RE: [roswell] 4/17/00

www.thewb-levi.com

Mel

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Subject: [roswell] Roswell's official = site is=20 up and running

Hey Guys,

Check out www.thewb.com=20 for a link to the new official Roswell website. It has some awesome = photos=20 from the Levis ads and a place to submit questions for the cast. = There's also=20 cool flash cards, an opportunity to sign up for the official Roswell=20 newslettter and lots of other cool stuff. This is a very good sign = don't you=20 think? Gina :)

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------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BF9E5E.36A12C70-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CryptykGrl@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 05 Apr 2000 19:34:24 EDT Well...isn't the site made by Levi? I mean, I totally agree with you, I loved the pictures they had there, but they really should have included the other cast members. Erin In a message dated 4/5/00 3:07:09 AM, melroswellfan@yahoo.com writes: >Was anyone else semi-disappointed in the official site? I was very upset > >when I when there and saw nothing about Colin, Nick, or even William. I >know > >they are not on as much, but they are a very important part of the show. >I > >ulike how they used the levi's ads..but come on...lets not make the site >on > >big Levi's ad...LOL > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ~L Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 05 Apr 2000 23:29:05 -0500 the main thing i didn't like about the site was that i couldn't bookmark it to check back periodically. anybody else have that, too? > Was anyone else semi-disappointed in the official site? I was very > upset when I when there and saw nothing about Colin, Nick, or even > William. I know they are not on as much, but they are a very important > part of the show. I ulike how they used the levi's ads..but come > on...lets not make the site on big Levi's ad...LOLAnyone > else..comments about the site?www.thewb-levi.comMel Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 05 Apr 2000 19:51:29 -0400 Yes..the site is made and paid for by Levi's..but then why call it the official fansite when it officially dismisses some of the key cast members...LOL..Don't get me wrong..I love the pics and astuff on the site..I'm just greddy..I want more...LOL Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of CryptykGrl@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:34 PM Well...isn't the site made by Levi? I mean, I totally agree with you, I loved the pictures they had there, but they really should have included the other cast members. Erin In a message dated 4/5/00 3:07:09 AM, melroswellfan@yahoo.com writes: >Was anyone else semi-disappointed in the official site? I was very upset > >when I when there and saw nothing about Colin, Nick, or even William. I >know > >they are not on as much, but they are a very important part of the show. >I > >ulike how they used the levi's ads..but come on...lets not make the site >on > >big Levi's ad...LOL > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: haas.68@osu.edu Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 06 Apr 2000 10:10:06 -0400 You can bookmark the page that asks you whether you want the flash or the html site. Erin At 11:29 PM 4/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: >the main thing i didn't like about the site was that i couldn't bookmark >it to check back periodically. anybody else have that, too? > > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 06 Apr 2000 17:26:12 -0500 Well, the graphics are quite exceptional, but one does definitely get the feeling that it's geared more for marketing than for the television show itself. For instance, look at the official site for Buffy the Vampire slayer at http://www.buffy.com. Although they've had a 'store' link for sometime, it never has worked. It's excellent to download credits and review the show synopsis. I wished the official Roswell site was similar. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com > > the main thing i didn't like about the site was that i couldn't bookmark > it to check back periodically. anybody else have that, too? Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RayneFire2@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 06 Apr 2000 23:26:19 EDT mikestone65@home.com writes: > For instance, look at the official site for Buffy the Vampire slayer > at http://www.buffy.com. Although they've had a 'store' link for sometime, > it never has worked. Uh, Mike? The store has been active on that site for quite awhile now! *g* Rayne Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 06 Apr 2000 12:32:52 -0400 you can bookmark www.thewb-levi.com Hope this helps ya -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of ~L Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:29 AM the main thing i didn't like about the site was that i couldn't bookmark it to check back periodically. anybody else have that, too? > Was anyone else semi-disappointed in the official site? I was very > upset when I when there and saw nothing about Colin, Nick, or even > William. I know they are not on as much, but they are a very important > part of the show. I ulike how they used the levi's ads..but come > on...lets not make the site on big Levi's ad...LOLAnyone > else..comments about the site?www.thewb-levi.comMel Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 06 Apr 2000 18:41:08 -0400 You are so right Mike...the buffy site is what an official site should be. I really wonder if it is the official site, I mean, it doesn't even really have its own URL..just a subdivision of www.thewb.com And I think they could have at least made it thewb-roswell..NOT levi...That is what make me think it is truly just an ad and a real site will come later if its renewed. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Stone Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 6:26 PM Well, the graphics are quite exceptional, but one does definitely get the feeling that it's geared more for marketing than for the television show itself. For instance, look at the official site for Buffy the Vampire slayer at http://www.buffy.com. Although they've had a 'store' link for sometime, it never has worked. It's excellent to download credits and review the show synopsis. I wished the official Roswell site was similar. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com > > the main thing i didn't like about the site was that i couldn't bookmark > it to check back periodically. anybody else have that, too? Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell's official site is up and running Date: 07 Apr 2000 12:31:56 -0500 D'oh! Why haven't I been able to get anything on there? Maybe it's that game that has never worked... Anyhoo, at least there is an 'official' Roswell web site now. That's somewhat encouraging that there will be another season. I'd feel better, though, if it had its own domain name and not ran by Levi. So the store really works? Hmm... :) > -----Original Message----- > Uh, Mike? The store has been active on that site for quite > awhile now! *g* > > Rayne Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RayneFire2@aol.com Subject: [roswell] New Roswell Merchandise Date: 08 Apr 2000 13:48:30 EDT Speaking of stores, Powerstar got a whole bunch of new Roswell stuff (http://www.roswellstore.com) Magnets, keychains, a memoboard, stickers, new photos, etc. Just thought I'd mention it. :-) Rayne Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] New Roswell Merchandise Date: 08 Apr 2000 22:48:54 -0400 OMG I went there and the stuff is awesome..I have to get another job just to buy everything! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of RayneFire2@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 1:49 PM Speaking of stores, Powerstar got a whole bunch of new Roswell stuff (http://www.roswellstore.com) Magnets, keychains, a memoboard, stickers, new photos, etc. Just thought I'd mention it. :-) Rayne Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hayley willis" Subject: Re: [roswell] New Roswell Merchandise Date: 10 Apr 2000 16:08:01 +0930 Please can all Roswell fans in America help the fans in Australia. We've only had the show for four weeks and already channel nine has moved it from Monday 8:30 to Friday 10:40 to not on at all. Please enter the Roswell discussion board at http://discussion.ninemsn.com.au to tell channel nine how great Roswell is and how it will be a stupid decision to not let Australia see the first season of this amazing show. Thankyou, Hayley -----Original Message----- >OMG I went there and the stuff is awesome..I have to get another job just to >buy everything! > >Mel > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of RayneFire2@aol.com >Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 1:49 PM >To: roswell@lists.xmission.com >Subject: [roswell] New Roswell Merchandise > > >Speaking of stores, > >Powerstar got a whole bunch of new Roswell stuff >(http://www.roswellstore.com) > >Magnets, keychains, a memoboard, stickers, new photos, etc. > >Just thought I'd mention it. :-) > >Rayne > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jodie" Subject: [roswell] Jason Behr article Date: 10 Apr 2000 19:34:46 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BFA323.D450A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a great article on Jason and Roswell in the Minnapolis Star = Tribune today = http://www.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisStory=3D81546278 = =20 just thought I'd share =3D) Jodie ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Jodie's Bryan White Page ~ http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/7923/=20 ~ Seeing Stars... 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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BFA323.D450A120-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 10 Apr 2000 22:06:01 -0500 Okay, was there anyone out who missed tonight's episode because of the new night? Didn't think so. :) Thoroughly enjoyable episode -- probably even more fast paced than the pilot episode, "Roswell High." Looks like the "Sexual Healing" episode spilled over just a bit into this episode with all the face 'suckage,' but what happened with the conclusion? I was expecting a parent-child lecture of some sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting for them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. Anyhoo, like Liz, I was very trusting of what Topolsky had to say and was not believing of the doctor at all. I think it's safe to say the next thing we hear about Topolsky is her body being discovered somewhere. I was glad to see that the Sheriff is proving to be a true ally of the gang, but I feel he too was duped at the end by Nacedo-Doctor. The only problem with that, is how was it possible that the Sheriff was fed so much bogus information, and believed it all? How could Nacedo pull all that off? Does he too manage to work under cover, and the FBI doesn't even know his true identity? And what's going to happen to Valenti now that he has the orb-communication-thingy-majig? I'm also curious if anyone knows what the ratings were for the show tonight? I'd definitely give this episode a 9.0 out of 10, and not getting the full 10 because of the lack of closure from the previous episode, and for making us think it was Tess that was causing all this commotion. *Never* trust the promos. :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 10 Apr 2000 23:03:02 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA340.EC6771E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It seems the = buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to admit = that I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new = "direction" the show was going to take. While I enjoy the science = fiction aspect of the show, it=92s the little relationship moments that = have really touched me beyond belief. However, the writers proved how = capable and in tune with the characters they really are with tonight=92s = episode. After seeing this, I can see the initial vision of the show a = little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I honestly felt it was = "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I for one am loving it.The = episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) I really liked the "Previously seen on Roswell" clips that started = the show. It was a great set of clips and a good "cliff notes" version = for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't get people in, = nothing will.=20 2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is it? The three main = couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how they're = handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation. A) Liz and Max: Ahhh, the quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were = so sweet tonight and very "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity = between "Sexual Healing" and "Crazy" which is something that the writers = have been a little laxed about. It was also interesting to see Max and = Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue and it was even better to = see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz would cower a little = but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs deep and that Liz = is really scared for Max and what could potentially always be a threat = to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how deep their = connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, even if = for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a normal = couple. B) Maria and Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to = Max and Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor = students, both are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both are = incredibly rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times have = this great symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are like = oil and water. Watching them is like watching a roller coaster ride with = its ups and downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. This = works for them in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were incredible = tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max and Liz have, the = desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the bickering, = the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods where Maria = WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. Great scene, = very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. = Awesome acting! C) Alex and Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are = both really fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure = out. One thing is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, = for someone to love her, for someone to understand her, but most = importantly, lonely for someone to want to know her back. I imagine = she's used to people wanting to know her because she's pretty and = popular(though we've never seen her with "friends" other than in the Toy = House, her popularity is alluded to many times throughout the series) no = one really has ever wanted to know the real her. That's sort of why the = Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a completely different = clique of students yet has the same isolation issues that Isabel has. = Not many people want to get to know Alex either. He's not overly popular = or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can persevere. 3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien hunters": Just had to = say that Julie Benz was awesome tonight. Her trepidation and fear were = palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, so I'm not completely sure = where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust anyone! I do think = that the aliens will have to come to a decision within themselves, = especially Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max = trusts Liz implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria = too(he said it in tonights episode but I think he really believes it = too). Michael and Isabel still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality = and that has to change if they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff = tonight though. Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect = and no one's intentions seem obvious anymore. Can't wait to see this pan = out. Two interesting quotes: A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is definetly = an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and one that = will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great that = these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever be six? = Will they ever be able to find this true common ground? I love Max and = Liz so much and I want to see them happy, but their differences become = more of an obstacle every time they're together. Yes they love each = other, yes they feel complete when they're together, but as you can see = from the previews to next week's show, these things can be fleeting. = It's all a lot to process. What do you guys think? B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another interesting = line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria and Liz are. = This line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria doesn't (or = won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the situation. = Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop being a = human. "This" will never be over.=20 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not saying = this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her introduction = into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so = guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than Michael's = and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but it still = seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet = at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really = cute though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come = in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to = stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you = have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as the = person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. = I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to at = least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty = superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to find = their way back to each other. Any thoughts?=20 5) The transition to science fiction: What I loved about this episode = was how well balanced it truly was. Not since the pilot, have I felt = this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the story. Usually I am = more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual Healing" between Max = and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and Michael in "Independence Day" = but tonight I was really into the entire episode. This show continues to = amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors and how smoothly they = make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and fear, all in = one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am confident that = they will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism up. = American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the background. A = thinly veiled plea to write more letters and send more sauce. I will = stop now) :) 6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone looked amazing tonight. I have never = seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel looked beautiful as well. = Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is just always adorable. = Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I will say that = I think he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved the = Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the = Chinese restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to = fly out of it!=20 Again, an incredible episode and definetly worth the wait! If this show = does not get renewed, then I know that there is no longer room on = television for quality writing, quality acting and quality = entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn =20 "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA340.EC6771E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It seems the = buildup=20 to this episode was greater than any before. I have to admit that I was = one of=20 the people who was very concerned with the new "direction" the = show=20 was going to take. While I enjoy the science fiction aspect of the show, = it’s the little relationship moments that have really touched me = beyond=20 belief. However, the writers proved how capable and in tune with the = characters=20 they really are with tonight’s episode. After seeing this, I can = see the=20 initial vision of the show a little clearer. Tonight was the first time = that I=20 honestly felt it was "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I = for one=20 am loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and=20 observations:

1) I really liked the "Previously seen on = Roswell"=20 clips that started the show. It was a great set of clips and a good = "cliff=20 notes" version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't = get=20 people in, nothing will.

2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is = it? The=20 three main couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how = they're=20 handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation.

A) Liz and Max: Ahhh, = the=20 quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight and very=20 "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity between = "Sexual=20 Healing" and "Crazy" which is something that the writers = have=20 been a little laxed about. It was also interesting to see Max and Liz = disagree=20 about the Topolsky/trust issue and it was even better to see neither one = back=20 down. I was afraid that Liz would cower a little but she stood her = ground. It's=20 obvious their love runs deep and that Liz is really scared for Max and = what=20 could potentially always be a threat to his life...his very existence. = It's so=20 obvious how deep their connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was = so nice=20 to see, even if for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz = to be a=20 normal couple.

B) Maria and=20 Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to Max = and Liz.=20 Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor students, both are = pretty=20 "play by the rules" kind of people, both are incredibly = rational. Then=20 there's Michael and Maria who at times have this great symbiotic = relationship=20 and then the next instance are like oil and water. Watching them is like = watching a roller coaster ride with its ups and downs constantly = changing the=20 equilibrium of things. This works for them in a big way. Majandra and = Brendan=20 were incredible tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max = and Liz=20 have, the desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the=20 bickering, the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods = where=20 Maria WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. Great = scene,=20 very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. = Awesome=20 acting!

C) Alex and=20 Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both really=20 fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. One = thing is=20 for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, for someone to = love her,=20 for someone to understand her, but most importantly, lonely for someone = to want=20 to know her back. I imagine she's used to people wanting to know her = because=20 she's pretty and popular(though we've never seen her with = "friends"=20 other than in the Toy House, her popularity is alluded to many times = throughout=20 the series) no one really has ever wanted to know the real her. That's = sort of=20 why the Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a completely = different=20 clique of students yet has the same isolation issues that Isabel has. = Not many=20 people want to get to know Alex either. He's not overly popular or = smart, he's=20 just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can persevere.

3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien=20 hunters": Just had to say that Julie Benz was awesome = tonight. Her=20 trepidation and fear were palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, = so I'm=20 not completely sure where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust = anyone!=20 I do think that the aliens will have to come to a decision within = themselves,=20 especially Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max = trusts=20 Liz implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria too(he = said it=20 in tonights episode but I think he really believes it too). Michael and = Isabel=20 still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality and that has to = change if=20 they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff tonight though. Topolsky, = Valenti,=20 Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no one's intentions seem = obvious=20 anymore. Can't wait to see this pan out.

Two interesting quotes:

A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This = is=20 definetly an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and = one=20 that will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great = that=20 these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever be six? = Will they=20 ever be able to find this true common ground? I love Max and Liz so much = and I=20 want to see them happy, but their differences become more of an obstacle = every=20 time they're together. Yes they love each other, yes they feel complete = when=20 they're together, but as you can see from the previews to next week's = show,=20 these things can be fleeting. It's all a lot to process. What do you = guys=20 think?

B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. = Another=20 interesting line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria = and Liz=20 are. This line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria = doesn't=20 (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the = situation.=20 Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop being a = human.=20 "This" will never be over.

4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. = To be=20 honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I = really didn't=20 like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to = me.=20 Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher = than=20 Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but = it still=20 seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet = at all,=20 I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really cute = though but=20 not the type of character I would have liked to see come in between Max = and Liz.=20 My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a = couple(which is=20 what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a character as=20 interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based = on=20 tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes = by but=20 I want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, = it's=20 all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz = to find=20 their way back to each other. Any thoughts?

5) The transition to science fiction: = What I=20 loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly was. Not since = the=20 pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the = story.=20 Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual=20 Healing" between Max and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and = Michael in=20 "Independence Day" but tonight I was really into the entire = episode.=20 This show continues to amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors = and how=20 smoothly they make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and = fear,=20 all in one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am = confident that=20 they will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism up. = American flag=20 waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the background. A thinly = veiled=20 plea to write more letters and send more sauce. I will stop now) = :)

6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone = looked amazing=20 tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel looked = beautiful=20 as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is just always = adorable.=20 Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I will say that = I think=20 he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved the Cameron = Diaz in=20 "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the Chinese=20 restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to fly out = of it!=20

Again, an incredible episode and = definetly worth=20 the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know that there is = no longer=20 room on television for quality writing, quality acting and quality=20 entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina = :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. = Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
and naked. Felt = no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil = Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA340.EC6771E0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RMHaWonder1@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 10 Apr 2000 23:24:13 EDT I totally agree... bith times she came on the scene (at the restaurent and school) she just seemed like she was barging in so much. At the restaurant it seemed like Isabel didn't even WANT her there. And, they way she talks seems so.. forced? Like she has an accent she wants to hide. --Rachel In a message dated 4/10/00 9:16:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, kaycomp@worldnet.att.net writes: << 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really cute though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. Any thoughts? >> Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 11 Apr 2000 00:06:15 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFA349.C10B5A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much today b/c I am falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, I loved the scenes with M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria was crying really got to me as well. Maria really cares for him and Majandra did a beautiful job of portraying a very emotionally distraught Maria DeLuca. Maria seemed rather distant the entire episode as opposed to her usual perky, forth-right self. I Loved that. I also cared for the desert scenes a great deal because it was the first time all six of them were there together. Very moving moments there. I hope Isabel and Alex take things slow and eventually form a tight bond, whether it be as friends, or something more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was awesome...Julie's talent is truly shining through, she is going places for sure! I am glad the sheriff is on their side. He has really ben doing his job ever since The Convention (protecting them). Well, Thats al I got for now, but I am going to watch it again and again and again. I could go on and on..... Thanks for listening! Mel My Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after hanks): http://members.xoom.com/colinhanks2/bloodbrother.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:03 PM To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Hey Guys, Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It seems the buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to admit that I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new "direction" the show was going to take. While I enjoy the science fiction aspect of the show, it’s the little relationship moments that have really touched me beyond belief. However, the writers proved how capable and in tune with the characters they really are with tonight’s episode. After seeing this, I can see the initial vision of the show a little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I honestly felt it was "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I for one am loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) I really liked the "Previously seen on Roswell" clips that started the show. It was a great set of clips and a good "cliff notes" version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't get people in, nothing will. 2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is it? The three main couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how they're handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation. A) Liz and Max: Ahhh, the quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight and very "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity between "Sexual Healing" and "Crazy" which is something that the writers have been a little laxed about. It was also interesting to see Max and Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue and it was even better to see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz would cower a little but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs deep and that Liz is really scared for Max and what could potentially always be a threat to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how deep their connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, even if for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a normal couple. B) Maria and Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to Max and Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor students, both are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both are incredibly rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times have this great symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are like oil and water. Watching them is like watching a roller coaster ride with its ups and downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. This works for them in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were incredible tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max and Liz have, the desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the bickering, the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods where Maria WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. Great scene, very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. Awesome acting! C) Alex and Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both really fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. One thing is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, for someone to love her, for someone to understand her, but most importantly, lonely for someone to want to know her back. I imagine she's used to people wanting to know her because she's pretty and popular(though we've never seen her with "friends" other than in the Toy House, her popularity is alluded to many times throughout the series) no one really has ever wanted to know the real her. That's sort of why the Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a completely different clique of students yet has the same isolation issues that Isabel has. Not many people want to get to know Alex either. He's not overly popular or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can persevere. 3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien hunters": Just had to say that Julie Benz was awesome tonight. Her trepidation and fear were palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, so I'm not completely sure where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust anyone! I do think that the aliens will have to come to a decision within themselves, especially Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max trusts Liz implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria too(he said it in tonights episode but I think he really believes it too). Michael and Isabel still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality and that has to change if they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff tonight though. Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no one's intentions seem obvious anymore. Can't wait to see this pan out. Two interesting quotes: A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is definetly an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and one that will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great that these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever be six? Will they ever be able to find this true common ground? I love Max and Liz so much and I want to see them happy, but their differences become more of an obstacle every time they're together. Yes they love each other, yes they feel complete when they're together, but as you can see from the previews to next week's show, these things can be fleeting. It's all a lot to process. What do you guys think? B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another interesting line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria and Liz are. This line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria doesn't (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the situation. Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop being a human. "This" will never be over. 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really cute though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. Any thoughts? 5) The transition to science fiction: What I loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly was. Not since the pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the story. Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual Healing" between Max and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and Michael in "Independence Day" but tonight I was really into the entire episode. This show continues to amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors and how smoothly they make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and fear, all in one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am confident that they will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism up. American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the background. A thinly veiled plea to write more letters and send more sauce. I will stop now) :) 6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone looked amazing tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel looked beautiful as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is just always adorable. Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I will say that I think he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved the Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the Chinese restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to fly out of it! Again, an incredible episode and definetly worth the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know that there is no longer room on television for quality writing, quality acting and quality entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFA349.C10B5A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As=20 always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much today = b/c I am=20 falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, I loved the = scenes with=20 M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria was crying = really got to=20 me as well. Maria really cares for him and Majandra did a beautiful job = of=20 portraying a very emotionally distraught Maria DeLuca. Maria seemed = rather=20 distant the entire episode as opposed to her usual perky, forth-right = self. I=20 Loved that. I also cared for the desert scenes a great deal because it = was the=20 first time all six of them were there together. Very moving moments = there. I=20 hope Isabel and Alex take things slow and eventually form a tight bond, = whether=20 it be as friends, or something more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was=20 awesome...Julie's talent is truly shining through, she is going places = for sure!=20 I am glad the sheriff is on their side. He has really ben doing his job = ever=20 since The Convention (protecting them). Well, Thats al I got for now, = but I am=20 going to watch it again and again and again. I could go on and=20 on.....

Thanks=20 for listening!

Mel

My=20 Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after = hanks):

http://memb= ers.xoom.com/colinhanks2/bloodbrother.htm

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Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:03 = PM
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Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts = and=20 observations about "Crazy"

Hey Guys,

Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It seems = the=20 buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to admit = that I=20 was one of the people who was very concerned with the new "direction" = the show=20 was going to take. While I enjoy the science fiction aspect of the = show, it’s=20 the little relationship moments that have really touched me beyond = belief.=20 However, the writers proved how capable and in tune with the = characters they=20 really are with tonight’s episode. After seeing this, I can see = the initial=20 vision of the show a little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I = honestly felt it was "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I for one = am=20 loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and=20 observations:

1) I really liked the "Previously seen on Roswell" = clips=20 that started the show. It was a great set of clips and a good "cliff = notes"=20 version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't get people = in,=20 nothing will.

2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is = it? The=20 three main couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how = they're=20 handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation.

      A) Liz and Max: = Ahhh, the=20 quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight and very = "couple-y"=20 It was good to see some continuity between "Sexual Healing" and = "Crazy" which=20 is something that the writers have been a little laxed about. It was = also=20 interesting to see Max and Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue = and it=20 was even better to see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz = would=20 cower a little but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs = deep and=20 that Liz is really scared for Max and what could potentially always be = a=20 threat to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how deep = their=20 connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, even = if for=20 one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a normal = couple.

       B) Maria and=20 Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to Max = and=20 Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor students, = both are=20 pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both are incredibly = rational. Then=20 there's Michael and Maria who at times have this great symbiotic = relationship=20 and then the next instance are like oil and water. Watching them is = like=20 watching a roller coaster ride with its ups and downs constantly = changing the=20 equilibrium of things. This works for them in a big way. Majandra and = Brendan=20 were incredible tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max = and Liz=20 have, the desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the = bickering, the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods = where=20 Maria WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. = Great scene,=20 very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. = Awesome=20 acting!

        C) Alex and=20 Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both = really=20 fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. One = thing is=20 for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, for someone to = love her,=20 for someone to understand her, but most importantly, lonely for = someone to=20 want to know her back. I imagine she's used to people wanting to know = her=20 because she's pretty and popular(though we've never seen her with = "friends"=20 other than in the Toy House, her popularity is alluded to many times=20 throughout the series) no one really has ever wanted to know the real = her.=20 That's sort of why the Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in = a=20 completely different clique of students yet has the same isolation = issues that=20 Isabel has. Not many people want to get to know Alex either. He's not = overly=20 popular or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can = persevere.

3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien = hunters":=20 Just had to say that Julie Benz was awesome tonight. Her trepidation = and fear=20 were palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, so I'm not = completely sure=20 where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust anyone! I do think = that=20 the aliens will have to come to a decision within themselves, = especially=20 Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max trusts = Liz=20 implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria too(he = said it=20 in tonights episode but I think he really believes it too). Michael = and Isabel=20 still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality and that has to change if = they=20 all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff tonight though. Topolsky, = Valenti,=20 Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no one's intentions seem = obvious=20 anymore. Can't wait to see this pan out.

Two interesting quotes:

A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is = definetly an=20 interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and one that = will=20 prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great that = these three=20 aliens love these three humans but will they ever be six? Will they = ever be=20 able to find this true common ground? I love Max and Liz so much and I = want to=20 see them happy, but their differences become more of an obstacle every = time=20 they're together. Yes they love each other, yes they feel complete = when=20 they're together, but as you can see from the previews to next week's = show,=20 these things can be fleeting. It's all a lot to process. What do you = guys=20 think?

B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another = interesting=20 line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria and Liz are. = This=20 line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria doesn't = (or=20 won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the situation. = Michael=20 will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop being a human. = "This"=20 will never be over.

4) Tess: Ah, the Tess = person. To be=20 honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I = really=20 didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly = forced to=20 me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not = higher than=20 Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely = but it=20 still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find = her sweet=20 at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really = cute=20 though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come in = between=20 Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot = of a=20 couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least = have a=20 character as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to = replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will = change=20 as time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate for = Max's=20 heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all = about=20 waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. Any = thoughts?=20

5) The transition to science = fiction: What I=20 loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly was. Not since = the=20 pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the = story.=20 Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual = Healing"=20 between Max and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and Michael in=20 "Independence Day" but tonight I was really into the entire episode. = This show=20 continues to amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors and how = smoothly=20 they make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and fear, = all in=20 one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am confident = that they=20 will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism up. American = flag=20 waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the background. A thinly = veiled plea=20 to write more letters and send more sauce. I will stop now) = :)

6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone = looked=20 amazing tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel = looked=20 beautiful as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is = just always=20 adorable. Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I = will say=20 that I think he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved = the=20 Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the = Chinese=20 restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to fly = out of it!=20

Again, an incredible episode and = definetly worth=20 the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know that there is = no=20 longer room on television for quality writing, quality acting and = quality=20 entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina=20 :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFA349.C10B5A30-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 11 Apr 2000 00:07:31 -0400 She is from Australia so she is hiding an accent..I did find her annoying but I think thats what they want. She actually reminded me of someone I know...Grrrr Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of RMHaWonder1@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:24 PM I totally agree... bith times she came on the scene (at the restaurent and school) she just seemed like she was barging in so much. At the restaurant it seemed like Isabel didn't even WANT her there. And, they way she talks seems so.. forced? Like she has an accent she wants to hide. --Rachel In a message dated 4/10/00 9:16:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, kaycomp@worldnet.att.net writes: << 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really cute though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. Any thoughts? >> Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoXyGirLy63@aol.com Subject: [roswell] *cRaZy* Date: 11 Apr 2000 03:43:15 EDT In a message dated 4/10/00 5:09:06 PM, mikestone65@home.com writes: << Looks like the "Sexual Healing" episode spilled over just a bit into this episode with all the face 'suckage,' but what happened with the conclusion? I was expecting a parent-child lecture of some sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting for them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. >> I know...i seriously thought that max and liz were gonna get a lecture! oh wells, i enjoyed all the max/liz parts! yeay....i was so so so worried that the stupid tess (sorry, i dont like her.....) would cause HAVOC b/w max and liz and am so relieved she diddn;t. so i hvae a question.....IS tess actuallly gonna cause all that very bad stuff to happen> she is still right? welll, i wont like her now...besides she is irritating! and i think that in the future eppys concerning max and liz....Isabel is gonna take tess because she wants that whole "girl best friend thing." i hope not tho.... anyways, i thought the whole maria wanting a relationship like liz and max's was cute...but a little too much of it. no offense to m/m shippers! i like them together too. it just seems that maria always is complaining about micheal and i get a lil tired of it. *ducking all the things being thrown at me* Well, i am also glad that Valenti is finallly on max's side! it was nice to see that they weren't really alone.....so the guy? the docterguy...is that nasedo? pierce? i am confused since he shape-shifted at the end.... I am reallly wondering what is gonna happen next eppy.....will the sheriff start investigating the communication rock thingie? Are the FBI gonna go after max thems...well probably something along those lines! k, i really liked this episode! it had me in suspense a lot...plus all the max and liz cute lil romantic things were a BIG BONUS! i mean i liked sexual healing better but that is just because the ENTIRE focus of the episode was all MAX AND LIZ! =) k, addios! ~Leanne (MAX and LIZ forever! no TESS.....BAD BAD BAD!) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Daily Variety Ad? Date: 11 Apr 2000 06:41:23 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03EB_01BFA380.F3F00CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, How are you? I was wondering if any of you on the west coast were able = to secure extra copies of the Daily Variety for us East coasters? I = searched all over New York City but couldn't find a west coast edition. = If there's anyone out in the west coast that can help me out, I would = totally appreciate it. Since I contributed, I would love to be able to = see the ad in its final edit. I would pay for everything including = labor. Thanks so much! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_03EB_01BFA380.F3F00CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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How are you? I was wondering if any of you on the = west coast=20 were able to secure extra copies of the Daily Variety for us East = coasters? I=20 searched all over New York City but couldn't find a west coast edition. = If=20 there's anyone out in the west coast that can help me out, I would = totally=20 appreciate it. Since I contributed, I would love to be able to see the = ad in its=20 final edit. I would pay for everything including labor. Thanks so much! = Gina=20 :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_03EB_01BFA380.F3F00CC0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martha Jackson Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 11 Apr 2000 08:52:37 -0700 >I was expecting a parent-child lecture of some >sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting for >them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. I was really disappointed in this omission also. At the very least, there should have been a throwaway line or 2 about their parents and whether they have curfews to meet now, can't stay out so late (like all night!) or something! There has been this continuity problem between episodes before, where something big happens and there's no discussion of it afterwards, and no repercussions. As you know, I felt it strongly after Blind Date!! Too bad the script writers can't refer back to each other's work a little bit, and think to themselves, "Oh, I guess I should mention that huge thing that happened last week in this week's episode!" Otherwise, I thought last night was outstanding! I think I'll have to watch it again to compose coherent thoughts about it. But here are a few incoherent ones! I loved the new interaction between Michael & Maria!! They were fabulous in every single scene together. Their relationship seems such a big step forward for Michael and lots of potential for growth there. I like Michael working at the Crashdown! Very cute. I liked that Liz & Max finally get to be happy together for a while, but, and I never thought I could think this, didn't Max seem a little too perfect of a boyfriend? Gifts, flowers, always knowing when to reach out with a little touch, yikes! What human boy could live up to his example?? I also don't think Liz was being a very good friend to Maria, doing all that cooing and smooching right in front of her when she knows that Maria is not getting the same. Loved the scene between Michael and Max, where Max is trying to teach Michael how to be a nicer boyfriend. Max hitting Michael was really disturbing. Wow. What repercussions will there be from that?? I am very intrigued by the doctor/ Nasedo thing. What are his motives? Who's side is he on?? I'm glad that Valenti seems to be becoming a good guy, and yes, what's he going to do with the orb??? Poor old Topolsky, looks like she's been tortured. I trusted her this time and am scared about what's going to happen to her next. I hated Tess, especially in the scene where she interrupts Alex & Isabel for the second time. Her first scene with them she just seemed friendly and eager. But in the second one didn't she seem so calculating and like she was totally dismissing Alex. Which maybe she is for her own ulterior motives. Moving in on Isabel and pushing aside the unimportant people in her way. Very interesting new story directions. Can't wait to see what happens next! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klm1107@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 11 Apr 2000 13:00:12 EDT Hi, << I was expecting a parent-child lecture of some >sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting for >them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. >> I have to say that this didn't bother me but it's probably because they do it in the X Files all the time. Mulder is at death's door and then he's back in his apartment in the next episode. Anyway, I loved the show last night. The chemistry between all the actors was great and the "we're closing early" line (sorry I shouldn't put it in quotes because I'm not sure I got it exactly right) was hilarious. Can't wait until next Monday Take care everyone Lori Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: [roswell] Need help with something... Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:38:36 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DC.C3BAE000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone.. My name is Casandra. I am in search of some Roswell = Wallpaper.. I would like the wallpaper of "Jason Behr" It has a white = background with a transparent picture of Jason to the left side and it = has him sitting on a seat of some kind in person... Can anyone help me = find this.. it was on a really cool website but I have lost the = address.. Please if you know where I might find this please let me = know... Casandra ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DC.C3BAE000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone..=20 My name is Casandra. I am in search of some Roswell = Wallpaper.. I=20 would like the wallpaper of "Jason Behr" It has a white background = with a=20 transparent picture of Jason to the left side and it has him sitting on = a seat=20 of some kind in person... Can anyone help me find this.. it was on a = really cool=20 website but I have lost the address.. Please if you know where I might = find this=20 please let me know...

Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DC.C3BAE000-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: [roswell] Wallpaper.. Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:42:29 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DD.4EF76800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hate to bother you guys again.. But if you know of any sites that = offer Roswell wallpaper for you computer.. please send the links... thanks.... Casandra ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DD.4EF76800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I = hate to bother=20 you guys again.. But if you know of any sites that offer Roswell = wallpaper for=20 you computer.. please send the links...

thanks.... = Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA3DD.4EF76800-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Wallpaper.. Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:30:37 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFA3E4.0877C080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi..I have some wallpaper on my site, but I am not sure what site that Jason one is on. I know which one u are referring to though. I looked at what I have in m computer and I do not have it so I canot send it to you. Good Luck to you though. Mel wallpaper here: http://members.xoom.com/RoswellMel/wallpaper.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Casandra Richardson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 5:42 PM To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Subject: [roswell] Wallpaper.. I hate to bother you guys again.. But if you know of any sites that offer Roswell wallpaper for you computer.. please send the links... thanks.... Casandra ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFA3E4.0877C080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi..I=20 have some wallpaper on my site, but I am not sure what site that Jason = one is=20 on. I know which one u are referring to though. I looked at what I have = in m=20 computer and I do not have it so I canot send it to you. Good Luck to = you=20 though.

Mel

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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 5:42 = PM
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Subject: [roswell]=20 Wallpaper..

I = hate to=20 bother you guys again.. But if you know of any sites that offer = Roswell=20 wallpaper for you computer.. please send the = links...

thanks.... =20 Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFA3E4.0877C080-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] brief Shiri sighting on CNN Showbiz Today Date: 11 Apr 2000 19:15:42 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BFA3EA.54CA92E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, Jon Bon Jovi was interviewed on CNN Showbiz Today and he showed a clip = from his new video. There's a very brief shot of Shiri and she looks = great! It looks like she's on the dance floor looking around and = waiting for somebody. Have any of you seen the video on VH1 or MTV? = Just thought I'd let you guys know. Have a good night! Gina:-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BFA3EA.54CA92E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey guys,

Jon Bon Jovi was interviewed on CNN Showbiz Today = and he=20 showed a clip from his new video. There's a very brief shot of = Shiri and=20 she looks great! It looks like she's on the dance floor looking = around and=20 waiting for somebody. Have any of you seen the video on VH1 or = MTV? =20 Just thought I'd let you guys know. Have a good night! =20 Gina:-)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BFA3EA.54CA92E0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:41:09 -0400 Mike wrote: >Thoroughly enjoyable episode -- probably even more fast paced than the pilot >episode, "Roswell High." Looks like the "Sexual Healing" episode spilled >over just a bit into this episode with all the face 'suckage,' but what >happened with the conclusion? I was expecting a parent-child lecture of some >sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting for >them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. Gina: Yeah, I was wondering about that too Mike but I was just happy that Liz and Max were still an acknowledged couple. I was afraid that the writers would give us this new bond during "Sexual Healing" and then fizzle the couplehood out to gear towards sci-fi. The writers haven't been very good about writing for the parents thus far but I'm willing to overlook that for now. Mike Wrote: >I was glad to see that the Sheriff is proving to be a true ally of the gang, >but I feel he too was duped at the end by Nacedo-Doctor. The only problem >with that, is how was it possible that the Sheriff was fed so much bogus >information, and believed it all? How could Nacedo pull all that off? Does >he too manage to work under cover, and the FBI doesn't even know his true >identity? And what's going to happen to Valenti now that he has the >orb-communication-thingy-majig? Gina: I'm liking the sheriff being an ally too but if I were the aliens, I would be just as wary of the sheriff as I was with Topolsky. I was weirded out by the conversation between the sheriff and Max at the UFO Center simply because it was so out of the blue. For so long we (the aliens and the audience) have grown accustomed to fearing the sheriff and now we're supposed to trust him? It's all still a little weird. > Mike wrote: II'm also curious if anyone knows what the ratings were for the show tonight? Gina: I'm sure you know by now but the ratings were pretty good. I believe they were a 4.0 share and we were able to sustain 69% of 7th Heaven's audience. T hat's not a bad start. > >I'd definitely give this episode a 9.0 out of 10, and not getting the full >10 because of the lack of closure from the previous episode, and for making >us think it was Tess that was causing all this commotion. *Never* trust the >promos. :) > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:57:22 -0500 > I was weirded out by the conversation between the sheriff > and Max at the UFO Center simply because it was so out of > the blue. ... I forgot to mention that earlier too. Valenti's little speech sounded too rehearsed, or something, during that weirded out conversation. Also, were we given just a little bit too much in this episode, i.e., too much kissage, too much information, too much too quickly? Anyway, we're definitely making some progress with those Tabasco sauce mailings. Even after last night's episode, the local news reported on it. Even the newscaster stated she hoped the show was picked up... Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoswllSpaceAlien@cs.com Subject: [roswell] ot: MARIA HAIR HElP Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:49:54 EDT Help! I've tried 7 times to get my hair like MArias but I can't figure out how she has her hair cut! SOMEONE e-mail me off the line and tell me! THANX! MAndy Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] ot: MARIA HAIR HElP Date: 11 Apr 2000 23:01:17 -0400 LOL..Mandy..it depends on your hair now...I can't really help b/c I have more LIz-like hair..but Good LUck to ya! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of RoswllSpaceAlien@cs.com Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:50 PM Fehr-Delfino@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; roswellnet@onelist.com; SecretSocietyOfRoswell@onelist.com; TheAAA@onelist.com; TheBestShowsoftheWB@onelist.com; YoungRoswellians@onelist.com Help! I've tried 7 times to get my hair like MArias but I can't figure out how she has her hair cut! SOMEONE e-mail me off the line and tell me! THANX! MAndy Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 11 Apr 2000 23:24:29 -0700 "kaycomp" wrote: > >happened with the conclusion? I was expecting a parent-child lecture of > >some sort after Liz and Max walked in the Cafe to see their parents waiting > >for them. There wasn't even a mention of any repercussions because of it. Maybe there weren't any. Maybe they faced down their parents, and their unconstrained smooching and dating is meant to be the obvious sign that they won. Keep in mind, when you want to see something, that the episodes have a fixed length, and it is standard (universal?) practice to overshoot, then cut. So contemplate which part of the episode you'd rather have gone without. ("Less kissing", someone will probably say.) > would give us this new bond during "Sexual Healing" and then fizzle the > couplehood out to gear towards sci-fi. The writers haven't been very good But if they'd cut kissing for a mention of the showdown, someone might be complaining that the couplehood was fizzling... > >with that, is how was it possible that the Sheriff was fed so much bogus > >information, and believed it all? How could Nacedo pull all that off? Does And the Sheriff knows Stevens is dead. > >he too manage to work under cover, and the FBI doesn't even know his true > >identity? And what's going to happen to Valenti now that he has the Nacedo _is_ Pierce! Bwa-ha-ha! (I made that up.) > I'm liking the sheriff being an ally too but if I were the aliens, I would > be just as wary of the sheriff as I was with Topolsky. I was weirded out by > the conversation between the sheriff and Max at the UFO Center simply > because it was so out of the blue. For so long we (the aliens and the Well, the Sheriff did shoot a person who'd been going to shoot Max, and who had _openly_ accused Max of being an alien (never happened before), and been someone Valenti might have trusted. And didn't press the issue. That earns him some points. And it was mostly a one-way conversation this episode, even so. Max didn't give anything away. -xx- Damien X-) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: haas.68@osu.edu Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:56:25 -0400 >Nacedo _is_ Pierce! Bwa-ha-ha! Why couldn't this be true? The alien we've seen that killed Hank is not necessarily Nasedo. Everyone just assumes that he is. But why can't there be multiple aliens that have been to the Earth and/or are still here? This would mean that any character could be an alien, and any alien we see might or might not be nasedo. Personally, my theory is that nasedo brought Max, Michael and Isabel to the Earth to hide them for some reason and some other aliens have been trying to hunt all of them down. If this is true (which it very well might not be) Pierce probably is an alien! This is one of the things I love about this show--there are endless possibilities about what is going on! Erin Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: [roswell] Promo Observations Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:13:01 -0500 Okay, I have to make a couple of comments about the promo from Monday's episode, so I'll spoiler space my speculations, just in case: S P O I L E R | S P A C E I'm sure someone else on some other list has done this too, so we'll swap notes: 1) Yes, that's Max and Tess kissing in not one, but two shots; I suspect that at least one of the shots is from a dream sequence, since obviously they're in class. However -- Liz is shown looking like she is disgusted by something, also in a classroom environment, so there could in fact be this 'force' that is drawing Max to Tess making him do things not of his own will. 2) Michael telling Max that he "doesn't know who [he] is anymore." I think we're meant to believe that this is because of Max's apparent infidelity to Liz, but I think it's actually because Max struck Michael in Crazy. I will have more to say on this topic later, since I found this rather disturbing. 3) Next, we have Liz coming to visit Tess at, apparently, her own fancy home. 4) Everyone except Max is eavesdropping this visit by some kind of remote camera, apparently hidden in a statue (or something other fixed object) Liz drops when she is caught by -- apparently -- Tess' father (although he does look like one of those FBI suits from earlier). 5) Max looks like he too discovers something that disturbs him, so perhaps he learns quickly that Tess is not who exactly she says she is (guessing, of course, that she isn't just another kid at school). Note, I make these speculations without any prior knowledge of outside spoilers. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] PLEASE vote for Roswell Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:53:10 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFA486.704F95A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, My friend Kim alerted me to a poll that USA Today is having about which = shows from the different networks should be saved and which shouldn't. I = think it would be great if we all voted and in the "comments" box on the = bottom, mention how much we love the show and the campaign. Here's the = link: http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/keeperssurv.htm Thanks and please vote! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFA486.704F95A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

My friend Kim alerted me to a poll that USA Today is = having=20 about which shows from the different networks should be saved and which=20 shouldn't. I think it would be great if we all voted and in the=20 "comments" box on the bottom, mention how much we love the = show and=20 the campaign. Here's the link:

http://www= .usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/keeperssurv.htm

Thanks and please vote! Gina :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BFA486.704F95A0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 13 Apr 2000 05:38:55 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BFA50A.8ECFC3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much Mel-you're so sweet. I thought that Maria and Michael = scene was incredible too. I noticed that Maria was less perky in this = episode too and I wonder if this will be the norm from now on. Perhaps = with the main shift of the show leaning towards science fiction, they = want to curb her characters penchant for oils and babbling. Gina :) -----Original Message----- =20 =20 As always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much = today b/c I am falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, = I loved the scenes with M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria = was crying really got to me as well. Maria really cares for him and = Majandra did a beautiful job of portraying a very emotionally distraught = Maria DeLuca. Maria seemed rather distant the entire episode as opposed = to her usual perky, forth-right self. I Loved that. I also cared for the = desert scenes a great deal because it was the first time all six of them = were there together. Very moving moments there. I hope Isabel and Alex = take things slow and eventually form a tight bond, whether it be as = friends, or something more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was = awesome...Julie's talent is truly shining through, she is going places = for sure! I am glad the sheriff is on their side. He has really ben = doing his job ever since The Convention (protecting them). Well, Thats = al I got for now, but I am going to watch it again and again and again. = I could go on and on..... =20 =20 Thanks for listening! Mel =20 My Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after hanks): http://members.xoom.com/colinhanks2/bloodbrother.htm =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:03 PM To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; = 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; = jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; = max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; = RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; = roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; = RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; = Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; = WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about = "Crazy" =20 =20 =20 Hey Guys, Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It = seems the buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to = admit that I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new = "direction" the show was going to take. While I enjoy the science = fiction aspect of the show, it=92s the little relationship moments that = have really touched me beyond belief. However, the writers proved how = capable and in tune with the characters they really are with tonight=92s = episode. After seeing this, I can see the initial vision of the show a = little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I honestly felt it was = "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I for one am loving it.The = episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) I really liked the "Previously seen on Roswell" clips that = started the show. It was a great set of clips and a good "cliff notes" = version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't get people = in, nothing will.=20 2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is it? The three = main couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how they're = handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation. A) Liz and Max: Ahhh, the quiet before the storm. Max and = Liz were so sweet tonight and very "couple-y" It was good to see some = continuity between "Sexual Healing" and "Crazy" which is something that = the writers have been a little laxed about. It was also interesting to = see Max and Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue and it was even = better to see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz would cower a = little but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs deep and = that Liz is really scared for Max and what could potentially always be a = threat to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how deep their = connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, even if = for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a normal = couple. B) Maria and Michael: It was good to see them in the = contrast to Max and Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are = honor students, both are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both = are incredibly rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times = have this great symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are = like oil and water. Watching them is like watching a roller coaster ride = with its ups and downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. = This works for them in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were incredible = tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max and Liz have, the = desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the bickering, = the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods where Maria = WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. Great scene, = very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. = Awesome acting! C) Alex and Isabel. There is so much potential there. = They are both really fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one = to figure out. One thing is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for = friendship, for someone to love her, for someone to understand her, but = most importantly, lonely for someone to want to know her back. I imagine = she's used to people wanting to know her because she's pretty and = popular(though we've never seen her with "friends" other than in the Toy = House, her popularity is alluded to many times throughout the series) no = one really has ever wanted to know the real her. That's sort of why the = Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a completely different = clique of students yet has the same isolation issues that Isabel has. = Not many people want to get to know Alex either. He's not overly popular = or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can persevere. 3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien hunters": Just = had to say that Julie Benz was awesome tonight. Her trepidation and fear = were palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, so I'm not completely = sure where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust anyone! I do = think that the aliens will have to come to a decision within themselves, = especially Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max = trusts Liz implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria = too(he said it in tonights episode but I think he really believes it = too). Michael and Isabel still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality = and that has to change if they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff = tonight though. Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect = and no one's intentions seem obvious anymore. Can't wait to see this pan = out. Two interesting quotes: A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is = definetly an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and = one that will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's = great that these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever = be six? Will they ever be able to find this true common ground? I love = Max and Liz so much and I want to see them happy, but their differences = become more of an obstacle every time they're together. Yes they love = each other, yes they feel complete when they're together, but as you can = see from the previews to next week's show, these things can be fleeting. = It's all a lot to process. What do you guys think? B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another = interesting line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria = and Liz are. This line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria = doesn't (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the = situation. Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop = being a human. "This" will never be over.=20 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not = saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her = introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel = is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than = Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but = it still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find = her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her = is really cute though but not the type of character I would have liked = to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to = attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) = then you have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as = the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel = it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to = at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all = pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to = find their way back to each other. Any thoughts?=20 5) The transition to science fiction: What I loved about this = episode was how well balanced it truly was. Not since the pilot, have I = felt this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the story. Usually I = am more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual Healing" between = Max and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and Michael in "Independence = Day" but tonight I was really into the entire episode. This show = continues to amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors and how = smoothly they make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and = fear, all in one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am = confident that they will be able to sustain this for years to come! = (optimism up. American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the = background. A thinly veiled plea to write more letters and send more = sauce. I will stop now) :) 6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone looked amazing tonight. I have = never seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel looked beautiful as well. = Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is just always adorable. = Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I will say that = I think he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved the = Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the = Chinese restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to = fly out of it!=20 Again, an incredible episode and definetly worth the wait! If = this show does not get renewed, then I know that there is no longer room = on television for quality writing, quality acting and quality = entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina :) = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow = strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." = Neil Finn =20 "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail = around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty = Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BFA50A.8ECFC3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks so much Mel-you're so sweet. = I thought=20 that Maria and Michael scene was incredible too. I noticed that Maria = was less=20 perky in this episode too and I wonder if this will be the norm from now = on.=20 Perhaps with the main shift of the show leaning towards science fiction, = they=20 want to curb her characters penchant for oils and babbling. Gina = :)

-----Original=20 Message-----

As=20 always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much = today b/c I=20 am falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, I loved = the=20 scenes with M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria = was=20 crying really got to me as well. Maria really cares for him and = Majandra did=20 a beautiful job of portraying a very emotionally distraught Maria = DeLuca.=20 Maria seemed rather distant the entire episode as opposed to her = usual=20 perky, forth-right self. I Loved that. I also cared for the desert = scenes a=20 great deal because it was the first time all six of them were there=20 together. Very moving moments there. I hope Isabel and Alex take = things slow=20 and eventually form a tight bond, whether it be as friends, or = something=20 more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was awesome...Julie's talent is = truly=20 shining through, she is going places for sure! I am glad the sheriff = is on=20 their side. He has really ben doing his job ever since The = Convention=20 (protecting them). Well, Thats al I got for now, but I am going to = watch it=20 again and again and again. I could go on and = on.....

Thanks for listening!

Mel

My=20 Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after=20 hanks):

http://memb= ers.xoom.com/colinhanks2/bloodbrother.htm

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From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:03=20 PM
To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; = 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com;=20 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com;=20 jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; = max-and-liz@onelist.com;=20 max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com;=20 RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com;=20 roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com;=20 RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com;=20 Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com;=20 WBsROSWELL@onelist.com
Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: = Thoughts=20 and observations about "Crazy"

Hey Guys,

Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It = seems the=20 buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to = admit=20 that I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new = "direction" the show was going to take. While I enjoy = the=20 science fiction aspect of the show, it’s the little = relationship=20 moments that have really touched me beyond belief. However, the = writers=20 proved how capable and in tune with the characters they really = are with=20 tonight’s episode. After seeing this, I can see the = initial vision=20 of the show a little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I = honestly=20 felt it was "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I = for one=20 am loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts = and=20 observations:

1) I really liked the "Previously seen on=20 Roswell" clips that started the show. It was a = great set=20 of clips and a good "cliff notes" version for new = viewers. If=20 that montage of scenes doesn't get people in, nothing will.

2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever = simple, is=20 it? The three main couples really are vastly different and it's = obvious=20 in how they're handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations=20 situation.

      A) Liz and = Max: Ahhh,=20 the quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight = and very=20 "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity between=20 "Sexual Healing" and "Crazy" which is = something that=20 the writers have been a little laxed about. It was also = interesting to=20 see Max and Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue and it = was even=20 better to see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz would = cower a=20 little but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs = deep and=20 that Liz is really scared for Max and what could potentially = always be a=20 threat to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how = deep their=20 connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, = even if=20 for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a = normal=20 couple.

       B) Maria and=20 Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast = to Max=20 and Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor = students,=20 both are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, = both are=20 incredibly rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times = have=20 this great symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are = like=20 oil and water. Watching them is like watching a roller coaster = ride with=20 its ups and downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. = This=20 works for them in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were = incredible=20 tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max and Liz = have, the=20 desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the = bickering,=20 the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods where = Maria=20 WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. = Great scene,=20 very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each = other.=20 Awesome acting!

        C) Alex = and=20 Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both = really=20 fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. = One=20 thing is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, = for=20 someone to love her, for someone to understand her, but most=20 importantly, lonely for someone to want to know her back. I = imagine=20 she's used to people wanting to know her because she's pretty = and=20 popular(though we've never seen her with "friends" = other than=20 in the Toy House, her popularity is alluded to many times = throughout the=20 series) no one really has ever wanted to know the real her. = That's sort=20 of why the Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a = completely=20 different clique of students yet has the same isolation issues = that=20 Isabel has. Not many people want to get to know Alex either. = He's not=20 overly popular or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and = Alex can=20 persevere.

3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien = hunters": Just had to say that Julie Benz was = awesome=20 tonight. Her trepidation and fear were palpable. I have read = some=20 spoilers, not all, so I'm not completely sure where this is = leading. I=20 do know that I don't trust anyone! I do think that the aliens = will have=20 to come to a decision within themselves, especially Michael and = Isabel=20 about trusting the humans completely. Max trusts Liz implicitly = and I=20 honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria too(he said it in = tonights=20 episode but I think he really believes it too). Michael and = Isabel still=20 have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality and that has to = change=20 if they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff tonight though.=20 Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no = one's=20 intentions seem obvious anymore. Can't wait to see this pan = out.

Two interesting quotes:

A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" = -Liz. This=20 is definetly an interesting line (can someone smell the = foreshadowing?)=20 and one that will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm = sure. It's=20 great that these three aliens love these three humans but will = they ever=20 be six? Will they ever be able to find this true common ground? = I love=20 Max and Liz so much and I want to see them happy, but their = differences=20 become more of an obstacle every time they're together. Yes they = love=20 each other, yes they feel complete when they're together, but as = you can=20 see from the previews to next week's show, these things can be = fleeting.=20 It's all a lot to process. What do you guys think?

B) "I just really want this to be over with" = -Maria.=20 Another interesting line and one that shows how young and = perhaps naive=20 Maria and Liz are. This line disturbed me a little because it = shows that=20 Maria doesn't (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity = and=20 severity of the situation. Michael will never stop being an = alien and=20 she'll never stop being a human. "This" will never be = over.=20

4) Tess: Ah, the Tess = person. To=20 be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz = shipper, I=20 really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt=20 incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall = up just=20 as high, if not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly = embraced=20 Tess? I know she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of = character=20 for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her = treacly. I=20 think the actress playing her is really cute though but not the = type of=20 character I would have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. = My=20 feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a = couple(which=20 is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a = character=20 as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to = replace.=20 Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will = change as=20 time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate = for Max's=20 heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's = all about=20 waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. = Any=20 thoughts?

5) The transition to science = fiction:=20 What I loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly = was. Not=20 since the pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science = fiction=20 of the story. Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding = scene in=20 "Sexual Healing" between Max and Liz or the bed scene = between=20 Maria and Michael in "Independence Day" but tonight I = was=20 really into the entire episode. This show continues to amaze me = with=20 it's writing staff and it's actors and how smoothly they make = the=20 transition between drama and comedy, bravery and fear, all in = one=20 episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am confident = that=20 they will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism = up.=20 American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the=20 background. A thinly veiled plea to write more letters and send = more=20 sauce. I will stop now) :)

6) Weekly Shallow Post: = Everyone looked=20 amazing tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and = Isabel=20 looked beautiful as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a = bandana. Alex=20 is just always adorable. Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from = gushing=20 here but I will say that I think he's the best looking man I = have ever=20 seen! I also loved the Cameron Diaz in "Being John = Malkovich"=20 wig that Topolsky wore to the Chinese restaurant. For a minute = there I=20 thought something was going to fly out of it!

Again, an incredible episode = and definetly=20 worth the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know = that=20 there is no longer room on television for quality writing, = quality=20 acting and quality entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! = Take=20 care! Gina :)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled.=20 Under moonlight I stood wild
      = and=20 naked. Felt no shame just my spirit = awakened..."   Neil=20 Finn

"...I'll fly over a = rainbow, I'll=20 be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long = letter=20 way back home
     that says all that I = know is=20 the blue sky..."    Patty = Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BFA50A.8ECFC3E0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Date: 13 Apr 2000 12:54:46 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFA547.723043D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes I agree...I still like the "new" Maria...and I Loved Crazy! Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 5:39 AM To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Thanks so much Mel-you're so sweet. I thought that Maria and Michael scene was incredible too. I noticed that Maria was less perky in this episode too and I wonder if this will be the norm from now on. Perhaps with the main shift of the show leaning towards science fiction, they want to curb her characters penchant for oils and babbling. Gina :) -----Original Message----- As always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much today b/c I am falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, I loved the scenes with M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria was crying really got to me as well. Maria really cares for him and Majandra did a beautiful job of portraying a very emotionally distraught Maria DeLuca. Maria seemed rather distant the entire episode as opposed to her usual perky, forth-right self. I Loved that. I also cared for the desert scenes a great deal because it was the first time all six of them were there together. Very moving moments there. I hope Isabel and Alex take things slow and eventually form a tight bond, whether it be as friends, or something more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was awesome...Julie's talent is truly shining through, she is going places for sure! I am glad the sheriff is on their side. He has really ben doing his job ever since The Convention (protecting them). Well, Thats al I got for now, but I am going to watch it again and again and again. I could go on and on..... Thanks for listening! Mel My Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after hanks): http://members.xoom.com/colinhanks2/bloodbrother.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:03 PM To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and observations about "Crazy" Hey Guys, Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It seems the buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to admit that I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new "direction" the show was going to take. While I enjoy the science fiction aspect of the show, it’s the little relationship moments that have really touched me beyond belief. However, the writers proved how capable and in tune with the characters they really are with tonight’s episode. After seeing this, I can see the initial vision of the show a little clearer. Tonight was the first time that I honestly felt it was "The X Files crosses Dawsons Creek" and I for one am loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) I really liked the "Previously seen on Roswell" clips that started the show. It was a great set of clips and a good "cliff notes" version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't get people in, nothing will. 2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, is it? The three main couples really are vastly different and it's obvious in how they're handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations situation. A) Liz and Max: Ahhh, the quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight and very "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity between "Sexual Healing" and "Crazy" which is something that the writers have been a little laxed about. It was also interesting to see Max and Liz disagree about the Topolsky/trust issue and it was even better to see neither one back down. I was afraid that Liz would cower a little but she stood her ground. It's obvious their love runs deep and that Liz is really scared for Max and what could potentially always be a threat to his life...his very existence. It's so obvious how deep their connection runs; it almost seems eternal. It was so nice to see, even if for one episode, what it would be like for Max and Liz to be a normal couple. B) Maria and Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to Max and Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor students, both are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both are incredibly rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times have this great symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are like oil and water. Watching them is like watching a roller coaster ride with its ups and downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. This works for them in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were incredible tonight. The wanting on Maria's part to have what Max and Liz have, the desperation on Michael's part to try and accomodate her, the bickering, the caring, and finally the culminating scene in the woods where Maria WOULD not leave Michael even if it meant she would be hurt. Great scene, very revealing in many ways of how they really feel about each other. Awesome acting! C) Alex and Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both really fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. One thing is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, for someone to love her, for someone to understand her, but most importantly, lonely for someone to want to know her back. I imagine she's used to people wanting to know her because she's pretty and popular(though we've never seen her with "friends" other than in the Toy House, her popularity is alluded to many times throughout the series) no one really has ever wanted to know the real her. That's sort of why the Alex/Isabel relationship is so ripe. Alex is in a completely different clique of students yet has the same isolation issues that Isabel has. Not many people want to get to know Alex either. He's not overly popular or smart, he's just average. I hope Isabel and Alex can persevere. 3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien hunters": Just had to say that Julie Benz was awesome tonight. Her trepidation and fear were palpable. I have read some spoilers, not all, so I'm not completely sure where this is leading. I do know that I don't trust anyone! I do think that the aliens will have to come to a decision within themselves, especially Michael and Isabel about trusting the humans completely. Max trusts Liz implicitly and I honestly feel as if he trusts Alex and Maria too(he said it in tonights episode but I think he really believes it too). Michael and Isabel still have the "aliens vs. humans" mentality and that has to change if they all want to stay safe. Very scary stuff tonight though. Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce, Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no one's intentions seem obvious anymore. Can't wait to see this pan out. Two interesting quotes: A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is definetly an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and one that will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great that these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever be six? Will they ever be able to find this true common ground? I love Max and Liz so much and I want to see them happy, but their differences become more of an obstacle every time they're together. Yes they love each other, yes they feel complete when they're together, but as you can see from the previews to next week's show, these things can be fleeting. It's all a lot to process. What do you guys think? B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another interesting line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive Maria and Liz are. This line disturbed me a little because it shows that Maria doesn't (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of the situation. Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never stop being a human. "This" will never be over. 4) Tess: Ah, the Tess person. To be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz shipper, I really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt incredibly forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as high, if not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I know she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of character for her. Also, I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the actress playing her is really cute though but not the type of character I would have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if you're going to attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is going to do) then you have to at least have a character as interesting or likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on tonight, I didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by but I want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. Otherwise, it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for Max and Liz to find their way back to each other. Any thoughts? 5) The transition to science fiction: What I loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly was. Not since the pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science fiction of the story. Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding scene in "Sexual Healing" between Max and Liz or the bed scene between Maria and Michael in "Independence Day" but tonight I was really into the entire episode. This show continues to amaze me with it's writing staff and it's actors and how smoothly they make the transition between drama and comedy, bravery and fear, all in one episode. This was an incredibly taut episode and I am confident that they will be able to sustain this for years to come! (optimism up. American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner playing in the background. A thinly veiled plea to write more letters and send more sauce. I will stop now) :) 6) Weekly Shallow Post: Everyone looked amazing tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and Isabel looked beautiful as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. Alex is just always adorable. Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from gushing here but I will say that I think he's the best looking man I have ever seen! I also loved the Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that Topolsky wore to the Chinese restaurant. For a minute there I thought something was going to fly out of it! Again, an incredible episode and definetly worth the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know that there is no longer room on television for quality writing, quality acting and quality entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFA547.723043D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes I=20 agree...I still like the "new" Maria...and I Loved = Crazy!

Mel

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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 5:39 = AM
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Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: = Thoughts=20 and observations about "Crazy"

Thanks so much Mel-you're so = sweet. I thought=20 that Maria and Michael scene was incredible too. I noticed that Maria = was less=20 perky in this episode too and I wonder if this will be the norm from = now on.=20 Perhaps with the main shift of the show leaning towards science = fiction, they=20 want to curb her characters penchant for oils and babbling. Gina=20 :)

-----Original=20 Message-----

As=20 always Gina, your comments are fantastic. I cannot post too much = today b/c I=20 am falling asleep at my desk...(long week/weekend). Anyway, I loved = the=20 scenes with M&L, but the scene with Mike & Maria when Maria = was=20 crying really got to me as well. Maria really cares for him and = Majandra did=20 a beautiful job of portraying a very emotionally distraught Maria = DeLuca.=20 Maria seemed rather distant the entire episode as opposed to her = usual=20 perky, forth-right self. I Loved that. I also cared for the desert = scenes a=20 great deal because it was the first time all six of them were there=20 together. Very moving moments there. I hope Isabel and Alex take = things slow=20 and eventually form a tight bond, whether it be as friends, or = something=20 more, I want it to happen. Topolsky was awesome...Julie's talent is = truly=20 shining through, she is going places for sure! I am glad the sheriff = is on=20 their side. He has really ben doing his job ever since The = Convention=20 (protecting them). Well, Thats al I got for now, but I am going to = watch it=20 again and again and again. I could go on and = on.....

Thanks for listening!

Mel

My=20 Colin site has moved slightly (note the "2" after=20 hanks):

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From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
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Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: = Thoughts and=20 observations about "Crazy"

Hey Guys,

Firstly, how great was it to finally see a new episode?! It = seems the=20 buildup to this episode was greater than any before. I have to = admit that=20 I was one of the people who was very concerned with the new = "direction"=20 the show was going to take. While I enjoy the science fiction = aspect of=20 the show, it’s the little relationship moments that have = really touched me=20 beyond belief. However, the writers proved how capable and in tune = with=20 the characters they really are with tonight’s episode. After = seeing this,=20 I can see the initial vision of the show a little clearer. Tonight = was the=20 first time that I honestly felt it was "The X Files crosses = Dawsons Creek"=20 and I for one am loving it.The episode was so amazing! Here are = some=20 thoughts and observations:

1) I really liked the "Previously seen on = Roswell"=20 clips that started the show. It was a great set of clips and a = good "cliff=20 notes" version for new viewers. If that montage of scenes doesn't = get=20 people in, nothing will.

2) Couples in Roswell: Nothing is ever simple, = is it?=20 The three main couples really are vastly different and it's = obvious in how=20 they're handling the Topolsky/FBI/alien-human relations = situation.

      A) Liz and Max: = Ahhh,=20 the quiet before the storm. Max and Liz were so sweet tonight and = very=20 "couple-y" It was good to see some continuity between "Sexual = Healing" and=20 "Crazy" which is something that the writers have been a little = laxed=20 about. It was also interesting to see Max and Liz disagree about = the=20 Topolsky/trust issue and it was even better to see neither one = back down.=20 I was afraid that Liz would cower a little but she stood her = ground. It's=20 obvious their love runs deep and that Liz is really scared for Max = and=20 what could potentially always be a threat to his life...his very=20 existence. It's so obvious how deep their connection runs; it = almost seems=20 eternal. It was so nice to see, even if for one episode, what it = would be=20 like for Max and Liz to be a normal couple.

       B) Maria and=20 Michael: It was good to see them in the contrast to = Max and=20 Liz. Max and Liz are so perfectly matched. Both are honor = students, both=20 are pretty "play by the rules" kind of people, both are incredibly = rational. Then there's Michael and Maria who at times have this = great=20 symbiotic relationship and then the next instance are like oil and = water.=20 Watching them is like watching a roller coaster ride with its ups = and=20 downs constantly changing the equilibrium of things. This works = for them=20 in a big way. Majandra and Brendan were incredible tonight. The = wanting on=20 Maria's part to have what Max and Liz have, the desperation on = Michael's=20 part to try and accomodate her, the bickering, the caring, and = finally the=20 culminating scene in the woods where Maria WOULD not leave Michael = even if=20 it meant she would be hurt. Great scene, very revealing in many = ways of=20 how they really feel about each other. Awesome acting!

        C) Alex and=20 Isabel. There is so much potential there. They are both = really=20 fascinating characters. Isabel is such a hard one to figure out. = One thing=20 is for certain. Isabel is lonely. Lonely for friendship, for = someone to=20 love her, for someone to understand her, but most importantly, = lonely for=20 someone to want to know her back. I imagine she's used to people = wanting=20 to know her because she's pretty and popular(though we've never = seen her=20 with "friends" other than in the Toy House, her popularity is = alluded to=20 many times throughout the series) no one really has ever wanted to = know=20 the real her. That's sort of why the Alex/Isabel relationship is = so ripe.=20 Alex is in a completely different clique of students yet has the = same=20 isolation issues that Isabel has. Not many people want to get to = know Alex=20 either. He's not overly popular or smart, he's just average. I = hope Isabel=20 and Alex can persevere.

3) Topolsky, the aliens' safety and these "alien=20 hunters": Just had to say that Julie Benz was awesome = tonight.=20 Her trepidation and fear were palpable. I have read some spoilers, = not=20 all, so I'm not completely sure where this is leading. I do know = that I=20 don't trust anyone! I do think that the aliens will have to come = to a=20 decision within themselves, especially Michael and Isabel about = trusting=20 the humans completely. Max trusts Liz implicitly and I honestly = feel as if=20 he trusts Alex and Maria too(he said it in tonights episode but I = think he=20 really believes it too). Michael and Isabel still have the "aliens = vs.=20 humans" mentality and that has to change if they all want to stay = safe.=20 Very scary stuff tonight though. Topolsky, Valenti, Pierce,=20 Nasedo...everyone is suspect and no one's intentions seem obvious = anymore.=20 Can't wait to see this pan out.

Two interesting quotes:

A) "It's not 3 and 3 Michael, it's the 6 of us" -Liz. This is = definetly=20 an interesting line (can someone smell the foreshadowing?) and one = that=20 will prove harder to live by as time goes on I'm sure. It's great = that=20 these three aliens love these three humans but will they ever be = six? Will=20 they ever be able to find this true common ground? I love Max and = Liz so=20 much and I want to see them happy, but their differences become = more of an=20 obstacle every time they're together. Yes they love each other, = yes they=20 feel complete when they're together, but as you can see from the = previews=20 to next week's show, these things can be fleeting. It's all a lot = to=20 process. What do you guys think?

B) "I just really want this to be over with" -Maria. Another=20 interesting line and one that shows how young and perhaps naive = Maria and=20 Liz are. This line disturbed me a little because it shows that = Maria =20 doesn't (or won't) fully comprehend the complexity and severity of = the=20 situation. Michael will never stop being an alien and she'll never = stop=20 being a human. "This" will never be over.

4) Tess: Ah, the Tess = person. To=20 be honest and I swear I'm not saying this as a Max and Liz = shipper, I=20 really didn't like her introduction into the Pod Squad. It felt = incredibly=20 forced to me. Isabel is so guarded and has that wall up just as = high, if=20 not higher than Michael's and yet she so quickly embraced Tess? I = know=20 she's lonely but it still seemed slightly out of character for = her. Also,=20 I didn't find her sweet at all, I found her treacly. I think the = actress=20 playing her is really cute though but not the type of character I = would=20 have liked to see come in between Max and Liz. My feeling is, if = you're=20 going to attempt to stir the pot of a couple(which is what Tess is = going=20 to do) then you have to at least have a character as interesting = or=20 likeable as the person she/he is trying to replace. Based on = tonight, I=20 didn't feel it. I'm hoping that this will change as time goes by = but I=20 want her to at least be a viable candidate for Max's heart. = Otherwise,=20 it's all pretty superfluous for me and it's all about waiting for = Max and=20 Liz to find their way back to each other. Any thoughts? =

5) The transition to science = fiction:=20 What I loved about this episode was how well balanced it truly = was. Not=20 since the pilot, have I felt this enthusiastic about the science = fiction=20 of the story. Usually I am more intrigued by the hand holding = scene in=20 "Sexual Healing" between Max and Liz or the bed scene between = Maria and=20 Michael in "Independence Day" but tonight I was really into the = entire=20 episode. This show continues to amaze me with it's writing staff = and it's=20 actors and how smoothly they make the transition between drama and = comedy,=20 bravery and fear, all in one episode. This was an incredibly taut = episode=20 and I am confident that they will be able to sustain this for = years to=20 come! (optimism up. American flag waving. "Star Spangled Banner = playing in=20 the background. A thinly veiled plea to write more letters and = send more=20 sauce. I will stop now) :)

6) Weekly Shallow Post: = Everyone looked=20 amazing tonight. I have never seen Shiri look better! Maria and = Isabel=20 looked beautiful as well. Michael, gotta love a guy in a bandana. = Alex is=20 just always adorable. Jason. Oh my! I'm going to refrain from = gushing here=20 but I will say that I think he's the best looking man I have ever = seen! I=20 also loved the Cameron Diaz in "Being John Malkovich" wig that = Topolsky=20 wore to the Chinese restaurant. For a minute there I thought = something was=20 going to fly out of it!

Again, an incredible episode and = definetly=20 worth the wait! If this show does not get renewed, then I know = that there=20 is no longer room on television for quality writing, quality = acting and=20 quality entertainment. Keep writing those letters!! Take care! = Gina=20 :)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled.=20 Under moonlight I stood wild
      and = naked.=20 Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil=20 Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter = way back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the = blue=20 sky..."    Patty Griffin
  =20 =

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFA547.723043D0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Great Levis party pics! Date: 14 Apr 2000 16:03:17 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BFA62A.F23EC360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, The Crashdown just posted some amazing shots from the Levis wrap party = last night. Look at Jason and his mom. Now we know where he gets his = good looks from. Neeter, look at my future mother-in-law ;-) Enjoy! Gina = :) http://www.crashdown.com//news/456.shtml ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BFA62A.F23EC360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

The Crashdown just posted some amazing shots from = the Levis=20 wrap party last night. Look at Jason and his mom. Now we know where he = gets his=20 good looks from. Neeter, look at my future mother-in-law ;-) Enjoy! Gina = :)

http://www.crashdown.co= m//news/456.shtml

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BFA62A.F23EC360-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 14 Apr 2000 16:03:52 -0400 ===== Original Message From roswell@lists.xmission.com ===== Nacedo _is_ Pierce! Bwa-ha-ha! Erin Who is Pierce? I've forgotten... Didi Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Great Levis party pics! Date: 14 Apr 2000 17:43:32 -0500 Interesting that Tess was in those photos. I bet that probably means she'll be in next seasons episodes too. Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/10/00 Date: 14 Apr 2000 17:43:36 -0500 He's the supposed interrogator of Topolsky, when she was sent back to Washington. It's likely we may hear that name again in a future episode... > -----Original Message----- > Who is Pierce? I've forgotten... Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "scadian13" Subject: [roswell] Tess question Date: 14 Apr 2000 19:09:06 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BFA644.E7D2C4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable okay, so maybe it is a stupid thought, but is it possible that if Tess = fails to come between Max and Liz (which she probably will) - is she = going to get like all evil and stuff? maybe be like a "spy" or = something for the other side? just wondering what other people think = could happen.... --laura ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BFA644.E7D2C4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

okay, so maybe it is a stupid thought, = but is it=20 possible that if Tess fails to come between Max and Liz (which she = probably=20 will) - is she going to get like all evil and stuff? maybe be like = a "spy"=20 or something for the other side? just wondering what other people = think=20 could happen....

--laura

------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BFA644.E7D2C4C0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Little Willow" Subject: [roswell] Crazy Date: 14 Apr 2000 19:20:58 -0700 "CRAZY" was positively gorgeous. What I've been waiting for all season. The potential and the group dynamic was brought into full effect, and Julie Benz (Topolsky) put in one of the best performances of her career. Endearing us evermore to the relationships, the friendships and the search for self, this hour truly showed us what the series is, and what it can become. Little Willow This week's BLOOD TYPE: http://members.tripod.com/~Little__Willow/bloodtype.html Time to Shine: "Superstar" Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Jason, Nick and Katherine on E! News Weekend Date: 15 Apr 2000 08:05:12 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BFA6B1.53740D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, Just wanted to let you know that Jason, Nick and Katherine were all = interviewed on E! News Weekend from the Levis wrap party. Jason looked = incredible and Nick was so cute. His hair was kind of different. Anyhoo, = it re-airs at different times throughout the weekend so check it out. = Also, I believe they're showing a segment on Access Hollywood (weekend = edition) with Jason and Brendan racing cars together so be sure to check = your local listings for that too. Take care and happy weekend. Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BFA6B1.53740D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to let you know that Jason, Nick and = Katherine=20 were all interviewed on E! News Weekend from the Levis wrap party. Jason = looked=20 incredible and Nick was so cute. His hair was kind of different. Anyhoo, = it=20 re-airs at different times throughout the weekend so check it out. Also, = I=20 believe they're showing a segment on Access Hollywood (weekend edition) = with=20 Jason and Brendan racing cars together so be sure to check your local = listings=20 for that too. Take care and happy weekend. Gina :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BFA6B1.53740D80-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Jason, Nick and Katherine on E! News Weekend Date: 15 Apr 2000 12:39:16 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BFA6D7.9C9345A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I saw Gina..I missed most of it so I am watching tomorrow! Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:05 AM To: RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] Jason, Nick and Katherine on E! News Weekend Hey Guys, Just wanted to let you know that Jason, Nick and Katherine were all interviewed on E! News Weekend from the Levis wrap party. Jason looked incredible and Nick was so cute. His hair was kind of different. Anyhoo, it re-airs at different times throughout the weekend so check it out. Also, I believe they're showing a segment on Access Hollywood (weekend edition) with Jason and Brendan racing cars together so be sure to check your local listings for that too. Take care and happy weekend. Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BFA6D7.9C9345A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I saw=20 Gina..I missed most of it so I am watching tomorrow!

Mel

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From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:05 = AM
To:=20 RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com;=20 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com;=20 All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; = JasonBehr@onelist.com;=20 max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com;=20 roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com;=20 Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; = Roswell-L@onelist.com;=20 RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com;=20 Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com;=20 WBsROSWELL@onelist.com
Subject: [roswell] Jason, Nick and = Katherine=20 on E! News Weekend

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to let you know that Jason, Nick and = Katherine=20 were all interviewed on E! News Weekend from the Levis wrap party. = Jason=20 looked incredible and Nick was so cute. His hair was kind of = different.=20 Anyhoo, it re-airs at different times throughout the weekend so check = it out.=20 Also, I believe they're showing a segment on Access Hollywood (weekend = edition) with Jason and Brendan racing cars together so be sure to = check your=20 local listings for that too. Take care and happy weekend. Gina = :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BFA6D7.9C9345A0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Oh My LORD! Date: 15 Apr 2000 19:59:44 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0343_01BFA715.24B8B5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, I just saw Access Hollywood here in NYC and Oh my Lord, Jason and = Brendan both looked AMAZING. Linda, Denise, Cherry, Emma and all of = other fellow Jason lovers, his arms looked INCREDIBLE in a short sleeved = black shirt.Sorry about the shallow post but I'm allowed a few every now = and again, no? :) Also, it's great exposure for the show, though I = objected to Access Hollywood referring to them as the "WB hunks" They're = so much more than just "hunks" and "prettyboys" but that's neither here = nor there. Enjoy when it airs locally! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0343_01BFA715.24B8B5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

I just saw Access Hollywood here in NYC and Oh my = Lord, Jason=20 and Brendan both looked AMAZING. Linda, Denise, Cherry, Emma and all of = other=20 fellow Jason lovers, his arms looked INCREDIBLE in a short sleeved black = shirt.Sorry about the shallow post but I'm allowed a few every now and = again,=20 no? :) Also, it's great exposure for the show, though I objected to = Access=20 Hollywood referring to them as the "WB hunks" They're so much = more=20 than just "hunks" and "prettyboys" but that's = neither here=20 nor there. Enjoy when it airs locally! Gina :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_0343_01BFA715.24B8B5E0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Date: 17 Apr 2000 18:09:11 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFA898.080F9EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, I was wondering if anybody was having any trouble posting on the = Crashdown boards? I haven't been able to all day. Gina :( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFA898.080F9EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

I was = wondering if anybody=20 was having any trouble posting on the Crashdown boards? I haven't been = able to=20 all day. Gina :(

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_0101_01BFA898.080F9EC0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Date: 17 Apr 2000 18:14:46 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA898.D01B5210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had some trouble last night and this morning but it is working fine for me now Gina! Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:09 PM To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Hey Guys, I was wondering if anybody was having any trouble posting on the Crashdown boards? I haven't been able to all day. Gina :( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA898.D01B5210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I had=20 some trouble last night and this morning but it is working fine for me = now=20 Gina!

Mel

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:09 = PM
To:=20 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com;=20 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; = jason_behr@onelist.com;=20 JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; = max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com;=20 roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com;=20 Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; = Roswell-L@onelist.com;=20 RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com;=20 Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com;=20 WBsROSWELL@onelist.com
Subject: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown=20 boards

Hey Guys,

I was = wondering if anybody=20 was having any trouble posting on the Crashdown boards? I haven't been = able to=20 all day. Gina :(

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFA898.D01B5210-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Date: 17 Apr 2000 18:17:09 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01BFA899.24F28740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mel. Hmmm, I wonder if it's my computer. Grr... Thanks again. = Gina :) -----Original Message----- From: Mel To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards =20 =20 I had some trouble last night and this morning but it is working = fine for me now Gina! =20 Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com = [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:09 PM To: 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; = 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; = jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; = max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; = RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; = roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; = RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; = Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; = WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards =20 =20 Hey Guys, I was wondering if anybody was having any trouble posting on the = Crashdown boards? I haven't been able to all day. Gina :( = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow = strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." = Neil Finn =20 "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail = around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty = Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01BFA899.24F28740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Mel. Hmmm, I wonder if it's = my computer.=20 Grr... Thanks again. Gina :)

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Mel <melroswellfan@yahoo.com>To:=20 roswell@lists.xmission.com= =20 <roswell@lists.xmission.com= >
Date:=20 Monday, April 17, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [roswell] = Roswell=20 Crashdown boards

I=20 had some trouble last night and this morning but it is working fine = for me=20 now Gina!

Mel

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:09 = PM
To:=20 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com;=20 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com;=20 jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; = max-and-liz@onelist.com;=20 max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com;=20 RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com;=20 roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com;=20 RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com;=20 Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com;=20 WBsROSWELL@onelist.com
Subject: [roswell] Roswell = Crashdown=20 boards

Hey Guys,

I was = wondering if=20 anybody was having any trouble posting on the Crashdown boards? = I=20 haven't been able to all day. Gina :(

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled.=20 Under moonlight I stood wild
      = and=20 naked. Felt no shame just my spirit = awakened..."   Neil=20 Finn

"...I'll fly over a = rainbow, I'll=20 be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long = letter=20 way back home
     that says all that I = know is=20 the blue sky..."    Patty = Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_0158_01BFA899.24F28740-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Date: 17 Apr 2000 17:44:32 -0500 Has anyone ever gotten a response from the system operators of the Crashdown? I have NEVER heard back from them from various emails. I don't know if they're too good to write newcomers, or just so busy that they don't have time to write newcomers. I assume getting a link on there is impossible...? -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:17 PM Thanks Mel. Hmmm, I wonder if it's my computer. Grr... Thanks again. Gina :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sarah Gower" Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Crashdown boards Date: 18 Apr 2000 08:57:43 +1000 << From: Mike Stone Has anyone ever gotten a response from the system operators of the Crashdown? I have NEVER heard back from them from various emails. I don't know if they're too good to write newcomers, or just so busy that they don't have time to write newcomers. I assume getting a link on there is impossible...? >> :) Not impossible - I sent in my link details and it was put up on the site, but I didn't hear back from them about it. I don't know why people aren't being answered... Sarah. For Roswell fanfic, check out the roswell-fic list: http://www.onelist.com/group/roswell-fic RFA - Roswell Fic Archive: http://rfa.cjb.net/ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: [roswell] Preview.. Date: 17 Apr 2000 22:12:18 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFA8B9.FEAF9840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did anyone see next weeks preview? About Tess?? It was really weird... I = am not going to give anything away and spoil next weeks episode for = those of you that have not seen it... But tonight's episode was really = strange... Tess must be one of them or something.... She put the broken = piece back together like nothing ever happened .... What did you guys = think..??? Casandra ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFA8B9.FEAF9840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Did = anyone see=20 next weeks preview? About Tess?? It was really weird... I am not going = to give=20 anything away and spoil next weeks episode for those of you that have = not seen=20 it... But tonight's episode was really strange... Tess must be one of = them or=20 something.... She put the broken piece back together like nothing = ever=20 happened .... What did you guys think..???

Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFA8B9.FEAF9840-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape" Date: 17 Apr 2000 23:16:36 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0367_01BFA8C2.FA3EBA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and Liz 'shippers(dreamers) = have been dreading for a long time. Though many of you like Tess and = relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between Max and Liz, I = have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship stuff aside = for now though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was = brilliant. Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the entire = time despite the fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some = of the clips beforehand. It seemed this episode was even faster in pace = than "Crazy" and really incorporated some of the big issues that have = permeated the season. Roswell really is just great. Never have I been so = emotionally and intellectually fascinated by a television show. It is a = real testament to the cast and crew that it continues to expand upon = itself and improve. I am really loving the new direction the show is = taking especially since they're still utilizing all of the things I = loved and bringing them to such a heightened, almost frenzied, = crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and observations: 1) Tess: Let's just get this out of the way. I've tried to like her. I = swear I have. I think Emilie is adorable and a real "firecracker." I = just think that her character is so blatantly out of place on the show = that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a good way). All of the = teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. They all have big = issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would think Tess = would be a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really doesn't = do it for me. I think a lot of it has to do with my not really = understanding why Isabel has gravitated towards her. By all accounts, = Tess seems as shallow and self-centered as all of the other "friends" = that Isabel has shunned. It just doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps she = is under the same spell that Max seems to be under but it still seems = forced. Surely they could have introduced her in a more realistic = manner.=20 2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is another reason that I absolutely love this = show. Though I'm not dating an alien(though some of my ex-boyfriends = have me wondering whether they're from Planet A-hole)I can totally = relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to realize that = that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. Needless = to say, I feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the = fan and she never even saw it coming.=20 Surprisingly, I also really felt for Max at times tonight too. That kiss = that he planted on Liz during the opening scene at the Crashdown was so = desperate. It was like by kissing her, he would somehow cleanse himself = of all of the impure thoughts he was having about Tess. My question is, = how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how you feel? It's not easy = for humans and it certainly is going to be damn near impossible when you = throw in alien history, the search for your past and yourself and a = possible forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in this case a = beautiful young girl.=20 That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz looking on was nothing = short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that I really = didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and = Max seem to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in = complication. If you didn't know them, you would think it was just = another case of a straying boyfriend. Funny. 3) Max and Michael: This relationship really is slowly deteriorating, = isn't it? It seems that each week, something happens to tear them = further and further apart. I thought it was terribly sad when Michael = emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when you're a kid and = you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, bravest = people in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just = human. That's what I kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. = Michael is growing more independent and making decisions, good and bad, = on his own without informing Max. We have to hope that the growing pains = don't tear them up to a point where the damage is irreparable.=20 4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not the biggest Michael and Maria = 'shipper, I do love these characters individually. I do have to say that = Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend thing by warning Liz = about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really loved how she = comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was a jerk! = Amen sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. = She's the real deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone = like Maria "has got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship = tonight. The only thing that would have made it even better would to = have included Alex in the mix. He's known them forever and it would have = been nice to see the three aliens bond like we so often see their alien = counterparts do. 5) Michael and Liz: What an amazing surprise to see Michael defend Liz. = He had this really protective thing going on with her and I for one = LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about betraying Liz and how = Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from Tess and her dad. = Michael really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a man. Nice = growth of characterization! 6) Liz: Again, I am completely biased but I thought Shiri was fantastic = tonight. She broke my heart with just a look as she stood by the = Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, kiss another girl. = She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max and then = confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. I could = literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far = and it was great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely = feel with her heart only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling = her too?=20 7) Max: I think Max is trying to battle Angel for most tortured soul :) = . Jason always astounds me with the depth that he brings to his = character but tonight he was just so "on". He hated himself for what he = was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing to Liz and yet he = couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was very = telling that he said to Liz that it was "more than just attraction", = implying that there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed = "what an ass" a few times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize = with him. He is as confused as everyone else is by what's happening and = it's fascinating to watch this completely controlled person, become = undone. Jason rocks again. 8)Valenti and the Gang: I personally am loving the Valenti as ally = thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I think he is genuinely scared = for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little shaken by him speaking = to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for so long but I = guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the orb was a = great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to see = how that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He rules! 9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit in?: I think it was Mala on the = boards who made this great distinction between fate and destiny.(Mala, = If you're reading this, please elaborate) For me, destiny implies a = pre-determined plan while fate is more accidental or coincidental. In = many ways, I think at least, destiny can be changed by fate. I think = fate can sneak up on us and change the course of things in a heartbeat. = That destiny is only pre-determined to the extent that it is what is = "supposed" to happen as opposed to "fate" which might not have been = planned but can open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, when = Max said that it was "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really = started thinking about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love = fits into all of this. Are Liz and Max fated to be together? They love = each other that's easy to see but do they belong together in the grander = scheme of things. I'm sure Max was destined to be with another = alien(whether that proves to be Tess in the future is another story) but = was it fate that brought him to Liz? Since the moment he saw her in the = 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? Was that destiny? And can love = change one or both of those things? I'm not really sure but I would love = to hear what you guys think?=20 Other things I noticed: A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and Isabel aside to tell = them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he reverted back to = the 3 and 3 formation. B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I thought I was"-Maria. She = cracks me up!! C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see with me eyes tells me = he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me he's not"-Liz. = That is love. D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear Liz declare her love = for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a dreamgirl, I was so = happy!!! :D :D :D E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that Kyle was finally on the screen, = albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for the four horsemen and = other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see him back. I = also thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were on in the = same episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions of = having both of them on together were erroneous LOL! :) F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to take some lessons from = the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious standing outside of = Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael or Alex to = hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :) G) Is it me or is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's = the deal with that? H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's chest...too sweet.=20 Shallow post of the week: I am so loving Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys = looked really hot, especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those = arms!!!) and the shirt he wore during the first kiss with Liz at the = Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to say it but that Tess and Max lab table = scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh and how cute were the pics of = Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for sure it was a dreamgirl = who took them! LOL :) Again, another just incredible episode. I know this one was long but it = was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this whole Tess = storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) will = survive and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just keeps = getting better and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive = weren't in vain and that the WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show = it has!=20 Take care all. Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the = planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0367_01BFA8C2.FA3EBA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Guys,

Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and Liz=20 'shippers(dreamers) have been dreading for a long time. Though many of = you like=20 Tess and relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between Max = and Liz, I=20 have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship stuff aside = for now=20 though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was brilliant.=20 Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the entire time = despite the=20 fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some of the clips = beforehand.=20 It seemed this episode was even faster in pace than "Crazy" = and really=20 incorporated some of the big issues that have permeated the season. = Roswell=20 really is just great. Never have I been so emotionally and = intellectually=20 fascinated by a television show. It is a real testament to the cast and = crew=20 that it continues to expand upon itself and improve. I am really loving = the new=20 direction the show is taking especially since they're still utilizing = all of the=20 things I loved and bringing them to such a heightened, almost frenzied,=20 crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and observations:

1) Tess: Let's just get this out of = the way.=20 I've tried to like her. I swear I have. I think Emilie is adorable and a = real=20 "firecracker." I just think that her character is so blatantly = out of=20 place on the show that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a = good way).=20 All of the teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. They all = have big=20 issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would think Tess = would be=20 a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really doesn't do it for = me. I=20 think a lot of it has to do with my not really understanding why Isabel = has=20 gravitated towards her. By all accounts, Tess seems as shallow and = self-centered=20 as all of the other "friends" that Isabel has shunned. It just = doesn't=20 seem right to me. Perhaps she is under the same spell that Max seems to = be under=20 but it still seems forced. Surely they could have introduced her in a = more=20 realistic manner.

2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is another = reason=20 that I absolutely love this show. Though I'm not dating an alien(though = some of=20 my ex-boyfriends have me wondering whether they're from Planet A-hole)I = can=20 totally relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to = realize that=20 that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. Needless = to say, I=20 feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the = fan and=20 she never even saw it coming.

Surprisingly, I also = really felt for=20 Max at times tonight too. That kiss that he planted on Liz during the = opening=20 scene at the Crashdown was so desperate. It was like by kissing her, he = would=20 somehow cleanse himself of all of the impure thoughts he was having = about Tess.=20 My question is, how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how you = feel? It's=20 not easy for humans and it certainly is going to be damn near impossible = when=20 you throw in alien history, the search for your past and yourself and a = possible=20 forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in this case a beautiful = young girl.=20

That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz looking = on was=20 nothing short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that I = really=20 didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and = Max seem=20 to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in = complication. If=20 you didn't know them, you would think it was just another case of a = straying=20 boyfriend. Funny.

3) Max and Michael: This = relationship really=20 is slowly deteriorating, isn't it? It seems that each week, something = happens to=20 tear them further and further apart. I thought it was terribly sad when = Michael=20 emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when you're = a kid=20 and you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, bravest = people=20 in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just human. = That's what I=20 kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. Michael is growing more=20 independent and making decisions, good and bad, on his own without = informing=20 Max. We have to hope that the growing pains don't tear them up to a = point where=20 the damage is irreparable.

4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not = the biggest=20 Michael and Maria 'shipper, I do love these characters individually. I = do have=20 to say that Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend thing by = warning=20 Liz about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really loved how = she=20 comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was a jerk! = Amen=20 sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. She's = the real=20 deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone like Maria = "has=20 got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship tonight. The = only thing=20 that would have made it even better would to have included Alex in the = mix. He's=20 known them forever and it would have been nice to see the three aliens = bond like=20 we so often see their alien counterparts do.

5) Michael and Liz: What an amazing = surprise=20 to see Michael defend Liz. He had this really protective thing going on = with her=20 and I for one LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about betraying Liz = and how=20 Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from Tess and her dad. = Michael=20 really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a man. Nice growth of=20 characterization!

6) Liz: Again, I am completely = biased but I=20 thought Shiri was fantastic tonight. She broke my heart with just a look = as she=20 stood by the Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, kiss = another=20 girl. She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max and then=20 confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. I could = literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far = and it was=20 great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely feel with her = heart=20 only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling her too? =

7) Max: I think Max is trying to = battle Angel=20 for most tortured soul :) . Jason always astounds me with the depth that = he=20 brings to his character but tonight he was just so "on". He = hated=20 himself for what he was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing = to Liz=20 and yet he couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was = very=20 telling that he said to Liz that it was "more than just = attraction",=20 implying that there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed = "what=20 an ass" a few times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize = with=20 him. He is as confused as everyone else is by what's happening and it's=20 fascinating to watch this completely controlled person, become undone. = Jason=20 rocks again.

8)Valenti and the Gang: I = personally am=20 loving the Valenti as ally thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I = think he=20 is genuinely scared for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little = shaken by=20 him speaking to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for so = long=20 but I guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the orb = was a=20 great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to see = how=20 that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He = rules!

9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit = in?:=20 I think it was Mala on the boards who made this great distinction = between fate=20 and destiny.(Mala, If you're reading this, please elaborate) For me, = destiny=20 implies a pre-determined plan while fate is more accidental or = coincidental. In=20 many ways, I think at least, destiny can be changed by fate. I think = fate can=20 sneak up on us and change the course of things in a heartbeat. That = destiny is=20 only pre-determined to the extent that it is what is = "supposed" to=20 happen as opposed to "fate" which might not have been planned = but can=20 open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, when Max said that it = was=20 "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really started = thinking=20 about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love fits into all of = this. Are=20 Liz and Max fated to be together? They love each other that's easy to = see but do=20 they belong together in the grander scheme of things. I'm sure Max was = destined=20 to be with another alien(whether that proves to be Tess in the future is = another=20 story) but was it fate that brought him to Liz? Since the moment he saw = her in=20 the 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? Was that destiny? And can = love=20 change one or both of those things? I'm not really sure but I would love = to hear=20 what you guys think?

Other things I = noticed:

A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and = Isabel aside=20 to tell them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he reverted = back to=20 the 3 and 3 formation.

B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I = thought I=20 was"-Maria. She cracks me up!!

C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see = with me=20 eyes tells me he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me = he's=20 not"-Liz. That is love.

D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear = Liz declare=20 her love for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a dreamgirl, I = was so=20 happy!!! :D :D :D
E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that Kyle was = finally on=20 the screen, albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for the four = horsemen and=20 other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see him back. I = also=20 thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were on in the same = episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions of having = both of=20 them on together were erroneous LOL! :)

F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to = take some=20 lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious standing = outside=20 of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael or Alex to = hold up=20 a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :)
G) Is it = me or=20 is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's the deal with=20 that?

H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's = chest...too=20 sweet.

Shallow post of the week:
I am = so loving=20 Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys looked really = hot,=20 especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those arms!!!) and the shirt he = wore=20 during the first kiss with Liz at the Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to say = it but=20 that Tess and Max lab table scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh and = how cute=20 were the pics of Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for sure it = was a dreamgirl who took them! LOL :)

Again, another just incredible episode. I know this = one was=20 long but it was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this = whole=20 Tess storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) will = survive=20 and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just keeps getting = better=20 and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive weren't in vain and = that the=20 WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show it has!

Take care all. Gina = :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
=20

------=_NextPart_000_0367_01BFA8C2.FA3EBA80-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELLEROFTALESDT@webtv.net (JOYCE DATES) Subject: Re: [roswell] Tess question Date: 17 Apr 2000 22:12:19 -0500 (CDT) i think that tess should stay on the roswell spice up the show you know.just as long as she doesn't come between max ad liz.just so you know , i'm a big max and liz fan.i think maybe they should have her fall for kyle or something. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape" Date: 17 Apr 2000 23:27:40 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA8C4.85F84540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rather than comment and expand on Gina's email, I just want to agree with one statement (though I agree with all of them) that pretty much sums up how I feel about this show and every episode that keeps pulling me deeper and deeper into the storylines. "Never have I been so emotionally and intellectually fascinated by a television show." -Gina I totally agree...emotionally, I really feel like thesse characters are real, or at least, I can realte to them (aliens aside). Intelletually, the show always keeps me on my toes, especially these last few episodes. I am glad there is finally a show that challenges my thinking capabilities. Never has Dawson's Creek driven me to such a degree. Thanks to the WB, and Jonathon Frakes whose input has been shining through immensely the past two episodes...anyone else agreee? Remember Star Trek the next Generation?? Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:17 PM To: RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape" Hey Guys, Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and Liz 'shippers(dreamers) have been dreading for a long time. Though many of you like Tess and relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between Max and Liz, I have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship stuff aside for now though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the entire time despite the fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some of the clips beforehand. It seemed this episode was even faster in pace than "Crazy" and really incorporated some of the big issues that have permeated the season. Roswell really is just great. Never have I been so emotionally and intellectually fascinated by a television show. It is a real testament to the cast and crew that it continues to expand upon itself and improve. I am really loving the new direction the show is taking especially since they're still utilizing all of the things I loved and bringing them to such a heightened, almost frenzied, crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and observations: 1) Tess: Let's just get this out of the way. I've tried to like her. I swear I have. I think Emilie is adorable and a real "firecracker." I just think that her character is so blatantly out of place on the show that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a good way). All of the teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. They all have big issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would think Tess would be a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really doesn't do it for me. I think a lot of it has to do with my not really understanding why Isabel has gravitated towards her. By all accounts, Tess seems as shallow and self-centered as all of the other "friends" that Isabel has shunned. It just doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps she is under the same spell that Max seems to be under but it still seems forced. Surely they could have introduced her in a more realistic manner. 2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is another reason that I absolutely love this show. Though I'm not dating an alien(though some of my ex-boyfriends have me wondering whether they're from Planet A-hole)I can totally relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to realize that that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. Needless to say, I feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the fan and she never even saw it coming. Surprisingly, I also really felt for Max at times tonight too. That kiss that he planted on Liz during the opening scene at the Crashdown was so desperate. It was like by kissing her, he would somehow cleanse himself of all of the impure thoughts he was having about Tess. My question is, how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how you feel? It's not easy for humans and it certainly is going to be damn near impossible when you throw in alien history, the search for your past and yourself and a possible forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in this case a beautiful young girl. That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz looking on was nothing short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that I really didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and Max seem to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in complication. If you didn't know them, you would think it was just another case of a straying boyfriend. Funny. 3) Max and Michael: This relationship really is slowly deteriorating, isn't it? It seems that each week, something happens to tear them further and further apart. I thought it was terribly sad when Michael emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when you're a kid and you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, bravest people in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just human. That's what I kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. Michael is growing more independent and making decisions, good and bad, on his own without informing Max. We have to hope that the growing pains don't tear them up to a point where the damage is irreparable. 4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not the biggest Michael and Maria 'shipper, I do love these characters individually. I do have to say that Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend thing by warning Liz about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really loved how she comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was a jerk! Amen sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. She's the real deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone like Maria "has got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship tonight. The only thing that would have made it even better would to have included Alex in the mix. He's known them forever and it would have been nice to see the three aliens bond like we so often see their alien counterparts do. 5) Michael and Liz: What an amazing surprise to see Michael defend Liz. He had this really protective thing going on with her and I for one LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about betraying Liz and how Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from Tess and her dad. Michael really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a man. Nice growth of characterization! 6) Liz: Again, I am completely biased but I thought Shiri was fantastic tonight. She broke my heart with just a look as she stood by the Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, kiss another girl. She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max and then confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. I could literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far and it was great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely feel with her heart only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling her too? 7) Max: I think Max is trying to battle Angel for most tortured soul :) . Jason always astounds me with the depth that he brings to his character but tonight he was just so "on". He hated himself for what he was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing to Liz and yet he couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was very telling that he said to Liz that it was "more than just attraction", implying that there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed "what an ass" a few times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize with him. He is as confused as everyone else is by what's happening and it's fascinating to watch this completely controlled person, become undone. Jason rocks again. 8)Valenti and the Gang: I personally am loving the Valenti as ally thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I think he is genuinely scared for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little shaken by him speaking to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for so long but I guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the orb was a great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to see how that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He rules! 9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit in?: I think it was Mala on the boards who made this great distinction between fate and destiny.(Mala, If you're reading this, please elaborate) For me, destiny implies a pre-determined plan while fate is more accidental or coincidental. In many ways, I think at least, destiny can be changed by fate. I think fate can sneak up on us and change the course of things in a heartbeat. That destiny is only pre-determined to the extent that it is what is "supposed" to happen as opposed to "fate" which might not have been planned but can open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, when Max said that it was "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really started thinking about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love fits into all of this. Are Liz and Max fated to be together? They love each other that's easy to see but do they belong together in the grander scheme of things. I'm sure Max was destined to be with another alien(whether that proves to be Tess in the future is another story) but was it fate that brought him to Liz? Since the moment he saw her in the 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? Was that destiny? And can love change one or both of those things? I'm not really sure but I would love to hear what you guys think? Other things I noticed: A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and Isabel aside to tell them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he reverted back to the 3 and 3 formation. B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I thought I was"-Maria. She cracks me up!! C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see with me eyes tells me he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me he's not"-Liz. That is love. D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear Liz declare her love for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a dreamgirl, I was so happy!!! :D :D :D E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that Kyle was finally on the screen, albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for the four horsemen and other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see him back. I also thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were on in the same episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions of having both of them on together were erroneous LOL! :) F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to take some lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious standing outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael or Alex to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :) G) Is it me or is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's the deal with that? H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's chest...too sweet. Shallow post of the week: I am so loving Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys looked really hot, especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those arms!!!) and the shirt he wore during the first kiss with Liz at the Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to say it but that Tess and Max lab table scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh and how cute were the pics of Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for sure it was a dreamgirl who took them! LOL :) Again, another just incredible episode. I know this one was long but it was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this whole Tess storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) will survive and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just keeps getting better and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive weren't in vain and that the WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show it has! Take care all. Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." 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Rather=20 than comment and expand on Gina's email, I just want to agree with one = statement=20 (though I agree with all of them) that pretty much sums up how I feel = about this=20 show and every episode that keeps pulling me deeper and deeper into the=20 storylines.

"Never have I been so emotionally and=20 intellectually fascinated by a television show."=20 -Gina

I totally agree...emotionally, I really feel = like=20 thesse characters are real, or at least, I can realte to them (aliens = aside).=20

Intelletually, the show always keeps me on my = toes,=20 especially these last few episodes. I am glad there is finally a show = that=20 challenges my thinking capabilities. Never has Dawson's Creek driven me = to such=20 a degree.

Thanks to the WB, and Jonathon Frakes = whose input=20 has been shining through immensely the past two episodes...anyone else = agreee?=20 Remember Star Trek the next = Generation??

Mel

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From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:17 = PM
To:=20 RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com;=20 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com;=20 All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; = JasonBehr@onelist.com;=20 max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com;=20 roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com;=20 Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; = Roswell-L@onelist.com;=20 RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com;=20 Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com;=20 WBsROSWELL@onelist.com
Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts = and=20 Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape"

Hey Guys,

Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and = Liz=20 'shippers(dreamers) have been dreading for a long time. Though many of = you=20 like Tess and relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between = Max and=20 Liz, I have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship = stuff aside=20 for now though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was=20 brilliant. Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the = entire time=20 despite the fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some of = the=20 clips beforehand. It seemed this episode was even faster in pace than = "Crazy"=20 and really incorporated some of the big issues that have permeated the = season.=20 Roswell really is just great. Never have I been so emotionally and=20 intellectually fascinated by a television show. It is a real testament = to the=20 cast and crew that it continues to expand upon itself and improve. I = am really=20 loving the new direction the show is taking especially since they're = still=20 utilizing all of the things I loved and bringing them to such a = heightened,=20 almost frenzied, crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and=20 observations:

1) Tess: Let's just get this out = of the=20 way. I've tried to like her. I swear I have. I think Emilie is = adorable and a=20 real "firecracker." I just think that her character is so blatantly = out of=20 place on the show that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a = good=20 way). All of the teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. = They all=20 have big issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would = think=20 Tess would be a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really = doesn't do=20 it for me. I think a lot of it has to do with my not really = understanding why=20 Isabel has gravitated towards her. By all accounts, Tess seems as = shallow and=20 self-centered as all of the other "friends" that Isabel has shunned. = It just=20 doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps she is under the same spell that Max = seems=20 to be under but it still seems forced. Surely they could have = introduced her=20 in a more realistic manner.

2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is = another reason=20 that I absolutely love this show. Though I'm not dating an = alien(though some=20 of my ex-boyfriends have me wondering whether they're from Planet = A-hole)I can=20 totally relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to = realize=20 that that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. = Needless to=20 say, I feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the = fan and=20 she never even saw it coming.

Surprisingly, I also = really felt for=20 Max at times tonight too. That kiss that he planted on Liz during the = opening=20 scene at the Crashdown was so desperate. It was like by kissing her, = he would=20 somehow cleanse himself of all of the impure thoughts he was having = about=20 Tess. My question is, how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how = you=20 feel? It's not easy for humans and it certainly is going to be damn = near=20 impossible when you throw in alien history, the search for your past = and=20 yourself and a possible forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in = this=20 case a beautiful young girl.

That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz = looking on was=20 nothing short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that = I really=20 didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and = Max=20 seem to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in=20 complication. If you didn't know them, you would think it was just = another=20 case of a straying boyfriend. Funny.

3) Max and Michael: This = relationship=20 really is slowly deteriorating, isn't it? It seems that each week, = something=20 happens to tear them further and further apart. I thought it was = terribly sad=20 when Michael emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when = you're a=20 kid and you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, = bravest=20 people in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just = human.=20 That's what I kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. Michael is = growing=20 more independent and making decisions, good and bad, on his own = without=20 informing Max. We have to hope that the growing pains don't tear them = up to a=20 point where the damage is irreparable.

4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not = the=20 biggest Michael and Maria 'shipper, I do love these characters = individually. I=20 do have to say that Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend = thing by=20 warning Liz about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really = loved=20 how she comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was = a jerk!=20 Amen sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. = She's=20 the real deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone like = Maria=20 "has got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship tonight. The = only=20 thing that would have made it even better would to have included Alex = in the=20 mix. He's known them forever and it would have been nice to see the = three=20 aliens bond like we so often see their alien counterparts = do.

5) Michael and Liz: What an = amazing=20 surprise to see Michael defend Liz. He had this really protective = thing going=20 on with her and I for one LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about=20 betraying Liz and how Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from = Tess=20 and her dad. Michael really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a = man.=20 Nice growth of characterization!

6) Liz: Again, I am completely = biased but I=20 thought Shiri was fantastic tonight. She broke my heart with just a = look as=20 she stood by the Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, = kiss=20 another girl. She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max = and=20 then confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. = I could=20 literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far = and it=20 was great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely feel = with her=20 heart only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling her too?=20

7) Max: I think Max is trying to = battle=20 Angel for most tortured soul :) . Jason always astounds me with the = depth that=20 he brings to his character but tonight he was just so "on". He hated = himself=20 for what he was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing to Liz = and yet=20 he couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was very = telling=20 that he said to Liz that it was "more than just attraction", implying = that=20 there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed "what an ass" = a few=20 times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize with him. He is = as=20 confused as everyone else is by what's happening and it's fascinating = to watch=20 this completely controlled person, become undone. Jason rocks=20 again.

8)Valenti and the Gang: I = personally am=20 loving the Valenti as ally thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I = think he=20 is genuinely scared for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little = shaken by=20 him speaking to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for = so long=20 but I guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the = orb was a=20 great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to = see how=20 that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He=20 rules!

9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit=20 in?: I think it was Mala on the boards who made this great=20 distinction between fate and destiny.(Mala, If you're reading this, = please=20 elaborate) For me, destiny implies a pre-determined plan while fate is = more=20 accidental or coincidental. In many ways, I think at least, destiny = can be=20 changed by fate. I think fate can sneak up on us and change the course = of=20 things in a heartbeat. That destiny is only pre-determined to the = extent that=20 it is what is "supposed" to happen as opposed to "fate" which might = not have=20 been planned but can open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, = when Max=20 said that it was "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really = started=20 thinking about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love fits into = all of=20 this. Are Liz and Max fated to be together? They love each other = that's easy=20 to see but do they belong together in the grander scheme of things. = I'm sure=20 Max was destined to be with another alien(whether that proves to be = Tess in=20 the future is another story) but was it fate that brought him to Liz? = Since=20 the moment he saw her in the 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? = Was that=20 destiny? And can love change one or both of those things? I'm not = really sure=20 but I would love to hear what you guys think?

Other things I = noticed:

A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and = Isabel=20 aside to tell them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he = reverted=20 back to the 3 and 3 formation.

B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I = thought I=20 was"-Maria. She cracks me up!!

C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see = with me eyes=20 tells me he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me he's=20 not"-Liz. That is love.

D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear = Liz=20 declare her love for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a = dreamgirl, I=20 was so happy!!! :D :D :D
E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that = Kyle was=20 finally on the screen, albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for = the four=20 horsemen and other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see = him=20 back. I also thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were = on in=20 the same episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions = of=20 having both of them on together were erroneous LOL! :)

F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to = take some=20 lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious = standing=20 outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael = or Alex=20 to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :)
G) Is = it me=20 or is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's the deal = with=20 that?

H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's = chest...too=20 sweet.

Shallow post of the week:
I am = so loving=20 Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys looked = really hot,=20 especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those arms!!!) and the shirt = he wore=20 during the first kiss with Liz at the Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to = say it=20 but that Tess and Max lab table scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh = and how=20 cute were the pics of Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for = sure it=20 was a dreamgirl who took them! LOL :)

Again, another just incredible episode. I know = this one was=20 long but it was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this = whole=20 Tess storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) = will=20 survive and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just = keeps=20 getting better and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive = weren't in=20 vain and that the WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show it has!=20

Take care all. Gina = :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA8C4.85F84540-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape" Date: 17 Apr 2000 23:37:49 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFA8C5.F1237640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another comment to add...Gina..I totally started bursting out laughing when the gang pulled up in the jetta (aka mystery machine)..Even though It was a suspenseful moment, I could not help myself..LOL ~Mel "F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to take some lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious standing outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael or Alex to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :)" -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:17 PM To: RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape" Hey Guys, Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and Liz 'shippers(dreamers) have been dreading for a long time. Though many of you like Tess and relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between Max and Liz, I have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship stuff aside for now though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the entire time despite the fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some of the clips beforehand. It seemed this episode was even faster in pace than "Crazy" and really incorporated some of the big issues that have permeated the season. Roswell really is just great. Never have I been so emotionally and intellectually fascinated by a television show. It is a real testament to the cast and crew that it continues to expand upon itself and improve. I am really loving the new direction the show is taking especially since they're still utilizing all of the things I loved and bringing them to such a heightened, almost frenzied, crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and observations: 1) Tess: Let's just get this out of the way. I've tried to like her. I swear I have. I think Emilie is adorable and a real "firecracker." I just think that her character is so blatantly out of place on the show that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a good way). All of the teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. They all have big issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would think Tess would be a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really doesn't do it for me. I think a lot of it has to do with my not really understanding why Isabel has gravitated towards her. By all accounts, Tess seems as shallow and self-centered as all of the other "friends" that Isabel has shunned. It just doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps she is under the same spell that Max seems to be under but it still seems forced. Surely they could have introduced her in a more realistic manner. 2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is another reason that I absolutely love this show. Though I'm not dating an alien(though some of my ex-boyfriends have me wondering whether they're from Planet A-hole)I can totally relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to realize that that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. Needless to say, I feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the fan and she never even saw it coming. Surprisingly, I also really felt for Max at times tonight too. That kiss that he planted on Liz during the opening scene at the Crashdown was so desperate. It was like by kissing her, he would somehow cleanse himself of all of the impure thoughts he was having about Tess. My question is, how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how you feel? It's not easy for humans and it certainly is going to be damn near impossible when you throw in alien history, the search for your past and yourself and a possible forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in this case a beautiful young girl. That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz looking on was nothing short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that I really didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and Max seem to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in complication. If you didn't know them, you would think it was just another case of a straying boyfriend. Funny. 3) Max and Michael: This relationship really is slowly deteriorating, isn't it? It seems that each week, something happens to tear them further and further apart. I thought it was terribly sad when Michael emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when you're a kid and you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, bravest people in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just human. That's what I kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. Michael is growing more independent and making decisions, good and bad, on his own without informing Max. We have to hope that the growing pains don't tear them up to a point where the damage is irreparable. 4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not the biggest Michael and Maria 'shipper, I do love these characters individually. I do have to say that Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend thing by warning Liz about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really loved how she comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was a jerk! Amen sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. She's the real deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone like Maria "has got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship tonight. The only thing that would have made it even better would to have included Alex in the mix. He's known them forever and it would have been nice to see the three aliens bond like we so often see their alien counterparts do. 5) Michael and Liz: What an amazing surprise to see Michael defend Liz. He had this really protective thing going on with her and I for one LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about betraying Liz and how Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from Tess and her dad. Michael really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a man. Nice growth of characterization! 6) Liz: Again, I am completely biased but I thought Shiri was fantastic tonight. She broke my heart with just a look as she stood by the Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, kiss another girl. She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max and then confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. I could literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far and it was great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely feel with her heart only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling her too? 7) Max: I think Max is trying to battle Angel for most tortured soul :) . Jason always astounds me with the depth that he brings to his character but tonight he was just so "on". He hated himself for what he was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing to Liz and yet he couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was very telling that he said to Liz that it was "more than just attraction", implying that there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed "what an ass" a few times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize with him. He is as confused as everyone else is by what's happening and it's fascinating to watch this completely controlled person, become undone. Jason rocks again. 8)Valenti and the Gang: I personally am loving the Valenti as ally thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I think he is genuinely scared for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little shaken by him speaking to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for so long but I guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the orb was a great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to see how that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He rules! 9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit in?: I think it was Mala on the boards who made this great distinction between fate and destiny.(Mala, If you're reading this, please elaborate) For me, destiny implies a pre-determined plan while fate is more accidental or coincidental. In many ways, I think at least, destiny can be changed by fate. I think fate can sneak up on us and change the course of things in a heartbeat. That destiny is only pre-determined to the extent that it is what is "supposed" to happen as opposed to "fate" which might not have been planned but can open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, when Max said that it was "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really started thinking about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love fits into all of this. Are Liz and Max fated to be together? They love each other that's easy to see but do they belong together in the grander scheme of things. I'm sure Max was destined to be with another alien(whether that proves to be Tess in the future is another story) but was it fate that brought him to Liz? Since the moment he saw her in the 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? Was that destiny? And can love change one or both of those things? I'm not really sure but I would love to hear what you guys think? Other things I noticed: A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and Isabel aside to tell them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he reverted back to the 3 and 3 formation. B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I thought I was"-Maria. She cracks me up!! C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see with me eyes tells me he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me he's not"-Liz. That is love. D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear Liz declare her love for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a dreamgirl, I was so happy!!! :D :D :D E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that Kyle was finally on the screen, albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for the four horsemen and other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see him back. I also thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were on in the same episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions of having both of them on together were erroneous LOL! :) F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to take some lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious standing outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael or Alex to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :) G) Is it me or is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's the deal with that? H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's chest...too sweet. Shallow post of the week: I am so loving Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys looked really hot, especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those arms!!!) and the shirt he wore during the first kiss with Liz at the Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to say it but that Tess and Max lab table scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh and how cute were the pics of Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for sure it was a dreamgirl who took them! LOL :) Again, another just incredible episode. I know this one was long but it was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this whole Tess storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) will survive and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just keeps getting better and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive weren't in vain and that the WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show it has! Take care all. Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." 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Another comment to add...Gina..I totally = started=20 bursting out laughing when the gang pulled up in the jetta (aka mystery=20 machine)..Even though It was a suspenseful moment, I could not help = myself..LOL=20 ~Mel

"F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad = really need=20 to take some lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more = obvious=20 standing outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for = Michael=20 or Alex to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" = :)"

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From:=20 owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of=20 kaycomp
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:17 = PM
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Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts = and=20 Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videotape"

Hey Guys,

Well, there it was. The episode that we Max and = Liz=20 'shippers(dreamers) have been dreading for a long time. Though many of = you=20 like Tess and relish in the thought of someone, anyone, coming between = Max and=20 Liz, I have to admit that this one hurt. Putting the relationship = stuff aside=20 for now though, I have to say that I really thought this episode was=20 brilliant. Absolutely brilliant I was on the edge of my seat the = entire time=20 despite the fact that I had read some of the spoilers and saw some of = the=20 clips beforehand. It seemed this episode was even faster in pace than = "Crazy"=20 and really incorporated some of the big issues that have permeated the = season.=20 Roswell really is just great. Never have I been so emotionally and=20 intellectually fascinated by a television show. It is a real testament = to the=20 cast and crew that it continues to expand upon itself and improve. I = am really=20 loving the new direction the show is taking especially since they're = still=20 utilizing all of the things I loved and bringing them to such a = heightened,=20 almost frenzied, crescendo. Anyhoo, here are some thoughts and=20 observations:

1) Tess: Let's just get this out = of the=20 way. I've tried to like her. I swear I have. I think Emilie is = adorable and a=20 real "firecracker." I just think that her character is so blatantly = out of=20 place on the show that she sticks out like a sore thumb(and not in a = good=20 way). All of the teens and adults in Roswell are sort of tortured. = They all=20 have big issues and are all pretty subdued in manner. Though I would = think=20 Tess would be a breath of fresh air in contrast to that, she really = doesn't do=20 it for me. I think a lot of it has to do with my not really = understanding why=20 Isabel has gravitated towards her. By all accounts, Tess seems as = shallow and=20 self-centered as all of the other "friends" that Isabel has shunned. = It just=20 doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps she is under the same spell that Max = seems=20 to be under but it still seems forced. Surely they could have = introduced her=20 in a more realistic manner.

2) Max and Liz: Ah, this is = another reason=20 that I absolutely love this show. Though I'm not dating an = alien(though some=20 of my ex-boyfriends have me wondering whether they're from Planet = A-hole)I can=20 totally relate to thinking that you know someone implicitly only to = realize=20 that that may never really be possible. I think we all can relate. = Needless to=20 say, I feel for Liz in a big way. The shoe dropped, the "s" hit the = fan and=20 she never even saw it coming.

Surprisingly, I also = really felt for=20 Max at times tonight too. That kiss that he planted on Liz during the = opening=20 scene at the Crashdown was so desperate. It was like by kissing her, = he would=20 somehow cleanse himself of all of the impure thoughts he was having = about=20 Tess. My question is, how do you fight yourself? How do you fight how = you=20 feel? It's not easy for humans and it certainly is going to be damn = near=20 impossible when you throw in alien history, the search for your past = and=20 yourself and a possible forgotten or unknown connection to someone, in = this=20 case a beautiful young girl.

That rain kiss between Tess and Max with Liz = looking on was=20 nothing short of brutal. And to be honest, it was the first time that = I really=20 didn't like Max. It's funny, on the surface, the problems that Liz and = Max=20 seem to be having are so banal but underneath they are steeped in=20 complication. If you didn't know them, you would think it was just = another=20 case of a straying boyfriend. Funny.

3) Max and Michael: This = relationship=20 really is slowly deteriorating, isn't it? It seems that each week, = something=20 happens to tear them further and further apart. I thought it was = terribly sad=20 when Michael emphasized that he "USED to admire Max" It's like when = you're a=20 kid and you idolize your parents and you think they're the smartest, = bravest=20 people in the world. Then you grow up and you realize they're just = human.=20 That's what I kind of feel is happening to Michael and Max. Michael is = growing=20 more independent and making decisions, good and bad, on his own = without=20 informing Max. We have to hope that the growing pains don't tear them = up to a=20 point where the damage is irreparable.

4) Maria and Liz : Though I'm not = the=20 biggest Michael and Maria 'shipper, I do love these characters = individually. I=20 do have to say that Maria RULES!! I loved how she did the best friend = thing by=20 warning Liz about Tess and how shady she appears to be. I also really = loved=20 how she comforted a crying Liz by declaring emphatically that Max was = a jerk!=20 Amen sister! Maria's the kind of person you want to have on your side. = She's=20 the real deal. A friend to the end. It's always cool when someone like = Maria=20 "has got your back." Great portrayal of their friendship tonight. The = only=20 thing that would have made it even better would to have included Alex = in the=20 mix. He's known them forever and it would have been nice to see the = three=20 aliens bond like we so often see their alien counterparts = do.

5) Michael and Liz: What an = amazing=20 surprise to see Michael defend Liz. He had this really protective = thing going=20 on with her and I for one LOVED it. I loved how he lit into Max about=20 betraying Liz and how Michael was the first to want to rescue Liz from = Tess=20 and her dad. Michael really stepped up to the plate tonight and was a = man.=20 Nice growth of characterization!

6) Liz: Again, I am completely = biased but I=20 thought Shiri was fantastic tonight. She broke my heart with just a = look as=20 she stood by the Crashdown doors and watched the man that she loves, = kiss=20 another girl. She was also just incredibly moving when she ignored Max = and=20 then confronted him by the lockers in the backroom of the restaurant. = I could=20 literally feel her pain. Liz has been so good about everything so far = and it=20 was great to just see her breakdown and feel. Just completely feel = with her=20 heart only. Shiri was just amazing. Were you guys feeling her too?=20

7) Max: I think Max is trying to = battle=20 Angel for most tortured soul :) . Jason always astounds me with the = depth that=20 he brings to his character but tonight he was just so "on". He hated = himself=20 for what he was feeling. He hated himself for what he was doing to Liz = and yet=20 he couldn't deny that he was intrigued by Tess. I thought it was very = telling=20 that he said to Liz that it was "more than just attraction", implying = that=20 there is an attraction there to Tess. Though I screamed "what an ass" = a few=20 times to the screen when he was on, I did sympathize with him. He is = as=20 confused as everyone else is by what's happening and it's fascinating = to watch=20 this completely controlled person, become undone. Jason rocks=20 again.

8)Valenti and the Gang: I = personally am=20 loving the Valenti as ally thing. He still weirded me out a bit but I = think he=20 is genuinely scared for Max, Isabel and Michael. I'm still a little = shaken by=20 him speaking to Max so frankly about things that have been hidden for = so long=20 but I guess he's trying to get Max to admit who he is. Returning the = orb was a=20 great way to try and win the trust of the aliens and I can't wait to = see how=20 that pans out.Gotta love Valenti and gotta love William. He=20 rules!

9) Destiny, fate and where does love fit=20 in?: I think it was Mala on the boards who made this great=20 distinction between fate and destiny.(Mala, If you're reading this, = please=20 elaborate) For me, destiny implies a pre-determined plan while fate is = more=20 accidental or coincidental. In many ways, I think at least, destiny = can be=20 changed by fate. I think fate can sneak up on us and change the course = of=20 things in a heartbeat. That destiny is only pre-determined to the = extent that=20 it is what is "supposed" to happen as opposed to "fate" which might = not have=20 been planned but can open the pathway to a new destiny. In this case, = when Max=20 said that it was "fate" that brought him and Liz together, I really = started=20 thinking about the whole destiny, fate debate and where love fits into = all of=20 this. Are Liz and Max fated to be together? They love each other = that's easy=20 to see but do they belong together in the grander scheme of things. = I'm sure=20 Max was destined to be with another alien(whether that proves to be = Tess in=20 the future is another story) but was it fate that brought him to Liz? = Since=20 the moment he saw her in the 3rd grade, he loved her. Was that fate? = Was that=20 destiny? And can love change one or both of those things? I'm not = really sure=20 but I would love to hear what you guys think?

Other things I = noticed:

A) What was the deal with Michael pulling Max and = Isabel=20 aside to tell them that Tess's house was empty. I can't believe he = reverted=20 back to the 3 and 3 formation.

B) Line of the night: "Oooh, I'm as flat as I = thought I=20 was"-Maria. She cracks me up!!

C) Second line of the night: "Everything I see = with me eyes=20 tells me he's cheating on me but everything in my heart tells me he's=20 not"-Liz. That is love.

D) And speaking of love, how great was it to hear = Liz=20 declare her love for Max. Sure he wasn' there to hear it but as a = dreamgirl, I=20 was so happy!!! :D :D :D
E) HALLELUJAH: I couldn't believe that = Kyle was=20 finally on the screen, albeit briefly. Did any of you look around for = the four=20 horsemen and other signs of the apocalypse? LOL :) It was good to see = him=20 back. I also thought it was our lucky night because Kyle and Alex were = on in=20 the same episode. I guess the rumors about the budgetary constrictions = of=20 having both of them on together were erroneous LOL! :)

F) Is it me or does the Pod Squad really need to = take some=20 lessons from the Scooby Gang? Could they have been more obvious = standing=20 outside of Tess's house? I was cracking up. I was waiting for Michael = or Alex=20 to hold up a sign that said, "We're out here watching you" :)
G) Is = it me=20 or is Tess's father the creepiest dude on the planet? What's the deal = with=20 that?

H) Isabel's head on Alex, Maria on Michael's = chest...too=20 sweet.

Shallow post of the week:
I am = so loving=20 Maria's new haircut. It looks great on Majandra! The guys looked = really hot,=20 especially Jason in that t-shirt(look at those arms!!!) and the shirt = he wore=20 during the first kiss with Liz at the Crashdown. Umm, it kills me to = say it=20 but that Tess and Max lab table scene was hot. Jason is so the man! Oh = and how=20 cute were the pics of Jason in the box at Tess's house? I thought for = sure it=20 was a dreamgirl who took them! LOL :)

Again, another just incredible episode. I know = this one was=20 long but it was so rich in detail. I really can't wait to see how this = whole=20 Tess storyline plays out, how and if the relationships(all of them) = will=20 survive and what role Valenti and Nasedo will play.This show just = keeps=20 getting better and better. Let's hope our efforts to keep it alive = weren't in=20 vain and that the WB opens their eyes to what an amazing show it has!=20

Take care all. Gina = :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
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Hey Guys. Sorry to bombard you with = more e-mail!=20 Just wanted to say that my favorite line of the week should have read: = "I'm=20 not as flat as I thought I was" not the reverse. Also, on a = shallow=20 note, how hot is a dripping wet Jason? Yummy! Gina :)

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, = I'll be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
that says all that I know is the blue=20 sky..." Patty Griffin
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------=_NextPart_000_054D_01BFA8CB.F434ED40-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Tess question Date: 18 Apr 2000 00:20:30 -0400 yea..That would be cool..so we could have four human-alien relationships to follwo..LOL Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of JOYCE DATES Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:12 PM i think that tess should stay on the roswell spice up the show you know.just as long as she doesn't come between max ad liz.just so you know , i'm a big max and liz fan.i think maybe they should have her fall for kyle or something. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief adendum to my thoughts and observations Date: 18 Apr 2000 00:25:43 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA8CC.A24467D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LOL..very hot..Roswell guys are very hot when they are wet..remember brendan in ID...maybe we will get to see Colin wet too...wait we did in TAlk magazine..ahh..my life is complete! My fave quote would have to be: Maria: "Ive got your back" to Liz...I love their friendship! Mel -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 12:21 AM To: RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief adendum to my thoughts and observations Hey Guys. Sorry to bombard you with more e-mail! Just wanted to say that my favorite line of the week should have read: "I'm not as flat as I thought I was" not the reverse. Also, on a shallow note, how hot is a dripping wet Jason? Yummy! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...These things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely compelled. Under moonlight I stood wild and naked. Felt no shame just my spirit awakened..." Neil Finn "...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll be sun kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way back home that says all that I know is the blue sky..." Patty Griffin ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA8CC.A24467D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LOL..very hot..Roswell guys are very hot when = they are=20 wet..remember brendan in ID...maybe we will get to see Colin wet = too...wait we=20 did in TAlk magazine..ahh..my life is complete!

My=20 fave quote would have to be: Maria: "Ive got your back" to Liz...I love = their=20 friendship!

Mel

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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 12:21 = AM
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Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief = adendum=20 to my thoughts and observations

Hey Guys. Sorry to bombard you = with more=20 e-mail! Just wanted to say that my favorite line of the week should = have read:=20 "I'm not as flat as I thought I was" not the reverse. Also, on a = shallow=20 note, how hot is a dripping wet Jason? Yummy! Gina :)

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"...These=20 things I should keep to myself, but I feel somehow strangely = compelled. Under=20 moonlight I stood wild
      and naked. = Felt no=20 shame just my spirit awakened..."   Neil Finn

"...I'll fly over a rainbow, I'll = be sun=20 kissed. I'll sail around the planet Venus and send a long letter way = back=20 home
     that says all that I know is the blue = sky..."    Patty Griffin
  =20

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA8CC.A24467D0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Animal & Liz lovers...! Date: 18 Apr 2000 08:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Hey, the new season of Emergency Vets starts tonight at 10:00pm. Liz will be in the season premier, with a pet snake or something. I wonder if they will treat her pet any different than they treat the pets of the non-television personality owners. jtv FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: Re: [roswell] Animal & Liz lovers...! Date: 18 Apr 2000 11:30:48 -0400 Can you tell me what channel this will be on and will it be on 10:00pm EST Will it be on Discovery channel .. Just asking... Casandra ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:13 AM > Hey, the new season of Emergency Vets starts tonight at 10:00pm. Liz will be > in the season premier, with a pet snake or something. > I wonder if they will treat her pet any different than they treat the pets > of the non-television personality owners. > > jtv > > ----------------------------------------------- > FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com > Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Animal & Liz lovers...! Date: 18 Apr 2000 11:26:31 EDT I'm not exactly sure about what time it comes on, but I just finished reading the article about it in Teen Magazine and it won't be on the Discovery channel. It will be airing on Animal Planet, a channel my cable company is yet to offer. :( Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Animal & Liz lovers...! Date: 18 Apr 2000 12:50:28 -0400 Yippee...finally an upside to my college cable plan..I get animal planet here at school and I will be taping it! Melis -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of FairyRaid@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:27 AM I'm not exactly sure about what time it comes on, but I just finished reading the article about it in Teen Magazine and it won't be on the Discovery channel. It will be airing on Animal Planet, a channel my cable company is yet to offer. :( Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debhanza@aol.com Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Videota Date: 18 Apr 2000 14:06:58 EDT I've never written anything here before, but I thought I'd add a few thoughts on Tess. ~At first I was suspecting Tess and her dad were undercover FBI agents. All the questions her dad asked Liz about Max at dinner were too suspicious. Also the box of photos of Max? Valenti with the camera - could he have taken all those pictures in the box, and not actually be on their side even though he seems to be? (I'd really like to think of him as an ally though) ~Since we know Tess is an alien, could she be Nasedo in a different form playing with Max's mind? ~Maybe Tess and her dad are both aliens, but being so close to the military would be dangerous... ~Is Tess an alien who was found out by the gvmt, and being used by the FBI to try to get the rest? Just some thoughts... That was a great episode, I can't wait till Monday! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: [roswell] Found out something... Date: 18 Apr 2000 20:27:31 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BFA974.85CBF520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone.. I just found out something really cool.. Near the end = of the season of Roswell Howie D. From the Backstreet Boys is going to = be on the show.. He will be another alien... I am not sure if he will = play Nasado in shape shifter form.. But he is said to be on the show.. = Just wanted to pass it along.. Have a great night... Casandra ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BFA974.85CBF520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone..=20 I just found out something really cool.. Near the end of the season of=20 Roswell Howie D. From the Backstreet Boys is going to be on = the=20 show.. He will be another alien... I am not sure if he will play Nasado = in shape=20 shifter form.. But he is said to be on the show.. Just wanted to pass it = along..=20 Have a great night...

Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BFA974.85CBF520-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about "Tess, Lies and Date: 18 Apr 2000 17:32:01 PDT hey all, i am in total agreement with kaycomp on last nights ep. it WAS brilliant, on the edge of my seat and such twist and turns that still has me talking and debating about it. i esp like the scene where isabel laid her head on alex's shoulder, that was so out of character for her. and the line between max and liz "do you see me as the one you should be with , forever" was like soooo wonderful. valenti realizing that he had been duped. in my local sunday paper, the entertainment section said that Roswell was on the maybe to be cancelled list. gawd, with such great eppies being done since the beginning... and certainly the last two eps shown on monday, how could they (the networks) even thing about canceling this show?? as i write this , i am re-watching last nights ep, and i will watch it so many more times. kellygirl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 18 Apr 2000 20:57:36 -0500 Well, this certainly is an easy episode to go on and on about, but I'm only going to mention a couple of things here (and not bore you too much. ;) I wasn't expecting yet another suspenseful episode, as most of this season has been largely building up the characters and the story. It certainly is a divorce from the rest of the tempo of the season, and it looks as though next weeks episode will continue to be on the suspenseful side. I have one kvetch about the last two episodes: Max striking Michael, and the continuing physicality between the two in TL&V. I agree with Michael about not knowing who he was anymore. When Mike was with Hank, Maxwell (Maximillian?) was the closest of brothers anyone could have, offering shelter from the abusive situation Michael was in. Max hitting Michael only helped to reinforce his confusion and hinder his emotional development/healing, and it looks like the situation is going to get worse before it gets better. Okay, enough of that for a second. In watching some of the flash scenes in slow-mo, it appears that Tess may have in fact been a part of the 'Pod Squad' (as KayComp calls them ;-) from the beginning. If so, apparently she got separated somehow, or perhaps hatched at some other locale. But I do not believe that she is Nasedo. My *guess* is that Mr. Harding is also an alien -- perhaps even in Roswell looking for the rest of the Pod Squad, and is working for the military to help avoid suspicion, perhaps so to be on the up-and-up and feed the military misinformation about where the rest of the Pod Squad is. If I'm wrong, the only other logical assumption I can think of at the moment, is that they're being controlled by the military and have been planted to hunt down our gang. But I think this is what we're meant to believe... and this show has given us quite a few twists recently. Okay, enough of speculation now. As someone else mentioned, the gang WAS pretty obvious standing up in front of Tess' window. And that neighborhood and palm trees don't scream 'Roswell' -- more like So Cal. ;-) Anyway, what was the song played when Max was drawn to Tess in the classroom (right before he practically did her on the table)? I'm sure someone out there will know. :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:15:01 -0400 Hey guys..I am watching and taping Shiri on Emergency Vets and she is really tiny...so am I so thats not an insult. She also seems scared of the animals but it is really neat to see her outside of "Liz" and as herself. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Stone Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:58 PM Well, this certainly is an easy episode to go on and on about, but I'm only going to mention a couple of things here (and not bore you too much. ;) I wasn't expecting yet another suspenseful episode, as most of this season has been largely building up the characters and the story. It certainly is a divorce from the rest of the tempo of the season, and it looks as though next weeks episode will continue to be on the suspenseful side. I have one kvetch about the last two episodes: Max striking Michael, and the continuing physicality between the two in TL&V. I agree with Michael about not knowing who he was anymore. When Mike was with Hank, Maxwell (Maximillian?) was the closest of brothers anyone could have, offering shelter from the abusive situation Michael was in. Max hitting Michael only helped to reinforce his confusion and hinder his emotional development/healing, and it looks like the situation is going to get worse before it gets better. Okay, enough of that for a second. In watching some of the flash scenes in slow-mo, it appears that Tess may have in fact been a part of the 'Pod Squad' (as KayComp calls them ;-) from the beginning. If so, apparently she got separated somehow, or perhaps hatched at some other locale. But I do not believe that she is Nasedo. My *guess* is that Mr. Harding is also an alien -- perhaps even in Roswell looking for the rest of the Pod Squad, and is working for the military to help avoid suspicion, perhaps so to be on the up-and-up and feed the military misinformation about where the rest of the Pod Squad is. If I'm wrong, the only other logical assumption I can think of at the moment, is that they're being controlled by the military and have been planted to hunt down our gang. But I think this is what we're meant to believe... and this show has given us quite a few twists recently. Okay, enough of speculation now. As someone else mentioned, the gang WAS pretty obvious standing up in front of Tess' window. And that neighborhood and palm trees don't scream 'Roswell' -- more like So Cal. ;-) Anyway, what was the song played when Max was drawn to Tess in the classroom (right before he practically did her on the table)? I'm sure someone out there will know. :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: [roswell] my comments Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:26:14 EDT Well I really like Mondays episode but i was so disappointed. 1) The disrruptive Tess has sort of ruined the relationship b/w Max and Liz. I was mad b/c not 2 sound sappy but they are soo perfect for each other. 2) I guess the producer had to find some new plot and created a mystery of having "faith" 3) i believe it was a week ago, i got an email from i think Gina with a perfect review about what happens in this episode and for the rest of the season (thanx). TESS IS THE 4TH ALIEN. bY THE END OF THE SEASON , MICHAEL WILL FIND THE NAESAIDO <--- SORRY 4 BAD SPELLING, BUT HE BARELY TELL THE REST OF THE "TEAM" WELL I REALLLLLLLLLY DON'T LIKE tESS. tHANX GUYS FOR THE GREAT REVIEWS! -kALINA pS. TELL MW WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT TESS ps2 : EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A BUG FAN OF ALEX I'M HAPPY HE WAS ABLE TO USE HIS SKILLS IN THE EPISODE TO HELP OUT Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:26:06 EDT tHANX cASSANDRA (GREAT NEWS ABOUT THE BSB ALIEN ACTION) THANX -kALINA Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] my comments Date: 18 Apr 2000 23:22:09 -0400 Aww...How can you not love Alex? Its ok though. I have mixed feeling about Tess, because since we know she is an alien, I kinda feel bad for her since we know what M,M, & I go thru, we can only imagine what it has been like for her to be alone in the world with just "Ed" (Nasedo). Though I am a HUGE M&L fan, I do feel for Tess. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Peplik@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 10:26 PM Well I really like Mondays episode but i was so disappointed. 1) The disrruptive Tess has sort of ruined the relationship b/w Max and Liz. I was mad b/c not 2 sound sappy but they are soo perfect for each other. 2) I guess the producer had to find some new plot and created a mystery of having "faith" 3) i believe it was a week ago, i got an email from i think Gina with a perfect review about what happens in this episode and for the rest of the season (thanx). TESS IS THE 4TH ALIEN. bY THE END OF THE SEASON , MICHAEL WILL FIND THE NAESAIDO <--- SORRY 4 BAD SPELLING, BUT HE BARELY TELL THE REST OF THE "TEAM" WELL I REALLLLLLLLLY DON'T LIKE tESS. tHANX GUYS FOR THE GREAT REVIEWS! -kALINA pS. TELL MW WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT TESS ps2 : EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A BUG FAN OF ALEX I'M HAPPY HE WAS ABLE TO USE HIS SKILLS IN THE EPISODE TO HELP OUT Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 01:17:04 EDT There's a reason she seems so afraid of the animals... I was reading the background article in Teen Magazine (I know, I'm embarrassed, but I had to get it b/c she was on the cover) and she wrote that the whole reason behind her spending a day as a vet was to conquer her fear of animals. It's a great article written by her in journal form and I'd reccommend it to all of you. :) FehrFan Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELLEROFTALESDT@webtv.net (JOYCE DATES) Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief adendum to my thoughts and Date: 19 Apr 2000 02:12:53 -0500 (CDT) i think my favorite quote is when liz says,"everything i see with my eyes tell me he's cheating but everything i feel with my heart says he isn't."i think i got most of that quote right. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief adendum to my thoughts and Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:18:36 EDT my fav quote is"you`re a geniose!" this one maria said..i use it all the time.The quote you said was beautiful... Sherryn Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:19:42 EDT i know i bought the mag to.I already know that.Thanxs any way for telling me though :) Sherryn Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] my comments Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:22:17 EDT that`s true.WE both are m&L fans bot it`s really sensitive of you to fell for Tess.I mean if you tell people that they would be cussing and saying how stupid that is but I understand. Sherryn Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:27:27 -0400 Yea...I read that as well...I buy all the mags with Roswell in them..but I am still 19 so I on't feel too bad. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of FairyRaid@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:17 AM There's a reason she seems so afraid of the animals... I was reading the background article in Teen Magazine (I know, I'm embarrassed, but I had to get it b/c she was on the cover) and she wrote that the whole reason behind her spending a day as a vet was to conquer her fear of animals. It's a great article written by her in journal form and I'd reccommend it to all of you. :) FehrFan Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS: Thoughts and Observations about Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:22:55 EDT i am glad i helped, Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS: a brief adendum to my thoughts andobservations Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:29:45 -0400 I Loved that too..But I also liked when Isabel said she wasn't sure what she thought about Alex..as a friend or a love interest (can't think of excact line)..and Tess when she said..Max, You're on FIRE!..LOL Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of JOYCE DATES Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:13 AM andobservations i think my favorite quote is when liz says,"everything i see with my eyes tell me he's cheating but everything i feel with my heart says he isn't."i think i got most of that quote right. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] my comments Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:25:01 EDT i still don`t like tess she and her father is so mean.Alex is cute but i am a majore max fan.don`t tell any one this but i really liked this episdode.My pals did`nt like it but i liked it.It has every thing that i wished in a episde Sherryn~~~~~ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] my comments Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:33:25 -0400 Yea Tabasco...It was very good...I think the show gets better every week and I happen to enjoy the more balanced mix of romance and sci-fi! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tobasco26@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:25 AM i still don`t like tess she and her father is so mean.Alex is cute but i am a majore max fan.don`t tell any one this but i really liked this episdode.My pals did`nt like it but i liked it.It has every thing that i wished in a episde Sherryn~~~~~ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yoder, Denise" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 19 Apr 2000 09:46:36 -0500 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAA0E.103FC242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mike Stone said... Snippet... I have one kvetch about the last two episodes: Max striking Michael, and the continuing physicality between the two in TL&V. I agree with Michael about not knowing who he was anymore. When Mike was with Hank, Maxwell (Maximillian?) was the closest of brothers anyone could have, offering shelter from the abusive situation Michael was in. Max hitting Michael only helped to reinforce his confusion and hinder his emotional development/healing, and it looks like the situation is going to get worse before it gets better. Good point...I wish he would have curled up his fist as he was going to strike him, then think better of it. But I think they are trying to show how "out of control" Max is. A typical high school male thing to do...hit something.... I agree with you, most interesting choice they made for him to lash out physically at Michael. That is why I love Michael's comments about not looking up to him any more...better than a fist and hurts much more. Anyway, what was the song played when Max was drawn to Tess in the classroom (right before he practically did her on the table)? I'm sure someone out there will know. :) 6 Underground by the Sneaker Pimps... Funny thing I noticed...a Tshirt that Michael had on in his apartment when they discover the camera...is a defunct harness race track (horses)...The Quad City Downs...kind of strange it being 10 miles from my house (in northwestern Illinois)...well my sister and I got a kick out of it...how did they get that shirt? ...q ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAA0E.103FC242 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [roswell] 4/17/00

Mike Stone said...
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I have one kvetch about the last two = episodes: Max striking Michael, and the
continuing physicality between the = two in TL&V. I agree with Michael about
not knowing who he was anymore. When = Mike was with Hank, Maxwell
(Maximillian?) was the closest of = brothers anyone could have, offering
shelter from the abusive situation = Michael was in. Max hitting Michael only
helped to reinforce his confusion and = hinder his emotional
development/healing, and it looks = like the situation is going to get worse
before it gets better.

Good point...I wish he would have = curled up his fist as he was going to strike him, then think better of = it. But I think they are trying to show how "out of control" Max = is. A typical high = school male = thing to do...hit = something.... I agree = with you, most = interesting choice they made for him to lash out physically at = Michael. That is why = I love Michael's comments about not looking up to him any = more...better than a fist = and hurts much more.

Anyway, what was the song played when = Max was drawn to Tess in the classroom
(right before he practically did her = on the table)? I'm sure someone out
there will know. :)

6 Underground by the Sneaker = Pimps...

Funny thing I noticed...a Tshirt = that Michael had on in his apartment when they discover the = camera...is a = defunct harness race = track = (horses)...The Quad City = Downs...kind of strange it being 10 miles from my house = (in northwestern Illinois)...well my sister and I got a kick out of it...how did = they get that shirt?

...q

------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAA0E.103FC242-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 19 Apr 2000 10:49:37 EDT that was a good episdeo but it had bad ratings it had a 3.3 this is horribvle.we must improve the ratings... sherryn Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHipS AhOY Subject: [roswell] hello... Date: 19 Apr 2000 09:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi.. I just subbed on to this list after having discovered Roswell this evening....sort of funny...:) I got hooked like, immediately.:) I'm in Singapore, where they just showed "The Toy House" I think....i was frantically looking through the episode guides to find out how much I have missed.... Are there any other Singaporeans on this list? I would lvoe to watch earlier episodes of Roswell...coz while watching it took me a while to figure out that Michael, Max and isabel were aliens...:) actually I admit all I could think about at first was "the guy who plays Michael is gorgeous!"...:) Well, looking forward to learning more about this show...it looks fantastic!:) Chip ===== "Remember that the toes you step on today may be attached to the legs holding up the ass you have to kiss tomorrow." HiTOrI BoCHi Ni nARu YuUKI wO! CoMe tO My PaGE: http://www.angelfire.com/ct/chiptaku __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] hello... Date: 19 Apr 2000 12:24:45 EDT you`re from singapore?that`s iis so cool.I am from teh U.S.A.Have you heard about the tobasco sauce campaing. sherryn Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LaneyGuerin@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 12:56:30 EDT well, as for her being tiny..she's only 5'2"...and for the fear...in the Teen article she wrote, she explains that that day was to help her get over some fears...when she was 6, a neighbor's dog bit her over the left eye (that's why she has the scar) and she's had a bit of a fear ever since -Kris Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 12:24:56 -0500 > ... she wrote that the whole reason behind > her spending a day as a vet was to conquer > her fear of animals. That's interesting. Was there a particular reason for her fear of animals? I've always felt that there's something wrong with people who don't like animals... Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] my comments Date: 19 Apr 2000 13:51:48 EDT Sherrin, i'm a big Max fan also Glad you all like the episode b/c i did -Kalina Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] hello... Date: 19 Apr 2000 14:11:58 -0400 welcome to the list Chip..Yes Roswell is fantastic! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of CHipS AhOY Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:21 PM Hi.. I just subbed on to this list after having discovered Roswell this evening....sort of funny...:) I got hooked like, immediately.:) I'm in Singapore, where they just showed "The Toy House" I think....i was frantically looking through the episode guides to find out how much I have missed.... Are there any other Singaporeans on this list? I would lvoe to watch earlier episodes of Roswell...coz while watching it took me a while to figure out that Michael, Max and isabel were aliens...:) actually I admit all I could think about at first was "the guy who plays Michael is gorgeous!"...:) Well, looking forward to learning more about this show...it looks fantastic!:) Chip ===== "Remember that the toes you step on today may be attached to the legs holding up the ass you have to kiss tomorrow." HiTOrI BoCHi Ni nARu YuUKI wO! CoMe tO My PaGE: http://www.angelfire.com/ct/chiptaku __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Shiri on animale planet Date: 19 Apr 2000 18:30:35 -0500 Oooh.. I always look at that scar and wonder where it came from. I felt bad for the 8 year old boy that had to be told his hamsters was dead. It's not a job I would want! (veterinarian). > -----Original Message----- > well, as for her being tiny..she's only 5'2"...and for the > fear...in the Teen article she wrote, she explains that > that day was to help her get over some fears...when > she was 6, a neighbor's dog bit her over the left > eye (that's why she has the scar) and she's had a > bit of a fear ever since Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noodles2913@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 19 Apr 2000 19:35:57 EDT In a message dated 4/19/00 10:50:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tobasco26@aol.com writes: <> I suspect that next week wil have good ratings so don't get too down. The reason for this is that N'Sync's Lance Bass is going to be on 7th Heaven. You know how popular that group is so you can be sure that millions of people will be tuned into the show. Hopefully, most of them will keep the channel on after the show an watch Roswell. Anything to save our show! Karie Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 19 Apr 2000 19:48:59 EDT you are sooooo right Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 19 Apr 2000 19:07:28 PDT argh! How could the ratings be that low? By now, everyone should know that Roswell is on Monday night. What other shows is Roswell up againest? Like I wrote before, Roswell was an excellent show on Wednesdays.. They moved it to Mondays, I guess to get a better share of audience.... or to kill the show off. When they moved it to Mondays, the show seems to have changed in it pace... I liked the pace before, but the last two eppies on Monday, has been so wonderful! kellygirl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: [roswell] Thania St. John Date: 19 Apr 2000 21:19:44 -0500 By the way, did anyone else notice that "Thania St. John" was the news reporter on T.V. talking about the mental hospital that got burned down? She is also the co-executive producer and writer (i.e., she wrote 'The Balance.') I wonder if it was actually her, or just an actress playing her? :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klm1107@aol.com Subject: Ratings [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 20 Apr 2000 00:36:20 EDT Hi, I think the ratings were a bit low because Roswell wasn't shown in a few places. It was preempted by some sporting events. I'm pretty sure I read that last Monday's episode is going to be shown on Saturday for those who missed it. So actually, those ratings are good considering. Hopefully, the WB knows about this and take it into account. Lori Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Thania St. John Date: 20 Apr 2000 00:42:14 EDT I'm so glad you brought this up! I kept wondering why that name sounded so familiar. Now you've got me wondering if it was a cameo appearance or not too. I guess we'll have to do some investigating. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTV Subject: [roswell] Shiri-Animal Planet...! Date: 20 Apr 2000 02:00:15 -0400 (EDT) I think the little guy loss a "gecko". This was one of the saddest episodes. The woman loss her golden retriever too. Shiri was doing some sort of journal, which was fitting since her character keeps one on the show. I wonder if Shiri's practice of keeping a journal had any influence on her character keeping one. I've been keeping one since I was five years old, though now I keep it on my laptop. ------Original Message------ Sent: April 19, 2000 11:30:35 PM GMT Oooh.. I always look at that scar and wonder where it came from. I felt bad for the 8 year old boy that had to be told his hamsters was dead. It's not a job I would want! (veterinarian). FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Shiri-Animal Planet...! Date: 20 Apr 2000 11:32:18 EDT In a message dated 04/19/2000 11:00:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cptroc@email.com writes: << Shiri was doing some sort of journal, which was fitting since her character keeps one on the show. I wonder if Shiri's practice of keeping a journal had any influence on her character keeping one. >> Actually, she was keeping the journal for an article in this month's issue of Teen magazine in which she tracks her day as a vet. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 20 Apr 2000 13:06:33 -0400 The only problem with that is the fact that 78th Heaven has been airing reruns for next week and last week...they new new eps to get more people to hang on for Roswell...7th heaven fans may not be watching the repeats! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Noodles2913@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:36 PM In a message dated 4/19/00 10:50:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tobasco26@aol.com writes: <> I suspect that next week wil have good ratings so don't get too down. The reason for this is that N'Sync's Lance Bass is going to be on 7th Heaven. You know how popular that group is so you can be sure that millions of people will be tuned into the show. Hopefully, most of them will keep the channel on after the show an watch Roswell. Anything to save our show! Karie Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Thania St. John Date: 20 Apr 2000 13:06:56 -0400 I noticed too! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Stone Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:20 PM By the way, did anyone else notice that "Thania St. John" was the news reporter on T.V. talking about the mental hospital that got burned down? She is also the co-executive producer and writer (i.e., she wrote 'The Balance.') I wonder if it was actually her, or just an actress playing her? :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 21 Apr 2000 20:36:44 EDT I think that Because the show is moved to Mondays, people watch it less b/c maybe they're tired. I mean i don't want to sound bad but Monday isn't the best day for people because they're tired from shool/work and the beggining of the week. -Kalina Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 21 Apr 2000 19:52:10 -0500 > I think that Because the show is moved to Mondays, people watch > it less b/c maybe they're tired. I mean i don't want to sound > bad but Monday isn't the best day for people because they're > tired from shool/work and the beggining of the week. That's a good point, since it seems that Thursday night shows tend to rate the highest. On the other hand, when Monday nights have particular good shows, I look forward to Mondays. I found a new habit of my own to watch taped episodes on Fridays since nothing else is on like tonight. What, do they think everyone is out on dates?? :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 21 Apr 2000 20:59:05 EDT Good habit Mikestone65 Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] 4/17/00 Date: 21 Apr 2000 21:37:02 -0400 That is a good point about Mondays though I personally enjoy a relaxing evening watching tv on monday since its usually the roughest day of the week for me..as far as school is concerned. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Stone Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 8:52 PM > I think that Because the show is moved to Mondays, people watch > it less b/c maybe they're tired. I mean i don't want to sound > bad but Monday isn't the best day for people because they're > tired from shool/work and the beggining of the week. That's a good point, since it seems that Thursday night shows tend to rate the highest. On the other hand, when Monday nights have particular good shows, I look forward to Mondays. I found a new habit of my own to watch taped episodes on Fridays since nothing else is on like tonight. What, do they think everyone is out on dates?? :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: [roswell] (roswell) question Date: 21 Apr 2000 21:43:22 EDT Hey guys! My printer didnt work for about 2 weeks so i coulnd't print out the Max levi's Picture. Do you guys know if there is another website ??? I already have he picture from http://home.att.net/~finnamos/JASONLEVIS.JPG PLEASE I NEED THEM BADLY!!! WRITE BACK SOON -KALINA Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: [roswell] Date: 22 Apr 2000 20:53:59 EDT Hey Guys I want to wish everyone a HAPPY EASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XOXO -KALINA Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Date: 23 Apr 2000 13:31:58 -0500 > Hey Guys > I want to wish everyone a > HAPPY EASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. I think some countries will be celebrating it on the 30th, so if you're one of them, happpy easter next week. :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Date: 23 Apr 2000 18:44:04 -0400 Hap Easter from me too! And if you do not celebrate..Hop you had a pleasant Sunday anyhow! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mike Stone Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 2:32 PM > Hey Guys > I want to wish everyone a > HAPPY EASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. I think some countries will be celebrating it on the 30th, so if you're one of them, happpy easter next week. :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: [roswell] Cool new internet service! Date: 23 Apr 2000 18:41:47 -0700 Dear roswell@lists.xmission.com: Hello, I'm inviting you to join a very cool service available on the Internet called Free Disk Space. You can store MP3’s, photos, documents, gifs, jpegs... files of any type with 25 megabytes of 100% FREE disk space. You can access your personal files from any computer, anywhere in the world 24 hours a day. These folders can be shared with friends so that you can exchange files easily without cumbersome floppies, Zip disks or emails! If you signup for the service, not only will you find your account very useful, but I'll be able to get a free 5 megabytes of disk space. By referring friends you can get an unlimited amount of disk space! To signup, open this link in your browser window: http://www.freediskspace.com/Signup.asp?ReferenceCode=2162943884 Sincerely, HOLLY MARSH Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] Cool new internet service! Date: 24 Apr 2000 11:58:32 -0500 Don't worry, this person has been uns*bscribed. The list is only for Roswell -related topics, not for advertisements. Thanks. > Hello, I'm inviting you to join a very cool service available on the > Internet called Free Disk Space. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: [roswell] in thirty..... Date: 24 Apr 2000 17:28:34 PDT hello all, for me in thirty minutes Roswell will be on. so, who all is doing like i do.... taking care of business, feeding the animals, calling all those that left me a message to call them earlier, putting the "do not disturb" sign on my door, and getting the new tape and VCR *ready* to tape? the promo's for tonight's eppie, looks really good! of course, you cannot *trust* the promo's for Roswell, cuz they are always different.. ah shoot, who cares? all the eppies of Roswell are great. can't wait to hear all you guys input/spoilers/thoughts on tonight's show. enjoy! kellygirl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] in thirty..... Date: 24 Apr 2000 20:36:56 -0400 I am doing the same....cramming in a few more minutes of studying for my c++ exam tomorrow, checking email, listening to Roswell mp3s, etc... I cannot wait for tonight's episode because I gave in a read some spoliers...LOL..I know I'm bad..but there is always so much more to the epiosde than they tell. Gotta go...30 minutes here too! Mel PS I set my tape first thing this morning! -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Girl Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:29 PM hello all, for me in thirty minutes Roswell will be on. so, who all is doing like i do.... taking care of business, feeding the animals, calling all those that left me a message to call them earlier, putting the "do not disturb" sign on my door, and getting the new tape and VCR *ready* to tape? the promo's for tonight's eppie, looks really good! of course, you cannot *trust* the promo's for Roswell, cuz they are always different.. ah shoot, who cares? all the eppies of Roswell are great. can't wait to hear all you guys input/spoilers/thoughts on tonight's show. enjoy! kellygirl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] in thirty..... Date: 24 Apr 2000 20:32:44 EDT i'm sooo jealous of you! i still have another 3 and a half hours!!! arrrrrg! I should pack up and move to the east just so I can get my Roswell fix earlier! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] in thirty..... Date: 24 Apr 2000 20:41:05 -0400 LOL...yea is the one of the benefits..but you guys out west are closer to the stars!! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of FairyRaid@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:33 PM i'm sooo jealous of you! i still have another 3 and a half hours!!! arrrrrg! I should pack up and move to the east just so I can get my Roswell fix earlier! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: [roswell] Tonights episode... Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:15:46 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BFAE3A.A38FA6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you guys believe what happened tonight.. They found the 4th person = they were looking for... But I can't believe the part about Michael and = Isabel have a child and them to being a couple.. But does this mean = that Liz has to give up Max so Tess can take her place in their destiny = ? 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Can = you guys=20 believe what happened tonight.. They found the 4th person they were = looking=20 for... But I can't believe the part about Michael and Isabel have a = child and=20 them to being a couple.. But does this mean that Liz has to give = up Max so=20 Tess can take her place in their destiny ? Just=20 asking....

Casandra

------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BFAE3A.A38FA6E0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CryptykGrl@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Shiri-Animal Planet...! Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:19:33 EDT Just curious - did they show the man who wanted his dog put to sleep because it bit someone? For those of you who have no clue what I'm talking about - the vet said they couldn't put a perfectly healthy dog down for that, and the man said he would just take the dog back and shoot it, I got the impression he would not have a problem doing that. Or was that just in her journal? I read that in Teen, and I felt like crying, because I had a dog who was shot, then put to sleep, and it really hurt. Anyway, I know this is off topic but I was just wondering if it was on the show. Also - did anyone tape it? If so, any chance you could make a copy and send it to me? I'd pay for the tape and the shipping. Erin In a message dated 4/19/00 11:00:48 PM, cptroc@email.com writes: >I think the little guy loss a "gecko". This was one of the saddest episodes. >The woman loss her golden retriever too. Shiri was doing some sort of >journal, which was fitting since her character keeps one on the show. I >wonder if Shiri's practice of keeping a journal had any influence on her >character keeping one. I've been keeping one since I was five years old, >though now I keep it on my laptop. > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Shiri-Animal Planet...! Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:30:26 -0400 Hey Erin..they didn't show that patient on the episode. I thought that was so sad too....my dog died last year and I almost cried when Champagne was put to sleep. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of CryptykGrl@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:20 PM Just curious - did they show the man who wanted his dog put to sleep because it bit someone? For those of you who have no clue what I'm talking about - the vet said they couldn't put a perfectly healthy dog down for that, and the man said he would just take the dog back and shoot it, I got the impression he would not have a problem doing that. Or was that just in her journal? I read that in Teen, and I felt like crying, because I had a dog who was shot, then put to sleep, and it really hurt. Anyway, I know this is off topic but I was just wondering if it was on the show. Also - did anyone tape it? If so, any chance you could make a copy and send it to me? I'd pay for the tape and the shipping. Erin In a message dated 4/19/00 11:00:48 PM, cptroc@email.com writes: >I think the little guy loss a "gecko". This was one of the saddest episodes. >The woman loss her golden retriever too. Shiri was doing some sort of >journal, which was fitting since her character keeps one on the show. I >wonder if Shiri's practice of keeping a journal had any influence on her >character keeping one. I've been keeping one since I was five years old, >though now I keep it on my laptop. > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 24 Apr 2000 23:09:22 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0534_01BFAE42.20B3EBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving the new direction = that the show is taking. The last three episodes have been so = suspenseful and well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the = show gets more ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've = watched these last three episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi = aspects have intensified. Having said that, another good episode. I have = to admit that I found some plot lines slightly confusing, but I did like = that the story arc has been moved along and that some questions are = starting to get answered. Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) Michael and Isabel: Well, I have to admit that at first there was a = very high ick factor in my mind about this coupling. To me, Isabel and = Michael might as well be brother and sister. But then I saw them = together, both in "reality" and in the dream plane tonight, and I have = to say that there is a certain...something there. I don't know if it's = chemistry or not but there is certainly a nice rapport between the = two.There's an easiness to their togetherness that I like. Now don't get = me wrong. I'm not saying they should be a couple, but the thought is = less heinous to me now. I will now duck from the rocks thrown at me from = the Candygirls ;) I am slightly confused about their "pregnancy" dream = but that's later. 2) The notion of destiny versus fate again: I'm sorry to beat a dead = horse here but I am really loving what the writers are doing here by = pinning destiny and fate against each other. From what I gleaned from = tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That = somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of = Emilie's acting, I do like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the = inception of the show, we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are = soulmates( a thought that I still hold on to). It's fascinating that the = writers have now decided to sort of pull the rug out from under us and = challenge that completely. Yes, he's "loved" her since the 3rd grade but = are they supposed to be together? I got a lot of great responses from = you last time that fate and love can change destiny in the blink of an = eye, but I guess my question is, when does destiny become fate and vice = versa then? Who's to say that Max wasn't supposed to save Liz and then = she and Max weren't supposed to be together? Couldn't the shooting have = been destiny? Couldn't it have been in the plan?=20 3) Tess versus Liz: As an extension of the destiny/fate discussion, I = love how diametrically different Liz and Tess are feeling right now = about how things are supposed to be. According to Liz, "You are who you = choose to be. You're with who you choose to be with" while Tess feels = that Max must be with her because it was ordained in some way. It was = really interesting to see these two women, trying desperately to = rationalize what was going on inside of Max. It was really quite sad = though to see how they are both clinging to the hope that Max will = realize who his true soulmate is, while Max is like a deer caught in the = headlights. 4) Aliens vs. Humans: I thought that tonight's episode really broke down = what is inherently wrong with the Max and Michael relationship. Now more = than ever, I feel as if these two guys would never even speak to each = other had it not been for their shared alien ancestry. Max has embraced = his "human" side and is somewhat apprehensive of learning more about his = "alien" side. Michael is the complete opposite, constantly feeling alien = and alienated. Their confrontation in the kitchen, with both accusing = the other of being afraid to be who they really are was intense and = revealing. Neither one trusts the other right now. Secrets are being = kept and lies being told. There really is no middle ground for them. = It's either do it my way or no way. I look forward to seeing how they = can get back to being as close as they once were, if it is possible at = this point. 5) The relationships in Roswell:=20 A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills = me to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional = limbo and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when = Liz asked Max what it was like to kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, = she's starting to doubt Max and she's starting to doubt herself in = subtle ways. It hurts to see them this way simply because they had = finally found some semblance of normalcy. B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am putting these two couples = together because I found them both really disturbing tonight. While I'm = glad that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael finally said = the "r" word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions would = have been prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and = Alex have shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I = just wanted them to be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much = they care for their aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt = Michael and Isabel into action? I would have definetly preferred to see = this done differently. C) Max and Tess: I swear, I don't know if it's because they haven't = worked together for very long but I feel nothing when they're on the = screen together. I hated their big confrontation scene by the rock = formation. This is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I don't feel = as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they = belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow = for me.=20 6)Favorite Scene: The Crashdown Cafe scene where Liz revealed to Max = that she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when = Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded = and hurt in that moment and it seemed that for the first time, Liz was = actually regrettting getting involved with an alien.=20 7) This mysterious "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap = in logic. It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think = that she was pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have = been that the dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think = of this one yet. Would love to hear from you guys about this because it = has me completely befuddled. 8) The anti-climatic ending?: Did anyone else feel that the ending = wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could have been. I kinda felt that the = big reveal wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed to be. Though I felt = slightly bad for Tess that she was left behind by the other three = aliens, I didn't really feel anything even close to remorse. Again, this = could be because I don't feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the = group in any real emotional way. Not sure about this. Some minor thoughts:=20 A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get more screen time!! "Can't = beat a blonde" He's so funny :) B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to me that he's a = worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because the = aliens need help. C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and = Tess scenes? What's up with that? D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20 Weekly Shallow post: Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in = not only two different tight t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not = a religious person, but PRAISE JESUS :) Oh and why do they continue to = dress Tess as if she's going to a disco? I know the wardrobe people are = trying to make her the opposite of Liz but come on. Did Brendan get a = hair cut? It looked different. Cute but different. I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next week looks = INCREDIBLE. It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason to = shine. Can't wait. I can't believe we have to wait a whole week again :) = Take care all! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...And now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You = tell me that I'm crazy and=20 then smile. And now I think I'll get through the end of the = world...." Chantal Kreviazuk "...Well it's always fun and games until you realize that you don't have = the skill in keeping the gag from going too far..." 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Hey Guys,

Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving = the new=20 direction that the show is taking. The last three episodes have been so=20 suspenseful and well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the = show gets=20 more ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've watched these = last=20 three episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi aspects have = intensified.=20 Having said that, another good episode. I have to admit that I found = some plot=20 lines slightly confusing, but I did like that the story arc has been = moved along=20 and that some questions are starting to get answered. Here are some = thoughts and=20 observations:

1) Michael and Isabel: Well, I have = to admit=20 that at first there was a very high ick factor in my mind about this = coupling.=20 To me, Isabel and Michael might as well be brother and sister. But then = I saw=20 them together, both in "reality" and in the dream plane = tonight, and I=20 have to say that there is a certain...something there. I don't know if = it's=20 chemistry or not but there is certainly a nice rapport between the = two.There's=20 an easiness to their togetherness that I like. Now don't get me wrong. = I'm not=20 saying they should be a couple, but the thought is less heinous to me = now. I=20 will now duck from the rocks thrown at me from the Candygirls ;) I am = slightly=20 confused about their "pregnancy" dream but that's = later.

2) The notion of destiny versus fate = again:=20 I'm sorry to beat a dead horse here but I am really loving what the = writers are=20 doing here by pinning destiny and fate against each other. From what I = gleaned=20 from tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That = somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a = big fan of=20 Emilie's acting, I do like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the = inception=20 of the show, we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are soulmates( a = thought=20 that I still hold on to). It's fascinating that the writers have now = decided to=20 sort of pull the rug out from under us and challenge that completely. = Yes, he's=20 "loved" her since the 3rd grade but are they supposed to be = together?=20 I got a lot of great responses from you last time that fate and love can = change=20 destiny in the blink of an eye, but I guess my question is, when does = destiny=20 become fate and vice versa then? Who's to say that Max wasn't supposed = to save=20 Liz and then she and Max weren't supposed to be together? Couldn't the = shooting=20 have been destiny? Couldn't it have been in the plan?

3) Tess versus Liz: As an extension = of the=20 destiny/fate discussion, I love how diametrically different Liz and Tess = are=20 feeling right now about how things are supposed to be. According to Liz, = "You are who you choose to be. You're with who you choose to be = with"=20 while Tess feels that Max must be with her because it was ordained in = some way.=20 It was really interesting to see these two women, trying desperately to=20 rationalize what was going on inside of Max. It was really quite sad = though to=20 see how they are both clinging to the hope that Max will realize who his = true=20 soulmate is, while Max is like a deer caught in the = headlights.

4) Aliens vs. Humans: I thought = that=20 tonight's episode really broke down what is inherently wrong with the = Max and=20 Michael relationship. Now more than ever, I feel as if these two guys = would=20 never even speak to each other had it not been for their shared alien = ancestry.=20 Max has embraced his "human" side and is somewhat apprehensive = of=20 learning more about his "alien" side. Michael is the complete=20 opposite, constantly feeling alien and alienated. Their confrontation in = the=20 kitchen, with both accusing the other of being afraid to be who they = really are=20 was intense and revealing. Neither one trusts the other right now. = Secrets are=20 being kept and lies being told. There really is no middle ground for = them. It's=20 either do it my way or no way. I look forward to seeing how they can get = back to=20 being as close as they once were, if it is possible at this = point.

5) The relationships in Roswell: =
A) Max=20 and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills me to = say that,=20 it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional limbo and they = have no=20 idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when Liz asked Max what it was = like to=20 kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, she's starting to doubt Max and = she's=20 starting to doubt herself in subtle ways. It hurts to see them this way = simply=20 because they had finally found some semblance of normalcy.

B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am = putting these=20 two couples together because I found them both really disturbing = tonight. While=20 I'm glad that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael finally = said the=20 "r" word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions = would have=20 been prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and Alex = have=20 shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I just wanted = them to=20 be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much they care = for=20 their aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt Michael and = Isabel=20 into action? I would have definetly preferred to see this done=20 differently.

C) Max and Tess: I swear, I = don't know if=20 it's because they haven't worked together for very long but I feel = nothing when=20 they're on the screen together. I hated their big confrontation scene by = the=20 rock formation. This is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I don't = feel as=20 if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they belong=20 together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow for me.=20

6)Favorite Scene: The Crashdown = Cafe scene=20 where Liz revealed to Max that she was scared of Tess. I loved the = way Max=20 said, "So am I" when Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an = alien,=20 Max" . Max looked so wounded and hurt in that moment and it seemed = that for=20 the first time, Liz was actually regrettting getting involved with an = alien.=20

7) This mysterious=20 "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap = in logic.=20 It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think that she = was=20 pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have been that = the dream=20 was premonitory. I really don't know what to think of this one yet. = Would love=20 to hear from you guys about this because it has me completely=20 befuddled.

8) The anti-climatic ending?: Did = anyone else=20 feel that the ending wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could have been. I = kinda=20 felt that the big reveal wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed to be. = Though I=20 felt slightly bad for Tess that she was left behind by the other three = aliens, I=20 didn't really feel anything even close to remorse. = Again, this=20 could be because I don't feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the = group in=20 any real emotional way. Not sure about this.

Some minor thoughts:

A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get more = screen=20 time!! "Can't beat a blonde" He's so funny :)

B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to = me that=20 he's a worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because = the=20 aliens need help.

C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that = permeate the=20 Isabel and Tess scenes? What's up with that?

D) Where are the parents? What's going on here? =

Weekly Shallow = post:=20 Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in not only two different = tight=20 t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not a religious person, but = PRAISE JESUS=20 :) Oh and why do they continue to dress Tess as if she's going to a = disco? I=20 know the wardrobe people are trying to make her the opposite of Liz but = come on.=20 Did Brendan get a hair cut? It looked different. Cute but=20 different.

I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next = week looks=20 INCREDIBLE. It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason to = shine. Can't=20 wait. I can't believe we have to wait a whole week again :) Take care = all! Gina=20 :)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"...And=20 now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You tell me = that I'm=20 crazy and
then smile. And now I think I'll get = through=20 the end of the world...." Chantal=20 Kreviazuk

"...Well it's always = fun and games=20 until you realize that you don't have the skill in keeping the=20 gag
from going too=20 far..." Aimee = Mann

------=_NextPart_000_0534_01BFAE42.20B3EBC0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 24 Apr 2000 23:45:40 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFAE47.328FA910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well...let's see...I can't write too much b/c I have a big midterm at 8am YUCK! But anyway...I must agree about the Tess/Max chemistry...nothing there! I didn't like the rushing of Alex and Isabel, but I am sooo glad it happened finally. Alex is so cute...I would so go out with him. "You're beautiful you know that..." Awww...he is just too adorable! Michael and Maria scenes were few and far between but I loved when they kissed at school and you could see veryone watching in the background...and Maria looked a lil embarrassed (I liked that). Liz and Max definiely seem to be drifting a bit. Seems like Liz doesn't have as much faith as she is telling herself she has,huh? Max, though he is being "controlled" should be doing a little more to repair the damage done by his kiss....I know, I know..he was like posessed (you know what I mean), but still..I am such a dreamgirl and I can honestly say I was getting a little agravated with both Liz and Max in tonight's episode...not sure why...just wishing they were back in Sexual Healing or Crazy. Kyle was great...I wish they would show more of him...I loved how he and Liz had that little discussion in the Crashdown and how he wanted so badly to be all over Tess in the library...He is so over trying to figure out Liz! Thats great..move on Kyle. My suggestion for future seasons: After saying what I have thus far, I have to admit, if Michael and Isabel get together...which I do not want, I think Alex and Maria should get together...just my opinion. I think that is far from ever happening..b/c honestly, I would like to see Michael be with Liz before Isabel...after maybe a second season that is...just to spice it up. Fave quote as of right now (mentioned earlier): what can I say, I LOVE Alex/Colin "You're beautiful you know that..." Not just the quote, but Alex in general...LOL Now to study...gotta watch this episode again tomorrow! Mel http://colinhanks.hk.st -----Original Message----- From: owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kaycomp Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:09 PM To: RoswellBrigaders@egroups.com; WBsROSWELL@onelist.com; RoswellTV@onelist.com; Roswell-SPOILERS@onelist.com; RoswellSmut@onelist.com; RoswellontheWB@onelist.com; Roswell-L@onelist.com; roswellites@onelist.com; Roswellians@onelist.com; RoswellAfterCurfew@onelist.com; roswell@lists.xmission.com; max-n-liz-fic@onelist.com; max-and-liz@onelist.com; JasonBehr@onelist.com; jason_behr@onelist.com; All-Roswell@onelist.com; 1ALL_ROSWELL@onelist.com; 1AddictsOfRoswell@onelist.com; 123Roswell@onelist.com Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Hey Guys, Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving the new direction that the show is taking. The last three episodes have been so suspenseful and well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the show gets more ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've watched these last three episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi aspects have intensified. Having said that, another good episode. I have to admit that I found some plot lines slightly confusing, but I did like that the story arc has been moved along and that some questions are starting to get answered. Here are some thoughts and observations: 1) Michael and Isabel: Well, I have to admit that at first there was a very high ick factor in my mind about this coupling. To me, Isabel and Michael might as well be brother and sister. But then I saw them together, both in "reality" and in the dream plane tonight, and I have to say that there is a certain...something there. I don't know if it's chemistry or not but there is certainly a nice rapport between the two.There's an easiness to their togetherness that I like. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they should be a couple, but the thought is less heinous to me now. I will now duck from the rocks thrown at me from the Candygirls ;) I am slightly confused about their "pregnancy" dream but that's later. 2) The notion of destiny versus fate again: I'm sorry to beat a dead horse here but I am really loving what the writers are doing here by pinning destiny and fate against each other. From what I gleaned from tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of Emilie's acting, I do like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the inception of the show, we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are soulmates( a thought that I still hold on to). It's fascinating that the writers have now decided to sort of pull the rug out from under us and challenge that completely. Yes, he's "loved" her since the 3rd grade but are they supposed to be together? I got a lot of great responses from you last time that fate and love can change destiny in the blink of an eye, but I guess my question is, when does destiny become fate and vice versa then? Who's to say that Max wasn't supposed to save Liz and then she and Max weren't supposed to be together? Couldn't the shooting have been destiny? Couldn't it have been in the plan? 3) Tess versus Liz: As an extension of the destiny/fate discussion, I love how diametrically different Liz and Tess are feeling right now about how things are supposed to be. According to Liz, "You are who you choose to be. You're with who you choose to be with" while Tess feels that Max must be with her because it was ordained in some way. It was really interesting to see these two women, trying desperately to rationalize what was going on inside of Max. It was really quite sad though to see how they are both clinging to the hope that Max will realize who his true soulmate is, while Max is like a deer caught in the headlights. 4) Aliens vs. Humans: I thought that tonight's episode really broke down what is inherently wrong with the Max and Michael relationship. Now more than ever, I feel as if these two guys would never even speak to each other had it not been for their shared alien ancestry. Max has embraced his "human" side and is somewhat apprehensive of learning more about his "alien" side. Michael is the complete opposite, constantly feeling alien and alienated. Their confrontation in the kitchen, with both accusing the other of being afraid to be who they really are was intense and revealing. Neither one trusts the other right now. Secrets are being kept and lies being told. There really is no middle ground for them. It's either do it my way or no way. I look forward to seeing how they can get back to being as close as they once were, if it is possible at this point. 5) The relationships in Roswell: A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills me to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional limbo and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when Liz asked Max what it was like to kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, she's starting to doubt Max and she's starting to doubt herself in subtle ways. It hurts to see them this way simply because they had finally found some semblance of normalcy. B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am putting these two couples together because I found them both really disturbing tonight. While I'm glad that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael finally said the "r" word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions would have been prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and Alex have shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I just wanted them to be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much they care for their aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt Michael and Isabel into action? I would have definetly preferred to see this done differently. C) Max and Tess: I swear, I don't know if it's because they haven't worked together for very long but I feel nothing when they're on the screen together. I hated their big confrontation scene by the rock formation. This is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I don't feel as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow for me. 6)Favorite Scene: The Crashdown Cafe scene where Liz revealed to Max that she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded and hurt in that moment and it seemed that for the first time, Liz was actually regrettting getting involved with an alien. 7) This mysterious "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap in logic. It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think that she was pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have been that the dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think of this one yet. Would love to hear from you guys about this because it has me completely befuddled. 8) The anti-climatic ending?: Did anyone else feel that the ending wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could have been. I kinda felt that the big reveal wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed to be. Though I felt slightly bad for Tess that she was left behind by the other three aliens, I didn't really feel anything even close to remorse. Again, this could be because I don't feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the group in any real emotional way. Not sure about this. Some minor thoughts: A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get more screen time!! "Can't beat a blonde" He's so funny :) B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to me that he's a worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because the aliens need help. C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and Tess scenes? What's up with that? D) Where are the parents? What's going on here? Weekly Shallow post: Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in not only two different tight t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not a religious person, but PRAISE JESUS :) Oh and why do they continue to dress Tess as if she's going to a disco? I know the wardrobe people are trying to make her the opposite of Liz but come on. Did Brendan get a hair cut? It looked different. Cute but different. I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next week looks INCREDIBLE. It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason to shine. Can't wait. I can't believe we have to wait a whole week again :) Take care all! Gina :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "...And now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You tell me that I'm crazy and then smile. And now I think I'll get through the end of the world...." Chantal Kreviazuk "...Well it's always fun and games until you realize that you don't have the skill in keeping the gag from going too far..." Aimee Mann ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFAE47.328FA910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well...let's see...I can't write too much b/c = I have a=20 big midterm at 8am YUCK! But anyway...I must agree about the = Tess/Max=20 chemistry...nothing there! I didn't like the rushing of Alex and Isabel, = but I=20 am sooo glad it happened finally. Alex is so cute...I would so go out = with him.=20 "You're beautiful you know that..." Awww...he is just too=20 adorable!

Michael and Maria scenes were few and far = between but I=20 loved when they kissed at school and you could see veryone watching in = the=20 background...and Maria looked a lil embarrassed (I liked that).=20

Liz=20 and Max definiely seem to be drifting a bit. Seems like Liz doesn't have = as much=20 faith as she is telling herself she has,huh? Max, though he is being=20 "controlled" should be doing a little more to repair the damage done by = his=20 kiss....I know, I know..he was like posessed (you know what I mean), but = still..I am such a dreamgirl and I can honestly say I was getting a = little=20 agravated with both Liz and Max in tonight's episode...not sure = why...just=20 wishing they were back in Sexual Healing or Crazy.

Kyle=20 was great...I wish they would show more of him...I loved how he and Liz = had that=20 little discussion in the Crashdown and how he wanted so badly to be all = over=20 Tess in the library...He is so over trying to figure out Liz! Thats = great..move=20 on Kyle.

My=20 suggestion for future seasons:

After saying what=20 I have thus far, I have to admit, if Michael and Isabel get = together...which I=20 do not want, I think Alex and Maria should get together...just my = opinion. =20 I think that is far from ever happening..b/c honestly, I would like to = see=20 Michael be with Liz before Isabel...after maybe a second season that = is...just=20 to spice it up.

Fave quote as of=20 right now (mentioned earlier): what can I say, I LOVE=20 Alex/Colin

"You're beautiful=20 you know that..." Not just the quote, but Alex in=20 general...LOL

Now to=20 study...gotta watch this episode again=20 tomorrow!

Mel

http://colinhanks.hk.st

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Subject:=20 [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four=20 Square"

Hey Guys,

Well, I just can't say enough about how I'm loving = the new=20 direction that the show is taking. The last three episodes have been = so=20 suspenseful and well written and the thought of the WB cancelling the = show=20 gets more ludicrous by the week. I can only hope that they've watched = these=20 last three episodes closely to see how the initial sci-fi aspects have = intensified. Having said that, another good episode. I have to admit = that I=20 found some plot lines slightly confusing, but I did like that the = story arc=20 has been moved along and that some questions are starting to get = answered.=20 Here are some thoughts and observations:

1) Michael and Isabel: Well, I = have to=20 admit that at first there was a very high ick factor in my mind about = this=20 coupling. To me, Isabel and Michael might as well be brother and = sister. But=20 then I saw them together, both in "reality" and in the dream plane = tonight,=20 and I have to say that there is a certain...something there. I don't = know if=20 it's chemistry or not but there is certainly a nice rapport between = the=20 two.There's an easiness to their togetherness that I like. Now don't = get me=20 wrong. I'm not saying they should be a couple, but the thought is less = heinous=20 to me now. I will now duck from the rocks thrown at me from the = Candygirls ;)=20 I am slightly confused about their "pregnancy" dream but that's=20 later.

2) The notion of destiny versus fate = again:=20 I'm sorry to beat a dead horse here but I am really loving what the = writers=20 are doing here by pinning destiny and fate against each other. From = what I=20 gleaned from tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's = destiny.=20 That somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big = fan of=20 Emilie's acting, I do like how she's mixed up the pot a bit. Since the = inception of the show, we've been led to believe that Max and Liz are=20 soulmates( a thought that I still hold on to). It's fascinating that = the=20 writers have now decided to sort of pull the rug out from under us and = challenge that completely. Yes, he's "loved" her since the 3rd grade = but are=20 they supposed to be together? I got a lot of great responses from you = last=20 time that fate and love can change destiny in the blink of an eye, but = I guess=20 my question is, when does destiny become fate and vice versa then? = Who's to=20 say that Max wasn't supposed to save Liz and then she and Max weren't = supposed=20 to be together? Couldn't the shooting have been destiny? Couldn't it = have been=20 in the plan?

3) Tess versus Liz: As an = extension of the=20 destiny/fate discussion, I love how diametrically different Liz and = Tess are=20 feeling right now about how things are supposed to be. According to = Liz, "You=20 are who you choose to be. You're with who you choose to be with" while = Tess=20 feels that Max must be with her because it was ordained in some way. = It was=20 really interesting to see these two women, trying desperately to = rationalize=20 what was going on inside of Max. It was really quite sad though to see = how=20 they are both clinging to the hope that Max will realize who his true = soulmate=20 is, while Max is like a deer caught in the headlights.

4) Aliens vs. Humans: I thought = that=20 tonight's episode really broke down what is inherently wrong with the = Max and=20 Michael relationship. Now more than ever, I feel as if these two guys = would=20 never even speak to each other had it not been for their shared alien=20 ancestry. Max has embraced his "human" side and is somewhat = apprehensive of=20 learning more about his "alien" side. Michael is the complete = opposite,=20 constantly feeling alien and alienated. Their confrontation in the = kitchen,=20 with both accusing the other of being afraid to be who they really are = was=20 intense and revealing. Neither one trusts the other right now. Secrets = are=20 being kept and lies being told. There really is no middle ground for = them.=20 It's either do it my way or no way. I look forward to seeing how they = can get=20 back to being as close as they once were, if it is possible at this=20 point.

5) The relationships in Roswell: =
A) Max=20 and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills me to = say=20 that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional limbo and = they=20 have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when Liz asked Max = what it=20 was like to kiss Tess? Though she's trying not to, she's starting to = doubt Max=20 and she's starting to doubt herself in subtle ways. It hurts to see = them this=20 way simply because they had finally found some semblance of=20 normalcy.

B) Michael and Maria and Alex and Isabel: I am = putting these=20 two couples together because I found them both really disturbing = tonight.=20 While I'm glad that Isabel finally made the move on Alex and Michael = finally=20 said the "r" word with Maria, I would have hoped that these actions = would have=20 been prompted by the undying dedication and devotion that Maria and = Alex have=20 shown and not out of fear or confusion about their dreams. I just = wanted them=20 to be less "used." Alex and Maria have proven how much they care for = their=20 aliens and yet it takes a couple of dreams to prompt Michael and = Isabel into=20 action? I would have definetly preferred to see this done=20 differently.

C) Max and Tess: I swear, I = don't know=20 if it's because they haven't worked together for very long but I feel = nothing=20 when they're on the screen together. I hated their big confrontation = scene by=20 the rock formation. This is one couple that really lacks chemistry. I = don't=20 feel as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if = they=20 belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow = for me.=20

6)Favorite Scene: The Crashdown = Cafe scene=20 where Liz revealed to Max that she was scared of Tess. I loved = the way=20 Max said, "So am I" when Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, = Max" .=20 Max looked so wounded and hurt in that moment and it seemed that for = the first=20 time, Liz was actually regrettting getting involved with an alien.=20

7) This mysterious=20 "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap in logic. = It's=20 bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think that she was = pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have been that = the=20 dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think of this one = yet.=20 Would love to hear from you guys about this because it has me = completely=20 befuddled.

8) The anti-climatic ending?: Did = anyone=20 else feel that the ending wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could have = been. I=20 kinda felt that the big reveal wasn't nearly as big as it was supposed = to be.=20 Though I felt slightly bad for Tess that she was left behind by the = other=20 three aliens, I didn't really feel anything even = close to=20 remorse. Again, this could be because I don't feel as if Tess has = ingratiated=20 herself to the group in any real emotional way. Not sure about=20 this.

Some minor thoughts: =

A) How great was Kyle tonight? Nick HAS to get = more screen=20 time!! "Can't beat a blonde" He's so funny :)

B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven = to me that=20 he's a worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone = because the=20 aliens need help.

C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that = permeate=20 the Isabel and Tess scenes? What's up with that?

D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20

Weekly Shallow = post:=20 Okay, did anyone else not love that Jason was in not only two = different tight=20 t-shirts but a tank top too? Again, I'm not a religious person, but = PRAISE=20 JESUS :) Oh and why do they continue to dress Tess as if she's going = to a=20 disco? I know the wardrobe people are trying to make her the opposite = of Liz=20 but come on. Did Brendan get a hair cut? It looked different. Cute but = different.

I would probably give this a 7.5 out of a 10. Next = week=20 looks INCREDIBLE. It also looks like a wonderful opportunity for Jason = to=20 shine. Can't wait. I can't believe we have to wait a whole week again = :) Take=20 care all! Gina :)

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then smile. And now I think I'll get = through=20 the end of the world...." Chantal=20 Kreviazuk

"...Well it's always fun = and games=20 until you realize that you don't have the skill in keeping the=20 gag
from going too = far..." =20 Aimee Mann

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Date: 24 Apr 2000 22:59:51 -0500 (CDT) well in answer to your question cassandra, the spoliers for the end of the season is that liz walks away from max so that he could fulfill his destiny. now about tonight's episode it was very exciting but kind of sad.i just can't believe or imagine max,michael,or isabel with anybody other than who they're with right now.i'd probably stop watching if they put them with different people.like i said before tess is a nice addition but i think that she should be with kyle.they make such a cute couple.it look like the thing between max and tess and isabel and michael were forced. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff M. Conway" Subject: [roswell] [Fwd: [All-Roswell] VENTS LOTS OF VENTING about tonights epi] Date: 25 Apr 2000 00:20:50 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------29C43FAD2E1E80EA6A176FE1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------29C43FAD2E1E80EA6A176FE1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <39051CF8.2D70AF89@po-box.mcgill.ca> Reply-To: jconwa5@po-box.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone please elucidate how Isabel got knocked up? Aside from the logistics, don't get me wrong, if my sister looked like her I'd consider breaking the incest taboo, but I just don't see them together. Jeff. --------------29C43FAD2E1E80EA6A176FE1-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 24 Apr 2000 23:24:58 -0700 "kaycomp" wrote: > tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That = > somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of = Meant by whom? One guess I had partway through was that Nacedo wants the aliens to stick together, and pair off, and the Orb has other plans. What, I'm not sure. But something chose to guide them to the Orb _through Liz_. I want to believe something's going on there. Possibly it's not Nacedo, and Tess really was manipulating them herself. Or Tess and Nacedo have had contact. And, of course, people could just be making stuff up: Tess thinks Max is destined for her because of their experience in the pod chamber and because she wants him and there are only four aliens and they should pair off. Me, I don't believe in fate or destiny. There's history and contingency and choice and chance. And for a shapeshifting species, mostly choice. But, hey. If Tess was left behind, she was probably captured by the troops we see in the Orb's memory. Well, guess she wasn't dissected. But it makes the idea that her 'father' is or military and knows what she is more plausible. But, hey two. Governmental infighting: the Army has Tess, and the FBI is still scrabbling for contact. Multiple players, multiple motives. > A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills = > me to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional = > limbo and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when = I don't think they're in limbo yet, although Liz has fears. They're still a couple under siege. This will probably get twisted up, because gods know there's not enough teenage romantic angst on TV. > as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they = > belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow = Why? Are you trusting the story? Silly: secondguess everything. Just because Tess babbles about destiny doesn't mean you have to believe her. What's important is if you can believe her character, not her and Max: can you believe she's been fixated on Max since they were six (or since she remembered what happened), that she's locked onto him because he's her kind and good looking and possibly has a racial purity thing either her own or from Nacedo? > that she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when = > Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded = This I didn't like. I thought Liz was more open. > 7) This mysterious "pregnancy": This to me was the most difficult leap = > in logic. It's bizarre to me that based on one dream, Isabel would think = > that she was pregnant with Michael's child. My first instinct would have = > been that the dream was premonitory. I really don't know what to think = Same here, premonitory. They _should_ be together, they _should_ have little alien kids to spread and take over the world. According to the dream-sender. > aliens, I didn't really feel anything even close to remorse. Again, this = > could be because I don't feel as if Tess has ingratiated herself to the = > group in any real emotional way. Not sure about this. Well, she hasn't. But by one line of thinking, she shouldn't have to: they're all aliens! Their kind should stick together! But the three have their own group, and have made connections to humans, and she's warping all of that. > B) Trust Valenti Dammit!!! He's more than proven to me that he's a = > worthy ally. It's about time they start trusting someone because the = > aliens need help. I'm still open to Valenti having been replaced between his returning the Orb and his taking pictures last week. Although I'm less sure after he showed off the camera. > C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and = > Tess scenes? What's up with that? The kitchen scene, yeah. *shrug* Not worth worrying about. Random cheesecake, or they were directing for some other effect and we have dirty minds. > D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20 What parents? We saw Ma Evans, the Parkers and De Luca are presumably busy and haven't had anything to worry about. The kids staying with Max is believable; old friends, tolerant parents. -xx- Damien X-) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 00:04:30 -0700 I wrote: > But, hey. If Tess was left behind, she was probably captured by the troops > we see in the Orb's memory. Well, guess she wasn't dissected. But it makes But hey, that was a really dumb idea, because the Orb's troops were in 1947, and the pods hatched in 1989. So there's no reason to assume what happened to Tess, at least not from the pod scene. -xx- Damien X-) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FairyRaid@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 03:07:52 EDT In a message dated 04/25/2000 12:05:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu writes: << But hey, that was a really dumb idea, >> Lets try to keep it a little more civil, please. Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 09:09:42 -0700 FairyRaid@aol.com wrote: > phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu writes: > > << But hey, that was a really dumb idea, >> > Lets try to keep it a little more civil, please. I hope I'm allowed to mock my own posts, as I was doing, having had second thoughts. -xx- Damien X-) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "scadian13" Subject: [roswell] thoughts and more thoughts.... Date: 25 Apr 2000 09:55:06 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BFAE9C.5589F920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable okay...some random thoughts.... it would seem as if max has always been "controlling" in a sense. i = mean, i love max & liz together, but let's look at things from a Tess = perspective for just a minute. she had the same "flash" as Max when = they were out in the desert, right? well, you know, for someone who was = basicaly left behind, she really ISN'T being that bad. i mean, she = could really see it as if they - and MAX especially- deserted her. = Michael didn't want to leave, he was torn (question here - would that = then make them - Michael & Tess- brother and sister too?. but max all = decides it is time to go, so they just leave tess behind. so, okay, = again, from her perspective, she has finally found them again. by all = rights she could be really resentful, and instead she is just like, = "yay, i found you! i have been w/o ANYONE like me my whole life. and = now we are all togther, like it "should be", like our "parents" had = wanted." and the rest of the aliens are like "we don't trust you, we = don't like you, etc." talk about resentment. =20 >They _should_ be together, they _should_ have little >alien kids to spread and take over the world. why take over?? why does it need to be a negative agenda? why not just = to continue their kind? =20 so is nasedo going to be tess' dad, then? i don't think it is tess, not = after tonite. =20 gotta go, my mind is still spinning.... --laura =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BFAE9C.5589F920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

okay...some random = thoughts....

it would seem as if max has always been = "controlling" in a sense. i mean, i love max & liz together, = but let's=20 look at things from a Tess perspective for just a minute. she had = the same=20 "flash" as Max when they were out in the desert, right? well, you = know,=20 for someone who was basicaly left behind, she really ISN'T being that = bad. =20 i mean, she could really see it as if they - and MAX especially- = deserted=20 her. Michael didn't want to leave, he was torn (question here - = would that=20 then make them - Michael & Tess- brother and sister too?. but = max all=20 decides it is time to go, so they just leave tess behind. so, okay, = again, from=20 her perspective, she has finally found them again. by all rights = she could=20 be really resentful, and instead she is just like, "yay, i found = you! i=20 have been w/o ANYONE like me my whole life. and now we are all togther, = like it=20 "should be", like our "parents" had wanted." and the rest of = the=20 aliens are like "we don't trust you, we don't like you, etc." talk = about=20 resentment.

>They _should_ be together, they = _should_ have=20 little
>alien kids to spread and take over the world.

why take over?? why does it need = to be a=20 negative agenda? why not just to continue=20 their kind?

so is nasedo going to be tess' dad, = then? i=20 don't think it is tess, not after tonite.

gotta go, my mind is still=20 spinning....

--laura

------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BFAE9C.5589F920-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 13:57:20 EDT i THOUGHT THE EPISODE WAS SOO GOOD!! Well i was so confused about the pregnancy of Isabel with Michael but i guess they left us hanging for another week until we know more. Was the pregnancy thing just in a dream or what? How would you guys explain the fact with them talking and Isabel asking "What are we going to do " So it is real? In need of an explanation! Tess, no comment about her except the fact that i hope her and Max will not get involved. Also I totally agreed with Gina that i thought the "NON-climaxed" ending could have been better. I also sensed that little lesbian action with the fact that Tess held Isabels hand and then she was talking into her ear and thos looks . Oh my! This show has such suspense! Even though i can't till next monday, i like the feeling that i can look forward to something after a long monday! What did you guys think about the Isabel and Michael thing? ANy predictions? -Kalina Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 13:59:33 EDT Also did you guys see how Tess kept turning away from Kyle? Interesting? They would make a cute couple. I agree with Joyce -Kalina Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:02:21 EDT I also agree with Damien about the fact that it's destiny that Tess should be with Max. I don't really trust her because she told Isabel that she liked Max and had these weird feelings so maybe she's using that . I dunno Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casandra Richardson" Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:24:43 -0400 I think in a way it would be cool if Isabel and Michael did have a child.. Did you see how happy they were in the dream with the new baby? Even though it was just a dream.. I believe dream express your inner desires and what needs to be.. Even though they are not always to clear they have meanings good or bad they are messages encoded .. Do you guys know what I mean?? But in another way I think that everyone should stay with the ones they are paired up with right now.. I think things are going so good.. No real reason to mess up three other peoples lives and make others so unhappy!! Also about next week when Nasado transforms into Max and takes Liz for some kind a ride and she says,"Your not Max!!!" And he says.. "Your right I am not" I really hope he does not hurt Liz that would be a real mistake.. I would really hate to see what Max might do to Nasado.. I know that Nasado is dangerous but Who to say Max won't go off and really hurt Nasado if Nasado hurts Liz?? Max has got powers to even though he does not know how to make them work... Anger and hate for Nasado might trigger those powers within.. Tell me what you think??? Casandra ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 1:57 PM Square" > i THOUGHT THE EPISODE WAS SOO GOOD!! > > Well i was so confused about the pregnancy of Isabel with Michael but i guess > they left us hanging for another week until we know more. > Was the pregnancy thing just in a dream or what? How would you guys explain > the fact with them talking and Isabel asking "What are we going to do " So it > is real? > In need of an explanation! > > Tess, no comment about her except the fact that i hope her and Max will not > get involved. > > Also I totally agreed with Gina that i thought the "NON-climaxed" ending > could have been better. > > I also sensed that little lesbian action with the fact that Tess held Isabels > hand and then she was talking into her ear and thos looks . Oh my! > > This show has such suspense! Even though i can't till next monday, i like the > feeling that i can look forward to something after a long monday! > > What did you guys think about the Isabel and Michael thing? ANy predictions? > -Kalina > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:42:09 -0400 Gina wrote: > >> tonight's episode, Tess is implying that she is Max's destiny. That = >> somehow, they are "meant" to be together. Though, I'm not a big fan of = >Damien wrote: >Meant by whom? Gina Wrote: What I was referring to here was that Tess is "meant" to be with Max simply because they are the same species. Any way you slice it, Liz is human and Max is not. We're not even sure if Max and Liz can be together biologically or physiologically speaking. I'm not taking into matters of the heart of course since I do believe that Max and Liz share an unbreakable emotional connection that he could never have with Tess. The way I see it, if you have a dog and a cat and another dog comes into the picture, the logical conclusion is that the dog would be a better mate for the dog, not the cat. Damien wrote: > >And, of course, people could just be making stuff up: Tess thinks Max is >destined for her because of their experience in the pod chamber and because >she wants him and there are only four aliens and they should pair off. Me, I >don't believe in fate or destiny. There's history and contingency and choice >and chance. And for a shapeshifting species, mostly choice. Gina Wrote: I agree with you to a point but I also believe in the power of fate and the unnerving ties of destiny. I believe things happen for a reason and that there is some bigger "plan" out there. It's all perspective though. What you chalk up to "chance and choice" could certainly be construed as fate. I believe that Tess was intended to be Max's destiny. That he was supposed to be with her because they share a genetic alien background and that they are supposed to serve some sort of alien purpose(not really sure what that is yet but there must be a reason for the "four square" stuff) However, I think that you can't discount love or emotions. It might have been fate that brought him to Liz. How else to explain the inexplicable connection he's had to her since the 3rd grade? He has always been drawn to her. Who's to say that this was not supposed to happen too. This is of course all speculative rambling.... Gina wrote: >> A) Max and Liz: This couple, as of now, is in trouble. Though it kills = >> me to say that, it's true. It's sort of like they're both in emotional = >> limbo and they have no idea how to get out of it. How sad was it when = Damien wrote: >I don't think they're in limbo yet, although Liz has fears. They're still a >couple under siege. This will probably get twisted up, because gods know >there's not enough teenage romantic angst on TV. Gina wrote: I stand behind my limbo statement simply because this is a part of their relationship that we've never seen before and both seemed as confused as we are as to where they stand with each other. It is a marked difference between the happiness of "Crazy" or even the tentativeness of "The Morning After." Where do they go from here. Their problems have always stemmed from Max's fear of getting too close, of going after a "normal human relationship." Now we're getting to see why he was worried and that outside influences like Tess, which tie into who he is inherently, can break them apart. How does Liz fight that? How do you combat your boyfriend being drawn to someone of his own kind? >Gina Wrote: >> as if they have this primordial connection. I don't feel as if they = >> belong together. This is really making that storyline ring very hollow = Damien wrote: > >Why? Are you trusting the story? Silly: secondguess everything. Just >because Tess babbles about destiny doesn't mean you have to believe her. >What's important is if you can believe her character, not her and Max: can you >believe she's been fixated on Max since they were six (or since she remembered >what happened), that she's locked onto him because he's her kind and good >looking and possibly has a racial purity thing either her own or from Nacedo? Gina Wrote: Good point. I shouldn't trust the story whole heartedly but at this point, it's all we have to go on. We know as much about the aliens as they do themselves. We are with them on their path to self discovery and Tess is the first real key that we have to the answers. Yes Tess babbles about destiny but what else is there to think? As you said, she is one of them. They are all aliens. You've got to believe that they share something more than just Tess fixating on Max. > Gina Wrote: >> that she was scared of Tess. I loved the way Max said, "So am I" when = >> Liz disgustedly said, "She's[Tess]an alien, Max" . Max looked so wounded = > Damien wrote: >This I didn't like. I thought Liz was more open. Gina wrote: I think what I liked about this line was that Liz was finally admitting that there are things about Max that scare her. Liz has been so trusting and so receptive to Max even though he's an alien. Even during "Sexual Healing." she was willing to sleep with him despite the possible physical harm it could cause her. The heart can only take you so far. I love Max and Liz to death but she has to at some point confront his "alien side." She can't pretend that Max is human anymore(which I think we all have been guilty of) To me, this represents a shift in their relationship where Liz is going to have to grow up a little and realize that Max is indeed "different." Gina Wrote: >> C)Is anyone catching the lesbian undertones that permeate the Isabel and = >> Tess scenes? What's up with that? > Damien wrote: >The kitchen scene, yeah. *shrug* Not worth worrying about. Random >cheesecake, or they were directing for some other effect and we have dirty >minds. Gina wrote: LOL! I'm really not worrying about it. I was just curious although maybe you're right and we all do have dirty minds :) I just find this to be an interesting choice of acting on Emilie's part or an interesting choice by the directors. Not really sure which one. > >> Gina wrote: D) Where are the parents? What's going on here?=20 > Damien wrote: >What parents? We saw Ma Evans, the Parkers and De Luca are presumably busy >and haven't had anything to worry about. The kids staying with Max is >believable; old friends, tolerant parents. Gina wrote: I actually like the interaction between the parents and the kids on the show. I liked the conversation between Liz and her mom in "Sexual healing" and the Maria and Amy scene during "ID." I miss that. Anyhoo, interesting comments and much to ponder until next week. Gina :) >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELLEROFTALESDT@webtv.net (JOYCE DATES) Subject: Re: [roswell] thoughts and more thoughts.... Date: 25 Apr 2000 17:19:54 -0500 (CDT) well in my opinion that would be a bad thing. i mean michael and tess arte brother and sister just like max and isabel.if max and tess and michael and isabel got together and had kids then who would their kids be with not each other because then they would be cousins.which is probably why max and liz,michael and maria,andisabel and alex are attracted to each other.maybe thats why liz got flashes of their planet when her and max were kissing in sexual healing. plus i seems that tess is more attracted to izabel than anything she has with max.with max and tess it seems as though they are trying to force a relationship were there is none. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELLEROFTALESDT@webtv.net (JOYCE DATES) Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Date: 25 Apr 2000 17:34:54 -0500 (CDT) well in my opinion tess may be max's destiny but fate stepped in with liz which means to me she is his future.i think the only thing that can change a persons' destiny is fate,and if liz is his fate then she must be his future. joyce dates Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 16:17:37 PDT i agree.. this ep was GOOD! but, i am thinking along the lines, that isabel's pregnancy is like a *dream*. it has to be...cuz what is the purpose of it? if all this is real, what kind of pregnancy is this going to be? how do aliens have babies or pods? i def need to watch this eppie again. kellygirl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 19:38:45 EDT didx any one notice th seventeen magazine with shiri in it.It was hone in teh library(seventeen)shiri passed it Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 19:51:16 -0400 Hey...I didn't notice that..LOL I am definitely going to watch it a few more times...LOl Thats so funny. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Tobasco26@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 7:39 PM Square" didx any one notice th seventeen magazine with shiri in it.It was hone in teh library(seventeen)shiri passed it Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 22:31:15 EDT LISTEN GUYS BIG NEWS: MY FRIEND JUST CALLED ME AND SAID THAT WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING SHE HEARD ON THE RADIO THAT ROSWELL WILL BE OFFICIALLY CANCELLED BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF ROSWELL HAVE SENT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS!! IS THIS TRUE!??? PLEASE IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLEASE SAY ANYTHING!!!!! I ALSO HEARD THAT EVEN THOUGH THROUGH ALL OF THE FANS' LETTERS, THEY WILL CANCELL THE SHOW! IF THIS IS ONLY SOME KIND OF A RUMOR I'M SO SORRY TO BOTHER YOU! I HEARD THIS AND I WAS SHOCKED AND SHE SAID IT WAS ON THE NEWS! I'M SO FRIGHTENED !!!! PLEASE TALK SOON IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING -KALINA Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CryptykGrl@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 22:44:57 EDT We don't know anything about whether it will be renewed or not, and we will not know until May 16th, I think. That is the date when the WB officially announces their decision. I've read things that look very promising, and personally, there are way too many signs for me to believe it will be cancelled. I mean, they're coming out with trading cards, the Levi ad campaign, so many magazines are saying it shouldn't be cancelled, they've been featured in many magazines, I don't know... Erin In a message dated 4/25/00 7:32:11 PM, Peplik@aol.com writes: >LISTEN GUYS BIG NEWS: > >MY FRIEND JUST CALLED ME AND SAID THAT WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING SHE HEARD >ON THE >RADIO THAT ROSWELL WILL BE OFFICIALLY CANCELLED BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF > >ROSWELL HAVE SENT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS!! >IS THIS TRUE!??? PLEASE IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLEASE SAY > >ANYTHING!!!!! >I ALSO HEARD THAT EVEN THOUGH THROUGH ALL OF THE FANS' LETTERS, THEY WILL > >CANCELL THE SHOW! IF THIS IS ONLY SOME KIND OF A RUMOR I'M SO SORRY TO >BOTHER >YOU! I HEARD THIS AND I WAS SHOCKED AND SHE SAID IT WAS ON THE NEWS! >I'M SO FRIGHTENED !!!! >PLEASE TALK SOON IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING >-KALINA > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 25 Apr 2000 22:54:43 -0400 I do not think it willbe cancelled..esp after last night's awesome ratings! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of CryptykGrl@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:45 PM Square" We don't know anything about whether it will be renewed or not, and we will not know until May 16th, I think. That is the date when the WB officially announces their decision. I've read things that look very promising, and personally, there are way too many signs for me to believe it will be cancelled. I mean, they're coming out with trading cards, the Levi ad campaign, so many magazines are saying it shouldn't be cancelled, they've been featured in many magazines, I don't know... Erin In a message dated 4/25/00 7:32:11 PM, Peplik@aol.com writes: >LISTEN GUYS BIG NEWS: > >MY FRIEND JUST CALLED ME AND SAID THAT WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING SHE HEARD >ON THE >RADIO THAT ROSWELL WILL BE OFFICIALLY CANCELLED BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF > >ROSWELL HAVE SENT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS!! >IS THIS TRUE!??? PLEASE IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLEASE SAY > >ANYTHING!!!!! >I ALSO HEARD THAT EVEN THOUGH THROUGH ALL OF THE FANS' LETTERS, THEY WILL > >CANCELL THE SHOW! IF THIS IS ONLY SOME KIND OF A RUMOR I'M SO SORRY TO >BOTHER >YOU! I HEARD THIS AND I WAS SHOCKED AND SHE SAID IT WAS ON THE NEWS! >I'M SO FRIGHTENED !!!! >PLEASE TALK SOON IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING >-KALINA > Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rosweluvn00grad@webtv.net Subject: [roswell] Ratings Date: 25 Apr 2000 22:38:39 -0500 (CDT) Does anyone know what Four Square's ratings were? Heather "Max and Liz- the best of both worlds!"- My brother Terry "I think I'll just have an alien blast."- Max "Me too."- Liz from Roswell "No what we go through it's all worthwhile for me becase we're together."- Max from Roswell "Lets hope nothing explodes."-Liz from Roswell "Now my life is in your hands."-Max from Roswell "I said sit down Dogboy!"- Kyle from Roswell "What's so great about normal?"- Max from Roswell Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Ratings Date: 26 Apr 2000 10:27:54 -0400 They were awesome!!! Check out the info about them at www.crashdown.com Roswell's renewal is becoming more of a reality in my opinion! Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rosweluvn00grad@webtv.net Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 11:39 PM Does anyone know what Four Square's ratings were? Heather "Max and Liz- the best of both worlds!"- My brother Terry "I think I'll just have an alien blast."- Max "Me too."- Liz from Roswell "No what we go through it's all worthwhile for me becase we're together."- Max from Roswell "Lets hope nothing explodes."-Liz from Roswell "Now my life is in your hands."-Max from Roswell "I said sit down Dogboy!"- Kyle from Roswell "What's so great about normal?"- Max from Roswell Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:43:32 EDT I just talked with my friend again and she said this morning they were making different jokes about all sorts of things (not pertaining to Roswell but just jokes about whats happening on the news). She told me that they might have been just making jokes or they were just saying that Roswell MIGHT be getting cancelled. Thanx ERIN for the update and sorry guys . I was wrong. -Kalina Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Debhanza@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:04:02 EDT Thank God, I was ready to have a heart attack!!! The show keeps getting better and better and can't stop now! ~Deb Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:50:10 EDT sorry DEb!!!!! Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yoder, Denise" Subject: RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Squa Date: 26 Apr 2000 13:52:39 -0500 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAFB0.9863FBDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Speaking of magazines...was the InStyle magazine that Tess was flipping through just before Kyle sat down (in the courtyard as Max was looking out the window with Liz) the same one that Jason was in with his movie gear? Just wondering...I thought it might be the one... ...q the ever observant...good catch on the seventeen mag...I missed that one! -----Original Message----- From: Tobasco26@aol.com [SMTP:Tobasco26@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 6:39 PM To: roswell@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about "Four Square" didx any one notice th seventeen magazine with shiri in it.It was hone in teh library(seventeen)shiri passed it Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAFB0.9863FBDC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [roswell] SPOILERS:Thoughts and Observations about = "Four Square"

Speaking of magazines...was the InStyle magazine that = Tess was flipping through just before Kyle sat down (in the courtyard = as Max was looking out the window with Liz) the same one that Jason was = in with his movie gear? Just wondering...I thought it might be = the one...

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the ever observant...good catch on the seventeen = mag...I missed that one!

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFAFB0.9863FBDC-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kaycomp" Subject: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise-alien pendant Date: 27 Apr 2000 06:39:36 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01BFB013.5AD774C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Guys, Just wanted to let you know that PowerStar Merchandise has updated their = page. They now have some great keychains, a copy of Dreamwatch Magazine, = and of course photos. Most notably, they are now selling an alien = pendant necklace, similar to the one that Isabel wears. I remember a few = people asking on the lists if the necklace was available for purchase. = Enjoy! Gina :) http://www.tvmerch.com/shop/enter.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= ^^^^ "...And now I think it's kind of funny that you say you love me. You = tell me that I'm crazy and=20 then smile. And now I think I'll get through the end of the = world...." Chantal Kreviazuk "...Well it's always fun and games until you realize that you don't have = the skill in keeping the gag from going too far..." Aimee Mann ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01BFB013.5AD774C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Just = wanted to let you=20 know that PowerStar Merchandise has updated their page. They now have = some great=20 keychains, a copy of Dreamwatch Magazine, and of course photos. Most = notably,=20 they are now selling an alien pendant necklace, similar to the one that = Isabel=20 wears. I remember a few people asking on the lists if the necklace was = available=20 for purchase. Enjoy! Gina :)

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------=_NextPart_000_0111_01BFB013.5AD774C0-- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rose21088@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 27 Apr 2000 17:39:56 EDT Hi guys, Thanks for all the info on where to buy the roswell merchandise online, but I was wondering if you guys know of any stores that actually sell roswell stuff, because it's so much faster to buy stuff in stores. Email me if ya do. Thanks Wendy Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mel" Subject: RE: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 27 Apr 2000 17:48:11 -0400 Nope..no stores as of now that I am aware of. Mel -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-roswell@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rose21088@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 5:40 PM Hi guys, Thanks for all the info on where to buy the roswell merchandise online, but I was wondering if you guys know of any stores that actually sell roswell stuff, because it's so much faster to buy stuff in stores. Email me if ya do. Thanks Wendy Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 27 Apr 2000 17:42:49 EDT go to the book store, any in fact.Look for magazines in which roswell appeared in in and roswell hihg books by melinda metz.I bouight a roswell calendar in this calendar store.It is really phat.Just explore actually .hope this can sort a` help- Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rose21088@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 27 Apr 2000 17:45:03 EDT Thanks so much guys, I didn't know that they had a Roswell calendar out already, is it for this year or next year? Well anyway thanks Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] A Roswell Time Article Date: 28 Apr 2000 22:25:01 EDT Hey guys! I was enjoying my friday evening while watching a movie and i started looking at a magizine and i found an article on Roswell. I found this in Time magazine and it's from May 1st. (for reference) It's called SAVE THIS SHOW! "It was the year youth dramas flunked out. But three endangered standouts deserve promotion." "They are Felicity, Roswell, and Freaks and Geeks" The article talks about different shows that have never made it through 1 season and then the article continues about why these three are different. It has nice words about the show. Read on.This is what I got concerning Roswell: "No network has felt the teen fallout more than the youth-heavy WB, home of both Felicity and Roswell; it has fallen to sixth place, behind UPN this season. CEO Jamie Kellner defends the network's focus: "You have to be able to define yourself, like any good brand, so when you see the logo, you can taste it." But clearly the network has felt pressure; the teen-alien drama Roswell has upped its focus on science fiction to stand out. "One thing the WB wanted us to do less of," says creator Jason Katims, "was scenes in the school, because there are so many shows on the air where you see high school or college hallways.Though the show's ratings have perked since a time-slot change, it's still uncertain for renewal, as is Roswell (Monday, 9 p.m. E.T.), which just last fall was riding high on a 22-episode commitment. The triumph of Roswell is that it takes what sounds like an SNL skit--teen UFO-crash survivors in New Mexico--and plays it straight, with an eerie, noir beauty and stately pacing rare on today's chatty dramas. (Few series do pauses better than Roswell, thanks largely to Jason Behr, who plays alien Max like a junior Duchovny.)" "If any of the trio see the fall, they can thank a young fan base with little better to do than badger TV execs, abetted by websites, the fanatic's best friend. Roswellians sent the WB thousands of bottles of Tabasco sauce, a favorite condiment of the aliens. (WB flacks reshipped bottles to TV critics nationwide.) Felicityphiles have sent in cassettes like the ones Felicity mails to her friend Sally--and, creepily, locks of their own hair--and crashed WB servers with e-mail. Meanwhile, Freaks freaks are sending peanuts to networks that may buy the show (a favorite character on the show is allergic) and are taking out a full-page ad in Variety, as have Roswell fans." "Of course, TV execs have other numbers to worry about besides the Tabasco-bottle count, and one can imagine the arguments--Freaks is too oddball, Felicity has had two years to prove itself, Roswell boasts one set too many of pretty teen faces. But consider the series premises they're choosing from for next fall: a boy millionaire helps people by means of a website; a rock band contacts the dead with a magic amulet; Bette Midler plays a woman who's a lot like Bette Midler. Those nuts firing off e-mail could be the best friends TV bosses, and the rest of us, have." CLICK here for the entire article -Kalina :P Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peplik@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] A Roswell Time Article Date: 28 Apr 2000 22:28:32 EDT The website is: click here for the whole article sorry i made a minor mistake!! -Kalina :) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rose21088@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 30 Apr 2000 13:16:05 EDT Hi guys, Do any of you guys know if there is a Roswell calendar out for next year yet? And if there is where can I buy it? Thanks ~Wendy~ Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobasco26@aol.com Subject: Re: [roswell] Roswell Merchandise Date: 30 Apr 2000 14:26:37 EDT yes it came out its for the year 2001,go to a calendar store and buy it check around for any local calendar store Mystery~~~```~~(www.thewb.com(go to talk) Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Stone" Subject: RE: [roswell] A Roswell Time Article Date: 30 Apr 2000 14:26:43 -0500 > But consider the series premises they're choosing from for > next fall: a boy millionaire helps people by means of a > website; a rock band contacts the dead with a magic amulet; > Bette Midler plays a woman who's a lot like Bette Midler. LOL, I know I'm on the edge of my seat waiting fot the boy millionaire one. And I'm sure the rest of you would prefer to watch Bette Midler over your favorite Roswell cast member. ;-) Well, I guess some of you got some TV Guide spoilers recently. I'll place some spoiler space, just in case: S P O I L E R | S P A C E Okay, now that we know Tess isn't [apparently] Nasedo (although some believe it's Ed Harding, Tess' father), she gets captured. I'm guessing at this point that she'll probably be killed... so you Tess haters may have something to look forward to? :) Actually, I don't feel she fits with the rest of the cast either. It's just too weird... Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelly Girl" Subject: RE: [roswell] A Roswell Time Article Date: 30 Apr 2000 16:31:39 PDT spoilers and speculations below.... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tess is going to be captured? by whom? i am one of those that does not like tess AT ALL.... and i do not believe that she is "one of them"... i think that all the "flashes and flashbacks" have been tess induced and not at all true... i believe she is manipulating everyone. i don't know *who* tess is, not sure *who* her dad is. since Roswell has moved to monday night, this show has picked up a pace that leaves me with questions/confusion and jaw dropped. i luv this show! i have from the first ep to the most recent one, and i want MORE! i hope that the article in Time gets attention from the powers that be at the WB. bette midler? what is that all about? ewwwwwwww! kellygirl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RayneFire2@aol.com Subject: [roswell] Four Square Inconsitency Date: 30 Apr 2000 23:53:30 EDT I finally got to see Four Square on Saturday, and I really enjoyed it. But one thing really bothered me. They seemed to re-write some of the history to make this episode work. In The Balance, Max told Liz that he and Isabel found each other first, but that they could sense someone else. Then they found Michael. But in Four Square, they all came out of their pods together (with the exception of Tess) and left together. I hate inconsistencies like that! Also, I've always wondered if Max, Michael or Isabel had gone out into the desert to search for the pods they came from. If I just mysteriously appeared in the desert, I know I'd go back frequently searching for clues to my identity! :) Rayne Visit http://www.xmission.com/~btvs/roswell/ for help and info.