From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #204 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Monday, December 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 204 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 98 23:52:39 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: RAPTUS: Fwd: (Carol C Ferguson): Holiday Precautions...Please Read (fwd) Pass it on..... On Dec 9, BaBette Z. Bechtold wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: seaseafergie@juno.com (Carol C Ferguson) To: thebechtolds@juno.com, Sussiedee@aol.com, pmfergie@eoni.com,auntiedaphne@juno.com, pearlypooh@juno.com, Tacker22@aol.com,GOOFTRUUP@aol.com Subject: Holiday Precautions...Please Read Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:48:43 -0800 Message-ID: <19981209.125107.-237705.1.seaseafergie@juno.com> This was sent to me and I thought you would be interested to read it as well. ************* On Inside Edition there was an article that is of interest to all women. There are several new scams to abduct women. In one, a man comes up to a woman in a Mall or Shopping Center and asks if she likes Pizza. When she says she does, he offers her $100.00 to shoot a commercial for Pizza, but they need to go outside where the lighting is better. When the woman goes out of the mall she is abducted and assaulted. Another ploy is a very nicely dressed man asks a woman if she would be in a Public Service announcement to discourage drug use. The man explains that they don't want professional actors or celebrities they want the average mother to do this. Once she leaves the mall she is a victim. The third ploy, and the most successful, a very frantic man comes running in and asks a woman to please help him, his baby is not breathing. She runs out of the mall following him and also becomes a victim. These have been happening in well lit parking areas, in daylight as well as night time, all over the country. The abductor usually uses a van to abduct the woman. 'Inside Edition' set up a test in a Mall and 10 out of 15 women went out of the Mall on the Pizza and the PSA scam. And all of them went out of the Mall on baby scam. Please pass this along to your friends and family as now that it has been shown on nationwide TV there are bound to be copycats of this. The third one, I think, is the scariest. You might resist pizza or becoming a commercial celebrity...but who would be able to resist a frantic father asking for help for his child? I was going to pass this on to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, associates, etc., you may want to pass it on to them, as well. Cynthia Casas Jr. Communications Associate THE WORLD BANK - EXT Internal Communications tel: 202-458-1208 fax: 202-522-2638 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 98 09:20:06 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Impeachment: Latest Voting Intentions (fwd) On Dec 11, Exegesis wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] _________________________________________________ Exegesis A Compass For Moral Excellence Published Worldwide From Washington http://www.sm.org/exegesis December 10, 1998 ____________________________________________________ The Impeachment Of William Jefferson Clinton Here is our latest information. It's up to all of us. The Congress is at (202) 225 3121 Republicans Who Plan To Vote Against Impeachment Chris Shays (CT) 202-225-5541 Mark Souder (IN) 202-225-4436 Amo Houghton (NY) 202-225-3161 Peter King (NY) 202-225-7896 Jack Quinn (NY) 202-225-3306 Republicans Who May Vote Against Impeachment Jay Dickey (AR) 202-225-3772 Jim Kolbe (AZ) 202-225 2542 Tom Campbell (R-CA) 202-225-2631 Steve Horn (CA) 202-225 6676 Nancy Johnson (CT) 202-225 4476 Mike Castle (DE) 202-225-4165 Lincoln Diaz-Balart (FL) 202-225-4211 Clay Shaw (FL) 202-225-3026 Saxby Chambliss (GA) 202-225 6531 John Porter (IL) 202-225-4835 Jim Bunning (KY) 202-225 3465 (plans to abstain) Wayne Gilchrest (MD) 202-225-5311 Connie Morella (MD) 202-225-5341 Bob Franks (NJ) 202-225-5361 =46rank LoBiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572 Marge Roukema (R-NJ) 202-225-4465 Jim Saxton (R-NJ) 202-225-4765 Heather Wilson (NM) 202-225-6316 Michael Forbes (NY) 202-225-3826 Benjamin Gilman (NY) 202-225-3776 Sue Kelly (NY) 202-225-5441 Rick Lazio (NY) 202-225 3335 John McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611 David Hobson (OH) 202-225-4324 Bob Ney (OH) 202-225-6265 Jon Fox (PA) 202-225-6111 Scott Klug (WI) 202-225 2906 Democrats Who Plan To Vote For Impeachment Gene Taylor (MS) 202-225-5772 Ralph Hall (TX) 202-225-6673 Virgil Goode (VA) 202-225-4711 Democrats Who May Vote For Impeachment Bud Cramer (AL) 202-225-4801 Gary Condit (CA) 202-225-6131 Carolyn Maloney (D-CT) 202-225-7944 Leonard Boswell (D-IA) 202-225-3806 Lee Hamilton (D-IN) 202-225-5315 Tim Roemer (D-IN) 202-225-3915 Chris John (LA) 202-225-2031 Pat Danner (MO) 202-225-7041 Mike McIntyre (NC) 202-225-2731 Jim Traficant (OH) 202-225-5261 Paul McHale (PA) 202-225-6411 John Murtha (D-PA) 202-225-2065 John Spratt (D-SC) 202-225-5501 Bart Gordon (D-TN) 202-225-4231 Charles Stenholm (TX) 202-225-6605 James Moran (D-VA) 202-225-4376 Jay Johnson (D-WI) 202-225-5665 Your move. Let me know as you succeed in changing minds! =87 Steve Myers = =D7 Editor _________________________________________________ =A9 Exegesis 1998 Post Office Box 789, McLean, Virginia 22101, USA Please Visit our Web Page at http://www.sm.org _________________________________________________ We welcome your letters to the editor. Please write to editor@sm.org Exegesis http://www.sm.org/exegesis To subscribe or to unsubscribe an old address on our list, please visit http://www.sm.org/exegesis/subscribe.html ___________________________________________________ ExTel IS YOUR PHONE BILL TO HIGH? See all our services at http://ld.net/?sm.org HUGE SAVINGS ON YOUR PHONE BILL! US domestic calls now just 7.5 cents a minute =46rom the US, call the UK for just 6.9 cents a minute! 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Banks also would have t= >o >determine customers' normal pattern of transactions and report any >"suspicious'' transactions to law enforcement authorities. > >The proposal, published Monday in the Federal Register, is designed to >combat money laundering techniques used by drug traffickers and other >criminals to hide illegal profits. Laundering includes the use of wire >transfers and bank drafts as well as "smurfing,'' the practice of breakin= >g >down transactions into smaller amounts that don't have to be reported und= >er >banking laws. > >The torrent of e-mail, first reported in The Wall Street Journal Thursday= >, >came as the 90-day public comment period opened for the proposal. > >It reflects growing anxiety among consumers about banks' use of personal >financial data =97 a concern that prompted a top federal regulator to war= >n the >banking industry this spring that it needs to protect customers' privacy. > >Someone from Texas wrote, "I am appalled at even the suggestion of such a= >n >intrusion into our personal lives by the federal government.'' > >In another message, a Florida doctor told the regulators: "Next you'll ... >be implanting (an electronic) chip in newborns at birth so they can be >scanned as they walk in any banks as an adult.'' > >FDIC spokesman David Barr said the agency had received a staggering 2,700 >e-mails and letters opposing the proposal. > >At least some of the angry messages appear to have been inspired by >anti-government groups claiming the proposed rules are part of a federal >conspiracy aimed at limiting people's constitutional rights, according to >the Journal and people close to the situation. > >Regulators and banking industry officials, who worked together on the new >rules, have taken pains to reassure consumers that their privacy would be >protected under the changes. > >"Because of privacy concerns, it is the ... expectation that banks would >obtain only that information that is necessary to comply with the rule, a= >nd >would limit the use of this information to that purpose,'' the Office of = >the >Comptroller of the Currency, which regulates nationally chartered banks, >said in a statement. > >John Byrne, senior counsel of the American Bankers Association, said, "Jo= >e >Q. Citizen needs to recognize that there's nothing for him or her to worr= >y >about.'' > >comments@foxnews.com >=A9 1998, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. > >-----Original Message----- >From: W.G.E.N. [mailto:idzrus@earthlink.net] >Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 6:30 PM >To: idzrus@earthlink.net >Subject: NID:"KYC" Feds being deluged with Email protest > > >Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless: >1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or >2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true. > >Reply to: > > To subscribe to the free Scan This News newsletter, send a message to > and type "subscribe scan" in the BODY. > Or, to be removed type "unsubscribe scan" in the message BODY. > For additional instructions see www.efga.org/about/maillist.html >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Scan This News" is Sponsored by S.C.A.N. > Host of the "FIGHT THE FINGERPRINT!" web page: > www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:15:10 -0600 From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Democrats Explictly ignore 10th Amendment Watching the House Judiciary commitee debate on the censure resolution put forth by the Democrats, I heard seveal times words to the effect "Since the Constitution does not prohibit (Censure of the President) we can do it". One, Rep Scott I think, went so far as to say, "it (the Constitution) says we can do *anything we want* to promote the General Welfare". What the Constitution really says, (Art I Sec. 8) "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" I read this to mean they can lay and collect taxes in order to pay debts and provide for defense and the general welfare and *for no other purposes* not that they can do "anything they want" even in the listed areas. Hmm, this means they can't tax something in order to regulate it, unless they also have the power to regulate it *and* doing so promotes the general welfare. However, as we know, this and all other powers are subject to the "further declaratory and restrictive clauses" (quoting the BoR "preamble") of the Bill of Rights, including(Amendment X): "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." I also found it amusing, in an ironic sort of way, to hear so many, from both sides of the podium, spouting piously about "supporting and defending" the Constitution, and their reverance for that document, considering what havoc they have wrought upon it, most especially upon the 2nd, 4th,...ah hell in reviewing the first 10 amendments, they've raped parts of all of them, save perhaps the third. Dennis J. Sylvester Captain USAFR(ret) - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 98 04:13:46 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SLICK: Impeachment Call-In for all the marbles (fwd) On Dec 13, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Below is a list of all the fence sitters. Do yourself a favor and tell them what they need to know, but start with your own Congressman's local office. n a message dated 98-12-11 09:46:56 EST, gra@inetport.com writes: << From Eagle Forum, Impeachment Congressional for Phone Numbers You can reach Members through the Capitol Switchboard at 202/225-3121 or toll-free at 1-877-866-6836 (Direct dial phone number follows each Member's name) Republicans Who Have Said They Will Vote Against Impeachment Amo Houghton (R-NY) 202-225-3161 Peter King (R-NY) 202-225-7896 Jack Quinn (R-NY) 202-225-3306 Chris Shays (R-CT) 202-225-5541 Mark Souder (R-IN) 202-225-4436 Republican Members Who Might Vote Against Impeachment Brian Bilbray (R-CA) 202-225-2040 Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY) 202-225-3665 Tom Campbell (R-CA) 202-225-2631 Michael Castle (R-DE) 202-225-4165 Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL) 202-225-4211 Jay Dickey (R-AR) 202-225-3772 Michael Forbes (R-NY) 202-225-3826 Jon Fox (R-PA) 202-225-6111 Bob Franks (R-NJ) 202-225-5361 Greg Ganske (R-IA) 202-225-4426 Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) 202-225-5311 Ben Gilman (R-NY) 202-225-3776 David Hobson (R-OH) 202-225-4324 Sue Kelly (R-NY) 202-225-5441 Ray LaHood (R-IL) 202-225-6201 Steve LaTourette (R-OH) 202-225-5731 Jim Leach (R-IA) 202-225-6576 Frank LoBiondo (R-NJ) 202-225-6572 John McHugh (R-NY) 202-225-4611 Constance Morella (R-MD) 202-225-5341 Bob Ney (R-OH) 202-225-6265 John Porter (R-IL) 202-225-4835 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) 202-225-3931 Marge Roukema (R-NJ) 202-225-4465 Jim Saxton (R-NJ) 202-225-4765 Clay Shaw (R-FL) 202-225-3026 John Shimkus (R-IL) 202-225-5271 Joe Skeen (R-NM) 202-225-2365 W.J. "Billy" Tauzin (R-LA) 202-225-4031 James Walsh (R-NY) 202-225-3701 Zach Wamp (R-TN) 202-225-3271 Heather Wilson (R-NM) 202-225-6316 Democrat Members Who Might Vote For Impeachment Leonard Boswell (D-IA) 202-225-3806 Gary Condit (D-CA) 202-225-6131 Bud Cramer (D-AL) 202-225-4801 Pat Danner (D-MO) 202-225-7041 Virgil Goode (D-VA) 202-225-4711 Bart Gordon (D-TN) 202-225-4231 Ralph Hall (D-TX) 202-225-6673 Lee Hamilton (D-IN) 202-225-5315 Chris John (D-LA) 202-225-2031 Jay Johnson (D-WI) 202-225-5665 Carolyn Maloney (D-CT) 202-225-7944 Paul McHale (D-PA) 202-225-6411 Mike McIntyre (D-NC) 202-225-2731 James Moran (D-VA) 202-225-4376 John Murtha (D-PA) 202-225-2065 Tim Roemer (D-IN) 202-225-3915 John Spratt (D-SC) 202-225-5501 Charles Stenholm (D-TX) 202-225-6605 Gene Taylor (D-MS) 202-225-5772 James Traficant (D-OH) 202-225-5261 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Eagle Forum * P.O. Box 618 * Alton, IL 62002 Office: 618-462-5415 * Fax: 618-462-8909 ________________________________________________________________________ Remember, American citizens have the Constitutional rights of equal justice and of impeachment. The Congress has a Constitutional duty to carry out a justified impeachment Impeachment protects citizens from someone who is unfit for office. A Congressional vote against a justified impeachment is a vote to destroy our system of equal justice. Congressmen have a Constitutional duty to protect our system of equal justice, not destroy it. Coaliton for Equal Justice >> From: gra@inetport.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:35:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: [UWSA] Impeachment Call-In for all the marbles With the House vote set for next week, this is now for all the marbles - A constitutional based equal justice system or a country run by criminals with no rights for citizens. Please call your Congressman and as many of those listed below as often as possible and demand that Clinton be impeached. Thanks to all who participated in past call-in supporting equal justice, the rule of law and freedom. There can be no doubt now after Clinon's continued perjury and obstruction of justice in his 81 answers to the Judiciary committee (see articles below) and the Judiciary Committee hearings , that Clinton and his Democrat Party are willing to tear down this country's system of equal justice and to put at risk, freedom around the world, in order to protect a corrupt president, a corrupt government and a corrupt political party. (There are now 14 high level DNC employess on trial, pleaded, or being investigated - including John Chung, Charlie Trie, and Maria Tsia)) Clinton and the Democrats are illegally stealing our right to remove an unfit President, and our right to have a system of equal justice for all. We refuse to give up our system of equal justice and have it replaced with an O.J. type of justice which has no rules for the elite insiders, such as the system that now exists in China. >From Eagle Forum, Impeachment Congressional for Phone Numbers You can reach Members through the Capitol Switchboard at 202/225-3121 or toll-free at 1-877-866-6836 (Direct dial phone number follows each Member's name) Republicans Who Have Said They Will Vote Against Impeachment Amo Houghton (R-NY) 202-225-3161 Peter King (R-NY) 202-225-7896 Jack Quinn (R-NY) 202-225-3306 Chris Shays (R-CT) 202-225-5541 Mark Souder (R-IN) 202-225-4436 Republican Members Who Might Vote Against Impeachment Brian Bilbray (R-CA) 202-225-2040 Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY) 202-225-3665 Tom Campbell (R-CA) 202-225-2631 Michael Castle (R-DE) 202-225-4165 Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL) 202-225-4211 Jay Dickey (R-AR) 202-225-3772 Michael Forbes (R-NY) 202-225-3826 Jon Fox (R-PA) 202-225-6111 Bob Franks (R-NJ) 202-225-5361 Greg Ganske (R-IA) 202-225-4426 Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD) 202-225-5311 Ben Gilman (R-NY) 202-225-3776 David Hobson (R-OH) 202-225-4324 Sue Kelly (R-NY) 202-225-5441 Ray LaHood (R-IL) 202-225-6201 Steve LaTourette (R-OH) 202-225-5731 Jim Leach (R-IA) 202-225-6576 Frank LoBiondo (R-NJ) 202-225-6572 John McHugh (R-NY) 202-225-4611 Constance Morella (R-MD) 202-225-5341 Bob Ney (R-OH) 202-225-6265 John Porter (R-IL) 202-225-4835 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) 202-225-3931 Marge Roukema (R-NJ) 202-225-4465 Jim Saxton (R-NJ) 202-225-4765 Clay Shaw (R-FL) 202-225-3026 John Shimkus (R-IL) 202-225-5271 Joe Skeen (R-NM) 202-225-2365 W.J. "Billy" Tauzin (R-LA) 202-225-4031 James Walsh (R-NY) 202-225-3701 Zach Wamp (R-TN) 202-225-3271 Heather Wilson (R-NM) 202-225-6316 Democrat Members Who Might Vote For Impeachment Leonard Boswell (D-IA) 202-225-3806 Gary Condit (D-CA) 202-225-6131 Bud Cramer (D-AL) 202-225-4801 Pat Danner (D-MO) 202-225-7041 Virgil Goode (D-VA) 202-225-4711 Bart Gordon (D-TN) 202-225-4231 Ralph Hall (D-TX) 202-225-6673 Lee Hamilton (D-IN) 202-225-5315 Chris John (D-LA) 202-225-2031 Jay Johnson (D-WI) 202-225-5665 Carolyn Maloney (D-CT) 202-225-7944 Paul McHale (D-PA) 202-225-6411 Mike McIntyre (D-NC) 202-225-2731 James Moran (D-VA) 202-225-4376 John Murtha (D-PA) 202-225-2065 Tim Roemer (D-IN) 202-225-3915 John Spratt (D-SC) 202-225-5501 Charles Stenholm (D-TX) 202-225-6605 Gene Taylor (D-MS) 202-225-5772 James Traficant (D-OH) 202-225-5261 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Eagle Forum * P.O. Box 618 * Alton, IL 62002 Office: 618-462-5415 * Fax: 618-462-8909 ________________________________________________________________________ Remember, American citizens have the Constitutional rights of equal justice and of impeachment. The Congress has a Constitutional duty to carry out a justified impeachment Impeachment protects citizens from someone who is unfit for office. A Congressional vote against a justified impeachment is a vote to destroy our system of equal justice. Congressmen have a Constitutional duty to protect our system of equal justice, not destroy it. Coaliton for Equal Justice =================================================================== uwsa@uwsa.com is an unmoderated mail list to discuss general government topics. To join or leave this list send mail to majordomo@uwsa.com TO: majordomo@uwsa.com Subject: - ---------------------------------------- (un)subscribe uwsa Visit our world wide web site at http://www.uwsa.com Support UWSA.COM at http://www.uwsa.com/UWSAintro.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:07:40 -0600 (CST) From: Paul M Watson Subject: "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" on HBO! (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:05:05 -0600 From: ghanka@bindview.com Reply-To: texas-gun-owners@Mailing-List.net To: texas-gun-owners@Mailing-List.net Subject: "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" on HBO! Posted to texas-gun-owners by ghanka@bindview.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ HBO-S is airing "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" at the following times: Saturday 12/12/98 9:45 PM Monday 12/14/98 2:30 PM Tuesday 12/15/98 3:45 AM ...and probably additional times in the future. HBO-S is channel 912 on DirecTV/USSB. Greg Hanka - -- For help with Majordomo commands, send a message to majordomo@mailing-list.net with the word help in the message body. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 09:50:50 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Fwd: Important Information (fwd) On Dec 14, CCHOL@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From: PIPPEN50@aol.com Subject: Important Information Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:23:26 EST Notice that it says in two weeks. I have read that we have until March. However, I don't trust the FCC or anyone involved. Hillary is actively involved in this. She said that we have to much access to others of like mind and the Internet needs to be monitored. This would be a good start. I would have to get off the Internet completely and I'm sure many others would, too. Pass this one to everyone we know. They are trying to sneak it through while everyone is occupied with Christmas and the impeachment hearings. Neta Important Information There is a new bill in US Congress that will be affecting all Internet Users. You might want to read this and pass it on with a prayer. CNN stated that the Government would in two weeks time decide to allow or not allow a Charge to your (OUR) phone bill equal to a long distance call each time you access the Internet. Think about that for a minute, and how it would effect each and every one of us. Please visit the following URL and fill out the necessary form! The address is http://www.house.gov/writerep If EACH one of us, forward this message on to others in a hurry, we may be able to prevent this injustice from happening! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:14:51 -0800 From: Jack Perrine Subject: Re: Fratrum: Fwd: Important Information (fwd) At 09:50 AM 12/14/98 PST, you wrote: >On Dec 14, CCHOL@aol.com wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > >From: PIPPEN50@aol.com >Subject: Important Information >Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:23:26 EST > >Notice that it says in two weeks. I have read that we have until March. >However, I don't trust the FCC or anyone involved. Hillary is actively >involved in this. She said that we have to much access to others of like mind >and the Internet needs to be monitored. This would be a good start. I would >have to get off the Internet completely and I'm sure many others would, too. >Pass this one to everyone we know. They are trying to sneak it through while >everyone is occupied with Christmas and the impeachment hearings. >Neta > >Important Information >There is a new bill in US Congress that will be affecting all Internet >Users. You might want to read this and pass it on with a prayer. CNN >stated that the Government would in two weeks time decide to allow or >not allow a Charge to your (OUR) phone bill equal to a long distance >call each time you access the Internet. I keep reading this phrase: "A charge equal to a long distance call....." but I have no idea what it means...... A long distance call of a minute to the next area code for a few cents / a long distance call to New York that lasts for a minute or so / Or a very expensive call to down town Los Angeles to a governmental agency where one ends up on hold for eons.....or so it seems / a long .....long distance call to a loved one that lasts and lasts Does anyone have any idea what it means in terms of actual costs And since many of the cable companies are giving much rather good rates and very high bandwith.......as long as there is only one active computer in a houshold.....why not just talk to the internet via a cable modem and forget the phone company Jack Jack >Think about that for a minute, and how it would effect each and every one >of us. >Please visit the following URL and fill out the necessary form! The >address is >http://www.house.gov/writerep >If EACH one of us, forward this message on to others in a hurry, we may >be able to prevent this injustice from happening! > >[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > >- > > Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 -----------------| 1175 N Altadena Dr | -------------- Jack@Minerva.Com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:16:39 -0800 (PST) From: Harry Barnett Subject: Re: Fratrum: Fwd: Important Information (fwd) THIS IS A HOAX! "The federal government is NOT going to start charging for e-mail, or any other use the the internet. When you see a call to arms about this issue, disregard it." http://www.nonprofit.net/hoax/hoax.html#Famous Hoaxes Use any number of search engines to find "hoax" and this hoax is sure to be mentioned on most of the Web Pages containing information about hoaxes. Otherwise, Have a nice day Harry On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Bill Vance wrote: > Important Information > There is a new bill in US Congress that will be affecting all Internet > Users. You might want to read this and pass it on with a prayer. CNN > stated that the Government would in two weeks time decide to allow or > not allow a Charge to your (OUR) phone bill equal to a long distance > call each time you access the Internet. > Think about that for a minute, and how it would effect each and every one > of us. > Please visit the following URL and fill out the necessary form! The > address is > http://www.house.gov/writerep > If EACH one of us, forward this message on to others in a hurry, we may > be able to prevent this injustice from happening! > > [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no > weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his > hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a > on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 14:26:53 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fratrum: Fwd: Important Information (fwd) Sorry to pass along a hoax under the abv Subject: line, folks. Like they say, if you don't mess up once in a while, you ain't trying.....:-) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 16:35:55 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Fwd: Important news that needs immediate attention! (fwd) I'm going to tell them to forget Impeachment, just send him to the Guillotine! :-) On Dec 14, CCHOL@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I received the following E-mail. Pass it on to everyone that you know who is intelligent and wants Clinton impeached. This group is trying to scare people into believing that our country will fall apart if Clinton is impeached. Use their free number to call your reps. That should upset their plan. Go to their website listed and see the long list of people that they are targeting. We need to E-mail each one of these. Or you could call each one of them at the expense of this group and the People for the American Way (really un- American). Have a great day! Neta :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I put myself on one of their mailing lists. Below is what I just received. No wonder Congress is being flooded with calls. They can't buy the votes, so now they are buying the phone calls. I will use THEIR 800# to call Congress from now on. Since I am not the only one who has thought of this, their claim on # of "pro-censure" calls is also off. Dear MoveOn Petitioners, I know you're furious -- and maybe a little sad for our country. I am. The only cure for this feeling is action. Over this weekend, email may be the best way to reach Congress. As outlined on our webpage, an email version of your petition has been automatically sent to your representative. But you can do more. We've set up a special group email address to make it easy to forward a note to swing votes. The email address is: swingvotes@list.moveon.org If you send a letter to this address, we will automatically bounce it to three dozen Members of Congress on our swing list -- the ones who have email. You can see our swing member list at http://www.moveon.org/swingvotes.htm Compose an email and send it to "swingvotes@list.moveon.org" -- there is a sample letter at the bottom of this message. You will feel better, and it could make a real difference. We have one week left before a House vote on impeachment. We can turn this around. The three day call-a-thon we promoted this last Wednesday through Friday delivered 94,659 anti-impeachment calls through the 1-877-TO-MOVEON number. This isn't counting tens of thousands of direct calls made by our members. The phones on Capitol Hill are ringing off the hook. The Capitol Hill switchboard has been incredibly busy. And swing members are listening. A staff member from Speaker Elect Bob Livingston's office told me they've been swamped with pro-censure calls in the last three days -- that's us, folks. And as censure becomes the key issue in impeachment discussions, our efforts and message have received great media attention, both local and national. Because of the overwhelming success of the toll-free campaign, another organization, People For the American Way, has agreed to fund the toll-free line until the House convenes. THE 1-877-TO-MOVEON NUMBER WILL REMAIN LIVE THROUGH NEXT WEDNESDAY. The call campaign will begin again on Monday. If you can't wait, and want to make calls over the weekend, you can find instructions at http://www.moveon.org/actions.htm And as we begin the final countdown to the House vote, moveon.org has posted a live simulcast of all the comments entered in the petition drive -- all 150,000. Giving four seconds per comment, this simulcast will take an entire week to play all the comments -- from now until the House vote. If you have a Java enabled browser you can view the simulcast at: http://www.moveon.org/thepeople.htm These comments are great. They speak volumes on the diversity of our backgrounds, yet unity of our message and purpose. - -Wes. _________ This is a message from http://www.moveon.org. If you don't wish to receive any further messages, just reply and type "remove" ______________ SAMPLE EMAIL TO ALL SWING VOTES -- REMEMBER: Short personal messages are best To: swingvotes@list.moveon.org Subject: Don't impeach -- censure and move on As a leading member of the House, I ask you to show leadership and openly support the option of censure over impeachment. I am deeply concerned that a trial in the Senate will continue to divide our country. At a time of global economic uncertainly and international challenges, we must unite. We have better work to do as a nation. It's time for healing. It's time for true statesmen to lead the way. Sincerely, Wes Boyd. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #204 *************************