From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #400 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, November 11 2000 Volume 02 : Number 400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Nov 00 11:56:03 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Countering Democrat Election Theft There's actually grounds for agreement between the Reform and Republican Parties. The Democrats are trying to steal the Election from _Both_ Parties. For the Reform Party, it's PJB's big win in a Florida County, and for the Republicans, it's G.W. Bushes overall win. It's time for _both_ Parties to join together in denouncing this Election Theft to the National Election authorities, the Florida Election authorities, the DNC, and the Florida Democrats. Time to start flooding all four of them with snail/e mail, and phone calls/faxes, _demanding_ that the Democrats stop trying to Steal _our_ Election! Lets slam dunk them before they even get started. If you have the appropriate addresses and phone numbers, add them to this post, and spread it far and wide. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 00 13:43:50 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A Nation Divided -- and A Message to the Enemy Camp [Free Republic] (fwd) On Nov 9, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This is pretty self explanatory. Steve M. A Nation Divided -- and A Message to the Enemy Camp [Free Republic] FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. A Nation Divided -- and A Message to the Enemy Camp Politics/Elections Opinion (Published) Keywords: THE BATTLE LINES ARE BEING DRAWN Source: Sierra Times Published: 8 November 2000 Author: J.J. Johnson Posted on 11/08/2000 18:46:15 PST by The_Expatriate A Nation Divided (And a message to the Enemy Camp) By J.J. Johnson - Posted: 11.08.00 If you're wondering what that upset feeling is in your stomach, you're not alone. In my opinion, this is the calm before the storm. Let November 7, 2000 be a red-letter day; and a black mark on American history. The only winner of this election will be the truth. The truth that this nation is more polarized and divided than it has ever been. In other countries, it's at this point that the shooting starts, and the blood begins to flow in the streets. Perhaps that explains that upset feeling in your stomach today. This is not to be interpreted to indicate that we advocate such actions, but if what I fear lies ahead, it's best that someone step forward and explain to our posterity how and why we got to this crossroad in America. Regardless of the final result, America's choice will remain deadlocked. There will be no negotiating, as there is too much at stake. The party who is on the verge of losing all power in Washington DC has a track record of ill behavior in vote counting. There has also been a pattern, for at least the last decade, of violent death and destruction that takes place when their authority is threatened. For what it's worth, the so-called "exit poll data" is telling the world who is on which side in this conflict. Rural vs Urban, Young vs Old, Black vs White etc. Gentile vs non-gentile, etc. To put it simply, us against them. No one wants to admit it, no one wants to say it, but that's the way it is. According to the AP "For a watching world, a full day of confusion over the results of the U.S. presidential race was a lesson in democracy's messy glory - or proof that the political system in the world's most powerful nation might just be in need of an overhaul." Well, to the rest of the world, the Associated Press may be right about that "overhaul." The last major overhaul of this type cost us about 600,000 lives back in the 19th century with primitive weaponry. The states where many people's ancestors fought and died for their beliefs in the Constitution led the battle of November 7, 2000 at the ballot box -- showing that no matter what happens, or what you hear on CNN, that battle is not over. In fact, the next phase of this battle has just begun. My prediction: This is GOING to get ugly. Let us now state these facts candidly to the world: We represent the side that has become the victim of "political correctness." We are those who have been called names for simply being who we are. We have been demonized for believing that this nation, and the way it governs, are based on certain principles. We are the ones who pay (by force) the majority of the taxes in this country. We are the ones who have placed the majority of our sons and daughters in harm's way in service of our nation. We have been all but banned from the major media, but they now know we exist. We watched as our basic freedoms were being stolen from us. We fought back. We fought hard. And according to the rules that govern us, we believe we have made a major statement to the world via the ballot box. We have been under assault. Our right of free expression, our right to own property, our right of self-defense and preservation, our right to be governed from our states rather than a federal bureaucracy, and soon, if we do not prevail, our right of adequate representation in our own government. Even our history and that of our ancestors is under attack. The democratic choice that has been made threatens to end (or at least halt) this downward slide. Our adversaries are on the verge of losing all the power they've held over us for the last 40 years. At this time it appears that our adversaries, like tyrants of the past, simply won't accept defeat and are preparing to take steps to take this fight to the next level. We are truly a Nation Divided. Citizens of the World, if our side loses this battle, many of us may not live to see what the outcome will be. We can safely predict that your nations will soon share the same attitude about this nation that many share today -- that it is run by a tyrant, or a beast. You will witness the military and economic power of this nation used against you at the will of a few, not the will of the people. You will be disarmed, disenfranchised, and taught to hate one another. You will be forced to believe that the Government, and not our Creator, is your caretaker and will demand complete control over your lives. We will be vanquished. It is for this reason, that we cannot -- we shall not surrender. We represent a people who believe in a Power Greater than Ourselves. Today, we live with an unsettling fear. Not a fear of what our adversaries will do, but fear of what we may have to do to preserve, protect, and defend our principles, our beliefs, and our posterity. We do not wish this upon ourselves, but many of us fear that our opposition may have removed all other options. America has made its choice. We have chosen to have a "difference of opinion." We have chosen to be divided. For this reason, we ask for your prayers and understanding of what may befall us in the coming days. And to our adversaries -- the enemy camp: It is not the Electoral College that needs to be overhauled. If you cannot agree to the rules as they have been written and to the will of those on our side, then again -- we submit to you an offer of disillusionment. That's right -- another secession. But this time, it's not just Dixie. Over the years, those of us who chose to remove ourselves from the cesspools called "metropolis" have learned what independence means. We are those huddled masses yearning to breathe free. We submit that the State of Washington doesn't need Seattle, Illinois doesn't need Chicago, New York doesn't need New York City, etc. We submit that our children should not be forced to learn what you teach. We submit that our rights to own and defend our property is a right, not a privilege. We submit that "multiculturalism" is not "tolerance", but state-sponsored bigotry against political opposition. We submit that Americans are sovereign by birthright, and that NO man shall ever take that away from us. We submit that if no peaceful solution can be reached, then at least 29 of the 50 sovereign states seek other options. You have tried to silence us, ignore us, demonize us, and even disarm us. Let November 7, 2000 be the day when you have been warned via the ballot box that WE SHALL NOT SURRENDER. Our candidate for president may not have been our first or best choice, but we did choose NOT to be governed by the likes of our opposition. We understand that this campaign has pitted brother against brother, sister against sister, and parent against child, and still does today. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? To our adversaries: We have seen your tactics, we know your strategy. We KNOW you've attempted to deny the right of suffrage to our brethren off our nation's shores and in harm's way. We KNOW you have sought to register those who have not earned the right of suffrage in this country. Still, we prevailed. And we fear that you have little or no plan to simply walk away. If it is war that you are thinking of Eif it is a war that you are planning, let it be known that you will not wage a war against the "unsuspecting." You will name the stakes. You will fire the first shot. You will make the choice. As you have made your positions known to your leaders, we have done likewise. But unlike you, we take orders from a Higher Power, and not from corrupt men. We are as prepared as we were at the end of last year. You have heard our demand. We want our country back. Make no mistake about it - we will and shall continue to use the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and if left with no other choice, the other boxes that you seek to take away from us. As many of us today stand in fear of what may become of us, we cannot and shall not prevail until each of us looks deep within ourselves, understands the crossroad at which we stand, look our adversaries in the eye and say without reservation or hesitation... -- you will have to kill all of us. For God, the Constitution, and Country J.J. Johnson Editor & Chief, Sierra Times.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Articles & Editorials We receive numerous requests to forward Sierra Times articles and editorials to other news outlets, or to publish them on websites. 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The residue of that experience should serve as a primer, a wake-up call after this longest of electoral nights, informing us what will follow the automatic recount of the votes in Florida. The call from Gore will be this: Send in the lawyers. If Bush wins the Florida recount, which he should do, Gore will get this thing into the court system, state or federal, that he and his barrister henchmen think will be most favorably predisposed to challenge counting procedures, poll watchers' complaints, and voting irregularities that might provide a technical wedge to challenge the entire voting process in Florida. In the litigation phase of the Elian affair, a Florida lawyer by the name of Janet Reno, in league with the president's impeachment counsel, Greg Craig, similarly, and improperly, got the matter into federal court when both Al Gore and George W. Bush said it should be decided in state court, where Elian would have prevailed. This "forum shopping," with the stakes immeasurably high, will go on now, again in Florida, big time. The Democrats have already tipped their hand. The Florida attorney general, a Democrat and longtime political crony of Janet Reno by the name of Bob Butterworth, has already said that he will decide for Florida, and the nation, what should be done after the "first recount." So the Democrats have their insider within the state system, ready, willing and able to thwart whatever Florida Governor Jeb Bush might decide to do. This means it ain't over until the Democrats and their lawyers say it is over. Does anyone think that Al Gore, his entire life flashing before him, a law school dropout who has said there is "no controlling legal authority" that binds him on campaign fund-raising illegalities, is going to be bound by propriety in this situation? No, Gore will be bound only by the desperate inventiveness of his legal beagles. He will not be bound by the precedent of Richard Nixon in 1960 letting the theft of Illinois go unchallenged in a court. Gore will challenge everything. His beagles are right now on the scent. They smell blood. There will be a lot more blood and a lot more for all of us to smell before this is over, hopefully before January 20, 2001. And by the way, the lawyer officially charged with investigating Democratic vote fraud officially alleged yesterday by the Broward County Republican Party and reported here first on NewsMax.com, is a lawyer by the name of Janet Reno. Janet Reno has never investigated Democratic vote fraud. She has participated in it. Folks, it's going to come down to this: Gore's lawyers, in league with Attorneys General Butterworth and Reno, pitted against George W. Bush and his legal team. 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By Jack Thompson
Wednesday, Nov. 8, 2000

If America thought it got, in the Elian Gonzalez saga, a bellyful of
lawyers interjecting themselves into a national story and warping
it, thereby traumatizing and polarizing the participants as well as
millions of observers, here is a warning from Elian's former state
of residence: You ain't seen nothing yet.

I have been a lawyer, right here in Florida, for 24 years. I and the
rest of us have seen the artful dodging, the lawyering license, of
this White House's lawyers in the protracted Lewinsky affair. The
residue of that experience should serve as a primer, a wake-up
call after this longest of electoral nights, informing us what will
follow the automatic recount of the votes in Florida.

The call from Gore will be this: Send in the lawyers.

If Bush wins the Florida recount, which he should do, Gore will
get this thing into the court system, state or federal, that he and
his barrister henchmen think will be most favorably predisposed
to challenge counting procedures, poll watchers' complaints, and
voting irregularities that might provide a technical wedge to
challenge the entire voting process in Florida.

In the litigation phase of the Elian affair, a Florida lawyer by the
name of Janet Reno, in league with the president's
impeachment counsel, Greg Craig, similarly, and improperly, got
the matter into federal court when both Al Gore and George W.
Bush said it should be decided in state court, where Elian would
have prevailed. This "forum shopping," with the stakes
immeasurably high, will go on now, again in Florida, big time.

The Democrats have already tipped their hand. The Florida
attorney general, a Democrat and longtime political crony of
Janet Reno by the name of Bob Butterworth, has already said
that he will decide for Florida, and the nation, what should be
done after the "first recount." So the Democrats have their
insider within the state system, ready, willing and able to thwart
whatever Florida Governor Jeb Bush might decide to do.

This means it ain't over until the Democrats and their lawyers
say it is over.

Does anyone think that Al Gore, his entire life flashing before
him, a law school dropout who has said there is "no controlling
legal authority" that binds him on campaign fund-raising
illegalities, is going to be bound by propriety in this situation?

No, Gore will be bound only by the desperate inventiveness of
his legal beagles. He will not be bound by the precedent of
Richard Nixon in 1960 letting the theft of Illinois go unchallenged
in a court. Gore will challenge everything.

His beagles are right now on the scent. They smell blood. There
will be a lot more blood and a lot more for all of us to smell
before this is over, hopefully before January 20, 2001.

And by the way, the lawyer officially charged with investigating
Democratic vote fraud officially alleged yesterday by the
Broward County Republican Party and reported here first on
NewsMax.com, is a lawyer by the name of Janet Reno.

Janet Reno has never investigated Democratic vote fraud. She
has participated in it.

Folks, it's going to come down to this: Gore's lawyers, in league
with Attorneys General Butterworth and Reno, pitted against
George W. Bush and his legal team. Here's one lawyer hoping
Bush's lawyers are more like Greg Craig than Ken Starr.
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- --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_4820800=_=_=_-- - --------------C58A755DDC858996088FFBAA-- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 00 18:38:36 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A fair election? Media silent regarding failure of military absentee ballots (fwd) On Nov 09, Jurist wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Anyone heard this on CNNCBSABCNBCFOXNEWS? WorldNetDaily was initially contacted by U.S. residents and service members who said that, in contrast to prior election years, they had not yet received their absentee ballots -- but that they had requested them in the correct way. Since the report broke, numerous other service members have also contacted the newssite, complaining that they too had not yet received ballots, even though they requested them. http://www.WorldNetDaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001107_xnjdo_bacon_deni.shtml FLORIDA MILITARY VOTES BLOCKED FLORIDA MILITARY VOTES BLOCKED FLORIDA MILITARY VOTES BLOCKED Reports of Blocked Military Votes Still Coming In -- and some of them live in Florida http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com from Angel Shamaya Director, KeepAndBearArms.com 9 November 2000 12:50, PST KeepAndBearArms.com -- We have more confirmed reports of U.S. servicemen and women being prevented from voting. Absentee ballots missing or arriving too late is a larger problem than we'd even have guessed, and we are still receiving new reports as the day wears on. Here are the latest reports: Okinawa -- another confirmed report of no ballot having been provided. In her own words: "I am living on Okinawa. I was active duty until Sep 02-00, and I did ask my unit rep to sign me up to vote -- but heard nothing after that. I did not receive a ballot at all. Yes, I would have voted for Gov. Bush." We also have our first confirmed report from a resident of Florida stationed in America whose ballot didn't arrive until the day before the election. He requested his absentee ballot in September and placed a second request in October. According to him: "I received my Ballot the day after the election. My parents requested my ballot in September, but it was sent to the wrong address. I re-requested a ballot in late October. I live in Florida, and I would have voted for Bush." He's not the only soldier who resides in Florida and didn't receive a ballot -- and would have thrown a vote to Governor Bush. This just came in: "I am a state resident of Florida. In my 16 years in the military I have never NOT received a ballot... until this year. And yes, I would most definitely have voted for Bush." And so it goes. We have a confirmed report in from a couple whose home state is Oregon. She received her ballot, and he didn't. Some military personnel did receive their ballots in time to vote, of course. From our email today: "I am from the state of Illinois, and requested my ballot in September, I received my ballot on November 6th 2000, the ballot needed to be returned by 2 pm on the 7th. I did send my ballot in, and I did vote for BUSH!!" and "I am a soldier stationed in the US at Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania, away from my voting district. Everyone at Carlisle Barracks was provided all forms, etc months in advance. I can tell you that everyone here was encouraged to vote." We are elated to know that some military personnel did get to vote. But the absence of ballots for others is not only puzzling, it is an outrage. How those who received their ballots on the 7th were to accomplish the stated deadline is a mystery. Who helped orchestrate this travesty is no mystery at all. Related Articles Below are All linked at http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com First Report from Okinawa Showing Missing Military Absentee Ballots http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=879 Help Us Find Lost Military Votes -- Survey for Soldiers to Take http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=880 Military Absentee Ballots Missing -- U.S. Military on Assignment Won't Get to Vote http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001104_xnjdo_military_m.shtml Thank you to all who've assisted in blowing this thing wide open. We've had calls from Senators asking servicemen and women to contact their Senators and U.S. Representatives directly. http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm And we continue our request to all military personnel: please fill out our survey from the above link -- especially if you didn't get to vote. Just because you contact your congresscritters doesn't mean that information will get to the Governor. We WILL get it there. Sign up for our free email reports at http://www.KeepAndBearArms.com - ------------------------------------------------------------- Investigate wrongdoing in this election? Bring it on! Rick V. http://www.usvetdsp.com/story31.htm http://www.brasscheck.com/stadium/exhibits/rd.html http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/91/108/04_2_m.html http://www.house.gov/republican-policy/documents/perspectives/USACtzn.htm http://www.voting-integrity.org/ Military missing absentee ballots Some Army, Navy personnel unable to vote for new commander in chief http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001104_xnjdo_military_m.shtml http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20001107_xnjdo_americans_.shtml http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metcalf_news/20001105_xngme_ihow_to_be.shtml http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_fosterj_news/20001107_xnfoj_noncitizen.shtml - ------------------------------------------------------------- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 00 05:41:26 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Vetran's Day (fwd) "On Nov 9, Mike Copeland wrote:" [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] It's that time of year in which we bring these individuals to the forefront of our thoughts on Nov 11. For myself, it is an HONOR & a PRIVILEGE to be counted amongst one of these. Please pass along to your friends & associates who have served & others who haven't, but are proud to be called AMERICANS. Forwarded with pride! WHAT IS A VET? Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Paris Island, San Diego, or Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protester to burn the flag." Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 00 23:18:51 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [The Grip] Patriots arming in record numbers (fwd) On Nov 10, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] TO KEEP THE PEACE, KEEP YOUR PIECE! Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" To: "The Grip" Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: [The Grip] Patriots arming in record numbers > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:44:21 -0500 > From: Dave > Subject: Patriots arming in record numbers > > As the prospects for an American dictatorship under Al Gore grow > daily, Patriots everywhere are preparing for the inevitable > confrontations that are sure to follow. Sales of guns and ammunition > are going through the roof, and emboldened citizens and local > Patriotic sheriffs are squaring off with the Federal Mafia. We could > be witnessing the beginning of the Second American Revolution. -DK- > > ---------- forwarded message ---------- > > We have received word that gun stores in Western States have been > inundated with calls and sales regarding ammunition. We also have > a similar report from Florida. > > Meanwhile, we have another situation brewing in Southern Utah. And > Eastern Rural Nevada. On election day, with the blessing of the Local > Sheriff, The Bullock family, joined by about 15 ranchers, took back > about 45 head of cattle that was stolen by cattle rustlers, known > locally as the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). No shots were fired. > The cattle were returned to their owners from the pending auction. > > "It was pretty Western: Police lined up on one side and us cowboys > were on the other side," Bullock told the Salt Lake Tribune. The U.S. > Attorney and the BLM are upset, to say the least. > > "The U.S. attorney believes this is an utter flaunting of the rule of > law," said Melodie Rydalch, spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney. "We > will pursue all administrative, criminal and civil remedies against > the people who did this. What happened [Tuesday], we can't let that > stand." Rydalch said U.S. attorneys will be in court soon seeking > legal action. > > Once the cattle were returned, there were taken back and released in > an undisclosed location. > > Kane County Sheriff Lamont Smith, anticipating federal law enforcement > action, dispatched his deputies Wednesday to interview Bullock and the > ranchers to find out what happened in Salina. > > Smith said if federal agents attempt to take back the animals from the > ranchers, he will intervene to ensure the agents have proper > documentation. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!!! > DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!! > BY GOD WE SHALL PREVAIL!!! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #400 *************************