From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #422 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Monday, February 5 2001 Volume 02 : Number 422 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 01 17:46:47 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: To the Vietnam Vets (fwd) On Feb 01, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subject: Vietnam Veterans Rendezvous 2001 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:43:08 EST From: CombatvetsmcPres@aol.com To: XuanLoc65@aol.com WHAT: There will be an open rendezvous of Vietnam Veterans held in Mobile, Alabama this summer. Open means everyone, Campers, RVers, bikers, EVERYONE. WHERE: Chickasabogue Park (Campground) off I-65 (actually Saraland, Alabama) WHEN: Beginning, Thursday, July 26th 2001 thru Sunday, July 29th. WHY: To bring ALL men & women who served in-country, and those we refer to as era veterans together for the purpose of strengthening the brotherhood, renewing old friendships, etc. Planned Events: Tours to Battleship Park. Site of the Alabama Vietnam Veterans Memorial, home of the battleship Alabama, Aircraft display including Calamity Jane - B-52 that flew numerous missions over the Nam. Flyover by the Blue Angels (Pensacola is about an hours drive away). Skydiving demo by the Golden Knights - US Army parachute team. Excursions: "The Boats" at Biloxi - the casinos are less than an hours drive. Notables: we have been assured that one of the most decorated soldiers of the Vietnam War will be on hand (Medal of Honor recipient), and one of our most well known Prisoners-of-War. Reps from VFW, American Legion, DAV, Vietnam Vets of America, Amvets, etc, etc. The evenings are unplanned, small camp fires, good food, drink, and kicked back story telling. Gonna be a blast for the past, you gotta be there. For this to be a success we need you to forward this announcement to as many folks as possible. Our new website is up and running click on this link to check it out: Vietnam Veterans Rendezvous 2001 AND, we need to have you respond ASAP if planning to attend. There are quite a few support activities that need staffing, and we need your help. We expect approx. 700 - 1000 folks to attend. We want this to be a healing for all who attent, if one veteran is "helped" the rendezvous wi'll be a success. There is a destiny that makes all combat veterans brothers no one goes his way alone What you send out into the lives of others comes back into your own [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 01 22:20:48 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Unratify treaties (fwd) On Feb 01, Charles Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Have not checked out///////////////////////// >From: Bruce Chesley >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:03:30 -0500 >Subject: Unratify treaties > > Sooo, you think you own your property..... >Bruce Chesley >Truth is a terrible cross to bear. >Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine >Treason for $$$: ALL "pro 2A" orgs. >--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- >From: "M.O.M." >To: "m.o.m. email alert list" >Subject: Unratify treaties >Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:36:37 -0700 >Message-ID: <3A7A0114.AA814F62@blackfoot.net> > >Republicans Demand Un-Ratification of > Treaties > By William F. Jud - Posted: 01.30.00 > > Members of the Madison County Missouri Republican Club voted > unanimously at their 27 January 2001 meeting in Fredericktown, > Missouri, to demand that the U.S. Senate un-ratify a package > of 34 treaties which the Senate ratified by a show of hands on > 18 October 2000. > > The package of 34 treaties includes the the U. N. Convention > To Combat Desertification, or "Desertification Treaty," which > effectively puts land use in much of United States under United > Nations control for a minimum of four years and potentially > forever, and the International Plant Protection Convention. Both > treaties subject United States internal environmental policy to > United Nations international control . > > It is the opinion of Republican Club members that the slipshod, > Unconstitutional way in which the Senate ratified the package > of 34 treaties is sufficient grounds for un-ratifying and voiding > all 34 treaties including the Desertification and Plant Protection > treaties. The Republican Club maintains that the October 18 > ratification of the treaties is null and void because proper > procedure was not followed. The Club demands that formal > un-ratification by the Senate of the package of 34 treaties be > done before February 15 when the treaties would become > effective if allowed to stand. > > The package of 34 treaties was ratified on 18 October 2000 by > a show of hands by Senators who were present. There is no > recorded vote and no way, other than asking each Senator, to > know who voted for or against. A quorum may not even have > been present. The ratified Desertification Treaty, which > President Clinton signed in 1994, was delivered to the United > Nations by the Clinton Administration on November 17 and will > go into effect on 15 February 2001 if allowed to stand, binding > the United States to international law which claims power and > authority to control use of 73% of the earth's rangeland and > 47% of the earth's cropland. > > The United Nations seeks to control the remaining > approximately 30% of the earth's land through the Convention > On Biological Diversity. The United Nations Commission On > Water For The 21st Century is working on a companion treaty > to control use of the earth's water. The goal is creation of a > United Nations bureaucracy to restrict and control through > international law the use of all natural resources in compliance > with United Nations Agenda 21 and principles of Sustainable > Development. > > Under the Treaties, United Nations enforcers could stop and > reverse any activity which they believe may move land closer > to a desert condition. Examples of prohibited activity include > converting forest land to pasture, or pasture to cropland, or > cropland to industrial, commercial or housing uses. Control > applies to all land, whether publicly or privately owned. > Enforcement would be through the newly created International > Criminal Court which claims self-granted authority to prosecute > American citizens, in foreign courts with no Constitutional > protection, for "environmental" crimes. > > The Desertification Treaty contains requirements for approving > school environmental curricula, and for massive and ongoing > transfer of funds and technology from rich nations such as the > United States to poor nations everywhere. > Non-Governmental-Organizations (NGOs) such as the Sierra > Club are guaranteed participation in setting international and > domestic land use policies. Land owners are excluded from the > process of making and implementing land use policy. > > In an outrageous display of legislative malpractice, Treaty > ratification was done without parliamentary procedure, review, > comment, debate, and recorded vote, which makes a mockery > of the Constitutional process and puts American citizens > increasingly under control of a United Nations bureaucracy > whose Socialist member nations have a long track record of > opposing United States interests. > > The Madison County Missouri Republican Club is in contact with > President Bush and Missouri Senators Bond and Carnahan to > demand that the Desertification and Plant Protection Treaties > and the rest of the treaties in the catch-all package of 34 be > immediately un-ratified and voided and that no treaty be > approved in the future unless proper, Constitutional procedure > is followed. > >-- >**COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, >any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use >without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest >in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and >educational >purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] > >Join the Militia of Montana Email Alert List by writing to: >militia@montana.com with "SUBSCRIBE" in the Subject Line! > >For the latest in great survival, preparedness and politically incorrect >materials visit our Online Catalog at: > > http://www.militiaofmontana.com. Some great deals are to be had! Or, >send $2.00 to the address below for a copy of our 40+ page Preparedness >Catalog. > >Militia of Montana >P.O. Box 1486, Noxon, MT 59853 >Tel: 406-847-2735 n Fax: 406-847-2246 > >Remove yourself from this list by writing to: militia@montana.com and >type "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the subject line. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 09:13:16 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VOTE.COM: IS BUSH'S TAX CUT PLAN TOO RISKY? (fwd) On Feb 1, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Congressional Democrats Warn That Bush's Tax Cut Plan May Be Too Risky: Do You Agree? GO FOR IT! http://www.vote.com/category/4075633/ Archibald Bard [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 09:14:45 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Taxation withoutrepresentation (fwd) On Feb 02, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subject: [Lis-LEAF] Taxation with one twentieth of the Representation Required by the Constitution? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:55:09 -0800 From: "ICE" To: "\"Ice-Bucket\"" , "R.J. Tavel/Lisleaf" All, Here's a new one on me. The Congress changed the Constitution by an Act of Congress, without an amendment, when it restricted the House of Representatives to 435 members, thus setting up the ludicrous ratio of "representation" that we have currently (at least in Washington state's 1st District) of some 660,000 to one "representative", I believe -- over twenty times the ratio specifically prescribed by the Constitution. Am I missing something here? Surely this matter has not been overlooked for over 70 years. "Taxation without representation" rides again! ;-) ICE - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gunderson To: ICE Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Take another look Article I, section 2, clause 3: states among other things: "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand". And by the act of congress of June 18, 1929, it restricted the size of the House of Representatives to 435. 46 Stat 26, 22 as amended by 55 Stat 761 (1941) 2USC section 2a. >From the US CONSTITUTION ANNOTATED, a document of some 2700+ pages complied by the Congressional Research Service: Ultimately, by the act of June 18, 1929, it provided that the membership of the House of representatives should henceforth be restricted to 435 members, to be distributed among the states by the so-called ''method of major fractions,'' which had been earlier employed in the apportionment of 1911 and which has now been replaced with the ''method of equal proportions.'' Following the 1990 census, a State that had lost a House seat as a result of the use of this formula sued (see footnote below), alleging a violation of the ''one person, one vote'' rule. Exhibiting considerable deference to Congress and a stated appreciation of the difficulties in achieving interstate equalities, the Supreme Court upheld the formula and the resultant apportionment. FOOTNOTE: U.S. Department of Commerce v. Montana, 112 S.Ct. 1415 (1992). The practice of the Secretary of Commerce in allocating overseas federal employees and military personnel to the States of last residence was attacked but upheld in Franklin v. Massachusetts, 112 S.Ct. 2767 (1992). The mandate of the clause of an enumeration of ''their respective numbers'' was complied with, it having been the practice since the first enumeration to allocate persons to the place of their ''usual residence,'' and to construe both this term and the word ''inhabitant'' broadly to include people temporarily absent. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ICE wrote: John, Is that written in the Constitution itself? Do you have a specific cite that could be posted along with it? That would be a good one to circulate along with the authoritative cite to support it. ICE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunderson" To: "ACT" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Take another look > Anyone ever bothered to read the constitution? > > The Constitutional guideline is "The Number of Representatives shall > not exceed one for every thirty Thousand"; now we have one for > approximately every 454,000 people. Taxation without representation > anyone? > > Isn't government wonderful? > > Don't forget to pay "your" income tax -- help support this fraud. It > must be your civic duty! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 01 22:57:49 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: NY (fwd) On Feb 02, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subject: [Lis-LEAF] New York offers $500.00 Reward: Turn in your Gun Owner Neighbors! Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 20:48:41 -0500 From: "Paul E Zimmerman" Reply-To: plj1202@lycos.com Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) To: "Paul Zimmerman" Source: http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=1221 Date: 2/1/2001 6:43:00 PM Written By: Cliff New York offers $500.00 Reward: Turn In Your Gun Owner Neighbors! from Cliff defender@rovin.net February 1, 2001 Dear Civil Rights Defender, After seeing some literature reminiscent of a Nazi Germany type "turn in your neighbor" policy at a New York City Community Council meeting last week, I have finally obtained documentation from one of my NYC PD inside contacts. What follows below is the official Police Department City of New York Auxiliary Police Section A.P.S. Bulletin # 001 January 12, 2001 Subject: Auxiliary Police Participation "Operation Gun Stop which follows directly from the official Chief of Department Memo #1, Subject: Operation Gun Stop, cs 01-12-01. Please see the fully transcribed copy of the document, "Operation Gun Stop" below. If you wish to see a photocopy of the actual document, click here. The effect of the New York City policy, as directly quoted from the document, is that: "... private citizens will be able to anonymously provide this Department with information regarding individuals or locations involved with illegal handguns. Individuals who provide information that leads to an arrest for such sale/possession will be eligible for a cash reward of $500. ..." As this demonstrates, individuals can secretly make the accusation, the police will perform the raid, and YOU will be arrested. You will NOT be able to face your secret accuser. Your accuser may NOT even have any real knowledge substantiating his claim. But, that does NOT matter. We are ALL hostage to the whim of our neighbors -- just like in an oppressive totalitarian regime we live in fear if we exercise our now impotent rights! This new initiative will be a widespread, well funded operation seeking to enlist the participation of as many residents as possible. There will be a variety of promotional literature posted and handed out in the community as well as at public city events. There will be advertising, as well. The city is serious about the recruitment of New Yorkers to turn in their neighbors in order to eradicate non-registered gun ownership. Additionally, I do NOT recall that the literature that I read at the New York City Community Council meeting last week limited the program to hand guns only! Any secret accusation will cause the police to come into your home. Anything that they find that is NOT in perfect COMPLIANCE with the myriad of confusing laws will result in an arrest and confiscation. This does NOT just apply to handguns! The "Operation Gunstop" is just an excuse to enter and search your premises. Just remember what has been happening in Connecticut since their "danger to oneself/public/firearms" snitch law went into effect in October 1999. All neighbors with a grudge against you have to do is call the police claiming that you are acting "odd" and that they "feel" that you may be a danger to yourself. The police will promptly come and confiscate your legally owned firearms. Good luck getting them back. I will have to wait until the complete package of literature arrives before I can be sure that the city will be encouraging its own citizens to turn in their neighbors who may own ANY type of firearm. Please read on below, and use the links provided to make contact with the appropriate officials to express your opinion of this program. Thank you. With Liberty, Cliff - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text of Actual Government Memo POLICE DEPARTMENT CITY OF NEW YORK AUXILIARY POLICE SECTION A.P.S. BULLETIN # 001 JANUARY 12, 2001 SUBJECT: AUXILIARY POLICE PARTICIPATION "OPERATION GUN STOP" 1. As part of our Department's Policing NYC:2001 strategy, "Operation Gun Stop" has been created whereby members of the public will be encouraged to participate in our effort to combat illegal sale and/or possession of handguns. Under this program, private citizens will be able to anonymously provide this Department with information regarding individuals or locations involved with illegal handguns. Individuals who provide information that leads to an arrest for such sale/possession will be eligible for a cash reward of $500. Auxiliary police officers while performing patrol and community activities are in a key position to convey this invaluable information to private citizens in their community and accordingly have been requested to assist in this endeavor. 2. Auxiliary police officers have been requested by both the Chief of the Department and Chief of Patrol to participate in disseminating information to the general public regarding "Operation Gun Stop". To begin, auxiliary police coordinators are to immediately confer with their Commanding Officer and or Executive Officer for instruction relative to their individual command's strategy for utilization of auxiliary police officers in distribution and dissemination of information to the public. In order to promote the GUN STOP initiative, auxiliary police coordinators shall then be responsible to ensure that their auxiliary police personnel are informed of and distribute informational material (flyers, posters, and cards). Refer to instructions as per CHIEF OF DEPARTMENT MEMO #1, Subject: Operation Gun Stop, cs 01-12-01. 3. All commands will receive "Operation Gun Stop" informational materials which include 3 1/2" x 4 1/2 "cards, 8 1/2 x 11" flyers, and 11" x 17" posters. All auxiliary police coordinators shall acquire these materials from their command and or the borough auxiliary police coordinator for distribution by auxiliary police personnel. Members of the Auxiliary Police Program should take advantage of any contact(s) with the public, to make citizens aware of "Operation Gun Stop". Auxiliary police officers may distribute these materials to the public while on patrol and or at special events and details, recruitment drives, street fairs, and community meetings, etc. 4. All auxiliary police coordinators and auxiliary police commanding officers shall make "Operation Gun Stop" strategy their priority and ensure that all auxiliary police assigned are familiar with it's goals and are actively participating. 5. For your information and compliance. Angelo J. Maroulis Captain cc: Chief of Department Chief of Patrol A.P.S. BULLETIN # 001 JANUARY 12, 2001 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here to see original NYC PD document: http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/NYOpGunStop.jpg - --- ******************************************************************************************* A general state education is a mere contrivance for moulding people to be exactly like one another; and the mould in which it casts them is that which pleases the predominant power in government. - John Stuart Mill ******************************************************************************************* "I am sure there was no man born marked of God above another for none comes into the world with a saddle upon his back, neither any booted and spurred to ride him."- Last words of Richard Rumbold before being hanged for planning an insurrection against the tyrant Charles II, 1679 Get your small business started at Lycos Small Business at http://www.lycos.com/business/mail.html Liberty's Educational Advocacy Forum http://freedomlaw.com promotes "action that raises the cost of State violence for its perpetrators ... lay(ing) the basis for institutional change." 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Scalia] http://freedomlaw.com/T&S/ NEW: SUBSCRIBE TO Lis-LEAF the Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service at http://freedomlaw.com/FORM.html Community email addresses: Unsubscribe: Lis-LEAF-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: Lis-LEAF-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Lis-LEAF [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 01 09:31:29 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - Columbine Parents Question Sons Death. (fwd) On Feb 03, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - An issue here is the caliber & bullet markings would have to match the HRT team's ordnance, which is likely to be easily verifible if none of the bullets matched the killers' guns... Columbine Parents: Cops Shot Our Son Thursday, February 1, 2001 - Associated Press http://www.foxnews.com/national/columbine/index.sml The autopsy done on a Columbine student whose parents claim he was shot by sheriff's deputies shows that two bullets entered his chest and abdomen, with one resting in his body and the other exiting through his back. [photo] Oct. 2, 2000: Rich Petrone, whose stepson Danny Rohrbough was killed during the Columbine shootings, speaks in Golden, Colo. Daniel Rohrbough's parents allege student gunmen Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris could not have shot their son from the front because witnesses saw Daniel running from the gunmen. "The only other people with guns that day were law-enforcement officers," said Jim Rouse, the parents' attorney. Jefferson County spokeswoman Jennifer Watson said the county would not comment. Rohrbough and Daniel's mother, Sue Petrone, are suing the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office and others, claiming the deaths at Columbine could have been prevented. Daniel's autopsy, released Wednesday to fulfill a judge's order, showed that the 15-year-old died of extensive injuries to his chest resulting in excessive bleeding. The autopsy also showed Daniel was shot in the leg during the April 20, 1999, attack when Harris and Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher in the nation's worst school shooting before taking their own lives. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 10:08:23 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Million Mom Activist convicted of shooting man (fwd) On Feb 5, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I kid you not. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21617 Million Mom activist convicted in shooting Bereaved mother shot wrong man after son killed By Jon Dougherty 2001 WorldNetDaily.com A bereaved mother whose son was shot and killed nearly two years ago -- and who spoke out against gun violence and memorialized shooting victims at the "Million Mom March" rally in Washington, D.C., last Mother's Day -- was herself convicted of shooting a man she wrongly believed was her son's killer. [snip] Officials with the group, which has its main office in San Francisco General Hospital, did not return phone calls on Friday seeking comments about Graham's involvement with the Mother's Day speech or her conviction [snip] What hypocrisy! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 19:38:05 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: GovExec.com Bill Tracker Available (fwd) On Feb 5, rzellich@csc.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] NEW! BILL TRACKER NOW AVAILABLE! Use Bill Tracker to track the status of the bills that matter to you most. Bill Tracker is permanently featured on the left-hand column of GovExec.com, above "Calendar". http://capwiz.com/govexec/issues/bills/ - --- I used keyword "firearm" to search the Senate bills, and got 44 hits - a few of them are pretty obviously not firearms-related (one had the BATF name spelled out in full in a tax bill, for instance), but most were. Pretty much a laundry list of anti-gun bills...where the hell are the Republican-submitted bills to repeal the Brady Act, GCA 68, etc.? It can't hurt to submit them, and waste the time of the anti-gunners in the various committees, they way they submit anti-gun bills and wast the time of everybody else in the committees. Searching the House bills returned 96 hits - at least there were some recognizable pro-gun bills in that list...plus some real pieces of Sarah Brady wet-dream crap...sheesh... Then there was this one; what the heck is this about?: For the relief of Herman J. Koehler, III. Bill # H.R. 1397 Original Sponsor: Rep. Don Young (R-AK 99th) Sponsor/Cosponsor Total: 1 as of (12/13/1999) 0 Democrats 1 Republicans 0 Independents About This Legislation: 4/13/1999--Introduced. Relieves a named individual of any disabilities imposed upon him which prohibited him from shipping or transporting in interstate or foreign commerce, or possessing in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition, or from receiving such firearm or ammunition as a result of his conviction of a conspiracy to commit an offense against or to defraud the United States. - -Rich [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 01 20:36:32 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: EIA Communique - 2/5 (fwd) On Feb 5, Kevin M. McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From: To: Sent: 05 February, 2001 15:37 Subject: EIA Communique - 2/5 The Education Intelligence Agency COMMUNIQU -- February 5, 2001 On the Web at http://members.aol.com/educintel/eia 1) Breaking News: Misfire on NEA Gun Control Petitions? 2) NEA-Alaska, Staff Reach Tentative Agreement 3) Union, Governor Prepare for Hawaii Strike 4) Pennsylvania Union Ratchets Up Rally Pressure 5) Real World Education Reform Redux 6) Utah House Passes Paycheck Protection Bill 7) EIA Archives Repaired, Upgraded 8) Quotes of the Week + Breaking News: Misfire on NEA Gun Control Petitions? The 2000 NEA Representative Assembly required union headquarters to disseminate petitions calling for "meaningful gun control," to gather them together by January 15, 2001, and to deliver them to Congress no later than February 1, 2001. Did you see the petitions delivered on the evening news? Did you read about it in the New York Times or Washington Post? Did the NRA release a statement denouncing the effort? No? That's because NEA is still gathering petitions, now more than three weeks past the deadline. NEA Communications is in the process of passing details to EIA as this communiqu goes to press. EIA has heard anecdotal evidence that ad hoc efforts by gun-owning NEA members had a detrimental effect on signature-gathering in a number of states, but there is no clear sign of how widespread such efforts were, or whether they have any relation to the delay. When NEA delivers the information, EIA will, as a matter of course, pass it on to you. + NEA-Alaska, Staff Reach Tentative Agreement. NEA-Alaska and its staff union reached a tentative agreement on a four-year contract, effectively putting an end to the nearly three week long strike by union employees. Details of the terms are as yet unavailable. The staff union easily won the propaganda war, getting a letter from receptionist/secretary Kimila Cherry published in the Anchorage Daily News. Ms. Cherry, who was hired four months ago by NEA-Alaska, told readers she makes $21,500 a year and that the NEA-Alaska contract proposals "would push my family back onto public assistance." Well, Ms. Cherry is no doubt accurately describing her personal situation, but it bears noting the average NEA-Alaska support staffer (secretaries, receptionists and other low-level assistants) made $44,425 in 1995. Either Ms. Cherry is being robbed, or she's due for a big raise pretty soon, new contract or not. The next staff union hijinks will likely occur once again in California, where the California Teachers Association and its staff union, the California Staff Organization, will begin bargaining in April. CSO accepted a one-year deal last September in order to avoid labor unrest prior to the November elections. + Union, Governor Prepare for Hawaii Strike. "No textbooks, no contract!" declared Hawaii Gov. Ben Cayetano, reflecting his position that $40 million proposed for technology and textbooks should take precedence over the four-year, 22 percent pay hike the Hawaii State Teachers Association is seeking. "I think it's wrong for educators to hold hostage these basic tools for learning so that they can get more pay," Cayetano said. "I hope the HSTA backs off from that position." HSTA also received bad news from the Democrat-dominated legislature, which originally was going to produce a budget that included 14.5 percent raises for all public employee unions. But now, legislative leaders say they can't produce that amount without cuts elsewhere. In the meantime, HSTA isn't sitting on its hands. NEA is already asking staffers from affiliates in Western states to volunteer to work two-week terms in Hawaii if HSTA goes on strike in the spring. Though a strike seems unavoidable, there is some sense that this all may be street theater before the usual solution is invoked. "If it is the policy of the House to pay as you go and you exhaust the fund balance and you can't pay HSTA, it forces us into a corner of raising taxes, which a lot of us don't want," said House Speaker Calvin Say. Translation: We have to pretend to fight before we surrender or the GOP may pick up another seven seats next year. + Pennsylvania Union Ratchets Up Rally Pressure. The Pennsylvania State Education Association has been planning its March 4 Rally for Children and Public Education at the state Capitol in Harrisburg for more than seven months. Nevertheless, it appears PSEA is less than thrilled with the initial number of participants. "Some locals have not reported any attendance by anybody including the local president," PSEA Communications admonished union activists in an e-mail message. "It appears some of the largest locals never passed out the fliers we prepared before Thanksgiving!" The union plans to have rally coordinators contact each local president by mail to increase the body count. + Real World Education Reform Redux. Last November, EIA devoted a large portion of a communiqu to examining what happens to education reforms after they are implemented. The evidence suggested that so much effort was expended in getting reforms passed, that no one had energy remaining to ensure they were achieving the desired results. Latest case in point: Philadelphia's staff hiring reform. Last year, the Philadelphia School District braved union opposition to include a new contract provision that would allow individual schools to choose their own teachers, rather than rely on the seniority system. The Philadelphia Federation of Teachers ultimately acquiesced, but insisted that such hiring could only be done by committees made up of both teachers and administrators, and then only after two-thirds of the staff approved. With those strictures in place, only 44 schools out of 260 even bothered to hold an election on the idea. And of those 44, only 12 approved it. "I think 12 is a good amount because we haven't done this before," Marj Adler, the district's executive director of human resources told Education Week. "This will enable us to get the kinks out." + Utah House Passes Paycheck Protection Bill. The Utah Education Association had been feeling its oats the last six months, staging a one-day walkout and demanding higher salaries and smaller classes. Last week, the Utah House fired back, passing a bill that would ban the automatic deduction of PAC contributions from the paychecks of public employees. The bill is expected to easily pass the Senate. UEA is already planning a court challenge if Gov. Mike Leavitt signs the bill into law. Such paycheck protection laws in other states have had a dramatic effect on union PAC contributions, but very little effect on union political activities. Funds that previously would have gone directly to candidates were instead applied to independent expenditures, or other "political information" activities. The end result has made virtually no difference in the political landscape. Utah, however, may be a different test case because it will be the first state (to my knowledge) to have both paycheck protection and right-to-work laws, which means unions will not be able to compel payments in other forms without the risk of losing members. + EIA Archives Repaired, Upgraded. My apologies to those of you who have been having difficulties wrestling with the EIA Communiqu archives. The problems have been corrected and you should have no problem with keyword searches of all EIA bulletins dating back to November 22, 1999 (if you need something further back, to the origins of EIA on June 22, 1997, please e-mail EducIntel@aol.com). In addition, you can now call up the text of communiqu s, by date, directly from the archives index page. + Quote of the Week #1. "Personally, I don't think there are bad teachers." - -- Julie Nau, president of Wake-NCAE, the Wake County affiliate of the North Carolina Association of Educators. (Raleigh News & Observer, January 31, 2001) + Quote of the Week #2. "Some schools are reputed to have gone overboard, assigning hours and hours of homework, and doubtless they should moderate their zeal. But the mass emotional appeal of this book seems drawn from a more insidious source, namely that today's parents cannot tolerate the least emotional discomfort in their children. The smallest tantrum throws them into panic. It seems that parents don't want to be parents anymore. It's too painful to discipline children when we want them to be our friends. The last thing we want is to alienate' them by insisting that they do their homework. What many parents and teachers have lost sight of is that the most important lesson homework teaches is personal responsibility and self-discipline. Homework is practice for life." -- John D. Gartner, assistant professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, reviewing the book The End of Homework: How Homework Disrupts Families, Overburdens Children, and Limits Learning, by Etta Kravolec and John Buell, in the January 22, 2001 issue of National Review. # # # The Education Intelligence Agency conducts public education research, analysis and investigations. Director: Mike Antonucci. Ph: 916-422-4373. Fax: 916-392-1482. 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