From: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com To: rubberstampers-digest@xmission.com Subject: rubberstampers Digest V2 #256 Reply-To: rubberstampers@xmission.com Errors-To: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com Precedence: rubberstampers Digest Friday, 14 February 1997 Volume 02 : Number 256 In this issue: RS:A&S: Watercolor Project Re: R/S ... SORTA TAN ... " WHAT IF .... " -Reply TAN Volunteerism (was Re: TAN: PLEASING ALL THE PEOPLE) Re: TAN: Homework Help...the answer! Re: A STAMPER A DAY Stamp... Re: RS: Odd question (music) RS: Post Office Envy Template RS: PSX and Hero Catalog Orders Updates Comm: Metallic rubs on available and a project to try Re: Shaunna's Vendor Question Re: gocco printer Re: RS- Official Earth & Sky Co Fwd: Favorite Chalk Techniques? NEW Confetti Swap!! - Update See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the rubberstampers or rubberstampers-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elaine Normandy Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:44:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: RS:A&S: Watercolor Project Last week, I asked for information on watercolors. Thanks to everyone who responded. This is what I ended up doing for the Magenta swap that I just mailed yesterday. I used Strathmore 300 series watercolor paper. Since I was using a highly detailed stamp, I was a little worried about the crispness of the image, but the paper took it very well. I used my black Printworks Watercolor stamp pad, and a small brayer to thoroughly ink the stamp before making the impression. I started "water coloring" almost immediately, with no smearing. I used my Marvy Markers for the colors, because I have been collecting the natural earth tone colors, and I wanted an muted, old fashioned look for the image. Using a plastic watercolor palette, which has small wells circling a center larger well, I scribbled with the colors I wished to use in the small wells, then diluted them with water from the middle large well until I got the intensity that I like. Then I brushed the color onto the image. I could fit four images onto the watercolor paper, and water colored them before I cut them out. Although there was a little flexing, I was impressed how flat the images turned out. I then assembled the card, using my double sided tape film. Everything stayed reasonably flat, although I am not the purist in this that some are: I figure it gives it that handmade look :-) I liked the way the project turned out very much, and am glad that I made an extra to keep. I got the ideas about using the Printworks pad and the Marvy Markers from a class at Creative Impressions, and am particularly grateful at Janet Detter Margul's insistence that one must use #140 watercolor paper. Elaine Normandy (High Plains Stamper) Colorado Springs, Colorado, where all the weeds are wildflowers elaine@stardel.com http://rainbow.rmi.net/~elaine/elainepg.html ------------------------------ From: DragonLady (Laurell Millheim) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 13:21:30 -0800 Subject: Re: R/S ... SORTA TAN ... " WHAT IF .... " -Reply Rosemarie we've got to stop mind melding like this, people will talk! DragonLady >>> Smith 02/06/97 10:31am >>> I wish we could set up some sort of Better Business Bureau system where we could file complaints or look up a person's record (good or bad) before ordering or swapping. A vendor/host could also check their record for complaints and add an explanation to their record to clear up matters. It's so frustrating to wait for a refund which never comes knowing you have no recourse and that others may end up in your same situation. Rosemarie On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, hornbrkj wrote: > Greetings All: > > Popping in with a question that I hope will generate some list discussion > ... > > **WHAT IF....** someone (Madame "X") on the list has not fulfilled their > obligation as hostess (i.e., didn't return swap cards), or if someone > (Madame "Y") on the list absconded with $$ sent to them for items that were > never sent out. I am *not* referring here to a hostess who had some > unforeseen circumstances come her way, and who has explained to the > participants that things would be late. I am talking about those people > who let months and months go by, who don't return e-mail or snail mail > inquiries .... > > Do you think Madame "X" or Madame "Y" should be *allowed* to sign up for > SSS? > > Do you think if Madame "X" or Madame "Y" goes to the list and sets up a > swap with herself as hostess, that anyone having knowledge of her past > "non-performance" should advise the list? > > At what point should "all be forgiven and forgotten?" > > I guess you all know what I think, so won't bore you with the gory details. > > Ant Judy H. > > ------------------------------ From: Janet Detter Margul Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 00:51:09 -0600 Subject: TAN Volunteerism (was Re: TAN: PLEASING ALL THE PEOPLE) At 08:00 PM 2/8/97 EST, Patti Welsh wrote: >If they don't like the way I do it, they're welcome to do it themselves >and I'll step out of the loop. > >(This last sentence, however, specifically pertains to volunteerism where >volunteers are treated like carpets to be walked on and people seem to >think because you're not getting paid, your work is worth nothing - value >given for value received or something like). The flip side, especially with volunteers... is the volunteer attitude "I'm doing this for free so anything I do you better appreciate, it's better than nothing." And that is usually not true. As a nonprofit management volunteer, I expect my volunteers to bring to the job the same professionalism and dependability someone being paid would bring. And an undependable (or inept) volunteer is NOT better than nothing. It's worse than just about anything. It's very tricky firing a volunteer. And damned if most of the really bad ones aren't also major donors. Anyways, I'm a hardass. Volunteer with me and I expect your best. I also treat my volunteers the way I want to be treated... because I'm a volunteer, too. Volunteering volunteer management is sometimes the pits. ========================================================================= Janet Detter Margul | Real women don't have hot flashes... WeeBe Graphics Plano, Texas | they have power surges! ========================================================================= * * * janet@plano.net * * * janet.npc@genie.com * * * NEW web pages with a new address: http://www.dallas.net/~janet/index.html ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: mavinci@juno.com (Ma Vinci) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 12:20:41 EST Subject: Re: TAN: Homework Help...the answer! Then WHY will we be celebrating the turn of the century on New Year's eve 1999?? I actually disagree with the correct answer...I think it's 1900 - 1999 and then 2000-2999... but I've been WRONG many, many times in my life. Probably more times than I've been right. Anyway, that's the scoop from my end, guess I'll stick with it! :o) Robin On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:53:50 -0500 (EST) Rubbrangel@aol.com writes: >Hi everybody! > >Thanks to everyone who responded to my plea for homework help. I >received >responses from 65 wonderful people!! Wow...am I impressed. :) > >If you remember, the question I asked you to answer was, "What is the >first >year of the next century?" I had a variety of responses ranging >from..."Is >this a trick question?" to explanations of why the first year is the >first >year to a couple of people who couldn't make up their minds and voted >two >ways! You guys crack me up... > >The answer >is............................................................................ >............................. >The year 2001!! Why, you ask? Because we number our centuries from 1 >through 100. There is no year 0, so the year 2000 is the last year in >this >century! > >How did the vote go? Fifteen people voted for the year 2000, (with >two >maybes) and forty-seven people voted for the year 2001, (with one >maybe!). > Congratulations...you did better than the people at my husband's >office...and they are CPAs. (I think rubber increases the number of >brain >cells.) > >The prize, should my daughter win, is a homework pass that will allow >her to >skip homework on two nights....of her choice. Pretty good prize, >considering >the amount of homework she has! > >Thanks again for helping out. You are the best. > >Janice > ------------------------------ From: bbursey@roanoke.infi.net (Betsy Bursey) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:20:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: A STAMPER A DAY Stamp... Yahoo! My Stamper A Day stamp arrived and it's fantastic! It was just in time to use on the envy to my MIL for her Valentine Card. She has just been told she has a malignant tumor in her small intestine and is having it removed March 4. Getting a card off to Gary today for this wonderful contribution. Many, many thanks to you, Robin for the idea and organization. Betsy B. ------------------------------ From: Aglaia@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:32:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: RS: Odd question (music) volabra - for native american, I enjoy "Gathering of Shamen, native flute ensemble" and "Spirit Feather, mesa music consort" both by Talking Taco Records catalog PO Box 781211 San Antonio TX 78278 For peppy, nothing like the Commitments, movie was super also - rent it if you never have :-) Keltic - of course, Enya, Loreena McKennit, The Women of the World (already mentioned) Celtic, International is wonderful too (in SF at Global Exchange, also Berkeley and Mill Valley locations) more obscure Keltic: Song of the Irish Whistle, Joannie Madden, Hearts o Space Records website http://www.hos.com, from the Scottish Games and other fairs: The Browne Sisters and George Cavanaugh (more traditional than say Enya) - I have Castle Dangerous, a friend has all 4 (one's Xmas), Woodenship Records PO Box 1172 Canyone Country CA 91386, Alasdair Fraser (Scottish Fiddle - teaches and perfoms with Orchestra locally) Culburnie Records PO Box 765 North San Juan, CA 95960 - I have SkyeDance a CD with Paul Machlis, again a friend has collected and enjoys all pieces. From the Harvest Festival: Shakin Down the Acorns - Irish and Appalachian folk tunes featuring Hammered Dulcimer (this was a REALLY hard choice, they had 3 folks tune sets to listen to and all were wonderful, I do like Hammered Dulcimer) bu Tony Elman & Earthtones (same artist) "new horizons for the hammered dulcimer, no addy on cd but Acorn Records, Berkeley CA - they do have a full catalog And - ever since my Machu Piccu trip I buy Peruvian music from the folks who play on the street corners - have 3 wonderful cd's and a few tapes (yes, I was around when tapes were still popular). Basically, the quality is fine, if you come across some folks at a street fair or corner in SF - go ahead and get a cd if you like what they're playing on those wonderful pipes. maggie ..off to change the CD ------------------------------ From: coopers@ix.netcom.com (Stratos Dwellers ) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:21:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: RS: Post Office Envy Template Joanne and list members, I also have begged postal clerks to sell me one of those templates. They're made of very sturdy plastic and are fantastic. The closest I could come to getting one was a clerk in Bellevue, WA who made a photocopy of it for me! Not the same but better than nothing. There must be a postal employee on our list (or a relative of one) who could check into this for us. I'm willing to pay the necessary cost for one. I could use in work also. (I work at The Paper Zone in Redmond, WA and customers are constantly asking how much the different size envys will cost to mail. I'd like to be able to say more than telling them they'll have to check at the PO!) Please, if you have any information concerning these templates..... post it to the list. We'd all benefit! Have fun today, CoppeRubber ;) >On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 Niteowljo@aol.com wrote: >> A 6 x 9 envy can be sent for .32 up to 1oz. The thickness can not be over>> 1/4" thick. They have a cardboard (for lack of a better word my mind is>> blank this early in the am) pallette with all the envelope sizes outlined on>> it and they lay your envy on it and if it over the line it is mailed as the>> next size up. Hope this makes sense. The cardboard they have also has a>> slit in it cut out 1/4" thick. If your envy fits through it, and is under>> 1oz. it will mail for .32. >> >> I asked to buy (this piece of cardboard) practically begged, and they said>> no. It is for postal use only. I am going to try another post office but if>> anyone knows where they can be purchased please e-mail me directly or post>> for all. It would save trips to the post office. >> >> Joanne >> niteowljo@aol.com ------------------------------ From: rubberchickenlady@juno.com (Betsy McLoughlin) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 00:03:28 EST Subject: RS: PSX and Hero Catalog Orders Updates Okay gang - the first batch of the anxiously awaited catalogs have arrived! YEAH! Can't you hear the chickens clucking now? Feathers are flying everywhere. The chickens have been verrrrrry busy getting these orders processed and ready for mailing. They will be winging their way towards you by Monday at the latest - possibly Saturday. We have been swamped with the response and we are doing our very best to keep our rubber necks above water (catalogs and orders! :)). Mr. Chicken keeps telling me that I have to get more than 3 hours of sleep a night and now my body is screaming at me too and I've come down with a nasty sore throat. What do chicken's take for a sore throat and raspy voice??? Can't take the normal - chicken soup - what to do, what to do.... The next batches of catalogs are expected soon (since the first batch sold out so fast)- we already have the envelopes stamped and addressed waiting to go. So - hang on gang, relief (and catalogs) are on the way. Just in case you're wondering why it is such a big job - over 300 catalogs have been ordered and the orders are still coming in. WOW! (and that's on top of normal business, computer problems, and no sleep).... :) Thanks so much ya'll. cluck cluck Other orders are being worked on fast and furious also - they are going out daily to vendors and you guys. Until I get caught up, I may not be able to notify everyone personally about their order. Please feel free to contact me by phone or fax if you don't hear from me through e-mail. Thanks so much for your patience. Now I'm going to bed cause it's midnight again and Mr. Chicken is munching M&M's beside me and isn't leaving until I go with him. Good nite all...... Betsy, The Rubber Chicken Lady rubberchickenlady@juno.com Stamping Each Day Keeps the Doctor Away!!! 9200 Frostburg Way, Gaithersburg, MD 20879-1452 301/963-4302 fax 301/948-0644 ------------------------------ From: baglady@wolfenet.com Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:19:01 +0000 Subject: Comm: Metallic rubs on available and a project to try I have the four diffrent sets of metallic rubs on it in stock and would love to see them fly to your house.. they are great, the kits are as follows: Kit 1: gold, emerald, ruby, silver, copper, purple, blue kit2 brass, gunmetal, deep gold, olive, pewtwer, nubian, colonial kit3 gold white, cameo pink, Iris, silver blue, rosewood, sky blue, walnut kit4 russet, amber, apple green, white sparkle, silver gray, sunburst, midnight sparkle Here is a exmaple of hat you can do: using the sun, azetec design (sunn hero art, azetec Judi kins) wad up a piece of toweling, sprtiz with water, color toweling with gray water-based marker. swirl glossy. coated card stock to get a base color, repeat until card is colored. with your fingers, swirl varying shades of mettallic and luster rub -ons, such as brass. pewter, olive, deep gold, and gunmetal from kit 2 and copper from kit o1 over the marked paper. stamp the design with the black pigment ink and emboss with clear powder. Cut out designs and remount on colored background paper. or use the house stamp from penny black, use the finger or sponge applictor to apply rub ons of gold and copper from kit 1 and brass from kit s on a natural colored paper. Stamp design with black pigment ink and emboss, with clear powder, Using above method, addd color to the stamp image awith colonial from kit2 and sunburst fromkit 4.. Spray with a fixative to seal// depending on your project you can either use glossy or un coatedpapers,, these kits are : 2.45 each.. and worth it.. Baggie if you buy four I will throw in a applicator.. Baggie Baggie baglady@wolfenet.com 903 54th St. SE Auburn, WA 98092 I stamp whatever the little voices tell me. http://www.wolfenet.com/~baglady ------------------------------ From: Aglaia@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:33:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Shaunna's Vendor Question >>I was curious about your statement: >yes, I know vendors are supposed to have skin like hide, but I don't,< Why would vendors not be expected to have feelings on this list? As a "vendor-want-to-be" I suppose I take a more person interest here.<< ummn, most folks might want to respond to you in email, but since I'm out here anyway :-/ I find that everyone I meet in person at the shows and about town is wonderful, person to person contact seems to help communication and even when differences of opinion about things exist, they aren't taken so divisively as happens in online communication, they're taken more at face value - "you have a different opinion than me". In my time online I have found that 'some' folks think once your a "businessperson" you'd better just get a grip and do things a certain way (PLEASE read some not all - thufar it's taken me 2+ hours this am to answer all the private notes of support, support DOES exist and all of us do appreciate it)). So, if theft makes me crazy, many would think you're in business it's part of doing business, deal with it. My take is it makes me crazy & I don't "get over it" fast, so I'll do less shows, I can easily run my business with less shows - you can reach people with a few more ads instead of shows, it's just a choice. There are a very very small handful that get "indignant" that I make this choice, even tho it keeps me happy (& therefor a tad healthier). Over the years I've seen it go back and forth (more on aol where there's a vendor board that can be read by all) that some believe "if you have a company you must run it like I would and I can even feel angered if you don't" and others jumping in "it's this person's life they can make this or that choice about how to run their business cause they live with that choice". I know others will disagree (hopefully not too divisively) but I believe SOME folks are "harder" on vendors (cause they're "businesspeople"). "disclaimer" my opinion only ;-) (wink) maggie ------------------------------ From: Kristina Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:39:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: gocco printer On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Shalanna (Denise) Weeks wrote: > I would love to know what people think of this, as well. It sounds like > the only way I would ever reliably be able to make more than one of a card > that looks anything like the others, short of doing on the > electronic paste-up system (and that would be cheating!) Tell us what > you like about your Gocco!! My girlfriend bought one of these to make invitations. By the end she was ready to pull her hair out (but she got really fancy with them, even embossed the front). I think it'd be a worthwhile purchase if you plan on making a LOT of the same card, but it seems like a big investment (around $100.00). Maybe you could ask your local stamp store owners if they know of someone who might want to sell theirs at a used discount? Put a sign up at the store, with their permission, saying you're looking to buy a used gocco. Or maybe you could rent one from the store, just to see what it is like. I also don't know how much the light bulbs, inks, and plates cost -- the cost of making just 5 of the same card might be ugly. I know you need a new plate for each "burn" and I think you need a new lightbulb as well. From what I remember Dee doing, once she burned an image she needed to replace the lightbulb. Don't take that as gospel though, I didn't pay much attention to what she was doing at the time, it just seemed like a pain in the ass. But I know some people LOVE their goccos, so it sounds like a personal thing. I just can't get past the price tag itself. :) It's something I recommend you try before you buy. Kristina RubberDaemon - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- trying to read andrade@az.com the greek upon the stars http://www.az.com/~andrade ------------------------------ From: deeni@juno.com (Denise L Brawn) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 06:36:09 PST Subject: Re: RS- Official Earth & Sky Co Sign me up tooo!!! Tigger (Deeni) On 4 Feb 1997 18:26:38 -0700 "Rachael Innes" writes: > Hi everyone! > The Earth & Collage Swap is a go!!! > So, here's the official info. > >NAME OF SWAP: Earth & Sky Collage Swap >HOSTED BY: Rachael Innes >EMAIL: Rachael_Innes@trw.com >DUE DATE: April 12th, 1997 >STATUS: **OPEN** >DETAILS: Create a collaged piece (card or >other) with the theme Earth & Sky. > I'm very loose with this interpretation but >am envisioning an "earthy" > or "primitive" or "celestial" type feeling. > Of course you may envision > something else and that's okay too. > Send in 6 items get 5 in return (extra for >hostess :-) ** ). > Multiple sets are okay if there are enough >players. > Include stamp credits and embossing powder >credits if > desired. >MAILING INFO: Include an addressed return mailing label. I'll take >care of envy's or boxes if needed. > Send in postage equal to what it cost you to >mail to me plus > a few extra stamps. (This may be a heavier >swap or require boxes since > it is collage swap, so if you could send in >a bit more than normal just in > case, that would be great, and if they >aren't needed, I'll return them to you.) > >**Note: The extra for hostess is not a firm requirement. Please >don't let it stop you from signing up if you would like to >participate. > > >Those who are currently signed up. I will be sending personal >acknowledgement messages >tomorrow after I confirm some of your email addresses. > >Connie Houser >Suki >Shauna (poong) >Debbie Bergen >Cynthia Sillitoe >Karen Glover > >That's it! >Rachael :-) > > > ------------------------------ From: ConnieKo@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:24:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fwd: Favorite Chalk Techniques? - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Favorite Chalk Techniques? Date: 97-02-04 12:47:50 EST From: ConnieKo To: jayhawk@wasatch.com@mail.wasatch.com CC: rubberstampers@firewall.genie.com Rachel, My experience with chalks is limited to chalk pastels. Would that be the same thing you are using in your class? In conventional art stores, these are sold in the most familiar stick form like Alphacolors or Rembrandts. The downside of using sticks is the mess involved. I've never worked with pastels without having it all over me. Pastels are also available in pencil form. Pastel pencils allow you to apply the color in both large and small areas with no-muss, no-fuss. You can color in an area, add another color next to it, and softly blend the two with a facial tissue or blending stump. I've been using it for larger areas such as a sky background because it is easy to softly work color together. You can also correct easily, because it can be wiped off most papers (not completely, but mostly) for a fresh start. Or you can apply color, blend, add more, blend. It's workable until sprayed. Fixatives run the gamut from Krylon Fixative to Grumbacher Tuffilm to the most readily available, hairspray. I hear art teachers even recommend the cheaper, the better on hairspray brands. Anyone no longer foofing since Grapevine, send that cheap hairspray to somebody who needs it. The dry chalkiness of pastels seems to be easier to control than many wet forms of color, so it is a good next step for someone wanting to try another technique. Besides, most of us have applied make-up in some powdery form or another, so it's not completely foreign. Good quality pastels cost more than colored pencils. A few good brands include Bruynzeel, Conte, and Derwent. I've shared some Bruynzeel pastels with a few people on the list, so they may have an opinion on using pastel pencils in card making. Okay, now, what was that original question? ConnieKoch ------------------------------ From: Lisa Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:50:28 -0500 Subject: NEW Confetti Swap!! - Update NAME OF SWAP: Confetti Swap HOSTED BY: Lisa (InkyPaws) at chatty@erols.com ITEMS INFO: 3 bags for 3 bags....or 6 for 6, 9 for 9. (groups of 3) THEME/DETAILS: Bags of confetti....Any kind! Any color! (Bag = 1/2 ounce) MAILING INFO: SAML and as much postage as it takes to send. POSTMARKED BY: February 22nd. These will be put together and mailed on March 1st! No ifs ands, or, buts! So...if you want to play, play early! Participants so far..... Lisa - InkyPaws *RECIEVED Linda Lewis Lori Blaauw *RECIEVED Lisa Wynn *RECIEVED Paula Jo Green Michelle Drabek *RECIEVED Cheryl Simmers Cynthia Sillitoe Lynda Jean Lutz *RECIEVED Elaine Morgan Debbie Debbie Davenport *RECIEVED Jolene Kathy M. Pearl *RECIEVED MonarchStamper Tonya Rilling *RECIEVED Katchoo Joan E. Ginsberg Janice Rollin *RECIEVED Nicole Humphrey Inklet Michelle Cobb Michelle Rosemary Torres Michelle Bengtson *RECIEVED Mary Franklin You?? ------------------------------ End of rubberstampers Digest V2 #256 ************************************ To subscribe to rubberstampers Digest, send the command: subscribe rubberstampers-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-rubberstampers": subscribe rubberstampers-digest local-rubberstampers@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "rubberstampers-digest" in the commands above with "rubberstampers". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/rubberstampers/archive. 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