. All I have to say is Lucky is the man. I can't wait till this whole story comes to light. I know that it is to soon being as it just happened. Still, it will be one of the better stories that has happened in the recent past. I am going to go and re-watch the episode. I will have more to say later. Jamila - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:06:14 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Rules Amendment Because of an unfortunate incident there has been a need to make a minor amendment the list rules: From now on anything posted to the list is not to be shared/sent/forwarded elsewhere without the author's express written consent. Apologies to everyone for not having this in the rules to being with. It has been added to the list rules on the web page (http://www.taiyin.net/lists/), as well as in the greeting message. Taiyin, Co-Listmom Ultimate GH/PC Links: http://www.taiyin.net/links/ K&L's Lighthouse: http://www.taiyin.net/lighthouse/ Kevin's Couch: http://www.taiyin.net/couch/ - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:59:40 -0800 (PST) From: Cagey Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN stuff Technically, I suppose that info about actors who are returning for particular days or episodes is a spoiler, and should be marked as such. Please remember to include spoiler space. Also, I'd like to remind everybody on the GH/PC list who is not on the K&L list (as so hasn't already heard this) that you shouldn't forward other people's posts without the express consent of the original author--that includes spoiler info that they might provide. It's common netiquette, and we have since incorporated it into the list rules, which means violations will bring consequences. Many thanks, - --Cagey, Nasty Evil List Step Mom (who has a very nice stepmom, thank you very much ) - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: Cagey Subject: Re: GH/PC: ADMIN: Rules Amendment ListMoms who, though practically on different sides of the country, think and post the same thing at the same time, are scary, don't you think? ;) - --kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:38:57 PST From: "Julie Saker" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lizzie jamila wrote: >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E >> >> >> >I heard some speculation in one of that Chatrooms that Tony is accused then >acquitted of this crime. oh, YUCK. we all know tony's a bit over the edge these days, but to think that he would be capable of RAPING a fifteen-year-old? i don't THINK so. and we'll probably get another damn trial out of it. >Would anyone like to place bets? Do you think it >will turn out to be someone with character connections or will it be a >virtual nobody? i'm going with the virtual nobody. it was portrayed so viciously, i can't think of any existing character they would want to make capable of doing something that horrible, and that irredeemable. (i know, can we say "luke"? more on that in my next post...) >I guess the crucial question is do we think that Lizzie was >raped? Personally I do. I guess we will find out this week. oh absolutely. no doubt about that one. in MY opinion anyway! :) julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:51:54 PST From: "Julie Saker" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky and Lizzie (SPEC included, way down) jamila wrote: > Today's episode was powerful. It was just wow. I can't remember the name >of the actress that plays Lizzie, but she did a really good job. i totally agree. i've always liked lizzie as an actress (at least in comparison to sarah--YUCK!), but her character has been more than a tad grating. a bit too one-dimensional (like lark on pc, for that matter.) but since the day she and audrey had their heart-to-heart at the hospital, and she came back positively RADIANT after successfully asking lucky to the dance, i've REALLY begun to like her. and this whole attack thing--she was just great, in my opinion. >I must also commend Jonathan on his job today. this is the part that really surprised me. i've NEVER liked lucky. he's always been WAY too much of a brat for my taste. but i was practically cheering him on in friday and monday's eps. i loved when he told off sarah and went looking for lizzie, and he was just WONDERFUL with her after he found her. (i was a little annoyed at him leaving her alone--after all, he could have left a message for bobbie to call him the SECOND she got out of surgery--but that's just quibbling. i was mostly pissed because that gave her the opportunity to take a shower, which i was hoping she'd be smarter than to do. but oh well...) all in all, lucky was great, and i was pleased to see a bit of a character turnaround on his part. i think this is going to rock his world in a BIG way...particularly if it goes where i suspect it's going. > I can't wait till this whole story comes to light. I know that it is to >soon being as it just happened. Still, it will be one of the better stories >that has happened in the recent past. not really a spoiler, more speculation, but still... s p a c e b e l o w j u s t i n c a s e good enough. ok, so i'm QUITE convinced by now, based on the previews they've shown, that the new tv guide chat guy was WAY wrong (he needs some new sources, NOW. he is no logan, that's for sure...), and that they are INDEED going to tackle the luke/laura rape thing. (i think THAT would be enough to lure genie back, don't you? :) and i for one can hardly wait. i know i said before that i think it's kind of irrelevant at this point, after they've been married for so long--and i do still believe that--but i didn't really realize that lucky didn't know. WOW is that going to KILL him. i'm not sure the relationship between luke and lucky will ever recover from that shock, unless luke finally does some serious soul-searching...which should be AWESOME to watch. i can't wait! yeah for gh! at last...something non-brenda-related to watch! julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:56:51 PST From: "Julie Saker" Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers Part two jamila wrote: >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E >> >> >> >> > > > >When a jealous Sarah snidely tells the Quartermaines how much time Emily is >spending with Nikolas, helping him learn to talk again, the Q's put their >foot down. they couldn't come up with anything better than THIS? puh-LEEZE. haven't we seen, in the past few weeks, how much effect the q's "putting their foot down" has on emily? i don't believe for a second that she would let that stop her from helping nik. >All seems to be going Sarah's way - until Emily seeks advice from >Robin. haven't they only had one or two scenes together, EVER? i think tptb are forcing this nik/robin thing WAY too hard... >Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask him >if he'll work with her instead of with Emily. i'm sorry, but this is NOT helping robin's little-miss-fix-it image. julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:01:35 PST From: "Julie Saker" Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik jamila wrote: >>S >>P >>O >>I >>L >>E >>R >> >>S >>P >>A >>C >>E >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >God I hate the idea of Robin and Nik. My sister just >pointed out that Nikolas is a few years younger than Robin. She is what 19 >now, and he is 16. If they had sex Robin could go to jail. good point, but...unless nik suddenly turns out to be hiv+, i don't see any circumstance, EVER, under which robin would have sex with him anyway. not technically anyway, which is all that matters for statutory rape. but i'm with you on hating the whole idea of the two of them anyway. this whole set-up is ridiculous. why on earth would she have introduced herself to him in the hospital, and WHY would she go see him now??? it makes no sense... julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:04:41 PST From: "Julie Saker" Subject: GH/PC: PC--the END all i can say is HALLELUJAH that the rex thing is OVER! well, except for lucy and the poison. but at least the ridiculous charade nonsense is over and done with. i was a little annoyed at the sudden way they all seemed to finally buy a clue--lucy realizing all of a sudden that her purse was bugged, and scotty finally growing a brain and brinking conklin in on it...but you know what? i'm SO GLAD IT'S OVER that i don't even care! on to bigger and better things...i hope! julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ End of port-charles-digest V1 #24 *********************************