From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #273 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, August 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 273 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 99 10:11:48 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: [fidoguns] LSAS (fwd) On Aug 20, Michael A. Copeland wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >From another list I'm passing this along with headers intact, in case you want to follow up. I have no knowlege as to the facts in the post. - -Mike > > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:32:47 -0700 > From: Justin Tyme > Subject: Fw: [azcas_l] Gun Rights Organization {01} > Sender: Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona > To: AZRKBA@asu.edu > Reply-to: Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 > X-MSMail-priority: Normal > X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: AZRKBA@asu.edu > X-Return-Path: JustinTyme@sportsmen.net > > Hehehe. This is interesting... > > "...one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen > these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding > fathers used in the struggle for independence." -- Charles A. Beard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ronald Reck > To: Tom Takesaka ; Stacy > ; Slippery Slim ; Lance Reck > ; Mike Doyle ; ; > ; > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 11:11 PM > Subject: [azcas_l] Gun Rights Organization {01} > > > > > From: Rich Walden > > > Dear armed Americans, > > > > > > Advertising Creative Director, Jim Houck, working with the Lawyers > > > Second Amendment Society (LSAS, www.rightguide.com/Links/lsas.htm), > > > has formed a non-profit corporation for the sole purpose of giving all > > > American firearms owners, big and small, a way to strike back and > > > strike back hard against the Rights Killers. > > > After repeated attempts to work with NRA and GOA, Mr. Houck made the > > > decision, along with the LSAS, to form an elite commando-style > > > organization in order to bypass bureaucracy and time-consuming > > > political red tape and get into the fight. The NRA and GOA have a > > > role in this fight and are doing all they can and are to be credited > > > with such. But there is an overwhelming need for an operational group > > > which can strike fast, strike hard and strike without fear of > > > political reprisal. This is such a group. > > > Every dollar received will go into extremely aggressive advertising, > > > TV, print, radio, outdoor and guerilla, with a single purpose, to > > > destroy those who are tampering with 2nd Amendment freedom. This > > > campaign will not be apologetic, it will not play fair, it will hit > > > below the belt whenever the opportunity presents itself, it will not > > > take prisoners. In short, it will be very aggressive and very > > > effective. > > > There are some people out there who would like to get into the > fight, > > > but for career reasons or political reasons cannot. Here is your > > > chance. There are many who would like to get into the fight, but have > > > no way of doing so. Now you can take a swing directly at the teeth of > > > people like Chuck Schumer, impeached-President Bill Clinton, Sarah > > > Brady, you name it. > > > The campaign will be created and managed by Creative Director, Jim > > > Houck, a career advertising professional who has done work for > > > bluechip clients like Toyota, DIESEL Jeans, Mitusibishi, Procter & > > > Gamble, Sony, The Miami Heat Professional Basketball Team and Sunglass > > > Hut International, to name a few. > > > The company has been created by and will be managed by attorney Dan > > > Schultz of the LSAS. > > > Creative campaigns are in progress and will be operational as soon > as > > > a budget has been amassed and media buys can be made. > > > Please make copies and forward to all concerned parties. > > > Send your checks (NO CASH, WE'RE PLAYING BY THE BOOK AND EXPECT > > > AUDITS AND CLAIMS OF THEFT FROM THE RIGHTS KILLERS) immediately to: > > > > > > LAWYERS SECOND AMENDMENT SOCIETY > > > PMB 447 > > > 2118 WILSHIRE BLVD. > > > SANTA MONICA, CA 90403 > > > > > > In the memo section of your check write 'Operation We the People'. > > > > > > As you may have noticed, we have purposely located in the heart of > > > enemy territory. > > > Already I have been asked what my response will be to those who > > > question my advertising on the grounds of political correctness. > > > Considering that 'political correctness2' is a ten dollar way of saying > > > 'censorship', my official response is, screw'em. > > > > > > Going to war, > > > > > > Jim Houck > > > Creative Director, Los Angeles > > > sazebra@earthlink.net > > > PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL FIREARMS OWNERS > > > > > > === > > > PALEFACE > > > NRA, SASS Life, > > > Wahsatch Desperadoes, > > > Territorial Governor for > > > Crow Seeps Cattle Company, > > > The Home of Cowboy Action Shooting > > > for All of Central > > > Utah------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Please keep your replies trimmed as much as possible. > > > To unsubscribe, send an empty message to bp-l-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Join the resistance. RKBA! > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 99 12:55:42 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Poll (fwd) On Aug 20, C. D. Tavares wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/20/used.police.guns/ > >Should gun manufacturers be held liable for gun violence? So far: Yes 10% No 86% Sometimes 5% You know, it's funny -- politicians are supposed to be such poll-driven animals, yet here is an issue that by EVERYBODY'S measurement going to bite them right in the ass. - -- Tavares@alum.mit.edu http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:18:14 -0700 From: boyd@seanet.com Subject: Re: Fw: [fidoguns] LSAS (fwd) It certainly sounds like a good idea, but normally (at least IM experience) "creative work" is detailed before the funds are sought. Any of you knowing of large capital pools looking to pre pay undescribed creative work please contact me directly =; ) Boyd (I work in acrylic, water colors, mache, SQL, Access, & occiasionally with shovels) Kneeland - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 99 20:08:42 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fw: [fidoguns] LSAS (fwd) On Aug 20, boyd@seanet.com wrote: >It certainly sounds like a good idea, but normally (at least IM >experience) "creative work" is detailed before the funds are sought. Any >of you knowing of large capital pools looking to pre pay undescribed >creative work please contact me directly =; ) >Boyd (I work in acrylic, water colors, mache, SQL, Access, & >occiasionally with shovels) Kneeland Hmmmmm, suddenly I'm not sure which sounds more, "Liberal".....:-) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 99 21:42:51 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [richslick] S L I C K Year 4, Issue 38 (fwd) On Aug 21, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] =A9 1999 Rich Martin Permission to repost in full, or in part, is granted. You are encouraged to pass this message on to anyone=20 who might be interested in its contents. Better yet, print a=20 copy for a friend who is not on-line. Any and all comments=20 on the subject matter are always welcome. Do not use your reply button if you want everyone to read them. Send them=20 to: Slick-D@egroups.com To have your address removed from this list, reply with the=20 word CANCEL in the subject.=20 From the Desk of Rich Martin P O Box 531918 972/263-6631 Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com "...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an=20 irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's=20 minds..." Samuel Adams _______________________________________________=20 Congratulations Gene & Jill, 1999 CBS' 48-Hours had an interesting story that made a point=20 made on these pages repeatedly. A 14-yr-old girl was seduced=20 by a dirty old man 25 yrs her senior. The affair went on for=20 yrs and didn't come to light until she landed in a mental=20 facility after slicing up her ankles.=20 Now ordinarily, the predator would be called a pedofile,=20 persecuted in the media, given a long jail term, and when he=20 got out, he'd have an ankle bracelet and his address would=20 be listed with the authorities for the rest of his life. His=20 name and address would be available to the public on state=20 sponsored web sites. Even children as young 14 are listed as=20 sexual offenders on these sites.=20 But this case in Raymond, NH, wasn't a normal case.=20 Because of his position in the community, Bruce Usher wasn't=20 treated like Joe 6-pack. He was held to a lower standard,=20 what in law is called "using bad judgement". Many of the=20 people interviewed felt Usher was punished enough when=20 he was fired from his job, as a teacher. Despite favorable=20 treatment, the jury found him guilty, and the judge threw=20 the book at him. He recd 14 to 28 yrs, before time off for=20 good behavior, etc.=20 It's a classic Us and Them case, where govt employees=20 are the Us. We just had a similar case in the metroplex with=20 an officer "of the law" did a 14-yr-old movie usher, where=20 he was moonlighting. (He was even re-instated, probably with=20 back pay.) Any doubt on what would have happened if the=20 owner of the movie theater put a move on the pretty young=20 thing? Different laws for different folks, sorta like=20 belonging to the communist party in the fallen USSR. And if=20 we don't fix it, we'll meet the same fate. We're fiddling=20 around while America burns.=20 How Slick is Slick? Clinton blind-loyalists are are trying to invent similarities between his tryst with a 21-yr-old intern and=20 Mr Newt's alleged infidelity with 33-yr-old staffer. The=20 difference is, Bill's intentions toward Monica were never=20 honorable. It's apples and oranges, folks, and no matter how=20 much they spin, it'll never be lemonade. Broaddrick=20 B-1 BILL U.N.=20 backs away from U.S.-made deal with KLA [Free Republic]=20 =20 THE CLINTONS=20 LEGACY=20 Conversion of the once proud military service to the=20 largest mercenary force in the history of the world.=20 USAF stop loss<= /A>=20 TRADE DEFICIT For the 6th straight month The Clinton Trade Deficit set=20 a new 30-day record only to be broken when the next report=20 was released. Now at $24.6 bil, or enough to feed a family=20 of 4 for all eternity, at which time the deficit is expected to=20 level off.=20 OVERHEAD Highest paid federal work force in the history of the=20 nation, draining the resources of the people who are paying=20 the freight. Fedl workers pay now exceeds what the average=20 American private sector worker earns. Paying the govt administrators more than the producers will lead to the fall=20 of the country, as the best workers leave the private sector=20 to become part of the nation's overhead expenses. Clinton claims=20 tax cut "threatens" US treasures.=20 EDUCATION 6,000 guns were brought to school in violation of fedl laws,=20 and 13 or 14 cases prosecuted. We need a law that says the=20 law must be enforced, but before we go off on the courts &=20 prosecutors, you gotta wonder, how many of these guns were=20 cap guns, etc. In one notorious natl case, an elementary=20 pupil got swept up in his school's no tolerance policies=20 when he brought his G.I Joe to school armed with a 1 inch=20 "gun".=20 WE NEED A LAW Here's a stat the surprised me. 3,000 people are killed=20 each year changing flats on the side of the road. (Source:=20 Shell advt.) We need a law. Click on www anarchy.com for Their idea of a new law=20 needed.=20 MARRIAGE PENALTY TAX I've never considered myself a one-issue voter, but=20 there is one issue which does qualify for that rare honor--- the infamous Marriage Penalty Tax. Liberals act like=20 removing it would lead to disaster. The media claims it=20 would be a tax cut for the rich and would lead to the=20 destruction of everything good. But the truth is, it's just=20 plain UNFAIR. We need a law that says minimally, that a=20 married couple has the right to file "married but filing as single" (as compared "...but filing separately"). NOW! =20 ALGORE Why hasn't Algore taken on La Nina, like he saved us=20 from El Nino? Is he concerned about offending Hillary's=20 core liberal women's voters? HillaryNo.com=20 3RD PARTY We are being inundated by horror stories from the right=20 about voting for a 3rd Party. We'll end up electing Bradley or=20 Gore, they say. They fear Pat Buchanan will follow Sen Smith=20 and bring his followers with him. Well, who could blame=20 them, after what Jesse Ventura accomplished in his first=20 year on the job. A $2.7 B cut in budget returning $575 per=20 Minn citizen. Sen Ashcroft o= n=20 tax cut=20 LARRY ROBINSON The Texas Criminal Court of Appeals (Texas' Supreme Court) postponed the execution of mass murderer, Larry=20 Robinson, now 42, believing he not may be competent=20 enough to die. If he wasn't crazy when he killed 5 people,=20 including a child, 17 yrs in a Texas prison should do the trick. It would have been the 100th Texas execution=20 since George W took office. The question should be: did he know right from wrong=20 when he committed his crimes, not being too far gone to=20 appreciate the reason he's being snuffed out now. BACKLASH The delay has created a backlash with callers to popular=20 talk shows asking for the death penalty for a range of other=20 crimes, ie sexual offenders.=20 =20 ANOTHER FEDERAL TAKEOVER On MS-NBC's Geraldo, he reported that the Pittsburgh Police Dept has been taken over by the feds. Whenever I hear=20 someone say, "I'm from the govt, and I'm here to help you,"=20 I shudder. Control of the state prisons was just retd to the=20 State of Texas after being run by the feds for decades. (See=20 above.) AN INTERESTING ITEM Smoking Inspectors. Fire Inspectors in LA told the City=20 Council that they had observed smoking in over 80 bars over=20 the last few weeks. Rather than issuing citations, they have=20 adopted a more educational approach, that is less harsh. One=20 of the City Council members was quite put out and demanded=20 that they ticket the owners and smokers, that they were not=20 chartered to educate anyone. The LA Times story, read by=20 Limbaugh 7/28 was followed by another story that described=20 1200 Chinese Party Officials that had been recently=20 converted to a new religion being rounded up and sent to the=20 North for re-education, where they were to read Marx and=20 reflect on their straying from the Path of the Helmsman=20 (Mao). How many years down the road are re-education camps=20 for smokers ?=20 NOTICE This is the last "An Interesting Item" to appear in=20 the Slick E-zine. Starting tomorrow, Alex will posting to=20 this list separately.=20 More Interesting Items can be now be found on Rod Martin's=20 (no relation) "Vanguard" at Interesting Items by Alex=20 Gimarc=20 TOBACCO DEAL If the govt was really interested in fighting tobacco=20 addiction, you'd think they'd issue Nicoderm stamps to the=20 poor, instead they tax the cure and restrict=20 KATHIE'S KORNER To the remark that the world can be divided into two=20 kinds of people, the wise person replies, "Infinitely." And=20 sometimes we make the wrong divisions first, and confuse=20 ourselves about how the world is arranged. Take this=20 country's two-party system. Divide US citizens into 1. those=20 who believe there is one perfect belief system and we all=20 ought to align ourselves with it and that our laws should=20 reward those who do and punish those who don't believe as=20 our leaders believe, and 2. those who believe that there may=20 be more than one right way to reach the right answer and=20 that people should be free to arrive there in the way they=20 think best.=20 Once you've done that, you see why so many disenchanted=20 folks are saying that the biggest difference between=20 Republicans and Democrats is the color of their riding=20 silks. The only thing they disagree on, and this has changed=20 over the years in both parties, are the minutiae, not their=20 bedrock belief that we must all conform. On the other side=20 are the Libertarians, who pretty much practice the live-and- let-live philosophy that is anathema to both of the major=20 parties. Reply-to: fishrap@netdex.com LETTER-TO-THE-EDITOR Recd from: D.D < rdo156@mail.airmail.net > The Militia of North Dakota is the only site that I have=20 seen that even places the original unamended 1791 2nd=20 Amendment on the web. The so called 2nd Amendment that is=20 used today is not the real 2nd Amendment. Go back to the=20 original, it has power. The one used today by everyone has=20 no power to it.=20 AMENDMENT 2 (1791) The Right of the People to organize and=20 establish a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the=20 security of a free State, the Right to present and bear arms=20 against any enemy, whether they be foreign or domestic,=20 shall not be infringed. An organized effort to communicate=20 information between Citizens of the united States of America=20 and an organized effort to protect Citizens from criminal=20 acts committed against them by Government officials.=20 Original = 2nd=20 Amendment?=20 R.S. This is a new one on me. I do remember reading that the=20 original constitution was re-written the night before=20 signing for style. Anybody out there know? REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS... when Ladies' Night meant ladies would be admitted to the=20 ballpark free?=20 when a $1 bet placed with your local bookie paid $600 on a 1=20 in a 1,000 chance, AND income tax was optional. when no respectable time capsule was complete without a=20 Sears & Roebuck catalog.=20 BEST OF SLICK-d General Robert E. Lee=20 LETTER-TO-THE EDITOR ...One last thing - under "PAYING DOWN THE DEBT", you=20 say, "paying down the deficit". Don't you mean, "paying=20 down the debt"? 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Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/738 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/richslick http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Aug 99 21:44:44 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Heads Up #148 (fwd) On Aug 21, Doug Fiedor wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Heads Up A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia August 22, 1999 #148 by: Doug Fiedor fiedor19@eos.net - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Previous Editions at: http://www.uhuh.com/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm - --------------------------------------------------------------------- THE PRIMARY MESS It seems that they would have learned a little something from that terrible loss they inflicted on us. But they didn't. Here come the same fat cat establishment insiders pulling the same dirty tricks again. Last time, they inflicted us with Bob Dole, that liberal Washington insider in conservative clothing. "It's Bob's turn," was the insider mantra in the Republican Party. Funny thing, that. From out here in the foothills of Appalachia, we thought it looked a lot like a payback by the moneyed crowd for all the help Dole provided them over the years. Certainly, they couldn't believe Dole would win. Now comes the very same minions of the moneyed crowd pushing Bush Junior on us. And again, they are saying that Republican activists are to dummy up. It's a done deal. All they have to do is to buy a few primary elections, after all. No big deal for them. Already, they have the media swooning over Junior. There's a little problem, though: Bush gets positive press, as it goes. But, it is press without substance. There are no ideas, no positions, no nothing. Are they intentionally setting him up for a fall? Maybe. Contrast Bush with the issues identified by Forbes, Quayle, Buchanan and Smith, in that order. These men have ideas of substance. They have a platform. They have something that we can get behind, debate, defend -- or dump on if we do not agree. But, they do not have media acceptance. That's because they do not have the moneyed crowd's movers and shakers -- those in the background pulling the strings -- behind them. Bush has said nothing of substance yet. He does, however, have the people who count backing him. The above may sound a bit crass and jaded, but that is the way things work in national politics. For the primary election, anyway. The presidential primaries are actually an undemocratic mess and not at all difficult to manipulate by a very small group of insiders. The games played in the Ames, Iowa straw poll was a joke in point. Why in the world should that little straw poll make a difference? After all, this is not even the correct year for a primary election. Many of the votes cast at Ames were bought and paid for by the candidate committees. The straw poll was, therefore, but a diversion. A public relations extravaganza. It means nothing. Yet, it was published by the media as if it had meaning. Strange. The same applies to the New Hampshire primary. That is but a media event. In the real scheme of things, it should mean nothing. It's a prelude to the California and other early primaries. And herein lies another real problem with the presidential primaries: The race can be pretty much decided before half the electorate in the country even get to cast a vote. Those pulling the strings from the background like it like that, too. The elections costs less that way. The liberal national media also likes it. This system increases media influence. The losers are half the voters in the country. The primaries are a done deal before they get to vote. Listen to the media; they will tell you so. Consequently, many people do not even bother to vote in the primaries. Also, as evidenced by Bob Dole last time, the people do not always get the candidate they want. Rather, they usually get who the establishment insiders want them to have. That's yet another way of stacking the election results. They can force a weak candidate on one party or the other so their favorite son in the opposing party will win. And so it happened. Will Bush make a good president? We do not yet know what he thinks about the issues and the Bush camp seems to like it that way. Sooner or later, though, he is going to have to actually take a stand on an issue. That will lose votes. Also, Bush will have to pick a vice presidential running mate. Word on the street has it that he will pick either John Kasich, a social liberal, or Elizabeth Dole, a liberal bureaucrat. That will also lose a lot of votes. Anyone will beat Gore because no one wants him. Dollar Bill Bradley might give Bush and whoever a real run for their money, though. Some Americans still like socialism. But, if "Jesse the Body" runs, all bets are off. There is a very strong undercurrent of dissatisfaction with the political structure in this country right now. Regardless of his politics, Jessie would pull the votes simply because he is open and straightforward -- and not a career politician. Meanwhile, this mess we call the presidential primary election needs immediate attention. Many voters are disenfranchised and disaffected. That must change. Soon. As with other elections, the presidential primary election should be held on the same day in every state. ONE NUT CASE WITH A GUN We could have survived our whole week's vacation quite nicely without hearing the irresponsible national media relating their nauseating story of one Buford O. Furrow every single day for the week. But, that's all there was in the way of national "news" for that week where we were. We meandered out of the foothills of Appalachia down to the real hills of central Appalachia -- down where the turns in the highways are often so sharp you would swear the road is going to cross itself and a full line-up for cable TV only includes about 15 channels. "Lucky for those kids that idiot cannot shoot," I muttered to no one in particular at our gathering. A couple of men nodded agreement, and that was all that was said about that situation. Someone found the television's off switch. Later, it seemed there was something dreadfully wrong with this picture. Here's a fugitive from reason who spent time in federal psychiatric facilities. We have a convicted felon who had actually tried to commit himself to a psychiatric hospital last year. He was ordered by a judge in Washington to give up his guns and his probation officer was ordered by the judge to check his home periodically to insure that he complies with the order. But, we come to find out the guy had a federal firearms dealer's license and traded guns and ammunition regularly. Also, we learn, the probation officer never checked to see if he had guns. Suddenly, this jerk wants to shoot something up, so he checks out a few places and picks the one that seems to be least protected -- the day care center. He has a few guns and many pounds of ammunition in his van. But, he carjacks another car to use for the shooting, leaving the driver alive to give his description to the police. Therefore, he leaves most of his equipment and ammunition in his van. So, this idiot walks into a day care center with a loaded Uzi and a Glock. He fires off about seventy rounds, but only hits five people -- and then, mostly in the legs. Apparently, he shot the floor more than anything else. No one was shooting back, but Furrow only hit a target with five or six rounds out of seventy, and that from across the room. With guns that are easy to shoot. After that, for no apparent reason other than the guy looked a little different in Furrow's eyes, he shoots and kills a mailman. Suddenly he can shoot? Then, somehow he gets to Las Vegas and gives himself up. We're supposed to believe all this? Really? Because, if this thought pattern is established to be true, the problem lies with a psychiatric facility, a judge and a probation officer, all of whom would be very negligent. If this scenario is true, the guy is a total nut case and needed to be locked up. Hell, while trying to commit himself, he even admitted it! Some called his actions hateful. That's wrong. He's crazy. Deranged. And a miscreant. It's that, or there is something else afoot here. Meanwhile, public officials who do not like or trust the American people called for even more gun control. Los Angeles Police Chief Bernard Parks called for nationwide ban on assault rifles and small handguns known as Saturday night specials. Attorney General Janet Reno says gun violence might be reduced if prospective gun owners are required to be licensed and show they can use a firearm safely and legally. And the normal liberal perpetrators in the national media pulled out every shooting file clip they could find in their campaign to trash our right to keep and bear arms. Out here in the foothills of Appalachia, we see things just a little differently than Washington's chattering crowd. That is, if the judicial system, the psychiatric institutions and the parole/probation officers of the United States are going to allow nut cases like Buford O. Furrow to run our streets without even minimal supervision, that pretty much cements the need for a number of good citizens to remain armed. And if the national media would quit giving these psychologically disturbed imbeciles so much media coverage, perhaps the other mentally deranged in society would not play copycat. DEFENDING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT In the last issue we wrote about the fight against unconstitutional police roadblocks and the good works of an attorney named Pat Barber of Colorado City, Texas. This issue, we have similar good news about the defense of our Fourth Amendment rights. Someone once said "there ought to be a law," and apparently there is going to be. In Kentucky, anyway. It seems that a number of busy political activists around Kentucky have contacted their State legislators about the continuing annoyance of roadblocks around the State. Roadblocks are necessary to check for drunk drivers, seat belt use, proper child restraint and a number of proactive reasons, the errant police chiefs say with a straight face. "I think the public safety factor greatly outweighs the minor inconvenience of a stop," Kentucky State Police Major Don Pendleton told a State House committee last week. That's baloney! An old rule of thumb in political science teaches that when you transform a crime-detecting police force into a crime-preventing policing apparatus, you have created a police state. And, that is exactly what is developing. Quickly. The American people shall not direct their lives for the expediency of police work. The situation, in fact, is supposed to be the other way around. If an agent of government wishes to stop, question, check papers of and/or search an American citizen not immediately suspected of being involved in a crime, that public servant must first secure a warrant stating who and what is to be searched and why. Most police officers know that and few good American police officers will violate that rule of law. But, there is yet a much more ominous reason these unconstitutional roadblocks are dangerous to the well being of the American people. That directly relates to the mind-set of a certain segment of police officers. Years ago, I remember a little girl (we need not embarrass anyone with an identification here) sitting on the floor of the living room playing with the family cat. The cat suddenly started kicking up a fuss and making cat noises. The little girl's mother looked in from the kitchen and scolded: "Quit pulling that cat's tail!" The little girl looked up sweetly and replied, "I'm not pulling the cat's tail, mommy. I'm just holding. The cat is doing all the pulling." And so it is with many police officers today. If someone does not stop to have their papers checked, they get chased. If they still do not stop, most police officers will stop them the only way they know how: Crash them. After all, the police officer is only "holding." It is the person fleeing who is "pulling" the situation along. This creates a real danger for everyone around and it is not uncommon for people -- innocent victims, too -- to be killed. The other way for police to stop a fleeing citizen, of course, would be to shoot them. But, the fact is, the police will not let the person escape. They'll have an army of police cars zooming around until they somehow stop the person. To many police, the danger to the community is a forgotten factor at this point. Is the necessity of checking papers worth that risk? How about seat belt compliance? Tipsy drivers? Well, what is then? Where do we draw the line? The Kentucky House Judiciary Committee held a hearing on these roadblocks last week. They got an earful, too. State Rep. Perry Clark (D-Louisville) told Major Pendleton that police officers underestimated public feeling about roadblocks and that he intends to draft legislation to forbid them. "The people are irritated very much on this issue," Clark said. "To think we're not going to a police state -- we've got our heads in the sand." We had occasion to speak with people from both the House and Senate, and from both sides of the isle, on this issue last week. It appears that type of legislation stands an excellent chance of passing. And so it should, in every state in the country. We must demand that our State Legislators again begin performing their rightful duty, part of which is to protect the rights of the people by protecting and defending the United States Constitution against any assault whatsoever. The Fourth Amendment was designed to protect our liberty. But it also protects our personal privacy from the prying eyes of government agents. We do not need to have our "papers in order" for any agent of government unless we are to be accused of a crime. Tell them so. EXECUTIVE ORDERS By: Craig M. Brown The imperial President is at it again. On August 5th, the day before Congress went into recess, he signed two new executive orders, both of which Congress would surely have rejected. The first is an order designed to control the information flow on the Internet -- that devilish medium that won't keep its mouth shut about his misdeeds. The other is his second try at Executive Order 13083, the one he had to suspend in May of 1998 when Congress found out about it and forced him to put a hold on it. EO 13083 was one of the most diabolical in a sea of diabolical Clinton Executive Orders. While it was certain to have been struck down by the United States Supreme Court because it nullified the 10th Amendment, there is no telling how much damage could have been done to states' rights before it got there. Now he's trying again, hoping no one will notice until it's too late. While the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, we are cursed with a Congress that practices anything but vigilance. All Executive Orders are published in the Federal Register, which is presented daily to each member of Congress. Since it's apparently too much trouble for Congressmen or their staffs to read the register, it falls to us to read it for them. Executive Orders are a favorite tool of President Clinton, who is disdainful of the sole power of Congress to create laws. Consequently, he fires off EOs like a Gattling gun, in the dead of night or when Congress is in recess. Fighting them is a ping pong game, trying to bat them back when the President serves them ten at a time. The truth is that the only way we citizens can win at this game is by throwing a blanket over the table. What is holding back the blanket is the Emergency and War Powers Act, which was created in the 1930s to give FDR broad powers to hold the country together during first the depression and later World War II. In theory, the EWPA is an excellent tool for fast response during a true national emergency. And we have been fortunate in that since FDR, we have not had a megalomaniac President who abused the powers inherent in the EWPA. Not until now. Take a look at some of the EOs that have been coming out of the White House in recent months. The buildup of the powers of FEMA, run by President Clinton's Arkansas buddy, James Lee Witt. Through the relentless assault on the sovereignty of the individual states via Executive Orders, President Clinton has systematically drawn unprecedented power to himself to the point that by a stroke of his pen during some real or imagined emergency (Y2K comes to mind), our Republic can be replaced by a dictatorship. Admittedly, this could be considered a paranoid view of our government. But this is a very special President, unlike any we've ever had. Even his wife attributes his actions to a psychological affliction. At the very least, we should ask ourselves how important it is to have the EWPA at the disposal of _any_ President, let alone this one. If the power over us isn't used, the act is unnecessary. If it is used, it can be disastrous. While the two Executive Orders concerning Federalism and editing the Internet need to be intercepted and destroyed, the problem of EOs will continue while the Emergency and War Powers Act is in place. [Note: To read these executive orders -- EO 13132 on Federalism and EO 13133 on the Internet -- go to http://www.uhuh.com/laws/list-law.htm -- ed] ~ End ~ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #273 *************************