From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Re: the 2nd TP CD Date: 02 Aug 2001 18:19:08 +0100 The new CD was recorded on the 1st of July with a 6 week window for post recording editing... So you can work it out easily. But I do know that BF are very busy with other projects at present... Nick just stared in a Dr. W story so it may be a little while longer than that! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:54 PM > Hello, > > Do we have any idea yet as to when this CD is going to be released?? (UK > dates.) > > All the best, > > David. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 07:47:50 +0100 Hi all, well after a few hectic weeks showing Lazerus around the UK I'm actually back home and able to check up on my mail. Looks like it's gone a bit quiet around here so I thought I'd give anyone interested the chance to send me questions for Phillip who we'll be interviewing tomorrow. So if there's that burning question you always wanted to ask TIM now is the chance! but jump to it you only have 24 hours... I'll type out the transcript as before and post the pages on my web site within a few days for all to see. Jackie p.s. Details of the on-line live chat with Nicholas Young will be posted next week so that you can all clear a space on your diaries... I'll need to know how many fans think they can make it to the chat to help make arrangements for ops... So watch this space. p.p.s Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the 30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 16:59:30 +1000 Jackie Clark wrote: > > p.s. Details of the on-line live chat with Nicholas Young will be posted > next week so that you can all clear a space on your diaries... I'll need to > know how many fans think they can make it to the chat to help make > arrangements for ops... So watch this space. > > p.p.s > Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the > 30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. Isn't the 30th Anniversary in 2003? (1st Episode originally broadcast 30th April, 1973). I'd be interested - but I'd be more interested in a 2003 date to be honest, even without the anniversary. For a lot of people, anything like this requires considerable saving even to be a possibility (not to mention certain fans on this list being more likely to be free to go in 2003 due to having passed out of childhood...) Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org |ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 08:03:59 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 7:59 AM > > Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the > > 30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK.> > Isn't the 30th Anniversary in 2003? (1st Episode originally broadcast > 30th April, 1973). > > I'd be interested - but I'd be more interested in a 2003 date to be > honest, even without the anniversary. For a lot of people, anything like > this requires considerable saving even to be a possibility (not to > mention certain fans on this list being more likely to be free to go in > 2003 due to having passed out of childhood...) Ok well I can't get it right all of the time lol... 2003 sounds wonderful gives me more time to make arrangements... ;-) This is only a first idea and I'm not promising anything definate just gauaging interest from list members... Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Emma=20Hanby?= Subject: TPDIS: Hi :D Date: 04 Aug 2001 10:40:47 +0100 (BST) Hi everyone! My name is Em and i'm new. I'm glad i`ve finally found a list for the Tommorow People, the ignorant streak in me thought i was the only one who remembered them, but yet again i`m wrong! I cant really remember the older series although i do remember those haircuts! the newer series i can remember bits of. I have been searching since around `96 for copies of the newer series (we didnt have a video recorder when it was origially shown, so i sorta missed the boat there as it were) so i am a bit rusty. although going to the Galatic Federation site, Teleporter Take out and the really good site with the purply images in the background as jogged my memory a bit-thanks to the creators if they happen to be onlist. well thats all i really have to say and i look forward to a long and happy time on this list remembering the glory that was........The Tommorow People. Thank you and good day:P Em ===== please visit my new look site-go on you know you want to!: http://www.geocities.com/midigirl2000 ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viv Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT) > p.p.s > Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the > 30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. Sounds like a blast - I better'd start saving money - gonna be coming in from Texas! viv Tia's Pals' Press c/o Vivian Arney P.O. Box 144842 Austin, Tx 78714-4842 We've been selling Fanfiction, memorabilia and books for 13 years. SASE for more info. Http://members.aol.com/dark4eyes/tia-pals.html A proud member of FEF - http://www.phoenixfyre.net/fef _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ThirdRomana@netscape.net (Kristin Dunn) Subject: RE: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 12:58:12 -0400 "Jackie Clark" wrote: >p.p.s >Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the >30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. Ooo! Yes I sure would! Either year would be fine for me. Though I may be back in Japan in 2003, but if not, it gives me a good reason to be out of the states! Kristin -- 'You know, I would hate to be that one Japanese person who's house gets distroyed by Godzilla and their house insurance doesn't cover "damage caused by Godzilla, or other genetically engerneered creatures"' My friend making yet another random comment while watching Godzilla 2000 __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: TP Convention (was Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert)) Date: 04 Aug 2001 14:20:57 -0500 Jackie Clark wrote: > p.p.s > Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the > 30th anniversary [in 2003]. Of course it would take place in the UK. Of course I'm INTERESTED. Now ask me if I can pull it off. (Maybe I can race through both the MS and PhD-- my parents keep talking about going abroad as a graduation present.) *Absently wonders how many more TWA/American Airlines miles she'll need to get a free trip to London* Tigger (Who almost grabbed her advisor on the way out the door and asked if she could take off in April of 2003.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jsulzer Subject: RE: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 04 Aug 2001 18:40:21 -0400 >"Jackie Clark" wrote: > >>p.p.s >>Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the >>30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. I am certainly interested, and will be there if at all possible!! Jen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 05 Aug 2001 10:39:31 +1000 On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 08:03:59AM +0100, Jackie Clark wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shaun Hately > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) > > > > > Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's > the > > > 30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK.> > > Isn't the 30th Anniversary in 2003? (1st Episode originally broadcast > > 30th April, 1973). > > > > I'd be interested - but I'd be more interested in a 2003 date to be > > honest, even without the anniversary. For a lot of people, anything like > > this requires considerable saving even to be a possibility (not to > > mention certain fans on this list being more likely to be free to go in > > 2003 due to having passed out of childhood...) > > Ok well I can't get it right all of the time lol... 2003 sounds wonderful > gives me more time to make arrangements... ;-) It would depend when in 2003... I'm planning to go to Redemption '03 (Feb 21-23 2003) so I will be in England around that time... so if it was the weekend before or after, I could probably come! (Two cons for the price of one -- whee!) Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Servalan has lived altogether too long. Cancer is a professional. With his paymistress dead, he will pack up his toys and go home." -- Kerr Avon (Blake's 7: Assassin [D7]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tony nolan Subject: RE: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 05 Aug 2001 17:59:40 +1000 australia is a long way away, but then i feel like a jaunt regards tony At 06:40 PM 4/08/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >"Jackie Clark" wrote: > > > >>p.p.s > >>Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? > it's the > >>30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. > >I am certainly interested, and will be there if at all possible!! > >Jen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 05 Aug 2001 16:13:16 EDT --part1_dd.186b86e9.289f02dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even though I live in the US, I definitely want to go. I have been planning a trip to the UK anyway, now I can take care of two at one blow. Karen It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it. --part1_dd.186b86e9.289f02dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even though I live in the US, I definitely want to go.  I have been planning
a trip to the UK anyway, now I can take care of two at one blow.
Karen

It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be
when you can't help it. --part1_dd.186b86e9.289f02dc_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Matott" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Three in One (Phillip Gilbert) Date: 05 Aug 2001 21:47:23 +0000 >This is only a first idea and I'm not promising anything definate just >gauaging interest from list members... > I'm definitely intersted, but between school commitments and lack of funds, I'm betting it's a slim possibility for me. BUT, if the date gets nailed down early enough that makes it more and more of a possibility. So ridiculous as it may seem to plan something for 2003 in 2001, the earlier we move ahead with the idea, the better. mike - wondering how to phrase this on his Christams list this year. "Mom, Dad, I'd like to set up a 'send Mike to England fund' so I can celebrate the 30th anniversary of a TV show." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viv Subject: TPDIS: TP CONVENTION Date: 06 Aug 2001 13:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Told my roommate about the potential con - she's interested too. viv Tia's Pals' Press c/o Vivian Arney P.O. Box 144842 Austin, Tx 78714-4842 We've been selling Fanfiction, memorabilia and books for 13 years. SASE for more info. Http://members.aol.com/dark4eyes/tia-pals.html A proud member of FEF - http://www.phoenixfyre.net/fef _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: Philip Gilbert interview Date: 06 Aug 2001 23:26:26 +0100 There is now an exclusive interview with Philip available on my web site. See link below. As so few people mailed me questions I adapted the ones previously used for Nick and I think it worked quite well to hear another person's perspective. I only completed the upload a few minutes ago and really hope that we don't have the same problems we did last time. If anyone finds links that don't work please let me know. I've been working on it for twelve hours and there are bound to be a few I missed. Enjoy! Jackie http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/tp/Interviews/PhilGpart1.htm ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ana Isabel Sacristan Subject: Re: TPDIS:TP Convention Date: 06 Aug 2001 20:10:29 -0500 At 07:47 AM 04-08-01 +0100, Jackie wrote: >Would anyone be interested if I tried to arrange a TP convention??? it's the >30th anniversary next year. Of course it would take place in the UK. If it is on the week following the 27th of July 2002, I will be in the UK!! 2003 is too far off for me to know where I'll be, but I would love to come! Ana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alpropes Subject: Re: TPDIS: Philip Gilbert interview Date: 07 Aug 2001 08:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Interesting bit about Peter Davidson denying his role in the TP; I recall several years ago in Chicago his responce to someone asking about A Man For Emily: "God d--m Nickelodeon". I suppose if I made my living as an actor, my responce would be the same thing. :) --- Aaron Lee Propes InteractiveTheatre.org - Using drama to educate on sexual assault http://www.interactivetheatre.org On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jackie Clark wrote: > There is now an exclusive interview with Philip available on my web site. > See link below. > > As so few people mailed me questions I adapted the ones previously used for > Nick and I think it worked quite well to hear another person's perspective. > > I only completed the upload a few minutes ago and really hope that we don't > have the same problems we did last time. If anyone finds links that don't > work please let me know. I've been working on it for twelve hours and there > are bound to be a few I missed. > > Enjoy! > Jackie > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/tp/Interviews/PhilGpart1.htm > ---- > "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." > Traditional Manyarnern Greeting > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html > > http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dalton Ames Subject: Re: TPDIS: Philip Gilbert interview Date: 07 Aug 2001 07:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Page 1 loads fine, but pages 2 and 3 don't seem to load. Anyone else have this problem? Are the links correct? - David http://davidwj.com --- Jackie Clark wrote: > There is now an exclusive interview with Philip > available on my web site. > See link below. > > As so few people mailed me questions I adapted the > ones previously used for > Nick and I think it worked quite well to hear > another person's perspective. > > I only completed the upload a few minutes ago and > really hope that we don't > have the same problems we did last time. If anyone > finds links that don't > work please let me know. I've been working on it for > twelve hours and there > are bound to be a few I missed. > > Enjoy! > Jackie > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/tp/Interviews/PhilGpart1.htm > ---- > "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be > fulfilled." > > Traditional Manyarnern Greeting > > http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html > > http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: TP on Sci-FI UK Date: 07 Aug 2001 11:37:19 EDT I was just surfing for Tomorrow people and I came across Sci-Fi Channel in the UK's schedule (http://www.scifi.com/sfeurope/sfecable.html). Is this accurate, are they showing TP now in the UK? or is it and old schedule? Because if Scifi can do it in the UK, why can't they do in the US? Karen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: Philip Gilbert interview Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:42:44 -0700 (PDT) --- Dalton Ames wrote: > Page 1 loads fine, but pages 2 and 3 don't seem to > load. Anyone else have this problem? Are the links > correct? > I had no trobule with any of the pages. They all looked wonderful, Jackie. Well done! mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: TP on Sci-FI UK Date: 07 Aug 2001 22:59:30 +0100 (BST) --- KVDelano@aol.com wrote: > I was just surfing for Tomorrow people and I came > across Sci-Fi Channel in the UK's schedule > (http://www.scifi.com/sfeurope/sfecable.html). Is > this accurate, are they showing TP now in the UK? > or is it and old schedule? No, that's as old as hell! Circa 1997? It mentions Quantum Leap which is now on UK Gold, Tales of the Unexpected which is now on Granada Plus, The Incredible Hulk which is now on ITV2, MST3000 which has been banned, and certain other things they've lost the rights to. In fact they've lost the rights to anything good and just show rubbish anime round-the-clock. By the way, i've some recordings from when it was on the Sci-Fi channel, so if any UK TP fans are interested, then go to : http://www22.brinkster.com/fluce/trading -Duncan ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-tpdis@lists.xmission.com Date: 07 Aug 2001 18:23:10 -0600 It has come to my attention that people are receiving bounce messages from an account in Brazil that appears to have the same name as TPFICT. I have no idea what it causing it, but I'm doing what I can to look in to it and make it stop. Sender: owner-tpdis@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tpdis ... Wendy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: TPDIS: If you were to do it over again... Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Okay, seeing as how the list has been rather quiet lately, I'll see if I can get a thread or two going. Here's the first: What if some TV production company gave you a multi-million dollar budget to develop a new version of the Tomorrow People. What would you do? How would you set it up? What ties, if any, would you have with either the Old or New series? ---- So, my thoughts... I'd have a larger cast than the New Series did, with at least 5 regular TPs, and possibly two or three peripheral TPs or normal human characters. There are plenty of excellent shows out there now with larger ensemble casts than that. Obviously the three T's would be requisite powers: telepathy, telekinesis, and teleportation. I liked how the New Series TPs didn't need belts or anything to augment their teleporting. I'd add in the posession of special abilities for each TP that go a bit further out in the pscyhic/paranormal department (pyrokinesis, psychometry, etc) I'd want the TPs to be more independent. No TIM or General Damon figure to be the parent figure. I'd place them in a situation in which they are being pursued/hunted because of their abilities, providing a running element of danger to their lives. That's about all I thought of... others? mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Okay, here's thread number two. Every time I fill my car with gas, the tree-hugging (late) hippy in me feels guilty and I get to thinking "It'd be easier if I could just teleport." Then it hit me... what if teleporation left some sort of dangerous side-effect? Radiation? Some other pollutant? Any thoughts or speculations about what environmental risks might be associated with teleportation? mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JADFIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: If you were to do it over again... Date: 08 Aug 2001 00:46:17 EDT hi, i'm new to the list, but i thought that this was an idea that i could start with. I've been toying with a fanfic idea in which there are two kinds of TP's. darks and lights, good and bad. Which one they are is detirmined by their nature before breakout. There are two ships. There has been conflict between them for a long time, but because of the little fact that they can't kill, they have to resort to setting traps, etc. it has been something that i have been toying with and i hope to post to the fict ring soon. i would work a new series around that, and maybe bring in a few of the 90's characters, i like Jade a lot and think that there is a lot that can be done with her character, Adam as well. Feel free to let me know what you guys think of my fict idea. ~Cathryn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JADFIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 00:47:33 EDT never really thought about that one. hmmm... ~Cathryn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snicker Subject: Re: TPDIS: If you were to do it over again... Date: 08 Aug 2001 04:16:20 -0500 At 08:04 PM 8/7/01 -0700, you wrote: >Okay, seeing as how the list has been rather quiet >lately, I'll see if I can get a thread or two going. > >Here's the first: > >What if some TV production company gave you a >multi-million dollar budget to develop a new version >of the Tomorrow People. What would you do? How would >you set it up? What ties, if any, would you have with >either the Old or New series? The original series seemed to have the kids in an almost scooby-doo like mystery / problem solving role. Oddly, this has proven to be a successful formula again and again. The presence of Tim provides a convenient deus-ex-machina, while the equipment (jaunting belts, etc.) provide a subtle weakness, easily exploitable. I think I would like to try and get one or two original actors to cameo as adult tps, but in a situation where adults aren't allowed. Imagine, if you will, adults in the world of The Tribe. I think that TPs would have a difficult time surviving, especially in the absence of adult supervision. It would certainly put a limitation and challenge in front of them. Snicker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snicker Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 04:19:46 -0500 At 08:07 PM 8/7/01 -0700, you wrote: >Okay, here's thread number two. > >Every time I fill my car with gas, the tree-hugging >(late) hippy in me feels guilty and I get to thinking >"It'd be easier if I could just teleport." > >Then it hit me... what if teleporation left some sort >of dangerous side-effect? Radiation? Some other >pollutant? > >Any thoughts or speculations about what environmental >risks might be associated with teleportation? Every time you teleport you either a) displace the local molecules or b) translocate them to your previous location. Either effect would be dangerous - instantaneous expansion is effectively the definition of an explosion (and an instant vacuum where you were before wouldn't be that pleasant, either), and translocation could carry the risk of carrying foreign microbes or matter to an isolated environment. Imagine if you jaunted from Australia to the jungles of Brazil, translocating a few non-native insects in the process... Scary thought, eh? Snicker P.S. My tree-hugging hippy self (complete with long hair and Jesus-beard) just bought a 2001 Toyota Prius, a gas-electric hybrid and super-ultra low emissions vehicle. I feel much better when filling my gas tank ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jane starr Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 09:05:35 -0600 At 04:19 AM 08/08/2001 -0500, Snicker wrote: >>Any thoughts or speculations about what environmental >>risks might be associated with teleportation? > > >Every time you teleport you either a) displace the local molecules or b) >translocate them to your previous location. Either effect would be >dangerous - instantaneous expansion is effectively the definition of an >explosion (and an instant vacuum where you were before wouldn't be that >pleasant, either), and translocation could carry the risk of carrying >foreign microbes or matter to an isolated environment. Imagine if you >jaunted from Australia to the jungles of Brazil, translocating a few >non-native insects in the process... Scary thought, eh? Not to mention colds, flu and other germs - the spread of a pandemic is fast enough now - imagine what would happen if teleportation were added to the mix? I have only a newspaper-reader's knowledge of epidemiology, but I seem to recall that at present, scientists count on having several months from first identification of a new strain to develop vaccines before the disease spreads to significant numbers. Teleportation could negate that entirely. Millions could die (check the records of the last couple of major influenza pandemics - very interesting but rather scary stuff). There's a really gripping fic in that - pity I can't write for beans... Jane Jane Starr starr@planet.eon.net Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Snicker Furfoot, Esq." Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:18:22 -0500 At 09:05 AM 8/8/2001 -0600, you wrote: >At 04:19 AM 08/08/2001 -0500, Snicker wrote: > >>>Any thoughts or speculations about what environmental >>>risks might be associated with teleportation? >> >> >>Every time you teleport you either a) displace the local molecules or b) >>translocate them to your previous location. Either effect would be >>dangerous - instantaneous expansion is effectively the definition of an >>explosion (and an instant vacuum where you were before wouldn't be that >>pleasant, either), and translocation could carry the risk of carrying >>foreign microbes or matter to an isolated environment. Imagine if you >>jaunted from Australia to the jungles of Brazil, translocating a few >>non-native insects in the process... Scary thought, eh? > >Not to mention colds, flu and other germs - the spread of a pandemic is >fast enough now - imagine what would happen if teleportation were added to >the mix? I have only a newspaper-reader's knowledge of epidemiology, but >I seem to recall that at present, scientists count on having several >months from first identification of a new strain to develop vaccines >before the disease spreads to significant numbers. Teleportation could >negate that entirely. Millions could die (check the records of the last >couple of major influenza pandemics - very interesting but rather scary >stuff). > >There's a really gripping fic in that - pity I can't write for beans... Actually, Jane, a recent movie on ABC (I think) demonstrated the seriousness of a biological attack on the United States, using an airborne virus with 100% mortality rate and a 72 hour kill period. Just long enough for someone infected with minor symptoms to travel from one country to another, infecting thousands... *shudders* And to think, I just caught a cold going through several airports on Sunday and Monday.... What if that had been a version of Ebola instead? It's a very scary thought indeed. Snicker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jane starr Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:14:16 -0600 At 10:18 AM 08/08/2001 -0500, Snicker wrote: >Actually, Jane, a recent movie on ABC (I think) demonstrated the >seriousness of a biological attack on the United States, using an airborne >virus with 100% mortality rate and a 72 hour kill period. Just long >enough for someone infected with minor symptoms to travel from one country >to another, infecting thousands... > >*shudders* Gee, think of the sleepless nights I have avoided by missing that. Maybe having no time for tv isn't so bad :). I haven't watched anything but taped episodes of Hamish MacBeth since Buffy finished for the summer (well, okay, the odd edition of The National and about 15 minutes of the opening ceremonies of the Worlds, and sometimes a bit of HGTV when I really need to veg, but really, compared to what I watched before I had kids, that's nothing). >And to think, I just caught a cold going through several airports on >Sunday and Monday.... What if that had been a version of Ebola instead? >It's a very scary thought indeed. You should see the precautions they have for the atheletes coming to the World Athletic Games which are on here right now. Not just human disease, but foot and mouth too. Jane Jane Starr starr@planet.eon.net Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:19:05 +0100 > Actually, Jane, a recent movie on ABC (I think) demonstrated the > seriousness of a biological attack on the United States, using an airborne > virus with 100% mortality rate and a 72 hour kill period. Just long enough > for someone infected with minor symptoms to travel from one country to > another, infecting thousands... > > *shudders* > > And to think, I just caught a cold going through several airports on Sunday > and Monday.... What if that had been a version of Ebola instead? It's a > very scary thought indeed. > > Snicker > > They get around this problem in Star Trek by having biological filters on the transporters...as TP can only do short hops without a belt then it would be difficult for them to go very far alone... so the belt may have a similar filter to the enterprise's transporters... What is even more scary is the thought of alien viruses the saps couldn't even identify, let alone cure, being brought back to Earth by an unsuspecting TP! hmmm reminds me of one of my stories where Tyso has Tyrellian Plague... Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:22:13 EDT In a message dated 01-08-07 23:08:06 EDT, you write: << Then it hit me... what if teleporation left some sort of dangerous side-effect? Radiation? Some other pollutant? Any thoughts or speculations about what environmental risks might be associated with teleportation? >> Interesting thought, however it takes the "fun" out of jaunting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Risks of teleportation? Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:09:40 EDT In a message dated 01-08-08 12:22:23 EDT, you write: << Gee, think of the sleepless nights I have avoided by missing that. Maybe having no time for tv isn't so bad :). I haven't watched anything but taped episodes of Hamish MacBeth since Buffy finished for the summer (well, okay, the odd edition of The National and about 15 minutes of the opening ceremonies of the Worlds, and sometimes a bit of HGTV when I really need to veg, but really, compared to what I watched before I had kids, that's nothing). >> May I suggest WITCHBLADE and MYSTERIOUS WAYS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 08 Aug 2001 19:50:37 EDT Spread the word: this supernatural classic new series is being rerun and hopefully all 6 episodes will be shown this time. Actually the first one already ran and the next two that were aired will be reshown as far as I can tell. Also I think the plan is to show the next three that were not aired, making 6 in all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snicker Subject: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 08 Aug 2001 19:45:42 -0500 At 07:50 PM 8/8/01 -0400, you wrote: >Spread the word: this supernatural classic new series is being rerun and >hopefully all 6 episodes will be shown this time. Actually the first one >already ran and the next two that were aired will be reshown as far as I can >tell. Also I think the plan is to show the next three that were not aired, >making 6 in all. What network? Snicker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 08 Aug 2001 23:07:20 EDT In a message dated 01-08-08 20:45:01 EDT, you write: << What network? Snicker >> UPN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: chat Date: 09 Aug 2001 20:24:55 +0100 Hi all. It's thursday evening 8.24 p.m. GMT and I miss chatting with regulars from this list is there anyone around right now who's free to chat on mirc about the TP? Jackie ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AgentRacerX@cs.com Subject: RE: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:09:43 -0400 Any idea what time and day they'll be on? Thanks for the info, BTW. -Nicole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Psycho Babble" Subject: RE: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 09 Aug 2001 19:21:58 -0400 My local listing says friday at nine. ~Kristin "There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." -Dave Barry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viv Subject: RE: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:40:00 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:21:58 -0400, tpdis@lists.xmission.com wrote: > My local listing says friday at nine. Okay, I missed something, What is "All Souls?" viv too busy with fixing dispatches to come out of the sand. Tia's Pals' Press c/o Vivian Arney P.O. Box 144842 Austin, Tx 78714-4842 We've been selling Fanfiction, memorabilia and books for 13 years. SASE for more info. Http://members.aol.com/dark4eyes/tia-pals.html A proud member of FEF - http://www.phoenixfyre.net/fef _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: Re: TPDIS: If you were to do it over again... Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:04:30 -0500 > >I'd want the TPs to be more independent. No TIM or >General Damon figure to be the parent figure. I would want adults to figure into the show, tho. Pretending that all the TPs are only-child orphans just gets false after awhile. I would also add in some kind of penalty for using/abusing powers; something to make it difficult for the TP, so writers wouldn't have to knock them out all the time. ... Wendy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J2rider@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: NEW TP-what I would do if... Date: 08 Aug 2001 15:25:30 EDT I guess my fan fics tell all I would do. I posted them on the reg tp fic and the others on the TP adult fic (none are X rated, more like PG or at times R). Anyway what I would do? First: hire anyone from the original show that would want to work as TP. Nick Young is a must have as is Phillip Gilbert. I would hope to get Liz and Stephen as well and would like Tyso, Andrew, Tricia, and Hsue Tai. I would even approach those who played Carol, Kenny, and Peter. These people would have lives beyond what the original show shared with us. They would have moved on a bit but not so much that they are unrecognizable to fans. Second: prepare a large book that details what happened between the end of series one and the beginning of this series. I would consider the NEW 1990 series an alternate universe (and would not at some time in the future of this series be adverse to having Adam, Kevin (either one or both versions), and Megabyte show up from their universe (sorry, all the other characters are OUT for any major appearances). Perhaps the spaceship was from the Galactic Trig in the real universe having passed into the NEW 1990 UNIVERSE. There would be some new TP who have broken out (not more than 15 I would say, maybe even less than that). There are Tps from many other countries including France and Scandanavia, Japan and China. Third: start with 3 new breakouts at one time--all brothers separated at birth (Hansons anyone?) and all from America. Center the story around that mostly. And the governments trying to get to them first. A detective who knows the youngest brother who lived on the streets in California looks for him when he vanishes. It turns out this detective, seemingly our hero we identify with is actually a returned Jedikiah. The Tp are revealed from there SLOWLY at first but not too slowly. By the first hour's end, it will be all set up. Fourth: although not every old villain would appear back to back, there will be reappearances of almost all of them in one form or another over the years. That said, I would want new stories and new adventures. I want them to take place on Earth, in outer space, and in time (past and future) for the beginning. Later on, I would want alternate universe stories but again not too too many right away. MONSTERS, ALIENS, GHOSTS, DEMONS, WITCHES, PARASITES, ILLUSIONS, MUTANTS. DINOSAURS, ALIEN PLANETS AND TIMES. The sun can have life forms too. Different forms of life exist in the universe and different forms of death too. Fifth: tone: different in every story: one can be a comedy (A MEAL FOR THE MOMMA anyone?), one can be darkly serious like an X FILE, another can be romantic, others can be traditional tales. Oddly enough I would want both self contained stories and eventually in maybe a second season I would want continuing arcs and almost soap opera feel to things but I don't want things to drag or be padded out. I also don't want to give people the feel that this series is going to be cancelled. I want the lives of the TP to be real this time out (for the most part). World events will be a part of this as will social issues but I don't want it to be just those. Invasions of Earth, large and small, will happen. The supernatural does exist alongside science and it is not just a matter of the "gods" are aliens from outer space although that will figure into it in part. God does exist, like it or not. Sixth: LABS: many bases and many labs. I would mention these slowly over time. Perhaps John will reopen the Old LabS but there will eventually be labs on the Moon, in Russian Mts, in the Canadian wilderness, Arizona, and on a large space station in outer space orbiting Earth. Location shooting is a must have. Streets, parks, forests, jungles, Australia, London countryside and city, NYC, Long Island, Hawaii, Japan, China, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, etc. Mts, rivers, oceans, valleys, etc. 7th: jaunting bands are still around as are the belts. Transmats are around too. TIM is essential. There are many versions of him all with the same voice and all linked together. Link tables are in. John still collects old cars. He will get married and have kids. Guess to who, Dianne? (Either Liz or Heather). In short, the same old technology stuff, perhaps designed to have a new look but as close to the original stuff as possible. I don't want to change too much. Lab looks will be as close to the original LABS as possible. Both of them. 8th: TIME GUARDIANS: they exist, they develop, they are. Time travel would be a big part of the show over several episodes or special story arcs. It would not dominate. Travel to the past and future of Earth and any other planet is possible. 9th: once a season or so after the first season, I would want to do a crossover with a show or two. BLAKE'S 7, DOCTOR WHO, LAND OF THE GIANTS, LOST IN SPACE, I don't know yet. This may or may not happen though. Depends. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:40:42 -0600 Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:07:20PM -0400 Sender: owner-tpdis@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tpdis On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:07:20PM -0400, CMento6653@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01-08-08 20:45:01 EDT, you write: > > << > What network? > > Snicker > >> > > > UPN > In the USA, I assume? (Remember, this is an international list...) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ThirdRomana@netscape.net (Kristin Dunn) Subject: Re: TPDIS: ALL SOULS Date: 09 Aug 2001 22:29:28 -0400 Viv wrote: > >Okay, I missed something, What is "All Souls?" > 'All Souls' is a show on UPN that has Christian Tesser(Pardon the spelling) in it. It's basicly set in a hospital, and paranormal stuff happens with the people in there. (Will I be hurt for saying mental ward, or sanatarium(sp again)?) He has a pretty big role in the show. Sorry for the bad description of the show. I only saw it twice before I laft to go back home for the summer from College. IMHO it's a pretty good show. I liked it, and that's one of theways I got my dorm mate hooked on TP (don't ask) Okay back to lurk mode. ^_^* Kristin (Oh no. We now have two of me. Two Romana's and two Kristin's. One of these days, that whole doctor who eps. thingee is going to catch up with me, and I'm going to cause some mjor problems in the universe.) -- 'You know, I would hate to be that one Japanese person who's house gets distroyed by Godzilla and their house insurance doesn't cover "damage caused by Godzilla, or other genetically engerneered creatures"' My friend making yet another random comment while watching Godzilla 2000 __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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Sports suck. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: TPDIS: Kristian Schmid Date: 13 Aug 2001 12:47:04 +1000 I've been hearing rumours of this for a while, but I can now confirm. Kristian Schmid is credited as 'starring' in the new film version of Scooby Doo. He's the last name of the list of stars (Freddie Prinze Jr., Sarah Michelle Gellar, Linda Cardellini, Matthew Lillard, Rowan Atkinson, Remi Broadway, Charles Cousins, Andrew Prine, Kristian Schmid) but he does make it. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org |ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: TPDIS: KS addendum Date: 13 Aug 2001 12:51:10 +1000 Searching for more information, I came across the following release which suggest KS really needs more publicity: "Dark Horizons reports exciting news that british Actress Kristian Schmid ("Have a Go") has joined the Cast of "Scooby-Doo." No word yet on who's she's playing, but we'll be sure to keep you informed!" Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org |ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wendy Perkins Subject: TPDIS: ADMIN: blank messages Date: 13 Aug 2001 18:07:54 -0500 As part of the trouble shooting to figure out where those Brazilian bounces are coming from, I have to email each subscriber on the list to see if that email address is the culprit. That means each of you will be getting a blank message from me. It's labelled "please ignore this". I highly advise that action. Don't be concerned and please don't respond. Thanks. ... Wendy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: TPDIS: Re: Worst case list was TPFICT: Breakout Date: 16 Aug 2001 09:17:32 +1000 I'm moving this thread over to TPDIS - while originally it was certainly reasonable on TPFICT (concerning ideas for fanfic) it's now turned into a more general discussion as well. David_M_Yates wrote: > > I hate visits to the dentist as well. I think its a great idea! As a > proposed new thread for discussion, should we all list our three > worst-case-scenarios of situations that would scare us into breaking out?? I remember when I was 14, having to bend over for a caning at school, and thinking the whole time. "This would be worth it if it led to breakout..." If there was any justice in the world, I would have just jaunted away. More seriously, I was a victim of quite hideous bullying at school, and in almost any of those occasions when that was happening, breakout would have been a blessed release - although as the main reason they were picking on me was that I was strange, I think I might have had more problems later on... Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org |ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ana Isabel Sacristan Subject: Re: TPDIS: NEW TP-what I would do if... Date: 15 Aug 2001 22:23:34 -0500 At 03:25 PM 08-08-01 -0400, you wrote: >I guess my fan fics tell all I would do. I posted them on the reg tp fic and >the others on the TP adult fic (none are X rated, more like PG or at times >R). Anyway what I would do? > >... >There are Tps from many other countries including >France and Scandanavia, Japan and China. > > >Sixth: LABS: many bases and many labs. I would mention these slowly over >time. Perhaps John will reopen the Old LabS but there will eventually be labs >on the Moon, in Russian Mts, in the Canadian wilderness, Arizona, and on a >large space station in outer space orbiting Earth. Location shooting is a >must have. Streets, parks, forests, jungles, Australia, London countryside >and city, NYC, Long Island, Hawaii, Japan, China, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, >etc. Mts, rivers, oceans, valleys, etc. Mexico, perhaps? Ana (from Mexico) --still waiting to break out :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David_M_Yates" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Re: Worst case list was TPFICT: Breakout Date: 16 Aug 2001 16:09:09 +0100 > I'm moving this thread over to TPDIS - while originally it was certainly > reasonable on TPFICT (concerning ideas for fanfic) it's now turned into a > more general discussion as well. D'OH! Sorry Shaun, (and Wendy) I thought this WAS on TPDIS! David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: Re: TPDIS: Re: Worst case list was TPFICT: Breakout Date: 17 Aug 2001 07:39:30 +1000 David_M_Yates wrote: > > > I'm moving this thread over to TPDIS - while originally it was certainly > > reasonable on TPFICT (concerning ideas for fanfic) it's now turned into a > > more general discussion as well. > > D'OH! Sorry Shaun, (and Wendy) I thought this WAS on TPDIS! Don't worry - easy mistake to make. The only reason I caught it was that I have the mail for each list directed to different folders. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |drednort@alphalink.com.au, drednort@au.mensa.org |ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Edmonds" Subject: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 20:43:45 -0000 Hi everyone I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a couple of references to other programs where teleportation, telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more to my list? (I'm sure there are more, especially some of the more eclectic British shows which don't seem to make it to NZ.) Telekinesis Misfits of science Charmed Psi Factor Girl from Tomorrow (electronically enhanced TK) Babylon 5 Buck Rogers Witch Mountain movies Phenomenon Telepathy Star Trek (various versions) Blakes 7 Babylon 5 Witch mountain movies Teleportation (very few examples) Star Trek Blakes 7 There was a very unusual British series about male and female twins separated at birth and brought up in two different families. Strong tk when they came close to each other? Saw it many years ago - no idea what the name was though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 12:58:23 EDT --part1_f5.e0c34f3.28aff8af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't remember off the top of my head other shows where the 3 Ts were prevelent, but some individual episodes did feature telepathy. There was an episode of Buffy TVS when she was telepathic (well she could read minds, but she couldn't send or at least no one was around who could receive). X-files of course had telepaths on--that chess playing kid (can't remember his name) could read minds Even McGuyver had a show with a telepath on it. A Russian (who more than likely bent spoons in his spare time):) Wonder Woman had some episodes with telepaths, but they weren't human-not even homo superior Probably many shows have had an episode with telepathy on it (real or cons, I learned about tests for telepathy from Columbo--so anything's possibly). They just don't seem to feature it like TP, at least not many that I have seen. Movies (like Witch Mountain) do it a lot more. Oh, and I think the Visitor was telepathic. He also had one of the TP's minor talents --he could heal. Karen It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it. --part1_f5.e0c34f3.28aff8af_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't remember off the top of my head other shows where the 3 Ts were
prevelent, but some individual episodes did feature telepathy.
There was an episode of Buffy TVS when she was telepathic (well she could
read minds, but she couldn't send or at least no one was around who could
receive).
X-files of course had telepaths on--that chess playing kid (can't remember
his name) could read minds
Even McGuyver had a show with a telepath on it.  A Russian (who more than
likely bent spoons in his spare time):)
Wonder Woman had some episodes with telepaths, but they weren't human-not
even homo superior
Probably many shows have had an episode with telepathy on it (real or cons, I
learned about tests for telepathy from Columbo--so anything's possibly).  
They just don't seem to feature it like TP, at least not many that I have
seen.  Movies (like Witch Mountain) do it a lot more.  
Oh, and I think the Visitor was telepathic.  He also had one of the TP's
minor talents --he could heal.
Karen

It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be
when you can't help it. --part1_f5.e0c34f3.28aff8af_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: What's in a Name? Date: 18 Aug 2001 13:05:51 EDT --part1_49.f8be5bd.28affa6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just watched Medusa Strain for the first time and realized something. Robowski (forgive my spelling) said that telepaths of the future were called Homo Novis which means New Man. And the leader of the future telepaths was named Adam Newman. So will they change their Latin designation to honor Adam? Or (as I have often believed) Adam Newman is not his real name, he changed it when he realized that He was the First (ADAM) of the New Men (NEWMAN). Or at least on of the first. So the Latin designation may or may not be connected with him personally. Something to wonder about Karen It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it. --part1_49.f8be5bd.28affa6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just watched Medusa Strain for the first time and realized something.  
Robowski (forgive my spelling) said that telepaths of the future were called
Homo Novis which means New Man.
And the leader of the future telepaths was named Adam Newman.  So will they
change their Latin designation to honor Adam?  
Or (as I have often believed) Adam Newman is not his real name, he changed it
when he realized that He was the First (ADAM) of the New Men (NEWMAN).  Or at
least on of the first.  So the Latin designation may or may not be connected
with him personally.  Something to wonder about
Karen

It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be
when you can't help it. --part1_49.f8be5bd.28affa6f_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Wiltsie" Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 11:51:56 -0600 Could the name of the program be "The Third Eye"? It was a series that had several different stories, but I recall one episode where a boy and a girl had to use some stones to help them with telepathy. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:43 PM > Hi everyone > > I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a > couple of references to other programs where teleportation, > telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more > to my list? (I'm sure there are more, especially some of the more > eclectic British shows which don't seem to make it to NZ.) > > Telekinesis > Misfits of science > Charmed > Psi Factor > Girl from Tomorrow (electronically enhanced TK) > Babylon 5 > Buck Rogers > Witch Mountain movies > Phenomenon > > Telepathy > Star Trek (various versions) > Blakes 7 > Babylon 5 > Witch mountain movies > > Teleportation (very few examples) > Star Trek > Blakes 7 > > There was a very unusual British series about male and female > twins separated at birth and brought up in two different families. > Strong tk when they came close to each other? Saw it many years > ago - no idea what the name was though. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 13:56:28 EDT Oh gosh, yes. THE PEOPLE tv movie with William Shatner and Kim Darby CHOCKY CHOCKY 2 and 3 BEYOND REALITY-a group of super powered TP like teens, leader evil, others good and were touted as the next step of human evolution THE OUTER LIMITS original-THE MAN WITH THE POWER, others LAND OF THE GIANTS-GRAVEYARD OF FOOLS FRIDAY THE 13TH --one of the movies had a telekinetic fighting Jason CARRIE CARRIE 2 ARK 2 STARLOST FIRESTARTER and other movies like it VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA-DAY THE WORLD ENDED WITCH MT TV SHOW THE SIXTH SENSE (the tv show from the 1970s all about ESP) SO WEIRD-a boy with telekinetic powers OCEAN GIRL-commication with sea animals, season 4 a girl can read minds DARK SHADOWS-Barnabus had some mental powers when he haunted Julia EARTH 2-aliens communicate via dreams, dream scanning, dream walking DREAMSCAPE SPACE ACADEMY-alien from Loki's past had telekinesis and more SPACE: 1999-many, BLACK SUN, ABCHYSALIS, etc, EXILES WALKER TEXAS RANGER-David Gallagher as a boy with telekinesis and more CHARMED-many GENERAL HOSPITAL/PORT CHARLES-Lucy Coe could send thoughts and pick up vibes, vampires had some teleporting powers WONDER WOMAN-THE MAN WHO COULD MOVE THE WORLD and others THE BIONIC WOMAN-ep with girl whose dreams became illusions THE BIONIC WOMAN-others THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN-the GHOSTLY TELETYPE-esp twins SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN-other eps including 2 with a girl who could read minds INCREDIBLE HULK-girl who could touch someone and see the future LOST IN SPACE-SPACE CIRCUS-various, Will could make objects appear THE OMEGA FACTOR LOST IN SPACE-THE ANTI MATTER MAN-Will hears John's mental cry FRIDAY THE 13TH THE TV SERIES-many, including teleportation POLTERGEIST THE LEGACY POLTERGEIST THE MOVIES TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL-various but mostly due to God and/or devil BEAUTY AND THE BEAST-something going on bet Catherine and Vincent NIGHT GALLERY-several BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES THE POWERS OF MATTHEW STAR UFO-ep called ESP TWILIGHT ZONE-many inc THE PRIME MOVER ONE STEP BEYOND-almost every ep of both series ANOTHER STEP BEYOND SWAMP THING-mostly down to voodoo LITTLEST HOBO-this dog had the ability to read minds among other things BAYWATCH NIGHTS-Mitch had esp, other episodes X FILES MILLENNIUM FREAKYLINKS THE OTHERS THE THIRD EYE-CHILDREN OF THE STONES, THE HAUNTING OF CASSIE THE THIRD EYE-UNDER THE VOLCANO LOGAN'S RUN TV SHOW-girl with powers, others MAN FROM ATLANTIS-various DEAD AT 21-an excellent MTV series LOVE MINUS ZERO, others BATTLESTAR GALACTICA/GALACTICA 1980 AMERICAN GOTHIC/GOOSEBUMPS/ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE DARK-not sure FAR OUT SPACE NUTS-various or ? LAND OF THE LOST-? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: What's in a Name? Date: 18 Aug 2001 14:06:33 EDT In a message dated 01-08-18 13:06:19 EDT, you write: << just watched Medusa Strain for the first time and realized something. Robowski (forgive my spelling) said that telepaths of the future were called Homo Novis which means New Man. And the leader of the future telepaths was named Adam Newman. So will they change their Latin designation to honor Adam? Or (as I have often believed) Adam Newman is not his real name, he changed it when he realized that He was the First (ADAM) of the New Men (NEWMAN). Or at least on of the first. So the Latin designation may or may not be connected with him personally. Something to wonder about Karen >> a big HUH? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 11:57:28 -0700 There's one specific Episode that i can think of, in Outer Limits. A girl had wild PK or something, and was given a focus crystal, to focus her ability. The premise was that mostly only girls had it, and it was an extra chromosome. And as they grew older, the ability dwindled over time. Anyone remember that one? I know it's not totally related to TP, but it's another one I remember vividly as one of the shows that had TK/PK. -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 15:06:35 EDT CENTURY FALLS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jackie zalewski" Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 18 Aug 2001 21:25:38 -0400 Yes, it was called "Chosen" or "the Chosen". I have it on video from someone online who trades tv show tapes. It was a pretty cool episode with lots of believable effects. jackie (from NYC) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tony nolan Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 11:26:59 +1000 G'Day Dr who has some teleporting in an epposide so does willy wonka and the choclate factory if you want to do rock and roll clips, zztop has some too and charmed and bewitched and saberina the teenage witch they all have some forms of teleportation cheers tony At 08:43 PM 18/08/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi everyone > >I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a >couple of references to other programs where teleportation, >telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more >to my list? (I'm sure there are more, especially some of the more >eclectic British shows which don't seem to make it to NZ.) > >Telekinesis >Misfits of science >Charmed >Psi Factor >Girl from Tomorrow (electronically enhanced TK) >Babylon 5 >Buck Rogers >Witch Mountain movies >Phenomenon > >Telepathy >Star Trek (various versions) >Blakes 7 >Babylon 5 >Witch mountain movies > >Teleportation (very few examples) >Star Trek >Blakes 7 > >There was a very unusual British series about male and female >twins separated at birth and brought up in two different families. >Strong tk when they came close to each other? Saw it many years >ago - no idea what the name was though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 08:08:15 +1000 On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 08:43:45PM -0000, Michael Edmonds wrote: > I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a > couple of references to other programs where teleportation, > telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more > to my list? Some more that other people haven't already mentioned: The Champions (telepathy, TK) STARGATE -- aliens called the Nox have healing abilities, and the power of illusion (they can make things seem invisible). They're also pacifists (but I can't remember if they have telepathy). The X-Men (telepathy, TK and a whole other bunch of stuff) Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Why is everybody behaving as if there were no reason to panic? -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amy Bridger Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 21:53:04 +1000 At 08:43 :-) 18/8/01 -0000, "Michael Edmonds" wrote: >Hi everyone > >I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a >couple of references to other programs where teleportation, >telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more >to my list? Twins of Destiny was an animated series in which the twins had telekensis. I think they may have also picked up on each other's feelings or thoughts, but it's been a long time since I watched it. -- Amy Bridger (ami@full-moon.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott S. Goldman" Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 12:13:06 -0400 The Black Hole - Vincent the robot was telepathic and on a lighter note: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Elevators with pre-cognition - They know the get to the floor before you realize that you want to take an elevator. At 04:43 PM 8/18/2001, you wrote: >Hi everyone > >I've been tidying up some old computer files and came across a >couple of references to other programs where teleportation, >telepathy and telekinesis have been shown. Can anyone add more >to my list? (I'm sure there are more, especially some of the more >eclectic British shows which don't seem to make it to NZ.) > >Telekinesis >Misfits of science >Charmed >Psi Factor >Girl from Tomorrow (electronically enhanced TK) >Babylon 5 >Buck Rogers >Witch Mountain movies >Phenomenon > >Telepathy >Star Trek (various versions) >Blakes 7 >Babylon 5 >Witch mountain movies > >Teleportation (very few examples) >Star Trek >Blakes 7 > >There was a very unusual British series about male and female >twins separated at birth and brought up in two different families. >Strong tk when they came close to each other? Saw it many years >ago - no idea what the name was though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 21:39:36 +0100 (BST) --- John Wiltsie wrote: > Could the name of the program be "The Third Eye"? > It was a series that had > several different stories, but I recall one episode > where a boy and a girl > had to use some stones to help them with telepathy. No. The Third Eye was a strand on an American 'cable' channel (Nickelodeon) in the early eighties. The programmes shown were mainly British: HTV's Into the Labyrinth, HTV's Children of the Stones, TVS' The Haunting of Cassie Palmer and Under the Mountain (New Zealand company, i forget the name) I have copies of the first two series of Into The Labyrinth (only the first series was shown in America), but I am searching for Children of the Stones and the Haunting of Cassie Palmer, so PLEASE let me know if you have copies of them. Thanks. If you're looking for any PAL tapes, including TP then visit: http://www22.brinkster.com/fluce/trading ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 21:42:53 +0100 (BST) --- CMento6653@aol.com wrote: > Oh gosh, yes. > LITTLEST HOBO-this dog had the ability to read minds > among other things Now showing on the free UK digital satellite channel, Liberty TV (channel 202) > THE THIRD EYE-CHILDREN OF THE STONES, THE HAUNTING > OF CASSIE ...Palmer > THE THIRD EYE-UNDER THE VOLCANO you mean "Under the Mountain" ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Kirk" Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 17:20:15 -0400 Children of the stones was the best one of all the Third Eye Mini Series. I looked the place up and it does exist... Like Stonehenge... Peter Kirk pckirk@pa.net FF/EMT IPN-PEN311 Incident Paging Network WWW.IncidentPage.Net PA Chapter Administrator AIM: IPN PEN311 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:39 PM > --- John Wiltsie wrote: > > Could the name of the program be "The Third Eye"? > > It was a series that had > > several different stories, but I recall one episode > > where a boy and a girl > > had to use some stones to help them with telepathy. > > No. The Third Eye was a strand on an American 'cable' > channel (Nickelodeon) in the early eighties. > > The programmes shown were mainly British: HTV's Into > the Labyrinth, HTV's Children of the Stones, TVS' The > Haunting of Cassie Palmer and Under the Mountain (New > Zealand company, i forget the name) > > I have copies of the first two series of Into The > Labyrinth (only the first series was shown in > America), but I am searching for Children of the > Stones and the Haunting of Cassie Palmer, so PLEASE > let me know if you have copies of them. Thanks. > > If you're looking for any PAL tapes, including TP then > visit: > http://www22.brinkster.com/fluce/trading > > ===== > Regards, j/p > > The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! > http://tommyboyd.50megs.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 22:00:19 +0100 Two programmes come to mind which I don't think I have seen mentioned yet. Both have personnel links to TP. Firstly Timeslip, devised by Ruth Boswell in 1970. Liz Skinner has telepathic contact with her mother Jean, but only when in the past or present. Deltawave, devised by Pressman and Cathro in 1993 but only made after Nickelodeon withdrew from the co-financing of TP. Lots of TK in that show. And another one not connected at all: Metal Mickey. Boogie, boogie. Certainly some teleportation in that. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 23:14:52 +0100 (BST) --- Peter Kirk wrote: > Children of the stones was the best one of all the > Third Eye Mini Series. > I looked the place up and it does exist... Like > Stonehenge... Avebury. I've been there on holiday. Of course it's a real place. It's the second most famous stone site after Stonehenge. Have the Americans only heard of Stonehenge? ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 23:21:46 +0100 > I am searching for Children of the > Stones and the Haunting of Cassie Palmer Children of the Stones was available for years in the UK on the now defunct Video Gems label. Still shouldn't be too difficult to track down one of these. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 19:13:41 EDT VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA-THE PLANT MAN-twins' telepathy VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA-THE HEAT MONSTER LAND OF THE GIANTS-A PLACE CALLED EARTH-Earthling time travelers' telepath ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 19:15:49 EDT There were TWO Littlest Hobo series (a full series in 1960s) in black and white. Then a full 6 or 7 season color series. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 19 Aug 2001 17:33:45 -0700 (PDT) --- Rapido Europe wrote: > --- Peter Kirk wrote: > Children of > the stones was the best one of all the > > Third Eye Mini Series. > > I looked the place up and it does exist... Like > > Stonehenge... > > Avebury. I've been there on holiday. Of course it's > a > real place. It's the second most famous stone site > after Stonehenge. Have the Americans only heard of > Stonehenge? > Some of us even know about the ones in Gaul, um, I mean France. :-) mike - too much work, too little sleep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: CD release Date: 20 Aug 2001 09:02:14 +0100 I'm sure you are all aware that the new CD comes out next week (27th) it is called the 'Deadliest Species' and I'm sure the content will cause a great deal of future debate (with appropriate spoilers of course ;) and for UK fans don't forget to watch 'The top 100' on channel 4 on the same day to see where TP is featured. Thanks Jackie ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 20 Aug 2001 20:18:00 +0100 (BST) --- Jeremy Rogers wrote: > > > I am searching for Children of the > > Stones and the Haunting of Cassie Palmer > > Children of the Stones was available for years in > the UK on the now > defunct Video Gems label. Still shouldn't be too > difficult to track > down one of these. Au contraire, it's VERY difficult to find them. They stopped producing them years ago apparently (circa 1990) ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 20 Aug 2001 21:06:50 +0100 (BST) --- CMento6653@aol.com wrote: > There were TWO Littlest Hobo series (a full series > in 1960s) in black and > white. Then a full 6 or 7 season color series. The colour series from the late 1970s are being shown on M7 Liberty TV ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 20 Aug 2001 21:35:35 +0100 The message <20010820191800.13472.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com> from =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= contains these words: > Au contraire, it's VERY difficult to find them. They > stopped producing them years ago apparently (circa 1990) Really? Still a couple on sale in my local Virgin shop only a year or at most 2 ago. Although Video Gems went out of business in the mid 1990s from memory. Bits of their stock were cleared out at that time I think. It has to be said that this video version is very odd to watch as they chopped out the titles but kept in the reprises, so you watch some scenes twice immediately. Although they resisted the temptation to cut out the HTV waterfall ident. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 20 Aug 2001 23:08:26 +0100 (BST) --- Jeremy Rogers wrote: > Really? Still a couple on sale in my local Virgin > shop only a year or > at most 2 ago. Well, if you find one then please let me know! > It has to be said that this video version is very > odd to watch as > they chopped out the titles but kept in the > reprises, so you watch > some scenes twice immediately. A bit like Into the Labyrinth video 2. >Although they > resisted the temptation > to cut out the HTV > waterfall ident. Err... like the Into the Labyrinth videos ;-) ===== Regards, j/p The Hyphen Boyd Foundation! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jackie zalewski" Subject: Re: TPDIS: other TV programmes with tp, tk etc? Date: 20 Aug 2001 19:41:05 -0400 I have all the third eye series (including Children of the Stones), but since I'm in the US it's on US format VHS tapes. Do you know someone who can convert them for you? my regular email is: jackieznyc@hotmail.com peace, joy, good health, and many cds jackie from NYC and Snoopy adds "awwwwrooooooo"! :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: Just where DO they go to the bathroom? Date: 24 Aug 2001 02:22:46 EDT Arpi and I have come up with a new theory! Listen, ye scurvy scumbags! Err... TP Bathroom Theory v. 5.0: They bag it, and then TIM deatomizes it and reorganizes the atoms into all the useful things that he creates, like antiseptic wipes and breakfast! The Galactic Federation could have come up with a technical solution, so as to not inconvenience the Tomorrow People while they're fighting crime, trying to save the world, here they are just in time, the Powerpuff... Tomorrow People! POWERPUFF! Of course, they could just have a gypsy caravan behind the lab, Tyso-style! Or maybe they just get REALLY constipated... -Arpi and Geoff (now updated--see the bottom!)(Not THAT way, Arpi-chan!) "This is our joint sig. Duh. Hey! *You're* the one typing! hey! leggo-- Yeah. Well, if we're using it, that must mean that we're together again. YAY!!!!! That's always a good thing. Well, maybe not for humanity... Can't say I disagree. Anyway, we're busy "Fighting crime, trying to save the world. Here they come just in time, the Powerpuff Arpi and Geoff! (Hey! I ain't no powahpuff goilie!) (Yes you are!) (Quiet you!)" A AND G A G A G R E R E R E P O P O P O I F I F I F (Thanks Marcel...)(She wrote that! Not me! Her!)(It was him!)(Was not! Tickle fight!) (And it's NOT good that we're usually seperated by a continent, SHAUN!) "Sodium. Oxygen. Bang." (Us talking about Geoff becoming a chemist) "Tell me again why we're doing this?" "What does kangaroo taste like?" (Shaun?) (Arpi said that!)(I *so* did not! And that *wasn't* the Windows button, GEOFF!)(You SO did so, and that's what *I* call it, ARPI! ;P ) "Hey, he made it back for her birthday! Too bad she's a raving lunatic." "Sheena, get in the car." "Sheena, get in the vortex." "Sheena, get in the glowing green square." "Y'know, people probably run away screaming when they see this thing." --Sara, on the joint sig "I mean, lots of men are really good." -- Megan (thanks Shaun!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: TPDIS: New Series Tapes Date: 26 Aug 2001 15:36:43 -0700 Okay... I was just wondering if anyone had or knew where to find transcripts for the New series episodes/serials? Or can do any? I recently got my New Series serials from Cyber Haus, (Amy), and knew that it wasn't closed captioned. I didn't mind, but I wouldn't mind knowing the story/dialogue/telepathic dialogue, etc. But being that I'm deaf, I do need to know what's going on as well as the action sequences. I've been searching the web for them, but haven't really turned up any other than 2 transcripts for the Old series, which are on The TPFICT webpage, somewhere, not quite sure of the link, but anyways. Anyone help? Thanks a lot! - Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: TPDIS: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:51:28 +0100 Date: 26 Aug 2001 16:58:12 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C12E8A.05F82E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am jansulli and I have just joined the list. So I hope that this has = worked. I have watched the Old Series and got hooked but managed to miss all of = the New Series. So I live in hope of the Sci-Fi Channel doing a re-run. I did enjoy the CD The Lost Gods and am eagerly awaiting the second one. = Did you realise that it comes out TOMORROW!!! (27th August) If it was = available from the suppliers directly I would be on the door step = tomorrow. Bye for now. jansulli ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C12E8A.05F82E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am jansulli and I have just joined = the=20 list.  So I hope that this has worked.
 
I have watched the Old Series and got = hooked but=20 managed to miss all of the New Series.  So I live in hope of the = Sci-Fi=20 Channel doing a re-run.
 
I did enjoy the CD The Lost Gods and am = eagerly=20 awaiting the second one.
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Bye for now. =20 jansulli
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C12E8A.05F82E80-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: Re: TPDIS: New Series Tapes Date: 27 Aug 2001 08:58:24 +1000 Drew Thiele wrote: > Okay... I was just wondering if anyone had or knew where to find > transcripts for the New series episodes/serials? Or can do any? > > I recently got my New Series serials from Cyber Haus, (Amy), and knew > that it wasn't closed captioned. I didn't mind, but I wouldn't mind > knowing the story/dialogue/telepathic dialogue, etc. But being that I'm > deaf, I do need to know what's going on as well as the action sequences. > > I've been searching the web for them, but haven't really turned up any > other than 2 transcripts for the Old series, which are on The TPFICT > webpage, somewhere, not quite sure of the link, but anyways. This is on my list of 'to dos' for my own webpage - and for my own use, I find transcripts very useful in writing fanfic. I can't be sure when I will be ready (ATM my spare time is spent copying TP episodes - I've built up a backlog, not least of which was caused by someone's first set of tapes not arriving... I'm going to give up sending tapes to the US soon, they seem to go missing three out of five times - to anyone in the US waiting on tapes from me, you will get them - I'm just going to have a friend send them from the US and I'm waiting for him to go in a months or so). Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |email: drednort@alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michele Bumbarger" Subject: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 13:38:07 -0400 De-lurking to ask a few quick questions. 1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the military he was a part of? 2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own volition. However, what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? Can they kill, or do they simply go through the motions and stop before any actual act of killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect them physically? I have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel from those of you out there in fandom. Thanks! ********************************************** Michele B. Archivist, Author & Webmistress Alternate Realities Fan Fiction Archive http://www.alternate-realities.net ********************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Selfdestruct117@cs.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 13:42:17 EDT --part1_53.ae21d5f.28bbe079_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/27/01 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time, mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes: > 1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the > military he was a part of? The pilot serial said he was part of a branch called DSI (Department of Scientific Intelligence). In The Culex Experiment and The Living Stones, they changed it to Worldex, and the phrase "DSI" was never mentioned again. --part1_53.ae21d5f.28bbe079_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/27/01 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes:


1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the
military he was a part of?
The pilot serial said he was part of a branch called DSI (Department of
Scientific Intelligence). In The Culex Experiment and The Living Stones, they
changed it to Worldex, and the phrase "DSI" was never mentioned again. --part1_53.ae21d5f.28bbe079_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michele Bumbarger" Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 14:43:58 -0400

In a message dated 8/27/01 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes:


1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the
military he was a part of?



The pilot serial said he was part of a branch called DSI (Department of
Scientific Intelligence). In The Culex Experiment and The Living Stones, they
changed it to Worldex, and the phrase "DSI" was never mentioned again

Thanks, but I was actually looking for Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines. But thanks a lot. Does anyone know which of the four it was?






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------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Psycho Babble" Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 15:40:08 -0400 I don't think they ever tell us that Michele. I watched Origin for the umpteenth time a couple of weeks ago, and all they tell us is that he's the head of a project that is a joint venture between SIA (scientific intelligence agency) of the US, and DSI (department of scientific intelligence) of the UK. It never specifies which branch of the armed forces that fell under. (Which really, really bothered me, but what can you do?) ~Kristin "There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." -Dave Barry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Hately Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:37:33 +1000 Michele Bumbarger wrote: > De-lurking to ask a few quick questions. > > 1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of > the military he was a part of? That's never actually stated - I've gone through it with a fine tooth comb looking. Personally I think he's US Air Force - but that's based on nothing more than the way he acts. Marine and Army generals tend to have particular personalities, Air Force generals also - and he seems Air Force to me - it's also more common for an Air Force general to wind up as a specialist scientific officer. > 2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own volition. However, > what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? Can they kill, > or do they simply go through the motions and stop before any actual act > of killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect them > physically? I have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel from > those of you out there in fandom. Based on 'Heart of Sogguth', where John is possessed and comes close to killing but can't quite complete the act, I would say that the prime barrier allows a TP to reach the point of killing, but not to pass beyond it. That's original series, but in the new series, it seems to me to be likely similar - they can come close but not cross the line. *However* - better insert spoiler space for the second TP CD here. I haven't got it, but I've heard rumours. > > > > SPOILERS@WARNING@SPOILERS TAKE @@@@@@ > > > > @SPOILERS@WARNING@SPOILERS@ @CARE@ @THE@@@@@@ > > > > @SPOILERS@WARNING@SPOILERS@ PLEASE @@PRIME@@@@ > > > > SPOILERS@WARNING@SPOILERS @@@@@@ @BARRIER@@ > > > > @MANY@ @IS@@@@ > > > > PPPP @@TP@@ @NO@@@ > > > > PLLLLP @FANS@ @USE@@ > > > > LEEEEL @WILL@ @@IF@@ > > > > EAAAAE @@BE@@ @@YOU@@ > > > > ASSSSA @GLAD@ @SPOIL@ > > > > SEEEES @@STUN THE SPOILERS!@@ > > > > E@@@@E @PEOPLE WHO SPOIL@@@@ > > > > @DDDD@ @ARE@THE@MINIONS@@@@ > > > > DOOOOD @@OF JEDEKIAH@@@@@ > > > > O@@@@O @HAIL@ > > > > NNNNNN @@TO@@ > > > > TOOOOT @BIG@@ > > > > @TTTT@ FINISH > > > > S@@@@S @MANY@ > > > > PSSSSP @@TP@@ > > > > OPPPPO @FANS@ > > > > IOOOOI @WILL@ > > > > LIIIIL @@BE@@ > > > > LLLL GLAD Apparently the second CD's storyline has a TPs efforts to kill others, and may take things in a very new direction in this regard. Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought Shaun Hately |webpage: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~drednort/thelab.html |email: drednort@alphalink.com.au | ICQ: 6898200 "You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering." The Doctor - Doctor Who: The Face of Evil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:12:21 +1000 On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:38:07PM -0400, Michele Bumbarger wrote: > 2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own volition. However, > what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? Can they kill, or > do they simply go through the motions and stop before any actual act of > killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect them physically? I > have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel from those of you out > there in fandom. If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the influence. If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said he was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do it. So he had to settle for using his stun gun. Unfortunately, if you take "The New Gods" as canon, then you'll ignore everything from "The Heart of Sogguth" and say that, yes, they can kill when possessed. That's one reason why I'll never take The New Gods as canon! The new series has one case of posession, when Ami is under the influence of Ramases Akhara, and she lures Adam and Megabyte into the tomb with the intention of killing them (am I remembering this right?) but she isn't the one who does the actual attempt -- the death is meant to be death-by-collapsing-tomb. And Ami does appear to throw off the influence once the others help her. So the jury is kinda out on that one. My preferred take is that, when under the influence of some-thing/one a TP may talk, and fully intend, to kill, but the Prime Barrier makes the *act* impossible. We've already seen that TPs can think about killing people (both Megabyte and Kevin in the pilot) but when it actually comes down to the moment of action, a TP can't do it. So the Prime Barrier doesn't kick in at the word, only at the deed. This, of course, won't prevent a TP killing someone by accident! Or being tricked into killing someone (like the robots in one of Asimov's robot book got tricked into being an accessory to murder -- one robot put poison into a jug, being told the jug wouldn't be drunk from, another robot served up the jug of drink, being told the drink was harmless). If a TP did kill someone, the effect, I think, would be profound. They would be deeply disturbed, and they'd probably lose all their powers, even if only temporarily. Just MHO. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "I'm not an agent, I just write books for the CIA." -- Jack Ryan (The Hunt for Red October) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Thiele Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 16:06:46 -0700 At 01:38 PM 8/27/01 -0400, you wrote: >De-lurking to ask a few quick questions. > >1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the >military he was a part of? > >2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own volition. However, >what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? Can they kill, or >do they simply go through the motions and stop before any actual act of >killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect them physically? >I have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel from those of you out >there in fandom. My opinion on #2, There's a lot of possession or mental control... I'm just wondering why TP's are more suspectible? And I am not quite familiar with the Prime Barrier, but that's probably cuz I never saw the Old Series... But What does this entail, complete 'push aside' of the TP's personality, or total supression, if so, then maybe it's possible, but the TP would probably suffer a bad consequence, losing powers until they cope with it, or into a coma-like state., after they recover from possession. But if it's the type of possession that the TP is totally aware that they're possessed but cannot do a thing, then probably this no killing thing will come into effect. - My 2 cents. Drew >Thanks! > >********************************************** >Michele B. >Archivist, Author & Webmistress >Alternate Realities Fan Fiction Archive >http://www.alternate-realities.net >********************************************** > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathryn Andersen Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 17:29:39 -0600 Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:42:17PM -0400 Sender: owner-tpdis@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: tpdis On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 01:42:17PM -0400, Selfdestruct117@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/27/01 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time, > mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes: > > > > 1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch of the > > military he was a part of? > > The pilot serial said he was part of a branch called DSI (Department of > Scientific Intelligence). In The Culex Experiment and The Living > Stones, they changed it to Worldex, and the phrase "DSI" was never > mentioned again. I always assumed that General Damon resigned from the military because he was (a) disgusted with what their plans for TPs were (I mean, consider the pilot!) and (b) to protect Megabyte. Worldex was a private, independent international security firm, I thought. At least, in The Culex Experiment, they were providing security for this international conference of scientists. (sigh) I have a feeling TPTB didn't really think a lot about the background. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Protests are as much use with the Vorlons as fairy wings on a cement truck." -- Garibaldi, "Eyes" (Babylon 5) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: TPDIS: Re: TPDIS; A few quickie Questions Date: 28 Aug 2001 00:41:44 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C12F5A.3676C500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 8/27/01 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes:=20 2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own volition. However,=20 what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? Can they kill, = or=20 do they simply go through the motions and stop before any actual act of=20 killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect them = physically? I=20 have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel from those of you out = there in fandom. I have only seen the old series, and like Kathryn Andersen, the Heart of = Sogguth sprang to mind. The conflict in John between obeying the orders = from Sogguth and his built in Prime Barrier, was plain to see and it was = that that broke him out of Sogguths' control. But it did not have any = other after effects other than leaving him very shaken. I prefer to think that in The Lost Gods CD that he was actually stunned = before he had reached the point of this conflict happening. As for whether it would leave any after effects if any TP did actually = kill by accident. This is shown when they sent the robot Jeddikah back = in time with the man who wanted to steal the crown jewels. The TP only = then found that the desination for the time machine had changed and so = the man was killed. This did not result in any loss of powers but did = badly upset them all. Thanks to Micheles timely warning of spoilers I have not read the = spoilers from the next CD story. As I am waiting for it to arrive in = the post. Bye for now. Janet Sullivan ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C12F5A.3676C500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a = message dated 8/27/01=20 12:38:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
mbumbarger@hotmail.com writes:=20


2. It's accepted that TPs can not kill of their own = volition.=20 However,
what's the stance on a TP being possessed or controlled? = Can they=20 kill, or
do they simply go through the motions and stop before any = actual=20 act of
killing? If they can kill in such a state, does it affect = them=20 physically? I
have my opinions, but I want to get a general feel = from those=20 of you out
there in fandom.

I have only seen the old series, = and like=20 Kathryn Andersen, the Heart of Sogguth sprang to mind.  The = conflict=20 in John between obeying the orders from Sogguth and his built in Prime = Barrier,=20 was plain to see and it was that that broke him out of Sogguths' = control. =20 But it did not have any other after effects other than leaving him very=20 shaken.
 
I prefer to think that in The Lost Gods = CD that he=20 was actually stunned before he had reached the point of this conflict=20 happening.
 
As for whether it would leave any after = effects if=20 any TP did actually kill by accident.  This is shown when = they=20 sent the robot Jeddikah back in time with the man who wanted to steal = the crown=20 jewels.  The TP only then found that the desination for the time = machine=20 had changed and so the man was killed.  This did not result in any = loss of=20 powers but did badly upset them all.
 
Thanks to Micheles timely warning of = spoilers I=20 have not read the spoilers from the next CD story.  As I am waiting = for it=20 to arrive in the post.
 
Bye for now.  Janet=20 Sullivan
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C12F5A.3676C500-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roanna Medina Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 17:37:48 -0700 On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:37:33 +1000 Shaun Hately writes: > Michele Bumbarger wrote: > > > De-lurking to ask a few quick questions. > > > > 1. General Damon - did the series ever say for certain what branch >> of the military he was a part of? > > > That's never actually stated - I've gone through it with a fine > tooth comb looking. Personally I think he's US Air Force - but that's > based on nothing more than the way he acts. Marine and Army generals > tend to have particular personalities, Air Force generals also - and he seems > Air Force to me - it's also more common for an Air Force general to wind > up as a specialist scientific officer. Well, if he's a general, then he can't be Navy (or Coastguard). The equivalent is admiral in those branches. General is reserved for Army, Air Force, or Marine Corps. Rho ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JADFIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 27 Aug 2001 22:10:57 EDT that kinda specific is something that the show did not go into. cathryn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: TPDIS: Re: Quickie questions Date: 28 Aug 2001 05:07:46 -0700 (PDT) 1) Someone beat me to it. I was going to rule out Navy as there is no 'General' rank in the Navy. Otherwise, you're guess is as good as anyone else's. Didn't we see him in uniform in Origin Story? (Mike thinks he'll take a quick look back and see if that gives anything away.) 2) TPs - mind control/posession - killing. Again, all the examples from OS and NS have been brought up. Personally, in my fanfic I had a TP character who managed to kill someone while under something else's control, but the resulting trauma put him into a coma. I attributed that reaction to psychic feedback from the action. So basically, I think most people would expect the TP in such a situation to a) breakdown mentally or physically b) lose their powers c) die themselves, or d) some combination of the above. Just my $.02 mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:51:28 +0100 Date: 28 Aug 2001 19:11:26 +0100 Welcome Jansuli. It's good to have some new blood around here. Why not tell us your fav. episode or character and why you chose them? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:58 PM Hi, I am jansulli and I have just joined the list. So I hope that this has worked. I have watched the Old Series and got hooked but managed to miss all of the New Series. So I live in hope of the Sci-Fi Channel doing a re-run. I did enjoy the CD The Lost Gods and am eagerly awaiting the second one. Did you realise that it comes out TOMORROW!!! (27th August) If it was available from the suppliers directly I would be on the door step tomorrow. Bye for now. jansulli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: TPDIS: Top 100 Date: 28 Aug 2001 19:23:07 +0100 Hi All, Well I sat up the whole evening eagerly awaiting the TP segment of this show only to be bitterly disappointed by the whole thing. It almost seems to me that someone doesn't want TP to be shown again (Pearson springing to mind here). Anyway, the good news is that we made it to number 46 in the top 100 which is a very reasonable position. There was a clip of the title sequence with the presenter dubbed over saying things about jaunting in flared trousers and Mike being the drummer in Flintlock. This was followed by 30 secs from 'A rift in time' (the part where they return to find the lab gone) But the person who had most dialogue was Peter (the time guardian). PVC has been on the phone to the TV company and bitterly complained that they misled us into thinking it would be strongly featured (most of my family sat up half the night just to watch for it!) But the bottom line is 'That's showbusiness!! Nothing is ever a certainty. I only hope the release of the new CD can compensate. Jackie ---- "May your senses be enlightened and your dreams be fulfilled." Traditional Manyarnern Greeting http://www.effdee.demon.co.uk/manyarner/Homepg2000.html http://www.The-Tomorrow-People.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 28 Aug 2001 06:55:48 +0100 Kathryn Andersen wrote: > I always assumed that General Damon resigned from the military because > he was (a) disgusted with what their plans for TPs were (I mean, > consider the pilot!) and (b) to protect Megabyte. Worldex was a > private, independent international security firm, I thought. This is my understanding also, although it isn't clearly explained as far as I remember. Incidentally there is a production "error" with Worldex - it should be Worldex Security as written but on-screen any written reference was Worldex Securities. A minor point maybe, but an irritant to Lee Pressman who thought this sounded more like a financial company. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: Top 100 Date: 28 Aug 2001 23:01:10 +0100 "Jackie Clark" wrote: > Well I sat up the whole evening eagerly awaiting the TP segment of this show > only to be bitterly disappointed by the whole thing. It almost seems to me > that someone doesn't want TP to be shown again (Pearson springing to mind > here). They'll be happy to clock up the royalties - indeed they had plenty of other programmes in the show. Incidentally Pearson TV in the UK has just gone back to calling itself Thames Television, and possibly in some areas FremantleMedia, which it is world-wide. > Anyway, the good news is that we made it to number 46 in the top 100 > which is a very reasonable position. There was a clip of the title sequence > with the presenter dubbed over saying things about jaunting in flared > trousers and Mike being the drummer in Flintlock. This was followed by 30 > secs from 'A rift in time' (the part where they return to find the lab gone) > But the person who had most dialogue was Peter (the time guardian). Not the most exciting of clips really. > PVC has been on the phone to the TV company and bitterly complained that > they misled us into thinking it would be strongly featured (most of my > family sat up half the night just to watch for it!) But the bottom line is > 'That's showbusiness!! Nothing is ever a certainty. How long were you expecting? With 100 programmes to cover and a 3 hour show minus commercials there would only be about a minute and a bit each on average taking the general linking material into account. I suspect they garnered a lot of material that they in the end chose from depending on how the order of the list worked out. I know that at least one of the 'regular' talking heads also recorded a Tomorrow People part that wasn't used. (His one on Noggin the Nog was though.) I am also aware that one of those advising the programme wanted to be disassociated with the end product and had his name removed from the credits. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapido=20Europe?= Subject: Re: TPDIS: Top 100 Date: 28 Aug 2001 23:36:19 +0100 (BST) --- Jackie Clark wrote: > Hi All, > Well I sat up the whole evening eagerly awaiting the > TP segment of this show > only to be bitterly disappointed by the whole thing. > It almost seems to me > that someone doesn't want TP to be shown again > (Pearson springing to mind > here). Ironically, it's being re-named Thames in this country. > PVC has been on the phone to the TV company and > bitterly complained that > they misled us into thinking it would be strongly > featured I believe Greg Taylor from TTTV was responsible for the production and making the 'should it stay or should it go' decisions. e.g. Tommy Boyd did a good bit about Knightmare, although it was never shown and we got Iain Lee instead. PLUG: visit my site http://tommyboyd.50megs.com And Postman Pat was in the Top 20 and they never even said anything about it!!!! Still there wasn't much about TP considering how popular it was/still is and how many years it was shown. Never showed anything from the New Series either. A bit disappointing. ===== Regards, j/p IMPORTANT: The NEW address for TRANSWHATEVER!!! http://tommyboyd.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: TPDIS: Re: TPDIS Mon 28/08/01 19.13 Date: 29 Aug 2001 02:06:22 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1302F.3373AE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, As requested by Jackie Clark I have got in touch with my TP likes and = dislikes from the series and some background info. I have only recently taken my courage in my hands, to actually join the = TPDIS mailing list. =20 When I finally got organised to get on the internet I was worried that I = would not get any results when I did my first search - for The Tomorrow = People. =20 No one that I had spoken to seemed to have any interest in the show. So = I waited to see if anyone else had stayed hooked on the show that I = enjoyed so much. I was so delighted to find that there were others out = there. Since then I have been so impressed with the sites out there. All the = information and so much fanfic!! As to the shows. I have only watched the old series - although I would = like to see the new series. =20 My favourite character has always been John. =20 As to my favourite episodes these are Secret Weapon - where Tyso breakes = out and is captured by Colonel Masters and Heart of Suggoth - where John = is taken over. Both of these go into the TP powers in depth. Mind you = I also enjoyed the Jeddikah stories, as well as the ones with Hitler in. I think my least favourite episode was Man for Emily - mind you it is = interesting to see the actors trying to stop from laughing when they are = suspose to be serious!! I live in the UK (are there many of you from the UK?) - and although I = am not sure of the time differences it is now 2am here so I'm off to = bed. Bye for now. jansulli. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1302F.3373AE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
As requested by Jackie Clark I have got = in touch=20 with my TP likes and dislikes from the series and some background=20 info.
 
I have only recently taken my courage = in my hands,=20 to actually join the TPDIS mailing list. 
 
When I finally got organised to get on = the internet=20 I was worried that I would not get any results when I did my first = search - for=20 The Tomorrow People. 
 
No one that I had spoken to seemed to = have any=20 interest in the show.  So I waited to see if anyone else had stayed = hooked=20 on the show that I enjoyed so much.  I was so delighted to find = that there=20 were others out there.
 
Since then I have been so impressed = with the sites=20 out there.  All the information and so much fanfic!!
 
As to the shows.  I have only = watched the old=20 series - although I would like to see the new series.  =
My favourite character has always been = John. =20
As to my favourite episodes these are = Secret Weapon=20 - where Tyso breakes out and is captured by Colonel Masters and Heart of = Suggoth=20 - where John is taken over.  Both of these go into the TP powers in = depth.  Mind you I also enjoyed the Jeddikah stories, as well as = the ones=20 with Hitler in.
 
I think my least favourite episode was = Man for=20 Emily - mind you it is interesting to see the actors trying to stop from = laughing when they are suspose to be serious!!
 
I live in the UK (are there many of you = from the=20 UK?) - and although I am not sure of the time differences it is now 2am = here so=20 I'm off to bed.
 
Bye for now.  = jansulli.
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1302F.3373AE60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jackie Clark" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Top 100 Date: 29 Aug 2001 19:26:54 +0100 The reason that PVC was upset was that up until a few weeks ago they told him and Nick that their interview would be included and he told a lot of friends and family to watch it (just as I did) anyway we both think it rude of them not to let us know that we had been edited out. We didn't expect any more than a couple of mins but it was a complete waste of time us doing those interviews. > > I am also aware that one of those advising the programme wanted to be > disassociated with the end product and had his name removed from > the credits. > > Jez > -- Now this is very interesting. Can you let me know off list who it was as I'm friends with someone who worked on the show myself. Thanks Jackie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rogers Subject: Re: TPDIS: Top 100 Date: 29 Aug 2001 23:23:47 +0100 "Jackie Clark" wrote: > The reason that PVC was upset was that up until a few weeks ago they told > him and Nick that their interview would be included and he told a lot of > friends and family to watch it (just as I did) anyway we both think it rude > of them not to let us know that we had been edited out. First rule of production is not to guarantee anyone contributing to a programme that they will appear. First rule of contributing to a programme is to never believe a word the producers tell you. > Now this is very interesting. Can you let me know off list who it was as I'm > friends with someone who worked on the show myself. Greg Taylor has already been openly mentioned by someone else on this list. Shame his 'Not just for kids' was never commissioned - the second programme was to include The Tomorrow People. Jez -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: TPDIS: The Tomorrow People Archives book?! Date: 30 Aug 2001 19:11:12 EDT Hey all! I did a search at half.com for "tomorrow people," and this popped up. http://www.half.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=193072&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1 "The Tomorrow People Archives by T. C. Kirkham There are currently no items for sale. " Amazon has nothing about the book. Same for the author. Does anyone know what this is? ---- Geoff (Old quotes can be found at: http://capmarvel.tripod.com/sig.html) "They were doing this thing that had a 15 minute vulnerable window for all the info on the server, and the power went out! For hours! I've never seen so many pulsing forehead veins." - Sara, on how my school's network almost died while I was away Me: Did I miss anything interesting? Hanni: If anything interesting happened, I probably missed it too. "I was having a mildly paranoid day, mostly due to the fact that the mad priest lady from over the river had taken to nailing weasels to my front door again." -- Some book Sara read "For the last time, stop embalming your brother's toes!" -- Sara's RP Geoff: You KNOW things're getting weird we we start talking about sports! Bizzie: If I had a sig of quotes, I'd quote you on that, but since I don't, I suggest you quote yourself! "I mean, lots of men are really good." -- Megan "Women can pee in the snow, it just takes more athletic ability." -- more Megan "Sure, you can quote me! I'm starting to rival Steve and Shaun here, eh?" -- Biz "Whoa, there's an online company called Bizfinity! The digits of pi are bizfinite..." -- Bizzie Bizzie recounts a conversation with a friend... me: I have a website about....pi. friend: did you say you have a website about pot? me: no, pi! PI! friend: OH. I guess that would make more sense... She continues: What's terrible is that apparently other people misinterpreted it to be pot as well last year and went around saying, "hey, the new girl has a website about pot!" It's pi, darnit! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Matott Subject: Re: TPDIS: The Tomorrow People Archives book?! Date: 30 Aug 2001 19:45:41 -0700 (PDT) --- Latimer84@aol.com wrote: > Hey all! I did a search at half.com for "tomorrow > people," and this popped up. > > http://www.half.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=193072&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1 > > "The Tomorrow People Archives > by T. C. Kirkham > > There are currently no items for sale. " > > Amazon has nothing about the book. Same for the > author. Does anyone know what > this is? > I'm not sure, but I think it must be a collection of the TP fanzines Mr. Kirkham was involved in putting out. That name is a pretty touchy one for some people on-list. I was never involved with said person or involved in said touchy situation. Aside from the psycho-stalker hate emailer from two years ago, the name T.C. Kirkham led to the closest thing this list has ever had to a flame war. (So I'm hoping people with strong opinions one way or the other about the subject will keep that in mind before saying something regrettable.) Interesting find Geoff. Out of curiousity, why is it listed if it's not for sale? Is this some sort of book list? mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Latimer84@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: The Tomorrow People Archives book?! Date: 30 Aug 2001 22:59:18 EDT In a message dated 8/30/01 10:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, greyfalcon_1@yahoo.com writes: > I'm not sure, but I think it must be a collection of > the TP fanzines Mr. Kirkham was involved in putting > out. > > That name is a pretty touchy one for some people > on-list. I was never involved with said person or > involved in said touchy situation. Aside from the > psycho-stalker hate emailer from two years ago, the > name T.C. Kirkham led to the closest thing this list > has ever had to a flame war. (So I'm hoping people > with strong opinions one way or the other about the > subject will keep that in mind before saying something > regrettable.) Oh, so THIS is that guy? Whoops ^_^; Is it something worth hunting down, or might I just as well let it drop? > Interesting find Geoff. Out of curiousity, why is it > listed if it's not for sale? Is this some sort of > book list? For some reason, half.com lists tons of things they don't have in stock. I have no idea why. -Geoff "I think you should kill him." - Ariana Brill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Emma=20Hanby?= Subject: TPDIS: Newer series books Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:05:31 +0100 (BST) hiya everyone, i know this has probably been posted a million and one times, but does anyone have a copy of The Culex Experiment they would sell or trade something for? I`ve managed to get The Rameses Connection, The Living Stones and Monsoon Man from rare and out of print booksellers. But i`m stuck for the other one. I contacted my *Local* library who told me if they had it they wouldnt sell it to me as i wanted it-which i thought was strange, but there we go! Thanks Em ===== please visit my new look site-go on you know you want to!: http://www.geocities.com/midigirl2000 ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "janet.sullivan" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Newer series books Date: 31 Aug 2001 23:45:19 +0100 Hi all, I have found The Culex Experiment book difficult to find too. I have managed to track down the books from the old and new series except for this one. My local library has not got this one, so I can't even read it. They also have the policy that you cannot reserve any books to buy - all you can do is check what is for sale when you pop in. So although is does not help you - you are not alone! Bye, bye jansulli ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:05 PM > hiya everyone, > > i know this has probably been posted a million and one > times, but does anyone have a copy of The Culex > Experiment they would sell or trade something for? > I`ve managed to get The Rameses Connection, The Living > Stones and Monsoon Man from rare and out of print > booksellers. But i`m stuck for the other one. I > contacted my *Local* library who told me if they had > it they wouldnt sell it to me as i wanted it-which i > thought was strange, but there we go! > > Thanks > > Em > > ===== > please visit my new look site-go on you know you want to!: http://www.geocities.com/midigirl2000 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mouse" Subject: Re: TPDIS: Newer series books Date: 31 Aug 2001 18:00:26 -0500 > > hiya everyone, > > > > i know this has probably been posted a million and one > > times, but does anyone have a copy of The Culex > > Experiment they would sell or trade something for? > > I`ve managed to get The Rameses Connection, The Living > > Stones and Monsoon Man from rare and out of print > > booksellers. But i`m stuck for the other one. I > > contacted my *Local* library who told me if they had > > it they wouldnt sell it to me as i wanted it-which i > > thought was strange, but there we go! Have you tried http://www.abebooks.com ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:10:24 EDT --part1_109.4e52a2f.28c18170_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/27/01 6:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kat@foobox.net writes: > If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the > influence. If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said he > was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do > it. So he had to settle for using his stun gun. > > Mmm, I seem to recall one attempt against Liz by John, possessed by Sogguth, would have succeeded if Liz did not jaunt away. He actually brought the knife down onto her bed but just before she jaunted. --part1_109.4e52a2f.28c18170_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/27/01 6:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kat@foobox.net
writes:


If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the
influence.  If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said he
was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do
it.  So he had to settle for using his stun gun.




Mmm, I seem to recall one attempt against Liz by John, possessed by Sogguth,
would have succeeded if Liz did not jaunt away. He actually brought the knife
down onto her bed but just before she jaunted. --part1_109.4e52a2f.28c18170_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMento6653@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: The Tomorrow People Archives book?! Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:17:56 EDT --part1_16b.1f8db7.28c18334_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/30/01 10:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, greyfalcon_1@yahoo.com writes: > Aside from the > psycho-stalker hate emailer from two years ago, the > name T.C. Kirkham led to the closest thing this list > has ever had to a flame war. (So I'm hoping people > with strong opinions one way or the other about the > subject will keep that in mind before saying something > I don't remember a flame war or anything close to that. What was that over? --part1_16b.1f8db7.28c18334_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/30/01 10:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
greyfalcon_1@yahoo.com writes:


Aside from the
psycho-stalker hate emailer from two years ago, the
name T.C. Kirkham led to the closest thing this list
has ever had to a flame war.  (So I'm hoping people
with strong opinions one way or the other about the
subject will keep that in mind before saying something



I don't remember a flame war or anything close to that. What was that over? --part1_16b.1f8db7.28c18334_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Viv Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 31 Aug 2001 17:40:18 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:10:24 EDT, tpdis@lists.xmission.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/27/01 6:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kat@foobox.net > writes: > > > > If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the > > influence. If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said he > > was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do > > it. So he had to settle for using his stun gun. > > > > > > > Mmm, I seem to recall one attempt against Liz by John, possessed by Sogguth, > would have succeeded if Liz did not jaunt away. He actually brought the knife > down onto her bed but just before she jaunted. I rewatched that episode not too long ago. She didn't jaunt away. She managed to hold him off until he was able to break free of Sogguth's influence. He even said "Help me, Elizabeth!" and he was pretty shocked at what he'd almost done. She and John are jaunting all over the catwalk near the end and she does jaunt out of the disco after she stops Mike from playing the drum. Tia's Pals' Press c/o Vivian Arney P.O. Box 144842 Austin, Tx 78714-4842 We've been selling Fanfiction, memorabilia and books for 13 years. SASE for more info. Http://members.aol.com/dark4eyes/tia-pals.html A proud member of FEF - http://www.phoenixfyre.net/fef _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: Re: TPDIS: The Tomorrow People Archives book?! Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:37:37 -0500 Charlie Mento wrote: >I don't remember a flame war or anything close to that. What was that >over? "Flame war" is a little strong. Flame session that could get Wendy sued is a more accurate description. Not counting our sap "friend" about a year ago who needed their mouth washed out with soap. Let's never speak of it again, OK? Tigger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beth Epstein Subject: TPDIS: New CD? Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:40:13 -0500 Does anyone know if the latest TP CD was actually released on Monday? (The Big Finish site still has it listed as available for pre-order.) Just wondering if I should be anxiously checking my mailbox every five minutes or not? Tigger ------------ Spoiler Space is your friend. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KVDelano@aol.com Subject: Re: TPDIS: Newer series books Date: 31 Aug 2001 23:12:30 EDT --part1_7e.1a128920.28c1ac1e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to find Culex too, I have a want on ABE for it but so far no luck. E-bay had one, but it was too rich for my blood, although I tried hard to get it. It's strange since its relatively easy to find the 70's books. --I have all of them including an extra copy of Three into Three if anyone is interested. Do any of your local libraries have TP Books, I wish mine did. Karen It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it. --part1_7e.1a128920.28c1ac1e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying to find Culex too, I have a want on ABE for it but so far
no luck.  E-bay had one, but it was too rich for my blood, although I tried
hard to get it.  It's strange since its relatively easy to find the 70's
books. --I have all of them including an extra copy of Three into Three if
anyone is interested.
Do any of your local libraries have TP Books, I wish mine did.
Karen

It's what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be
when you can't help it. --part1_7e.1a128920.28c1ac1e_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Propes Subject: Re: TPDIS: A few quickie questions Date: 31 Aug 2001 23:48:31 -0500 --Apple-Mail-643247596-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 I just watched it yesterday, and John said that Sogguth completely took=20= over his will, and that he was going to kill Elizabeth. The stun gun came into play later after John was better able to fight=20 the control. Regards, Aaron Propes On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 07:10 PM, CMento6653@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/27/01 6:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 > kat@foobox.net > writes: > > > If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the > influence. =A0If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said = he > was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do > it. =A0So he had to settle for using his stun gun. > > > > > Mmm, I seem to recall one attempt against Liz by John, possessed by=20 > Sogguth, > would have succeeded if Liz did not jaunt away. He actually brought = the=20 > knife > down onto her bed but just before she jaunted. --- Aaron Lee Propes The Tomorrow People Audio Reviews http://www2.bitstream.net/~alpropes/tp/ --Apple-Mail-643247596-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 I just watched it yesterday, and John said that Sogguth completely took over his will, and that he was going to kill Elizabeth. The stun gun came into play later after John was better able to fight the control. Regards, Aaron Propes On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 07:10 PM, CMento6653@aol.com wrote: ArialIn a message dated 8/27/01 6:54:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kat@foobox.net writes: If you take old-series canon, TP cannot kill even when under the influence. =A0If you take "The Heart of Sogguth", John actually said he was going to kill the others, and tried to, but he simply couldn't do it. =A0So he had to settle for using his stun gun. = Arial0000,0000,0000Mmm, I seem to recall one attempt against Liz by John, possessed by Sogguth, would have succeeded if Liz did not jaunt away. He actually brought the knife down onto her bed but just before she jaunted. --- Aaron Lee Propes The Tomorrow People Audio Reviews http://www2.bitstream.net/~alpropes/tp/= --Apple-Mail-643247596-1--