From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #300 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Tuesday, November 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:49:59 -0500 From: pukanecz@exchange.vt.edu Subject: RE: Gun Ban Poll at www.vote.com, We're Losing! Vote Early; Vote (fwd) Actually the pro-gun side is leading on that one. A NO vote opposes restricting access to older teens. Funky wording. Don't forget to oppose racial profiling while your there. Here's one from the MSNBCKBG site: http://www.msnbc.com/news/330919.asp _VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_VT_ Todd Pukanecz Virginia Tech, CALS & 229 Dist Ed Blacksburg, Virginia ....................................................... "All too often, the Congress thinks there is no end to the good they can do with your money and their brains. It is time for us to put an end to this misguided belief. The Founding Father's vision was for a constitutional republic where the will of the people would be imposed on Washington, not the views of Washington imposed on the people." - -- Sen. John Ashrcroft ~> ~>On Nov 5, ASSETNJ@AOL.COM wrote: ~> ~>[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows ~>--------------------] ~> ~>In a message dated 11/5/99 3:08:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, ~>NJGunsRus writes: ~> ~><< http://www.vote.com/vote/1180/ >> ~> ~>[------------------------- end of forwarded message ~>------------------------] ~> ~>-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:20:27 -0800 From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Re: FWD.doc (fwd) At 06:33 AM 10/28/1999 PST, Bill Vance wrote: >Well, we do seem to have gotten an awful lot of mileage out of l' Marquis de >Laffayette.....:-) > >On Oct 27, luke speer wrote: > >America: The Good Neighbor > > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a > remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a > Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his > trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: > > This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the >most > generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted >out > of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of >dollars > and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today > paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. This was recorded about 20 YEARS ago; I have it on a 45 RPM record. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-955-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) - -------------- http://www.gvn.net/~creative/ ---------------------- There is no such thing as "e-mail tracking software". Cell phones don't cause explosions in gas stations. Any e-mail that encourages you to "forward it to all your friends" is a hoax. Avoid falling prey to urban legends; check out the Urban Legends page at http://urbanlegends.about.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:56:19 -0600 From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Scraping the bottom of the (honey) bucket. <> http://www.foxnews.com/world/110799/britain.sml British Army To Recruit From Jails=20 9.37 a.m. ET (1437 GMT) November 7, 1999 =20 LONDON =97 For young criminals considering a new career, the British army could be the answer.=20 Spurred by a shortage of soldiers and the Labor Party government's liberalized views on rehabilitating prisoners, the army will send recruiting officers to juvenile jails next year, the Defense Ministry announced Sunday.=20 "The army is looking for the best new recruits and if some of these can be found inside young offenders' institutions then so be it," a Defense Ministry spokesman said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.=20 "Some excellent young recruits may have made a mistake but have paid for it and deserve a chance to serve their country," he added.=20 Ex-convicts seeking to join the army must have been sentenced to a maximum of two years, and have been under 18 when sentenced. Inmates serving sentences for racially motivated crimes or sex and drug offenses will be excluded, though.=20 Britain's volunteer army is 4,000 recruits below strength and is particularly thinly stretched because of new international peacekeeping operations in Kosovo and East Timor, on top of regular commitments.=20 <> Prisoners' welfare groups applauded the move, but the main opposition Conservative Party expressed deep concern.=20 =20 The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution.=20 ---Doug McKay"=20 Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 99 13:41:38 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: 12th Annual National Police Survey (fwd) On Nov 07, Mike Riddle wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Note particularly questions 3 through 9. >From the NRA-ILA Fax Alert, Vol. 6, No. 43 - 11/05/99 > >"LAW ENFORCEMENT REJECTS GUN CONTROL > >The 12th Annual National Police Survey once again affirms what most of us >already know -- that the overwhelming majority of those in the law >enforcement community believe gun control does not prevent crime. The 1999 >survey, conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police, posed >questions to 18,102 Chiefs of Police and Sheriffs. Here are some >highlights: 93% believe law-abiding citizens should be able to purchase a >firearm for self-defense or sport; 88% believe that a convicted felon in >possession of a gun should be prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney, and if >convicted, receive the maximum prison term; 66% reject the idea that >law-abiding citizens should be limited to one gun per month; 56% believe >that gun shows are NOT a major source of illegal guns for criminals; and >within the past year, 93% of the agencies surveyed have NOT been asked to >arrest anyone making a false statement on an application to purchase a >firearm." > http://www.aphf.org/aphf.nsf/htmlmedia/body_annual_national_police_survey.html 12th Annual National Police Survey 1999 SURVEY OF ALL LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE UNITED STATES The following survey questions were posed in the last 60 days by mail of 16,000 Chiefs of Police and Sheriffs that was recently completed. It represents a cross section of professional officers involving every state with a 10% response. The survey was conducted for the 12th consecutive year by the National Association of Chiefs of Police. Washington, D.C., (202)293-9088. Permission to reproduce in whole or part is given if credit is given to our organization. Death Penalty YesNo 1. Do you believe the death penalty serves as a deterrent to certain types of crimes? Yes 90.8% ... No 08.9% 2. Do you believe that when a law enforcement officer is feloniously killed in the line of duty that the penalty upon conviction should be death? Yes 97.6% ... No 01.7% Firearms 3. Do you believe any law-abiding citizen should be able to purchase a firearm for sport or self-defense? Yes 92.7% ... No 06.8% 4. Within the past year, has your agency been called upon to arrest anyone who has made a false statement on an application to purchase a firearm? Yes 06.2% ... No 93.3% 5. Do you believe anyone (such as a convicted felon) in violation of state or federal firearm possession laws should be prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney and, if convicted, receive a maximum prison term? Yes 87.7% ... No 11.2% 6. Do you believe law-abiding citizens should be limited to purchase of no more than one firearm per month? Yes 32.7% ... No 65.8% 7. Do you believe local "gun shows" are a major source for sales of illegal firearms to criminals? Yes 40.7% ... No 55.8% 8. Do you believe criminals currently are able to obtain virtually any type of firearm by illegal means? Yes 97.9% ... No 01.8% 9. Do you believe any sworn peace officer or retired officer should be permitted to carry a firearm from state to state? Yes 93.6% ... No 05.8% Ethics 10. Do you believe the ethical standards of your department are upheld at a higher level than those by elected officials in our nation's capital? Yes 93.8% ... No 04.8% 11. Would off-duty, private sexual misconduct of an officer in your department result in dismissal or penalty of any type? Yes 78.1% ... No 15.7% Media 12. Do you believe the media (TV, radio and print) are fair and impartial in reporting the news? Yes 08.4% ... No 90.6% 13. Does your agency have one officer assigned to handle media requests? Yes 56.3% ... No 42.9% Terrorism/Sabotage 14. Has your agency been offered training in connection with the U.S. Department of Justice "first responder" program to combat weapons of mass destruction, biological warfare, etc.? Yes 28.6% ... No 70.6% 15. Has your agency received special equipment to protect officers from such hazards? Yes 07.1% ... No 92.4% 16. Do you believe the coming year will bring foreign or domestic terrorist attacks that threaten the public trust in our role as guardians of law and order? Yes 77.7% ... No 18.7% Technology/Equipment 17. Do you believe arrestees should be required to provide DNA samples, in a manner similar to current practices of fingerprinting? Yes 79.9% ... No 18.0% 18. Were funds available, would you like to have videocameras available in all police vehicles, holding cells, interrogation areas and anywhere public may be in contact with officers? Yes 94.9% ... No 04.9% 19. Were funds available, would you like a device that can emit a magnetic ray to shut down the engine of a speeding car? Yes 90.6% ... NO 08.5% 20. Were funds available, would you like a firearm that uses a microchip to ensure only the officer can fire it, preventing a suspect from shooting it in a struggle with the officer? Yes 84.0% ... No 14.6% 21. Does your department require each officer to wear a bullet-resistant jacket on duty? Yes 59.5% ... No 40.2% 22. Does your department use CS or CN teargas as an option to force? 71.5% ... 28.1% Drugs 23. Do you believe that marijuana should continue to be illegal for personal use? 90.1% ... 09.2% 24. Do you believe a "zero tolerance" program testing prisoners and parolees for drug use will reduce drug use among those people? 69.1% ... 30.3% 25. Do you believe the national war on drugs that has been going on for more than 15 years has been successful in reducing the use of illegal drugs? 21.6% ... 77.7% 26. Do you believe abuse of illegal drugs has had a serious impact upon crime in your community? 88.8% ... 10.8% Other 27. If free brochures about "dos and don'ts" regarding driver actions following a traffic accident were provided to your agency, would you consider disseminating them to citizens? 96.2% ... 03.2% 28. Do you favor the drafting of all males for one to three years of military service? 58.9% ... 39.2% 29. Do you believe the formation of a United Nations police force may threaten the sovereignty of the United States? 49.7% ... 43.7% 30. Do you believe that all officers injured in the line of duty to the extent that they no longer are able to perform police work should be entitled to at least two-thirds of pay, family medical benefits and, if possible, training for other work? 98.2% ... 01.0% [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 99 08:07:39 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VPC would LOVE to see this!!! (fwd) On Nov 8, Doug Spittler wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >appeared in the Edmonton Journal Sunday 31 October 1999 > > >In its obsessive, pig-headed and ignorant rush to register all the gopher >guns and target pistols in the country, it is entirely likely the Liberal >government in Ottawa will end up getting more Canadians killed than would >ever have been saved had the registry lived up to the fantastical promises >made in order to sell it. > >This shouldn't surprise. Liberals, both big and small-l, are famous for >getting stung by the law of unintended consequences. > >Liberals devised universal welfare to eliminate poverty and in the attempt >expanded the ranks of the poor. They made divorce easier to get to free >wives from abusive husbands and make women more independent, and ended up >causing half the marriages since to break up and shackling vast numbers of >women to the poverty of single motherhood. They raised taxes to pay for >their multitude schemes and killed the jobs that generate the income to pay >the taxes. > >Why shouldn't it be that the when Liberals set out to reduce murders, >accidental death and suicides by making every homeowner, farmer and hunter >declare his or her firearms to the government the end result would be an >increase in the number of dead Canadians? It fits the pattern. > >In the nearly 11 months since the Liberals imposed their universal registry >on the nation's recreational firearms community, black market gun sales have >boomed. Scores of legitimate gun shops have gone under or are about to. But >under-the-tables sales are as healthy as all get out. >In large part, this is because the Liberals new gun laws instantly >criminalized hundreds of thousands of gun sales that for centuries had been >legal. Canadians have always sold each other weapons of all sorts privately, >including firearms. Such over-the-fence transactions occur as often as a >quarter-million times each year, perhaps more. >Thanks to Justice Minister Anne McLellan's hysterically rigid insistence that >each and every gun sale, even these neighbour-to-neighbour sales, be >approved by her department in advance, nearly all these sales are now >so-called black market sales. > >But beyond this administrative expansion of the black market, there has been >a real increase in the number illegitimate sales. Since buying a gun the >Ottawa-approved way through a licensed gun shop often takes days or weeks, >and costs at least $25 just for the government imprimatur, many frustrated >owners are turning to - let's call them - less-conventional suppliers. >This action on the part of otherwise law-abiding firearms afficionados is >lamentable, even as it is entirely understandable. Before Ottawa will >approve sales to the banker down the block, or your kid's hockey coach, or >the university prof who hunts with his buddies each fall, it wants to know >if they are alcoholics, if they are good spouses, if they have ever lost a >job or gone bankrupt, if their neighbours have any complaints about them. It >wants them to build or buy expensive safes for their guns and others for >their ammunition. It wants them to take lengthy and expensive safety >courses; to get permission (in many cases) before they move their guns from >one home to another, or from home to the shooting range. It even wants to >approve in advance the willing of guns to their heirs. And Ottawa wants >legitimate gun owners to pay handsomely to clear all these obstacles. >Ottawa's anti-gun minions hoped this labyrinth of inconvenience, harassment >and bureaucratic proctology would, over time, cause Canada's four or five >million firearms owners to give up their sport. Recreational shooting and >hunting would become more trouble than they are worth, and firearms owners >would voluntarily turn their guns over to police. Rather than out-and-out >confiscation, this was a scheme for constructive disarmament of the civilian >population. > >But here comes the law of unintended consequences, again. There is no >justification for denying law-abiding citizens the ownership of firearms in >a democracy, in a political system in which they are the ultimate >sovereigns. This was never a sentiment much articulated in Canada. Yet it >turns out it was deeply held. > >The gun registry is bitterly resented by legitimate gun owners in Canada, not >just for its cost and convoluted intrusiveness, but for its underlying >message that the government does not trust its own people. > >So as McLellan's own group of hand-picked firearms experts recently told her, >her government's legislation has prompted "an unchecked growth in the most >unwanted elements of the firearms trade...the black market." Black market >guns cannot be traced. Under the old system, gun shop owners often helped >police identify suspects and the guns they purchased before they committed >their crime. Black market gun sellers almost never talk; to do so would be >to admit to participating in an illegal act (the under-the-table sale). >Black market guns are many times more likely to be used in crimes. Thus black >market sales equal more gun deaths. McLellan and the Liberals' gun registry >equals more black market sales. Therefore, McLellan and the Liberals' >registry equals more gun deaths. > >Moreover, three weeks ago, proof arrived of how futile the registry has been >from the start. Statistics Canada says that of the 555 murders in 1998, just >151 (27.2 per cent) were committed with guns. Of those, only nine per cent, >just 14, were committed with a legally owned, unregistered rifle or shotgun. >All the rest were committed with guns that have had to be registered since >1934 (handguns) or with illegal guns, such as sawed-off shotguns or full >automatics. > >Ottawa is spending hundreds of millions of dollars, subjecting decent >Canadians to horrendous administrative abuse and spurring an enormous black >market on the off chance of saving 14 lives a year. > >Dumb, dumb, dumb. > >Lorne Gunter, Columnist >The Edmonton Journal >P.O. Box 2421 >Edmonton AB CANADA >T5J 2S6 >off tele: (780) 429-5267 >fax: (780) 429-5500 (requires a cover page) >cell: (780) 916-0719 > > -------[Cybershooters contacts]-------- > > Editor: cybershooters@compuserve.com > > Fieldsports editor & subscriptions: pj@forge.demon.co.uk > > Website: http://www.forge.demon.co.uk/cybershooters/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 99 09:44:22 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fwd: FreedomChannel.com Introduces First Video-on-Demand in... (fwd) On Nov 8, ASSETNJ@AOL.COM wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Interesting concept.... From: AOLNews@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:02:15 EST Subject: FreedomChannel.com Introduces First Video-on-Demand in... FreedomChannel.com Introduces First Video-on-Demand in American Politics With Issues Messages from Presidential Campaigns WASHINGTON, Nov. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- FreedomChannel.com, a new nonprofit, nonpartisan Internet site launching today, provides voters free access to issue videos from presidential candidates, political parties and America's leading issue groups. Over 50 specific issue messages are available on FreedomChannel.com from the presidential candidates alone - including Vice-President Gore, Bill Bradley, Senator McCain, Steve Forbes, Senator Hatch and others. The site offers each candidate for President, the parties and issue groups ninety seconds to make their case on each specific issue, ranging from health care to Social Security, from gun control to moral values. Bipartisan founders Doug Bailey and Roger Craver, the team that also founded The Hotline political briefing 12 years ago, said that the goal of FreedomChannel.com was for voters to be able, "to click on the candidates they want to hear from, on the issues they want to hear about, all at times of their own choosing." Over two dozen political organizations and issue groups all across the political spectrum -- including both the Republican and Democratic parties -- also have their 90-second issue videos on the FreedomChannel.com site. Included are both the NRA and Handgun Control, Inc -- Empower America and the Democratic Leadership Council -- the NFIB and the NEA-AARP, ACLU, Common Cause, the National Taxpayers Union, the Sierra Club -- and over a dozen more. "Every group is welcome," said Bailey. "And come January we will add all the candidates for the Senate, the House and Governor." The site has enthusiastic support from a star-studded Advisory Council who have helped shape the rules and guidelines for the cutting-edge site. Here is what some of them have to say: Mike McCurry, former Press Secretary to President Clinton: "FreedomChannel.com is the voter's one stop-shop for all the candidates and all the parties." Bill Paxon, former Chairman, National Republican Congressional Committee: "If you've seen FreedomChannel.com, you've seen the future." Ann Richards, former Governor of Texas: "This is sort of like becoming your own TV producer. You decide who you want to see, and on what, and when." Trevor Potter, former Chairman, Federal Elections Commission: "The Freedom Channel is its own form of campaign finance reform; it provides all candidates with equal access to voters - and increases substance at the same time." Tom Kean, former Governor of New Jersey: "It can help at all levels, but it will be invaluable at the Congressional level, where voters have the toughest time knowing what candidates stand for." Janet Brown, Executive Director, Presidential Debate Commission: "Awesome." Josette Shiner, President, Empower America: "What the voters want is what they get. They're in the driver's seat." Al From, President, Democratic Leadership Council: "In the Information Age, ideas need to drive politics and policy, and FreedomChannel.com is helping to make that happen." Note: From's DLC is making its own Internet history tonight with an Online Town Meeting with President Clinton. When: 7:00pm (EST). Where: http://townhallmeeting.excite.com. The Sponsors of the nonprofit, free FreedomChannel.com site (which takes no advertising of any kind) are the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, the Freedom Forum, Carnegie Corporation of New York and The Century Foundation. Under an agreement announced today, all Internet videos on the FreedomChannel.com site are delivered by Yahoo! Inc., which also provides the videos on Yahoo!(R) Politics (http://politics.yahoo.com). All videos are processed and digitized at Interface Video Group in Washington, DC. Design, construction and hosting of the FreedomChannel.com site is from AppNet, Inc. through its office in Falls Church, Virginia. SOURCE FreedomChannel.com CO: FreedomChannel.com ST: District of Columbia IN: CPR MLM SU: PDT 11/08/1999 11:01 EST http://www.prnewswire.com Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: News Profiles and click on "Modify Your News Profiles." Then click "Edit" and add Reuters from the list on the left. To edit your profile, go to keyword NewsProfiles. For all of today's news, go to keyword News. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:02:35 -0800 From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Re: Scraping the bottom of the (honey) bucket. At 10:56 AM 11/7/1999 -0600, you wrote: ><practice. I guess the Brits are really scraping the bottom of the honey >bucket. I guess these are the folks that the UN/NWO will be sending to >confiscate our guns..poor bastards. > >I expect the US military won't be far behind in utilizeing this new source >of manpower, and maybe even the police>> > Nothing new here! Until the late 1950's, it was hardly uncommon for the juvenile justice judge to sentence a youthful miscreant to "reform school, or enlist" - the attitude being that military discipline would straighten out the boy and turn him into a man. And neither the Army nor the Marines balked at taking these jailbirds-in-training and turning them into soldiers. It wasn't until the military started needing brains more than cannon fodder that they began to try to "increase the quality of recruits", by rejecting those with minor criminal records and requiring high school diplomas. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-955-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) - -------------- http://www.gvn.net/~creative/ ---------------------- There is no such thing as "e-mail tracking software". Cell phones don't cause explosions in gas stations. Any e-mail that encourages you to "forward it to all your friends" is a hoax. Avoid falling prey to urban legends; check out the Urban Legends page at http://urbanlegends.about.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 99 08:42:18 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: UN...Global Gun Grab (fwd) On Nov 9, RJK.Sr. wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] UN...Global Gun Grab It s open season on the right to keep and bear arms as UN globocrats gear up for international gun controls. The United Nations is very troubled that the United States has retained its Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Radical new UN proposals treat free people with the means to effect their own self-defense as a vital threat to the United Nations and its quest for what it calls the "peace-building process." More troubling still is the fact that for the first time this radical UN agenda represents a clear and present danger to our right to keep and bear arms. This is in part because the Clinton State Department is collaborating with the UN and its proposals. But another, perhaps more dangerous, prong of the UN attack on the right to keep and bear arms comes from an insidious quasi-private institution heavily funded by socialist Northern European governments. This little- known, UN-backed organization charges itself with developing "message strategies" and "campaigning and advocacy strategies" to obtain a UN-managed global ban on the private ownership of firearms. Anti-Gun Agenda The United Nations "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms" issued on August 19th bitterly complains that "there are wide differences among States [nations] as regards which types of arms are permitted for civilian possession, and as regards the circumstances under which they can legitimately be owned, carried and used. Such wide variation in national laws raise difficulties for effective regional or international coordination." That the UN "experts" are complaining mainly about the United States is made clear from the concluding recommendations in the report. Among the "coordination" proposals adopted by the panel enthusiastically seconded by UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan in his foreword to the report are the following: "All States should ensure that they have in place adequate laws, regulations and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the legal possession of small arms and light weapons and over their transfer...." "States are encouraged to integrate measures to control ammunition...." "States should work toward the prohibition of unrestricted trade and private ownership of small arms and light weapons...." The UN report defines small arms to include just about every category of firearms that exists: "The category of small arms includes revolvers and self-loading pistols, rifles and carbines, sub-machine guns, assault rifles and light machine guns." The United Nations call for banning even hunting rifles and antique revolvers from civilian possession demonstrates the radical and groundbreaking nature of the report. Though the current United Nations attack on the Second Amendment fails to take aim at civilian possession of shotguns, shotgun owners should find no security in the current UN focus. The UN report in no way limits global firearms restrictions to "military"-related firearms such as "revolvers" and "rifles." The UN "experts" explain that the United Nations must deal with firearms on social as well as military criteria: "Virtually every part of the United Nations system is dealing in one way or another with the consequences of the armed conflicts, insecurity, violence, crime, social disruption, displaced peoples and human suffering that are directly or indirectly associated with the wide availability and the use of these weapons." To implement their gun control measures, UN officials plan to ignore the reservation of national sovereignty guaranteed in the UN Charter the same way that the U.S. Congress often ignores the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The UN Charter bans UN intervention in "matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state," but the UN is no longer concerned with legal niceties. Annan explained in his September 22nd address before the UN General Assembly that "state sovereignty, in its most basic sense, is being redefined.... A new, broader definition of national interest is needed in the new century [where] the collective interest is the national interest." In Annan s view, the "collective interest" mandates that Americans and other peoples of the world should not own firearms and that the UN should be the key organ charged with collecting them. Annan emphasized in a September 24th speech that "controlling the easy availability of small arms is a prerequisite for a successful peace- building process," which is why the "United Nations has played a leading role in putting the issue of small arms firmly on the international agenda." UN control over a global movement to ban private firearms ownership has already begun. According to a September 23rd UN press release, the United Nations convened a two-day workshop to set up a test arms register and "database" maintained by the UN for the entire continent of Africa. There have already been calls to make this regional database binding on all nations. Clinton Administration Assent More troubling than the fact that a corrupt United Nations is seeking to attack the U.S. Bill of Rights and confiscate firearms legally owned by American citizens is the fact that the Clinton administration has been actively conspiring with the United Nations to accomplish this subversive goal. UN Secretary- General Kofi Annan emphasizes in his foreword to the "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms" that it was "prepared, and adopted by consensus" and was the product of "unanimity" among the "expert" members of the group. Based upon Annan s statement, we can presume that none of the "experts" object to such a naked attack on the right to bear arms. Yet among the "experts" who drafted the report was U.S. State Department Senior Foreign Affairs Specialist Herbert L. Calhoun. State Department assistance to the UN global gun grab agenda dates back to at least 1994, when the Washington Times reported in its May 24th edition that "the Clinton administration has agreed to participate in a discussion of ways for the United Nations to control the manufacture of guns and their sales to civilians.... The UN working paper declares that governments individually are impotent to deal with global arms trafficking and proposes harmonization of gun control standards around the world to make trafficking easier to spot and prevent." The Times report noted that "any harmonization would inevitably mean tightening controls on the loosely regulated U.S. gun business." State Department officials have expressed general sympathies with the current UN proposals without mentioning the specific attack on citizen firearms ownership. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told the first-ever UN Security Council Small Arms Ministerial on September 24th that "the United States strongly supports these steps," that we "welcome the important precedent which the UN has set," and that the U.S. would work to "commit to finishing negotiations on a firearms protocol to the UN Transnational Organized Crime Convention by the end of 2000." "The United Nations call for gun control is an affront to our way of life and our constitutional government," Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) told The New American. "Mixing gun control with internationalism is certain to result in an assault on American rights and liberties." Representative Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD) pointed out to The New American that the UN s escalating gun confiscation campaign "fits the pattern of a UN that s become a refuge and a foundation for promoting socialism and undermining national sovereignty and individual freedom." The eager involvement of the Clinton/Albright State Department in that campaign illustrates anew the administration s contempt for the Constitution, the rule of law, and our national independence. NGO Advocacy Conspiring officials within the Clinton administration do not constitute the only prong of the UN assault on the right to keep and bear arms. The UN has established within its Department for Disarmament Affairs a department of Coordinating Action on Small Arms (CASA). According to an August 14th UN press release, CASA would be charged with coordinating all UN small arms control efforts, including a responsibility "to encourage civil society involvement in building societal resistance to violence." The reference to "civil society" suggests that the UN is trying to mobilize private sector Non- Governmental Organizations (NGOs) and citizen pressure on behalf of its agenda. The attempt to generate pressure from below as well as from above has already obtained results. In November 1998 the UNESCO Courier suggested that "the political tides may be changing. An international campaign is now underway with non- governmental organizations of all stripes and colours disarmament and gun control groups along with development and human rights associations in the North and South building common ground with the active support of governments like Mali, Canada, Norway and Japan." This year the international campaign sought by the UNESCO Courier acquired an organizational face, although there is very little "non-governmental" about it. Annan specifically cited this new organization, as well as the UN-generated "momentum" justifying this impending power grab, in his September 24th address on small arms: "The momentum for combating small arms proliferation has also come from civil society, which has been increasingly active on this issue. The establishment early this year of the International Action Network on Small Arms [IANSA] has helped to sharpen public focus on small arms, which has helped us gain the public support necessary for success." IANSA is intended to "provide a transnational framework" for the mobilization of a broad citizen movement in favor of gun control, according to the organizational goals posted on its website. The services IANSA intends to provide the UN-led global gun control movement include "campaigning and advocacy strategies," "developing culturally appropriate message strategies," "information sharing" among NGOs, and "constituency building." Funding for this incipient propaganda campaign comes from the public trough of the taxpayers of the European socialist nations. IANSA notes on its website that its eight most significant financial donors include five government agencies: The Belgian Ministry for Development Cooperation; the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs; the Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs; the United Kingdom Department for International Development; and the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. (The remaining three are small, pacifist, U.S.-based tax- exempt foundations.) Clinton s "Buy-back" Initiative On September 9th, Bill Clinton unveiled a proposal that represents yet another prong of the UN-directed global gun grab: A $15 million federal gun "buy-back" initiative to be implemented by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Through subsidies from HUD, local police departments will be awarded up to $500,000 to collect and destroy an estimated 300,000 firearms. The UN Centre for Disarmament Affairs (UNCDA) refers to such "buy-backs" as a "practical method of micro-disarmament," which has been field- tested by municipal governments in the U.S. and by UN "peacekeeping" forces in Haiti, El Salvador, Nicaragua, and other countries. A 1995 UNCDA paper by Dr. Edward J. Laurance, a consultant to the UN Register of Conventional Arms since 1992, notes that the UNCDA has studied both "buy- back programs as practiced in many American cities" and those "conducted by the U.S. Army in Haiti" the latter being part of a "peacekeeping" mission carried out on orders from the UN Security Council. According to Dr. Laurance, government "buy-backs" of small arms "must be conducted in parallel with other efforts," such as "seizure programs." He also points out that "buy-backs" have a propaganda benefit, in that they focus "attention on the link between weapons availability and crime" thereby preparing the public for more aggressive civilian disarmament measures. To illustrate a UN-supervised civilian "micro-disarmament" program that worked, he refers to El Salvador s "new laws outlawing possession of military weapons and requiring all citizens to register hand guns and personal weapons. A new police force was created [and] trained under UN supervision [which] received specialized training in searching for, confiscating and destroying military-style weapons...." Sami Faltas of the Bonn International Centre for Conversion, an international "think tank" that has advised UN officials on civilian disarmament programs around the world (and for which Dr. Laurance serves as a consultant), has laid out the program with stunning candor: A subtle mix of rewards and penalties is needed for a weapons [confiscation] program to succeed. Ultimately, the ownership of arms should not be left to the personal choice of individuals. The state needs to preserve its monopoly of the legitimate use of force. So sanctions against the illegal possession and use of arms are necessary and should be imposed. However, during a weapons collection program, an amnesty is needed, and the emphasis should be on voluntary compliance and positive incentives. The equation is quite easy to understand: Gun "buy- backs" prepare the public for uniform gun registration, which leads to universal gun confiscation and a state monopoly on lethal force. This was the process that led to mass murder of subject populations in Soviet Russia, National Socialist Germany, Communist China, and other despotisms. With the covert aid of the Clinton administration, the UN is now implementing this process on a global basis. 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