From: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com To: rubberstampers-digest@xmission.com Subject: rubberstampers Digest V2 #316 Reply-To: rubberstampers@xmission.com Errors-To: rubberstampers-owner@xmission.com Precedence: rubberstampers Digest Tuesday, 18 February 1997 Volume 02 : Number 316 In this issue: TAN Is anyone out there? Re: RS:longTAN: Efforts in Stamping / Life RS: Dream Swap Update Re: RS Judging swap cards (guessing here) Re: Do you judge the quality of cards in swaps Re: RS: Stamping On Wood RS:TAN: The Rubberstamping novel writer? Re: RS Judging swap cards (guessing here) Re: Do you judge the quality of cards in swaps Re: RS: judging swap cards RS: PotW Vellum Intermediate Re: RS: EP RS: Dream Swap Update Re: RS 2/22 San Mateo meeting Empty Messages MARKS OF DISTINCTION Attending the SM Convention? Please read this! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the rubberstampers or rubberstampers-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DebbieD237@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:54:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: TAN Is anyone out there? Hey rubberstampers, Is anyone out there? I signed on this morning and I haven't received any mail for over 12 hours, really unusual. I resubscribed but still haven't received a reply about that either, I feel like I'm lost in cyberspace!!! DebbieD237@aol.com MiracleStamper ------------------------------ From: Janet Detter Margul Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:21:12 -0600 Subject: Re: RS:longTAN: Efforts in Stamping / Life Thanks for that story. Not only does it make me feel good I'm not the only one who TANs out with stories, but I could SEE your Shelby and felt so proud of her, too. And yes, she WOULD tell you she's not a preemie anymore. Just like mine who, after typing to Dad Frank in chat last night about her physics grade, snarled at me "do you have to tell all your little friends about my grades?" Answer? Yes. Do encourage Shelby in the astrophysics. It does pay more than cheerleading. Just don't let her speak with TB, who advised a deliverman yesterday, if he was concerned about his children's education and grades, to help them avoid physics classes. (I can't stand it. I have to tell. She is making a 93 this six weeks. Up from a 74 she struggled to get. YAY!) Proud moms, unite! ========================================================================= Janet Detter Margul | Real women don't have hot flashes... WeeBe Graphics Plano, Texas | they have power surges! ========================================================================= * * * janet@plano.net * * * janet.npc@genie.com * * * NEW web pages with a new address: http://www.dallas.net/~janet/index.html ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: Shannon Green Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:51:15 -0600 Subject: RS: Dream Swap Update NAME OF SWAP: Dream Swap HOSTED BY: Shannon Green ITEMS INFO: 5 for 5 cards or postcards. Put your name and email address on the back of each card. THEME DETAILS: Any "intrepretation" goes. Stamp a good dream, bad dream, funny dream, chocolate dream, a dream you once had, a dream you wish you'd have, or just stamp something dreamy! MAILING INFO: SAML + equivalent postage. Hostess will provide the return envelope and a card for all players. POSTMARKED BY: April 1 NEWBIES: Sign up for this one! You can use any type stamps you have on hand. A toaster oven stamped on a cloud background could be considered a dream! PLAYERS: ConnieKoch connieko@aol.com Cynthia cynthia@ionet.net Danielle mdziama@monroe.lib.mi.us Debra dtucker@cisco.com Jonni inklus@harborside.com Lissa perlis@dsuper.net Lynn in Akron llewis@akron.ohio.gov Mary moviefan@juno.com Rubberbreeze~~~ caulkins@cdsnet.net Shannon sgreen@wf.net You!! C'mon...your dreams can't be any weirder than mine!! ------------------------------ From: Janet Detter Margul Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:28:23 -0600 Subject: Re: RS Judging swap cards (guessing here) At 06:34 AM 2/18/97 -0600, barbiec@ebicom.net wrote: (asking about cards not worthy of inclusion) > Okay Janet, what would you do with these? Send them back, or send them out? >It may be as good as the person is, and not that they were in a hurry.. > Just wondering, what would happen in a situation like this. This is part of >what I wrote about when I said I have heard of hostess returning swaps. ME? I'd send out everything. I can't tell by looking what took a lot of effort and what took a little bit. I don't think there's any way of knowing how much effort something takes. And, uh, is the point of swaps EFFORT? It isn't to me. My priority is seeing how other people interpret the theme, picking up new techniques, getting inspired again by someone else's way of seeing and expressing. I think the only person who can judge appropriate effort is the swap participant. And, uh, I've done swaps where my amount of effort was pathetic, but my technique masked that so I was still pleased with the cards I sent out. I have never heard of ANY swap host on this list EVER sending back anything with a "not good enough." I know some won't wait on you (and good for them, wish that was a skill I had, I'd host a lot more swaps!) but that's not the same thing at all. Look. Not every card will appeal to everybody. Not all of them appeal to me. But I feel pretty comfortable the ones that don't appeal to me DID appeal to who sent them, and that's good enough for me. I send out everything. And I rave about everything, there is value in it all if we just look. (Am I a mass of conflicts today or what? Not everything is good. Everything has value. It's art if you say it's art. Not everything is art, no matter what you say. So, like, pick out the stuff I've said you like and discard the rest.) ========================================================================= Janet Detter Margul | Real women don't have hot flashes... WeeBe Graphics Plano, Texas | they have power surges! ========================================================================= * * * janet@plano.net * * * janet.npc@genie.com * * * NEW web pages with a new address: http://www.dallas.net/~janet/index.html ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: Impressionable@vval.com (Kathy A. Nakata) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:02:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Do you judge the quality of cards in swaps LadyRoslyn@aol.com,Internet-Vval.com writes: >I feel if you can't MAKE a real effort on making your cards, please don't do >the swaps. > >All the other cards I rec'd have thought, effort and work to them. Yow! That hurts. I hope any newbies out there who are sitting on the fence wondering about participating in swaps DO NOT READ THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE. It's hard enough to encourage lurkers to come out of the shadows on the list. It's bad enough trying to get newbies to stop apologizing for their cards (I've received a lot of notes about how they think their work isn't good enough or they didn't put enough effort into them) and they are ALWAYS wrong. Their cards are always special and unique. If you choose to participate in swaps the only way to guarantee the quality of cards is up to your standard is to do all the cards yourself. And if you are going to hostess a swap and expect a certain "standard" then you better mention that up front when you announce the swap. Of course, I'm sure you didn't mean to publicly flame an individual on the list and that you were probably disappointed by someone's submission to whichever swap you participated in or hosted. But please, please, please don't post messages like this to the public list. It will only serve to discourage others from participating and you never know when you're going to learn something new - - NEWBIES AND OLDIES ALIKE! Kathy ------------------------------ From: Toni Whitesell Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:07:45 -0800 Subject: Re: RS: Stamping On Wood - ------------6E59197577F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd love to hear your review of the video -- good, bad , or "ugly". Would like to know what video it was so I wouldn't buy it. 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- ------------6E59197577F0-- ------------------------------ From: GGMCCOR@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:18:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: RS:TAN: The Rubberstamping novel writer? Once upon a time there was someone on this list who said she was authoring a book, possibly a mystery that also involved a heroine that rubberstamped. She also asked for odd mail art ideas that involved hearts, if that tickles anyones recollection of this. I know several of us posted her and asked about the book, the title, when it was due out, etc. but I never got any reply. Has anyone ever heard about this again? I'm still interested in reading that book. Feathers ------------------------------ From: barbiec@ebicom.net Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:13:04 -0600 Subject: Re: RS Judging swap cards (guessing here) LOL Janet..bless your heart..Go back to bed, that is what I am about to do..:} Thanks for the reply, I am about ready to do a swap. I think most all the ladies had good respones to this question, so I don't think I would be scared to get in them. Thanks to all the wonderful ladies who sent me the great words of encouragment. Hugs.. Ann >> Okay Janet, what would you do with these? Send them back, or send them out? >>It may be as good as the person is, and not that they were in a hurry.. >> Just wondering, what would happen in a situation like this. This is part of >>what I wrote about when I said I have heard of hostess returning swaps. > >ME? I'd send out everything. I can't tell by looking what took a lot of >effort and what took a little bit. I don't think there's any way of knowing >how much effort something takes. > >And, uh, is the point of swaps EFFORT? It isn't to me. My priority is >seeing how other people interpret the theme, picking up new techniques, >getting inspired again by someone else's way of seeing and expressing. > >I think the only person who can judge appropriate effort is the swap >participant. And, uh, I've done swaps where my amount of effort was >pathetic, but my technique masked that so I was still pleased with the >cards I sent out. > >I have never heard of ANY swap host on this list EVER sending back anything >with a "not good enough." I know some won't wait on you (and good for them, >wish that was a skill I had, I'd host a lot more swaps!) but that's not the >same thing at all. > >Look. Not every card will appeal to everybody. Not all of them appeal to >me. But I feel pretty comfortable the ones that don't appeal to me DID >appeal to who sent them, and that's good enough for me. I send out >everything. And I rave about everything, there is value in it all if we >just look. > >(Am I a mass of conflicts today or what? Not everything is good. Everything >has value. It's art if you say it's art. Not everything is art, no matter >what you say. So, like, pick out the stuff I've said you like and discard >the rest.) > >========================================================================= > Janet Detter Margul | Real women don't have hot flashes... >WeeBe Graphics Plano, Texas | they have power surges! >========================================================================= > * * * janet@plano.net * * * janet.npc@genie.com * * * >NEW web pages with a new address: http://www.dallas.net/~janet/index.html >========================================================================= > > ------------------------------ From: Impressionable@vval.com (Kathy A. Nakata) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:02:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Do you judge the quality of cards in swaps LadyRoslyn@aol.com,Internet-Vval.com writes: >I feel if you can't MAKE a real effort on making your cards, please don't do >the swaps. > >All the other cards I rec'd have thought, effort and work to them. Yow! That hurts. I hope any newbies out there who are sitting on the fence wondering about participating in swaps DO NOT READ THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE. It's hard enough to encourage lurkers to come out of the shadows on the list. It's bad enough trying to get newbies to stop apologizing for their cards (I've received a lot of notes about how they think their work isn't good enough or they didn't put enough effort into them) and they are ALWAYS wrong. Their cards are always special and unique. If you choose to participate in swaps the only way to guarantee the quality of cards is up to your standard is to do all the cards yourself. And if you are going to hostess a swap and expect a certain "standard" then you better mention that up front when you announce the swap. Of course, I'm sure you didn't mean to publicly flame an individual on the list and that you were probably disappointed by someone's submission to whichever swap you participated in or hosted. But please, please, please don't post messages like this to the public list. It will only serve to discourage others from participating and you never know when you're going to learn something new - - NEWBIES AND OLDIES ALIKE! Kathy ------------------------------ From: Debkaeding@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:26:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: RS: judging swap cards I totally agree.. I have sat down to design a card and it has taken hours and other times I can sit down and put together the most wonderful card (if I do say so myself) in less then 5 min's.. Be happy that the person was able to submit a card for that swap.. Thumper ------------------------------ From: happyrubber@juno.com (Ginny Newman) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:16:47 EST Subject: RS: PotW Vellum Intermediate The overwhelming majority vote was for Vellum and what to do with it. The project will be a cool easter card and at the end of the project, there are several other things to do with Vellum. For those who have been having trouble heat embossing on the Vellum, this is the Vellum I've got and have had no trouble with it at all. The company is called Canso and the paper comes in a pad with 50 sheets. The weight is 55 pounds. I bought my pad for $13.00, prices may vary. Vellum Easter Card What You'll Need: Piece of Vellum measuring 4 by 5 1/4 Easter type stamps (I used the two Easter eggs from Happy Rubber Stamps Happy Easter saying Pastel Makers White pigment ink (or clear emboss ink) White embossing powder Small hole punch (1/8 inch works great) Ribbon to match the colors of markers Folded card in Easter color Step-By-Step: 1. Decide how to arrange your images on the vellum. Mine was three eggs in a row, landscape on the bottom of the vellum. 2. Ink, stamp and emboss images on the Vellum. One big hint: pre-heat your embossing gun for at least one minute. You want the powder to melt fast. The ink on the vellum dries quickly and the powder may blow off the ink and melt on other places. And with the Vellum being translucent, you can see every place the powder is that it shouldn't be. 3. Turn the vellum over and color the images from the back. This gives a really nice pastel color to the project. 4. Ink, stamp, and emboss the Easter saying on the front, too. 5. Position the Vellum on the front of the open folded card and hold tightly while you punch two holes in the top left of the card and Vellum. You can also put the holes in the top middle and punch the holes through the front and back of the card and the Vellum. 6. Thread your ribbon through the holes and tie in a bow. This will keep the Vellum on the card without using glue and make a beautiful embellishment to the card. Hints and Tips: When heat embossing, always pre-heat your heat gun! Vellum can also be used to dry emboss on. Be sure you run your hand over the side of the vellum you will be embossing on. The oils and heat from your hand will make the embossing tool slide more easliy over the paper. This is important because if the tool can't slide eaily, it will bite and tear the paper (grrrrrrrr). The dry embossing will will like Pergenamo because the image will have a white cast to it. Try combining dry embossing and heat embossing for a beautiful effect. Use vellum to make envelopes! Trace your favorite envelope pattern over the vellum and cut with a craft knife. When you score the vellum, press moderately hard. The 55 pound Vellum is fairly thick and needs a bit of pressure to score. Your cards will be seen through the envelope to make the postal people smile, too! Vellum can also be use on the inside of your cards. Cut the vellum to the size of your card minus 1/8 inch on the top and one side. This will make the vellum unseen when the card is closed. Stamp or print from your computer your message and fold the vellum in half. Scoring the fold works best. Then punch 1/8 inch or smaller holes in the fold of the card and vellum and thread ribbon though to hold the vellum in place. Or use the 1/8 inch wonder tape on the inside front of the card right next to the fold line to hold the vellum in. I personally like ribbon better, as the card can be recycled by taking the vellum out and either replacing the vellum or writing a message on the card itself. You can also use the same directions as the Easter card project to make a stained glass card. Use a lead colored emboss powder and bright markers for this effect. Color on the back if the vellum and cut to 4 1/4 by 5 1/2. The folded card you choose should be cut to a frame, leaving a 3/4 inch border all around. Cut a postcard the same way with a 3/4 inch frame. When your vellum is done, use wonder tape on the inside of the folded card around the frame. Mount the vellum inside the frame and attach the postcard frame to the back of the vellum with more wonder tape (miracle tape). For a more realistic looking stained glass, sponge embossing powder over the back of the vellum and coat with clear powder. Heat just until the powder melts. You're not looking for a smooth melt. Then mount in the card. When opened, this card will look as though you actually cut glass for it. Try this same methos with glass paints instead of markers, or try a watercolor wash! The soft look the watercolor gives is amazing! How about you, what do you use vellum for? ------------------------------ From: Melissa Moon Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:31 EST Subject: Re: RS: EP Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:09:47 EST To: pennie2@juno.com (Rubber Stamp Addict) Subject: Re: RS: EP > I have a general question I'm curious about. Do differnt brand EP respond > differently? > I haven't used too many different brands. BUT what I do find with most > colored powders is the results aren't as nice as with clear or clear > based. Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong? Are some brands better > than others? > I find the colored ones I use to not have as nice of a finish. So I > almost always use pigment ink and clear to avoid the poor results I don't > like. I'd loev to hear some feedback. > > TIA > Penelope I'll add a question I've been meaning to ask too: Are some EPs better than others? I bought some unmarked generic black EP from our local RS store here, but I have been having problems with it. It seems a bit too granular, not very fine, and it sticks in places it's not supposed to stick. I use a paintbrush to wipe some away and tap the end of the brush on the back of the card to help get the rest off. Comments? Blessed be. Melissa Moongoddess ------------------------------ From: Shannon Green Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:51:15 -0600 Subject: RS: Dream Swap Update NAME OF SWAP: Dream Swap HOSTED BY: Shannon Green ITEMS INFO: 5 for 5 cards or postcards. Put your name and email address on the back of each card. THEME DETAILS: Any "intrepretation" goes. Stamp a good dream, bad dream, funny dream, chocolate dream, a dream you once had, a dream you wish you'd have, or just stamp something dreamy! MAILING INFO: SAML + equivalent postage. Hostess will provide the return envelope and a card for all players. POSTMARKED BY: April 1 NEWBIES: Sign up for this one! You can use any type stamps you have on hand. A toaster oven stamped on a cloud background could be considered a dream! PLAYERS: ConnieKoch connieko@aol.com Cynthia cynthia@ionet.net Danielle mdziama@monroe.lib.mi.us Debra dtucker@cisco.com Jonni inklus@harborside.com Lissa perlis@dsuper.net Lynn in Akron llewis@akron.ohio.gov Mary moviefan@juno.com Rubberbreeze~~~ caulkins@cdsnet.net Shannon sgreen@wf.net You!! C'mon...your dreams can't be any weirder than mine!! ------------------------------ From: "Blaauw, Lori" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:05:00 -0800 Subject: Re: RS 2/22 San Mateo meeting What meeting? Who? How? I want to play too, but I will be working! Come by and see me! ---------- From: NanStamps@aol.com To: WubbuWu@aol.com; rubberstampers@firewall.genie.net; wendie.wu@wellsfargo.com Subject: Re: RS 2/22 San Mateo meeting Date: Monday, February 17, 1997 11:31AM >I'll be there on Saturday only. How 'bout 11:30am for a meeting time.I know >one of our list vendors offered their booth as a meeting place, but my kids >tossed out the note. Was it NanStamps? Indeed it was. 11:30 should be OK. I'll be there all day, so I'm flexible. :-) Sheryl (of HALOS) and I look forward to seeing y'all! NanStamps ------------------------------ From: "Linda Isarael" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 20:11:46 UT Subject: Empty Messages I keep geting emply messages. I think others are also. I don't have a lot of messages just a few. Is there something I need to do? Please let me know. Linda A. Israel ------------------------------ From: valobra Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:50:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: MARKS OF DISTINCTION Some of you asked about the cost of Marks of Distinction Catalog. Yes it is REALLY 10.00. Yes I agree its quite expensive. Yes it IS a whole sale only company. I got lucky and was allowed to buy only one catalog when I visited the owner at his "factory". Nothing fancy about the catalog like Rubber Moon. I think its about 250 page or something. -*valobra*- e-mail address: valobra@xroads.com MOTD: priority in my life.... Friends. ------------------------------ From: "Blaauw, Lori" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:37:00 -0800 Subject: Attending the SM Convention? Please read this! I am planning to have an afterconvention dinner get together at my house on Saturday, 2/22 after the convention. We will have a chip in pizza dinner, talk and show off what treasures we have gotten. There can even be some stamping going on (not too late coz some of us are going back to do it all again on Sunday). If any of you are planning to come - I live in Mtn View, about 20 +/- miles from the convention center - please RSVP. It will be fun and a chance to get to know other list people. Pass the word to other vendors who might want to come and meet everyone also. For directions and to RSVP you can email me here at work or at home at Liblaauw@earthlink.net. ------------------------------ End of rubberstampers Digest V2 #316 ************************************ To subscribe to rubberstampers Digest, send the command: subscribe rubberstampers-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-rubberstampers": subscribe rubberstampers-digest local-rubberstampers@your.domain.net A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "rubberstampers-digest" in the commands above with "rubberstampers". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/rubberstampers/archive. These are organized by date.