From: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com To: rubberstampers-digest@xmission.com Subject: rubberstampers Digest V2 #291 Reply-To: rubberstampers@xmission.com Errors-To: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com Precedence: rubberstampers Digest Sunday, 16 February 1997 Volume 02 : Number 291 In this issue: Web Site Update RS: Idea/Pattern swap Re: Duplicate messages ROLLERGRAPH WHEELS by Clearsnap Re: RS: PULLING MY HAIR OUT!!!! RS: SWAP HELP! RE: GIGGLES Number 2 Re: RS Good Glue? Re: Some of my messages are duplicating RS: Appleton's 1st Midwest Magic Stamp Convention [none] RS: SEASHELL CARD SWAP Re: RS: PULLING MY HAIR OUT!!!! Watercolor PC Swap Update 2/16 Re: RS: Make Own Copy of Swap Cards? Re: RS:Pergamano & Parchment Watercolor PC Swap Update 2/16 Re: Some of my messages are duplicating E-mail problems tan:re: Internet Access Fee, FCC, etc. See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the rubberstampers or rubberstampers-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jutta Hood Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 02:16:27 -0800 Subject: Web Site Update I have upgraded my web site to a 9 page site. Included on the new web pages are the following items of interest: Who we are Wood Mount Sizing Chart Wood Mount prices Cushion and Indexing prices Hologram prices Corrugated Paper prices Textured Paper prices Grab Bags Available & Prices Just Plain Fun stuff _____________________________________________________________________ visit my website at: http://www.wolfenet.com/~jutta StampHound a.k.a. Hood's Woods ------------------------------ From: "Nicole Humphrey, Imagination Station" Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:53:14 -0700 Subject: RS: Idea/Pattern swap OFFICIAL IDEA AND PATTERN SWAP HOSTED BY: Nicole Humphrey EMail addy: istation@cyberhighway.net ITEMS INFO: This is where the easy part comes in. One item that teaches us something about rubber stamping. It can be a technique, a pattern, (box, card or otherwise), or an idea. For instance, I have instructions on how to do various cards, I will use those for this swap. It must be typed (or photocopied). Send the one item, plus $1.00 for ten new items back or $2.00 for 20 new items back (unless you don't want any items back). This swap is easy and anyone can participate, even non-newbies. =) THEME/DETAILS: Something that has to do with Rubber Stamping MAILING INFO: In your swap package include a SAML and $1.00 postage (stamps, cash (please no checks)). My snail mail addy is as follows: Nicole Humphrey PO Box 41131 Mesa, AZ 85274 Signup: Open until February 25th. Postmark: In my mailbox by March 1st, items to be sent back no later than March 5! Let me know if you are interested! =) Happy Stamping Nicole Signed up so far: Jolene JIrvine603@aol.com Bonnie Gard E-Gard@ix.netcom.com Erin Puffenberger erinpuff@juno.com Shellie fujette@hehe.com Karen Glover kglover@juno.com Kathi MemoryMake@aol.com Betsy Ritter ritter@mail2.nai.net Stephanie Manifold stephaniemanifold@juno.com Cissy STATX5@aol.com Punkie Bagdon tclk@juno.com Donna Grady DGRADY@us.oracle.com Holli Smith-Boyd holli@mindspring.com You here?? ------------------------------ From: Shannon Green Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:45:01 -0600 Subject: Re: Duplicate messages You let him touch your stuff??!! That's taboo around my house. Of course my husband has about as much desire to take up stamping as I do to learn how to play golf. At 08:04 PM 2/15/97 -0700, jodi hansen wrote: >Yes on both parts, I am getting a lot of duplicate mail and my husband is >getting a little huffy too.:) Although I caught him reading this list >today.:) He actually really likes to rubber stamp and is very good at it, >unfortunately better than me. For Valentines we stayed up until 2:00 >stamping, he made some for the swaps even.:) > >Jodi > > ------------------------------ From: stampcrazy@juno.com (Sue A Bell) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:26:53 PST Subject: ROLLERGRAPH WHEELS by Clearsnap Rollergraph wheels by Clearsnap have a wonderful wealth of uses. I teach an entire class using these wonderful stamps. 1. Wrapping paper - a super quick way to roll white sacks and make nifty gift bags. Add a rolled edge of white tissue paper to match. Roll the edge of a 3 x 5 index card and you have a matching set of gift bag, tissue, and gift tag. 2. Greeting Cards - Several of the rollers make wonderful cards. The vertical helium balloon roller is used and featured in the Clearsnap catalog, along with several other cards made from rollers. I've rolled the floral rollers along the edge of white cards and made beautiful borders. 3. No more NAKED ENVELOPES I have the theory that the postal workers just might take a bit better care of my mail if I spice it up a bit. So I NEVER send out a NAKED ENVELOPE. I keep my roller on the desk and roll across the bottom of all envelopes that leave my hands. At the beginning of every month, I roll several envelopes of the two sizes I use most and keep these on hand for mailing bills, etc. 4. Cheap stationary You can roll across the top of typing paper and across the bottom of your envelope and have super quick stationary for every occassion. 5. Beautiful embossed wrapping paper Clearsnap sells uninked cartridges. You can then make up your own color combinations. The Paintbox that Clearsnap sells was made for the rollergraphs. You roll across the top of the pad and it is the exact size of the roller. This is great for rolling anything that is just that size, but sometimes I want to have the designs much longer than that. I have used the embossing ink refill and put it on one of the uninked cartridges. Then when you roll across the wrapping paper, you can emboss the whole thing. 6. Frames The woodgrain roller makes a beautiful frame for your stamping. I've made watercolor scenes and then put them in a woodgrain frame and they have turned out very neat. Lots of the floral rollers also make neat frames for you stamping creations. I know I've used these for more than this, but have gone braindead at the moment. StampCrazy ------------------------------ From: DS Whitebirch Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:11:40 PST Subject: Re: RS: PULLING MY HAIR OUT!!!! Addressed to: jimq@teleport.com rubberstampers@list.genie.com ** Reply to note from James Quinto Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:08:01 -0800 Hi Kari, you wrote: > Ok, I'm soo frusterated with this tecnique I can't think straight!!!! > Has anyone used the rubber cement thing that Dee Gruenig does? You're > supposed to "swish" some rubber cement on a glossy postcard. Let it dry and > with your brayer and an ink pad (or marvy marker streaked on your brayer), go > over the whole post card. Supposedly this is only supposed to dry overnight > and then you can take your rubber cement remover and remove your rubber > cement. MY PROBLEM: My ink never ever ever dries! I've left it there for > days and it still doesn't dry over the rubber cement. When I try to remove > the cement with the remover, I end up with a big messy mess! I've tried Dee > Gruenig's idea of brayering a rainbow pad over a glossy postcard and then > using cement and then brayering over it again with black marvy ink on my > brayer. This is not working! HELP!! Does this tecnique work for anyone - > please help, I'm soo frusterated! > Kari Please stop pulling out your hair. You've asked the right group about this, let's see if I can offer any help. I have this video and was one of the people invited to see Dee do a demonstration for this video. After reading your post, I have a couple of questions for you: 1) What type of paper are you using? 2) What type of inkpad are you using? If you are using glossy cardstock and a pigment inkpad, there is the problem. Pigment ink will NEVER dry on glossy stock. The ink needs to be embossed! Or you will need to use matte cardstock. If this is not the case, I'll look for a reply from you in which the questions are answered. Maybe after learning the particulars of your problem, I, or someone else, can offer other help. Sheryl ------------------------------ From: stampatti@juno.com (Patti Welsh) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:22:07 EST Subject: RS: SWAP HELP! I have a note that I'm signed up for something due 4/5, but can't find any other info on that date. Does anyone with a swap due on 4/5 have my name on your list? If so, please let me know what I'm doing? Also, I signed up for a PIG SWAP due on 3/27. Hostess Debbie Bergen. I seems to have lost all other info on this one. Debbie can you send me the details again? I won't lose them this time. Promise. StamPatti, vsa & vsr Computers are life. Rubberstamping is art. TV is furniture! http://members.wbs.net/homepages/s/t/a/stampatti.html ------------------------------ From: mlracer@ix.netcom.com (LAWRENCE JAMES LITTLE) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:08:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: RE: GIGGLES Number 2 Quick, stop reading and say a quick prayer for Linda, again. InkyAngel ------------------------------ From: Melissa Moon Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:23:54 EST Subject: Re: RS Good Glue? > Glenyce wrote: >From: gmork >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:40:09 -0700 >Subject: Good glue?? > >Good morning everyone! >Can you guys tell me the best glue you've found to do layering onto >cardstock. I use some cheapo no name stuff and it sticks, it just seems >to warp the cardtock. >TIA, >Glenyce > I'm still fairly new to this, but isn't this what people use a Rollataq for? When I first came on the list there had just been a discussion and on them and some large order made. I saw one at our local RS store (but as everything is overpriced there I always look for what I want and then check with our wonderful vendors here :-) and it appears that it spreads out glue in a nice wide swath but not too much at once. I'm planning to get one sometime... but lately my RS spending has been a bit too wild . Melissa Moongoddess ------------------------------ From: Shannon Green Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:29:08 -0600 Subject: Re: Some of my messages are duplicating The sad part about it is that I have a spell checker on my email program. I'm just too lazy to go up there and click on it. At 06:23 PM 2/16/97 +0000, Elaine Morgan wrote: >LOL Shannon...You did spell that wrong...be like me...have a little >dictionary by the computer..not know how to spell a word...and can't >look it up...because you don't know how to spell it. LOL > >Your mail was very effective...nicely said...and well put.. It got >through..the last 8 I looked at said *no message collected* or was >blank. > >Elaine >Inkynails >Carpe Diem! > >Shannon Green wrote: >> >> I've noticed a lot of people posting concerns about duplicate messages and >> empty messages. I just accept this as one of those internet burps that we >> really can't do anything about, no one is responsible for them, and we just >> have to deal with them 'till that great server in the sky gets over its >> heartburn. The duplicate messages I get have nothing to do with the cc's >> because they weren't directed to me in the first place. It's moderately >> annoying because of the volume of mail we have to deal with, but I wouldn't >> expend too much energy worrying about it. It always seems to take care of >> itself eventually. And because of the duplicate messages, if I get an >> empty message it usually comes through later in its entirity. I don't >> think I spelled that right. >> >> Shannon >> >> At 10:48 AM 2/16/97 -0800, James Quinto wrote: >> >Some of my messages that I send are duplicating. I swear I'm not posting >> them more than once!! I've noticed this happening to other people too. >> Hope I'm not doing anything wrong. >> >Kari >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ From: mlracer@ix.netcom.com (LAWRENCE JAMES LITTLE) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:00:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: RS: Appleton's 1st Midwest Magic Stamp Convention Here is the info I have right now. I will try to get more info out to you soon. I have no affiliation with this store besides being a customer and a member of the Magic Stampers Club. The "Magic" part comes in because the great magician and escape artist Harry Houdini lived here. Dates: July 26 & 27th (Sat & Sun) Where: Appleton, WI 25 miles from Green Bay Contact: Oscar's Premier Rubber Stamp Headquarters 817 North Casaloma Drive Appleton, WI 54914 (414) 731-4464 e-mail: RubberRox@aol.com this person is a board member of the Stamp Club and may or may not have vendor info for you. I will try to get info to post to you. Oscar's said she'd welcome any interested queries. Hope this helps. InkyAngel ------------------------------ From: owner-rubberstampers@xmission.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:16:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ From: gardner@datastar.net (R. Gardner) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:36:27 -0600 Subject: RS: SEASHELL CARD SWAP This swap is due Feb. 20th!!! If you can't get your cards to me then please let me know. >Subject: RS: SEASHELL CARD SWAP >> >>Hi All! >>This swap is going real well. Lots of people have signed up so there will >be a big variety of cards! Beleive me...I have gotten some beautiful cards >in already! :) >>SEASHELL CARD SWAP >>HOSTED BY: becky-bear >>E-MAIL ADDY: gardner@datastar.net >>DUE DATE: Feb.2oth >>DETAILS: send 5 get 5 back. cards, postcards etc. Have a seashell >somewhere on card. Send SAML and 1.oo in postage. No deadline on signing >up, BUT must have cards to me by Feb. 2oth. A gift for all who join. >>Participants so far: >>Lisa -chatt@erols.com >>Princess stamperfoot >>Tonya Trilling - received >>Diane White >>Mary Elfsatti >>Ginny >>Wifey girl >>Bonnie "Lass" >>Lori Blaaw >>StampinSis >>Cheryl Long - received >>Robin Moore >>Cathie Mulder >>Wendy >>Lisa-Stampher2@aol.com >>Julie Hall >>Jen >>Anglheart >>rubberjunkie - received >>Linda Sue >>Kate - received >>Shannon Green >>Beth Womack >>Stmpngrma >>Cindy Piet Isastamper >>Susan aka Gingerstamp >>LadyRoslyn >>Marie >>Sharon Katz >>Janice >>Linda Skirvin >Me >If you're not on this list, don't worry. As long as you send your >cards...you'll get cards back! :) I may have missed some names. >> >becky-bear >gardner@datastar.net >***************************** >If the whole world followed you, >followed you to the letter... >Tell me...if it followed you, >Would the world be better? > *writer unknown* > > > becky-bear gardner@datastar.net ***************************** If the whole world followed you, followed you to the letter... Tell me...if it followed you, Would the world be better? *writer unknown* ------------------------------ From: GGMCCOR@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:55:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: RS: PULLING MY HAIR OUT!!!! In a message dated 97-02-16 18:13:37 EST, jimq@teleport.com (James Quinto) writes: << I've tried Dee Gruenig's idea of brayering a rainbow pad over a glossy postcard and then using cement and then brayering over it again with black marvy ink on my brayer. This is not working! HELP!! Does this tecnique work for anyone - please help, I'm soo frusterated! Kari >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Yes, I can work. I used it for my cards in the X-Files swap. Do your rubber cement design on the cardstock. I used a plain matte stock. Then let it dry. Overnight is good but not usually necessary. Then color over with your ink. Let dry again. *Then*, and this is probably wherein your problem lies; take a kleenex and wipe gently over the area the rubber cement is. You're not taking off the cement at this point but the ink sitting on it. Go over it a couple of times, just in case. Now you can start picking up the rubber cement. And use the pick up in an up and down motion, or as close as you can. Let me know is this does the trick. Feathers ------------------------------ From: meverett@madison.k12.wi.us (mona everett (Poste Haste)) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:00:35 -0100 Subject: Watercolor PC Swap Update 2/16 Due date for this swap was 2/14 and I have several sets. I know a couple of people have dropped, but need to hear if anyone else has just mailed theirs or will be mailing them in the next few days. I will send a separate e mail to all listed participants inquiring also, and will list who I have cards from. But I know some people may just be sending crds in--and that is ok--I don't want to make the swap if cards are still on the way, but would like to get these swapped out this week. Thanks. Mona Poste Haste ------------------------------ From: pjdesigns1@juno.com (Paula Jo Green) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:10:40 EST Subject: Re: RS: Make Own Copy of Swap Cards? I keep all the swap projects (except convention pins) in binders. I have them organized by swap. It's fun to look through them to get ideas. But also to see the progress your own stamping has made. When I look back at the first projects I made and compare them to the ones I make now I can see alot of growth. The pins I trade at conventions I display in my stamping room. On one door, I have 2 inexpensive curtain rods. I then took some fabric and sewed a hem (casing) on the top and bottom edges. I put the curtain rods through the casing and attached it to the door. The fabric is gathered. The pins are pinned onto the fabric. It sure dresses up a plain white door! DG Stamper (Domestic Goddess Stamper) ------------------------------ From: Robin Swaby Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:54:18 -0500 Subject: Re: RS:Pergamano & Parchment > For anyone interested : Parchment craft began in 15th century medieval > Spanish Cloisters. It is a method used to decorate parchment by > piercing and dry embossing. The Pergamano paper from Europe is the > best. It can also be stamped and embossed. Add the two together for a > lovely affect. > I will have the Pergamano parchment papers, tools and Books on the > subject by other publishing houses,(discounted) available sometime next> month. E-mail me personally if you are interested. > Robin-nibor nibor@dnet.net ------------------------------ From: meverett@madison.k12.wi.us (mona everett (Poste Haste)) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:00:35 -0100 Subject: Watercolor PC Swap Update 2/16 Due date for this swap was 2/14 and I have several sets. I know a couple of people have dropped, but need to hear if anyone else has just mailed theirs or will be mailing them in the next few days. I will send a separate e mail to all listed participants inquiring also, and will list who I have cards from. But I know some people may just be sending crds in--and that is ok--I don't want to make the swap if cards are still on the way, but would like to get these swapped out this week. Thanks. Mona Poste Haste ------------------------------ From: Elaine Morgan Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:23:25 +0000 Subject: Re: Some of my messages are duplicating LOL Shannon...You did spell that wrong...be like me...have a little dictionary by the computer..not know how to spell a word...and can't look it up...because you don't know how to spell it. LOL Your mail was very effective...nicely said...and well put.. It got through..the last 8 I looked at said *no message collected* or was blank. Elaine Inkynails Carpe Diem! Shannon Green wrote: > > I've noticed a lot of people posting concerns about duplicate messages and > empty messages. I just accept this as one of those internet burps that we > really can't do anything about, no one is responsible for them, and we just > have to deal with them 'till that great server in the sky gets over its > heartburn. The duplicate messages I get have nothing to do with the cc's > because they weren't directed to me in the first place. It's moderately > annoying because of the volume of mail we have to deal with, but I wouldn't > expend too much energy worrying about it. It always seems to take care of > itself eventually. And because of the duplicate messages, if I get an > empty message it usually comes through later in its entirity. I don't > think I spelled that right. > > Shannon > > At 10:48 AM 2/16/97 -0800, James Quinto wrote: > >Some of my messages that I send are duplicating. I swear I'm not posting > them more than once!! I've noticed this happening to other people too. > Hope I'm not doing anything wrong. > >Kari > > > > ------------------------------ From: pjdesigns1@juno.com (Paula Jo Green) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:10:40 EST Subject: E-mail problems Okay, I guess it is finally my turn for this to happen. ARGH!!!!!!! For 3 days now I have been getting 3/4ths of my messages either blank or the message "No Mail Collected" in the body of the message. Really irritating when I see great subject lines of messages that I really what to read!!! DG Stamper ------------------------------ From: Carol Perkins Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:24:46 +0000 Subject: tan:re: Internet Access Fee, FCC, etc. >Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:14:00 PST >From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) >Subject: FCC Solicits Comments? > >(This is from Patrick Crispin's TOURBUS. This is a new perspective on >the mail going around the net asking for comments to the FCC. Tad >Cook tad@ssc.com) > >FEAR AND LOATHING AT THE FCC > >Over the past couple of weeks, you may have received e-mail letters telling >you that: > > Many local telephone companies have filed a proposal with the FCC > [The United States' Federal Communications Commission] to impose > per minute charges for Internet service. They contend that use > of Internet has or will hinder the operation of the telephone > network. > >At first, I thought that this was simply a new version of the old >"modem tax" hoax (http://www.eff.org/papers/eegtti/eeg_83.html#SEC84) >that has been floating around the Net since *1987*. After all, the >current FCC story has all of the markings of a classic urban legend: > > 1. It uses official-looking language; > > 2. It mentions a government agency or an organization with > which everyone is familiar; > > 3. It contains a plea for you to take some sort of immediate > action; and > > 4. It requests that you forward the warning letter to as many > people as possible. > >Besides, according to an article that appeared in this morning's Edupage, > > ONLINE COMPANIES ASK TELCOS, "WHERE'S THE BEEF?" > Tired of telephone companies' complaints that Internet usage is > overwhelming their network capacity, the Internet Access > Coalition has released findings contending that Net usage is, in > reality, a bonanza for the Bells. The study found that local > carriers received a total of $1.4 billion in 1995 in revenues > resulting from the installation of second lines in homes, while > spending only $245 million to beef up their networks for the > additional usage. A Bell Atlantic spokesman says the real > problem is that the telcos have no idea when a line will be used > for data rather than voice, and thus tied up longer. Both sides > agree that the ultimate solution is higher capacity networks. > (Business Week 17 Feb 97) > >Well, out of curiosity -- and out of a deep-felt desire to avoid >studying for the two major economics tests that I have next week -- >your fearless bus driver decided to call the FCC in Washington to see >if anyone there was willing to talk about this rather explosive issue. >Unfortunately, I soon discovered that the FCC only has one employee, >she is a secretary, and her job is to transfer all incoming telephone >calls into voice mail hell. :) > >Actually, I talked to some nice people at the FCC who faxed me a ten >page explanation of what's *really* going on. Unfortunately, the ten >page explanation was written in "FCC-ese," so I am going to have to >translate their explanation into English for you (and I can assure you >that, since I know *NOTHING* about telephony, my translation will >probably contain a few inaccuracies; if it does, please let me know). > >First, some local telephone companies have indeed asked the FCC to >allow them to assess a per minute access charge on the telephone lines >used by Internet Service Providers. Local telephone companies >currently charge long-distance carriers (like AT&T and MCI) an >interstate access charge for the long-distance traffic that travels >over their local lines, and the local telephone companies would like >to see this charge extended to include the high-speed lines that your >local Internet Service Provider uses to access the Internet. > >In December, the FCC rejected the telephone companies' request and >tentatively concluded "that the existing pricing structure for >information services should remain in place." In other words, the FCC >has tentatively concluded that Internet service providers should *NOT* >be subject to the interstate access charges that local telephone >companies currently assess on long-distance carriers. > >The FCC now seeks the public's comments on this conclusion. > >Unfortunately, the "warning" letter that is currently circulating >around the Internet gives the impression that some sort of sinister >operation is afoot here, that the FCC and the telephone companies are >trying to sneak this proposal through without anyone noticing, and >that it is up to each and every one of us to stop the evil FCC. > >What garbage. In fact, the FCC has, at least tentatively, REJECTED >the telephone companies' proposal. The FCC is now simply asking you >if you agree or disagree with their decision. > >The most disappointing aspect of this whole situation is that because >of the misinformation that has been distributed across the Internet >over the past couple of weeks, the FCC has received 100,000+ e-mail >letters, most of which flame them for making a decision that EVERYONE >AGREES WITH! Hands down, the flaming of the FCC is one of the >Internet's most shameful acts ever. > >I also discovered another thing about the FCC that increased my >respect for their organization one-hundred-fold. Part of the ten-page >explanation that the FCC sent me states that their "existing rules >have been designed for traditional circuit-switched voice networks, >and thus may hinder the development of emerging packet-switched data >networks." Because of this, the FCC is also seeking the public's >comments on the implications of the Internet and its usage through the >public switched telephone network. > >Folks, *ANY* government agency that stops and says 'hey, we can ALWAYS >use some more information so that we are better prepared for whatever >happens in the future' has earned my respect and admiration. > >By the way, most of the information that I have shared with you today can >be found on the FCC's "ISP" homepage at: > > http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html > >If you would like to send your comments to the folks at the FCC (the >deadline for comments about their decision not to impose interstate >access changes on Internet service providers is Friday, February >14th), make sure that you check the FCC's ISP Web page first. At the >bottom of this page are some pretty specific instructions on what you >need to put in the subject line of you e-mail letter before you submit >it to the FCC. > >Personally, I'm going to leave the poor folks at the FCC alone for a >while. They seem to be doing a great job in the face of unnecessary >(and misinformed) opposition. > >====================================================================== > Join : Send SUBSCRIBE TOURBUS Your Name to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Leave : Send SIGNOFF TOURBUS to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Info : On the Web at http://www.worldvillage.com/tourbus.htm > ------------------------------ End of rubberstampers Digest V2 #291 ************************************ To subscribe to rubberstampers Digest, send the command: subscribe rubberstampers-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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